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Edit: People are not reading what I have written and do not understand my point before voting. I'm not saying to add or remove every dating info, I'm saying we should discuss it page by page, and not have a general rule like discussion 1 dictating that we should delete everything when someone breaks up, significant or not. If you did not know, I'm the one that re-added Sulli's relationship info which was previously deleted because of discussion 1 even though it was significant because the couple was cyber bullied. That is why I say we discuss it per page and not have general rule like discussion 1. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 ( talk) 11:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
A few days ago, there was an edit war on
Kim Hee-chul revolving around the Relationships section and we started a discussion about whether to remove it or not. However, while discussing with the other editors, I came to the realization that the Korean artists' articles' editors hold different views on the matter and enforce removal of
verifiable and well-sourced information from
WP:BLP because they subjectively deem them insignificant or allegedly "harmful" and "sensitive information" (against
WP:CENSOR) as can be seen here
Here. Also, for years I have been told that when Korean artists' breakup the info of them dating should be deleted, and now I discovered that all that was decided against Wikipedia guidelines without any proper discussion and a consensus as seen here
discussion 1 and
discussion 2, and many of pages lost the Relationships section because a couple of editors thought they are not necessary even thought they are usually well-cited.
I raised the issue here but an admin, Guy, closed it and told me here that: "Per existing policy and guidance, you can add a relationship that's reliably sourced, remove only if you think it's not reliably sourced, and if anyone challenges a specific addition then you discuss it on the Talk page. Facts supported by reliable sources can be added, but if they are challenged by another editor it's your job to achieve consensus for inclusion."
Dating news (dating or breakup) that are well covered and are confirmed news by both parties/agencies do not fall under WP:BLPGOSSIP or WP:FAN. Dating news should be Neutral point of views, Verifiable under Korean reliable sources, and not an original research, so the points raised in discussion 1 and discussion 2 are against Wikipedia's already "existing policy and guidance" in WP:BLP. Dating news should not be deleted from the Relationships sections when it is well sourced with even international news outlets covering it by using discussion 1 as an excuse or saying all dating news are inherently insignificant. They keeps saying that any thing that doesn't contribute to the person's career should be removed, so should we also delete the birthplace, birth year, mention of family members, and education and Uni's major (if it is not acting/singing/etc.)? Please be consistent.
Relationships section can be seen in almost all artists’ articles on Wikipedia, be it a Korean artist ( Park Shin-hye, Choi Tae-joon, Jung Eun-woo, Shin Min-a, and Kim Woo-bin, etc) or western artist ( Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato, Nick Jonas, etc). There should be a fair objective standard between Korean and western artists. As the admin said, there should not be a Korean-artist-wide rule that states that sections should be deleted when a person breaks up and it should be a page-by-page consensus. Personally, I think it should either be that, or the relationships section should be totally eradication even from western artists' pages or totally allowed (with dating and breakup info) on all pages included Korean artists' pages, as we can't objectively judge if the dating news is significant or not, or the duration of the artists' relationship before the relationship is deemed long term and allowed on the page (1 year, 2 years, etc), or how famous should they be to deem the relationship significant.
To conclude, my main issue is with discussion 1 and discussion 2 suggesting that all dating news are inherently insignificant and WP:FAN if artist break up and should be removed, which is being held as a rule by editors on Korean artist’s page. What I’m hoping from starting this discussion is to reverse the immediate use of discussion 1 as an excuse to remove all dating news (dating or break up) from articles. I wish for issues of inclusion and deletion to be judged page-by-page without enforcing or using discussion 1 as an excuse on all Korean artists as being done now, since that goes against Wikipedia’s guidelines.
Format your comment to contain "Keep" the Korean-artists-wide rule reached on discussion 1 and discussion 2 about the eradication of the relationships section upon break up or "Reverse" the eradication of the relationships section upon break up, and include a rationale for your choice and please use guidelines and don't give me nonsense subjective non-Wikipedia useful reasons such as “idol dating news is sensitive” and “Public relationships between celebrities in Korea are a bit taboo” since that is WP:CENSOR. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 ( talk) 19:28, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
If inclusion is challenged then you discuss on talk. The onus is on the editor seeking to include the content, to achieve consensus for inclusion.. So in my view, it's on a case by case basis for any article, and if consensus is achieved to add the content. Isaidnoway (talk) 13:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Could somebody take a look at Draft:Yangsan Tower to verify my hunch that this is a word-for-word translation (and thus a copyright violation) from https://www.yangsan.go.kr/yangsantower/contents.do?mId=0101000000. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Can someone from the project look at the recent article South Korean IMF (International Monetary Fund) in 1997? It's in dire need of cleanup and seems to contain a lot of original research and NPOV issues. Also, the title really needs to be changed but I'm not sure what the best title would be. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Pichpich ( talk) 18:37, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi WikiProject Korea editors, Hope you're all well. I wondered if anyone had a chance to look over a draft I started as part of June's Pride theme at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red - the page is for an intersex person from the Joseon dynasty, some of which I google-translated from ko:임성구지 but then I found out more things! Here's the page: Draft:Im Seong-gu What I'd like to know is whether I've got the name of the person right? I saw a few different transliterations, which contradicted each other. Also Saganwon (사간원) is discussed in the article and I put The before it (so 'The Saganwon (사간원)') because it sounded like an organisation? Is that OK, or should 'the' be removed? Thank you for your help ( Lajmmoore ( talk) 13:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC))
A research paper was published in 2014 that disputes the popular idea that the Korean chili pepper was introduced to the country via foreign trade and that the first historical mentions of the pepper occur after the 15th century. The paper used DNA sequencing as evidence that there is no possibility of any foreign pepper of the same genus could have evolved into the genetically different Korean pepper in the amount of time needed to introduce the flavor to an entire county and integrate it into its cuisine in a way that even slightly resembles the historical records of kimchi and Korean chili powder. Furthermore, it points to older Korean historical documents that do document the presence, consumption, and popular use of Korean chili peppers, dating back to the first century.
Would this paper be enough of a verifiable reliable source to cite and introduce edits to the Korean chili pepper page?
2601:5CC:C500:1610:CD45:9DA1:B9C:C83A ( talk) 20:31, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
I've put up my suggestions on the talk page, so please do contribute if you have anything to contribute!-- Karaeng Matoaya ( talk) 16:06, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Could somebody translate https://i.ibb.co/hcwb2Q2/122-1024x1024-8-Copy.jpg for me? Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:22, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
-- Christian140 ( talk) 07:05, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
We have an article titled List of islands of South Korea, but it only lists 30 islands, although it does provide statistical data about the islands by province and the area of the 30 islands it lists. We have an article titled List of islands of Korea, which lists over 200 islands, all of which are part of South Korea. For islands of North Korea, the article refers readers to List of islands of North Korea.
Since both of these articles have content only about South Korean islands, wouldn't it be preferable to merge them? -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:47, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Please come participate in the discussion at Talk:Liancourt Rocks#Add (East sea). Thank you. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Korean mythology is very problematic, for much the same reasons that the Korean mythology article used to be. To wit:
In my opinion, all the articles above should be removed from the category, and the category itself should be split into the subcategories of "Korean oral mythology" and "Korean literary mythology" where everything could be organized more neatly. Thoughts?-- Karaeng Matoaya ( talk) 02:56, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Someone's moved Chang Bogo-class submarine to Jang Bogo-class submarine without discussion - could someone familiar with transliteration from Korean take a look? TIA Le Deluge ( talk) 10:07, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Currently there are two RFCs in The King: Eternal Monarch's page; RFC on the Second Paragraph of Lede and RFC on Reception section. Your opinion would be highly valued as you are familiar with Korea-related pages and k-dramas/TV series pages. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 ( talk) 23:43, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi I’m a new page reviewer and I’d appreciate a steer from members of this project. Recently a whole run of articles about Korean actors was created by a new user, 59.103.96.130 and all the ones I’ve looked at have been assessed on the talk page by another new user, user:AkaneNel. This seems a slightly unusual pattern and as I’m not familiar with the Korean sources it would be helpful to have some editors from this project look at some if them and see if they meet notability guidelines. Many thanks. Mccapra ( talk) 04:44, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
I just wanted to drop a quick note - it looks like several of the Ureme films are up for deletion and could use sourcing. The main article also has issues, if someone can work on it. I'm not really as familiar with Korean sourcing and can only really search using Google translate, so it would be good if someone fluent could search. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 02:51, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello, |
I wonder if this is notable enough to be translated to English Wikipedia? The Korean wiki does not cite any sources and my ability to find sources in Korean is poor... -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:02, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
From 1 October to 31 December, Women in Red is running a virtual contest on Asian women. In November, this will coincide with Wikipedia Asian Month. We look forward to strong participation from all those interested in improving coverage of Korean women.-- Ipigott ( talk) 16:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Are the sources listed in the references section of this article reliable? It looks notable, but I don't want to remove the tag without some confirmation, and unfortunately I don't read Korean. Thanks for any guidance anyone can offer! AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 03:08, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Typhoon Haishen (2020) to be moved to Typhoon Haishen. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. — RMCD bot 22:54, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I just posted this new article. It may or may not be worth keeping. I would appreciate interested editors to take a look at it. -- ''Paul, in Saudi'' ( talk) 03:18, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Currently there's no WikiProject on Wikidata that is dedicated to creating, improving and organizing all articles related to Korea.
It'd make sense to create it?
We could make the project work by improving the items there, and tag up the existing items.
We could also make working groups there as well.
Thanks in advance,-- CrystallineLeMonde ( talk) 16:57, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Wikidata:WikiProject Korean Entertainment It's still in early stages, help from advanced editors are requested. -- CrystallineLeMonde ( talk) 18:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
I have seen conflicting information about the content descriptors used by the Game Rating and Administration Committee. Can anyone native Korean speakers help me by checking if their images, english label and descriptions are correct? -- Trade ( talk) 08:50, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
Results as of November 18, 2020
This discussion is still ongoing
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Greetings all WikiProject Korea's Wikipedian, I would like to propose a guidelines in regards to Members section in K-Pop groups/bands article. This is to ensure that there's consistency from article to article and also other languages Wikipedia within the K-Pop groups/bands article only. Do note that this is WikiProject Korea not WikiProject United Kingdom or WikiProject United States or WikiProject Europe so we shouldn't be referring to those articles within that scope.
Currently most K-Pop groups/bands in which the members doesn't have their own Wikipedia article, would have such format
Members section
Whereas, K-Pop groups/bands where 1 or more member(s) have their own Wikipedia article, the members section wouldn't normally exists as they are already listed as link to their respective article inside the Template:Infobox musical artist.
Proposal
My proposal is that we should list out the basic information that you would normally find inside Template:Infobox musical artist, such as their Stage name (English/Romanized and Hangul), Birth name (English/Romanized, Hangul and Hanja), Date of Birth, Nationality, and their role within the group in table format. Below is 3 example:
Example 1 with Description (role) column
Stage name | Birth name | Date of Birth | Nationality | Description | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Romanized | Hangul | Romanized | Hangul | Hanja | |||
Member A | 구성원 A | Kim ... | 김 ... | 金 ... | January 1, 2000 | Korean | Vocalist, Dancer |
Example 2 without Description (role) column
Stage name | Birth name | Date of Birth | Nationality | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Romanized | Hangul | Romanized | Hangul | Hanja | ||
Member A | 구성원 A | Kim ... | 김 ... | 金 ... | January 1, 2000 | Korean |
Example 3 without Date of Birth, Nationality and Description (role) column
Stage name | Birth name | |||
---|---|---|---|---|
Romanized | Hangul | Romanized | Hangul | Hanja |
Member A | 구성원 A | Kim ... | 김 ... | 金 ... |
Why change?
The reason of initiating the proposal is because:
Wasn't this discussed before?
Yes, it was discussed before back in 2017. However, there wasn't an conclusion reached and individuals just started changing everything to suit what they like. The discussion was there after automatically archived due to lack of discussion for 6 months.
What can we do this time?
What we can do this time is to ensure that there is such guidelines inside the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Korea-related articles and Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Article guidelines so to ensure consistency.
Paper9oll | Talk:( Paper9oll) 04:57, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I've boldly updated your project's peer review page ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Peer review) by updating the instructions and archiving old reviews.
The new instructions use Wikipedia's general peer review process ( WP:PR) to list peer reviews. Your project's reviews are still able to be listed on your local page too.
The benefits of this change is that review requests will get seen by a wider audience and are likely to be attended to in a more timely way (many WikiProject peer reviews remain unanswered after years). The Wikipedia peer review process is also more maintained than most WikiProjects, and this may help save time for your active members.
I've done this boldly as it seems your peer review page is pretty inactive and I am working through around 90 such similar peer review pages. Please feel free to discuss below - please ping me ({{ u|Tom (LT)}}) in your response.
Cheers and hope you are well, Tom (LT) ( talk) 23:10, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello fellow wikipedians from Wikiproject Korea; There is an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard on the topic mentioned in the subject. Link here. As this is closely linked with Korea related topics, I invite all the wikipedians of this Wikiproject to share their opinion. Everyone's opinion will be highly valuable. Thank you. -ink&fables «talk» 03:03, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
In Local Route 32 (South Korea), there is a link to the DAB page Chungnyeolsa (tagged as {{ disambiguation needed}} since June 2019). The Korean DAB page ko:충렬사 is fuller than the English one; but none of the entries on it seems to relate to Yuseong District or Daejeon. Expert help would be welcome. Narky Blert ( talk) 17:12, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Talk:Gojong sillok#Proposed merge of Sunjong sillok with Gojong sillok. Please participate in the discussion.―― Phoenix7777 ( talk) 12:34, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
I've been working on a draft for the 2020 APAN Music Awards. Voting for certain categories took place on the Idol Champ app. I initially pulled the categories+noms from what I saw listed on the app+what was mentioned in news articles on Naver and thought that I had all the categories listed. Then select winners were announced on November 30. My problem is that I have no idea where some of the categories publicized on this date came from. Eg. the Male Solo (Global) cat was listed on the app for voting but the articles also include a cat titled 'Male solo' that is apparently a domestic category. Kang Daniel won both but idk if there were other nominees for this 'Male Solo' cat, if the noms for the global cat were the same ones used for this cat, or if this cat was announced and voted on elsewhere. Same applies to the (not global) Female Solo, Male Group and Female Group cats won by IU, BTS and Iz*one. The cats w similar titles on the app (which are the global cats) were won by Hwasa, Svntn and Blackpink so ik they're not the same award but I can't find any other polls on the app showing the former artists mentioned. Idk if there are additional nominees I need to locate+source or if only winners alone are all that was ever announced, so if anyone is familiar with this particular award ceremony or was following it since it was first announced 2 mths ago and knows what I don't, I'd appreciate any feedback on where I should look or what to do. -- Carlobunnie ( talk) 03:19, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
When refering to name pages, should they be based around how the name is romanized or how the name is spelled in hangul? Since Hangul names are often romanized in different ways, am I correct to assume that name pages would rely on the hangul to group names and include them on a page, regardless of the romanization? Jayb.rd98 ( talk) 20:20, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I need help with a draft for a K-Pop member which doesn't have a article for herself. All her member have one ber she doesn't. Can anyone check what's missing in my draft and tell me what to do since I'm fairly new to editing wikipedia? My draft is here Draft:Yeh Shuhua. I hope someone can guide me through. Thank you in advance. Justin03 ( talk) 04:38, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Personally, I don't think they are consider notable. However, I wanted some advice as I'm currently editing List of awards and nominations received by GFriend. – Paper9oll | Talk: Paper9oll 09:35, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
I have been seeing many "Melon Popularity Award" tables across numerous K-pop song articles and I am wondering if they are actually notable enough to be included. Wouldn't those awards fall under WP:SINGLEVENDOR? As compared to music show wins, I don't think they have nearly as much an impact in the K-pop industry anyways. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:46, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
I’m planning on spending a few days to bulk up the given name pages, and I was wondering if there is a decided standard formatting for the pages? Some pages use simple lists, such as the page Dong-suk while other pages use sections to separate the named individuals into occupation, such as the page Seung-hwan.
Is one format the standard? Which should I use while cleaning up and expanding on these pages? Jayb.rd98 ( talk) 03:15, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Can V Live channel be used as official website inside the infobox and also external links?
I'm asking this because SM Entertainment have ended their Star Home service on December 31, 2020, the website with .smtown.com
that is found inside SM Entertainment artist's article(s).
Currently, visiting respective SM artist's .smtown.com
site return a notice telling visitors that future news and schedules would be posted on upcoming V Live channel called "SM ARTIST OFFICIAL FANCLUB Channel". Which in turn means the website status is consider dead.
As of this writing, the channel is not yet published. However, I would be great if there's consensus on the topic. – Paper9oll ( 📣 • 📝) 06:54, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
There is a general question about how articles about dynasties are organized, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History#Organization of articles on dynasties. Thanks! — MarkH21 talk 19:24, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
I think that all names in Category:Korean given names should be moved to their spelling according to the Revized Romanization. This would also fit WP:NCKO better than the current system that just uses a rather random spelling. -- Christian140 ( talk) 16:05, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Just a note: As of January 1st, 2021, the Korea Media Rating Board changed their icons for maturity ratings. https://www.getnews.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=243006 -- Christian140 ( talk) 07:15, 19 January 2021 (UTC) You can see the new ones also featured on their website. -- Christian140 ( talk) 07:15, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 15 | Archive 16 | Archive 17 | Archive 18 | Archive 19 | Archive 20 | → | Archive 24 |
Edit: People are not reading what I have written and do not understand my point before voting. I'm not saying to add or remove every dating info, I'm saying we should discuss it page by page, and not have a general rule like discussion 1 dictating that we should delete everything when someone breaks up, significant or not. If you did not know, I'm the one that re-added Sulli's relationship info which was previously deleted because of discussion 1 even though it was significant because the couple was cyber bullied. That is why I say we discuss it per page and not have general rule like discussion 1. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 ( talk) 11:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
A few days ago, there was an edit war on
Kim Hee-chul revolving around the Relationships section and we started a discussion about whether to remove it or not. However, while discussing with the other editors, I came to the realization that the Korean artists' articles' editors hold different views on the matter and enforce removal of
verifiable and well-sourced information from
WP:BLP because they subjectively deem them insignificant or allegedly "harmful" and "sensitive information" (against
WP:CENSOR) as can be seen here
Here. Also, for years I have been told that when Korean artists' breakup the info of them dating should be deleted, and now I discovered that all that was decided against Wikipedia guidelines without any proper discussion and a consensus as seen here
discussion 1 and
discussion 2, and many of pages lost the Relationships section because a couple of editors thought they are not necessary even thought they are usually well-cited.
I raised the issue here but an admin, Guy, closed it and told me here that: "Per existing policy and guidance, you can add a relationship that's reliably sourced, remove only if you think it's not reliably sourced, and if anyone challenges a specific addition then you discuss it on the Talk page. Facts supported by reliable sources can be added, but if they are challenged by another editor it's your job to achieve consensus for inclusion."
Dating news (dating or breakup) that are well covered and are confirmed news by both parties/agencies do not fall under WP:BLPGOSSIP or WP:FAN. Dating news should be Neutral point of views, Verifiable under Korean reliable sources, and not an original research, so the points raised in discussion 1 and discussion 2 are against Wikipedia's already "existing policy and guidance" in WP:BLP. Dating news should not be deleted from the Relationships sections when it is well sourced with even international news outlets covering it by using discussion 1 as an excuse or saying all dating news are inherently insignificant. They keeps saying that any thing that doesn't contribute to the person's career should be removed, so should we also delete the birthplace, birth year, mention of family members, and education and Uni's major (if it is not acting/singing/etc.)? Please be consistent.
Relationships section can be seen in almost all artists’ articles on Wikipedia, be it a Korean artist ( Park Shin-hye, Choi Tae-joon, Jung Eun-woo, Shin Min-a, and Kim Woo-bin, etc) or western artist ( Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato, Nick Jonas, etc). There should be a fair objective standard between Korean and western artists. As the admin said, there should not be a Korean-artist-wide rule that states that sections should be deleted when a person breaks up and it should be a page-by-page consensus. Personally, I think it should either be that, or the relationships section should be totally eradication even from western artists' pages or totally allowed (with dating and breakup info) on all pages included Korean artists' pages, as we can't objectively judge if the dating news is significant or not, or the duration of the artists' relationship before the relationship is deemed long term and allowed on the page (1 year, 2 years, etc), or how famous should they be to deem the relationship significant.
To conclude, my main issue is with discussion 1 and discussion 2 suggesting that all dating news are inherently insignificant and WP:FAN if artist break up and should be removed, which is being held as a rule by editors on Korean artist’s page. What I’m hoping from starting this discussion is to reverse the immediate use of discussion 1 as an excuse to remove all dating news (dating or break up) from articles. I wish for issues of inclusion and deletion to be judged page-by-page without enforcing or using discussion 1 as an excuse on all Korean artists as being done now, since that goes against Wikipedia’s guidelines.
Format your comment to contain "Keep" the Korean-artists-wide rule reached on discussion 1 and discussion 2 about the eradication of the relationships section upon break up or "Reverse" the eradication of the relationships section upon break up, and include a rationale for your choice and please use guidelines and don't give me nonsense subjective non-Wikipedia useful reasons such as “idol dating news is sensitive” and “Public relationships between celebrities in Korea are a bit taboo” since that is WP:CENSOR. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 ( talk) 19:28, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
If inclusion is challenged then you discuss on talk. The onus is on the editor seeking to include the content, to achieve consensus for inclusion.. So in my view, it's on a case by case basis for any article, and if consensus is achieved to add the content. Isaidnoway (talk) 13:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Could somebody take a look at Draft:Yangsan Tower to verify my hunch that this is a word-for-word translation (and thus a copyright violation) from https://www.yangsan.go.kr/yangsantower/contents.do?mId=0101000000. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Can someone from the project look at the recent article South Korean IMF (International Monetary Fund) in 1997? It's in dire need of cleanup and seems to contain a lot of original research and NPOV issues. Also, the title really needs to be changed but I'm not sure what the best title would be. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Pichpich ( talk) 18:37, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi WikiProject Korea editors, Hope you're all well. I wondered if anyone had a chance to look over a draft I started as part of June's Pride theme at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red - the page is for an intersex person from the Joseon dynasty, some of which I google-translated from ko:임성구지 but then I found out more things! Here's the page: Draft:Im Seong-gu What I'd like to know is whether I've got the name of the person right? I saw a few different transliterations, which contradicted each other. Also Saganwon (사간원) is discussed in the article and I put The before it (so 'The Saganwon (사간원)') because it sounded like an organisation? Is that OK, or should 'the' be removed? Thank you for your help ( Lajmmoore ( talk) 13:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC))
A research paper was published in 2014 that disputes the popular idea that the Korean chili pepper was introduced to the country via foreign trade and that the first historical mentions of the pepper occur after the 15th century. The paper used DNA sequencing as evidence that there is no possibility of any foreign pepper of the same genus could have evolved into the genetically different Korean pepper in the amount of time needed to introduce the flavor to an entire county and integrate it into its cuisine in a way that even slightly resembles the historical records of kimchi and Korean chili powder. Furthermore, it points to older Korean historical documents that do document the presence, consumption, and popular use of Korean chili peppers, dating back to the first century.
Would this paper be enough of a verifiable reliable source to cite and introduce edits to the Korean chili pepper page?
2601:5CC:C500:1610:CD45:9DA1:B9C:C83A ( talk) 20:31, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
I've put up my suggestions on the talk page, so please do contribute if you have anything to contribute!-- Karaeng Matoaya ( talk) 16:06, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Could somebody translate https://i.ibb.co/hcwb2Q2/122-1024x1024-8-Copy.jpg for me? Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:22, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
-- Christian140 ( talk) 07:05, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
We have an article titled List of islands of South Korea, but it only lists 30 islands, although it does provide statistical data about the islands by province and the area of the 30 islands it lists. We have an article titled List of islands of Korea, which lists over 200 islands, all of which are part of South Korea. For islands of North Korea, the article refers readers to List of islands of North Korea.
Since both of these articles have content only about South Korean islands, wouldn't it be preferable to merge them? -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:47, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Please come participate in the discussion at Talk:Liancourt Rocks#Add (East sea). Thank you. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Korean mythology is very problematic, for much the same reasons that the Korean mythology article used to be. To wit:
In my opinion, all the articles above should be removed from the category, and the category itself should be split into the subcategories of "Korean oral mythology" and "Korean literary mythology" where everything could be organized more neatly. Thoughts?-- Karaeng Matoaya ( talk) 02:56, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Someone's moved Chang Bogo-class submarine to Jang Bogo-class submarine without discussion - could someone familiar with transliteration from Korean take a look? TIA Le Deluge ( talk) 10:07, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Currently there are two RFCs in The King: Eternal Monarch's page; RFC on the Second Paragraph of Lede and RFC on Reception section. Your opinion would be highly valued as you are familiar with Korea-related pages and k-dramas/TV series pages. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 ( talk) 23:43, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi I’m a new page reviewer and I’d appreciate a steer from members of this project. Recently a whole run of articles about Korean actors was created by a new user, 59.103.96.130 and all the ones I’ve looked at have been assessed on the talk page by another new user, user:AkaneNel. This seems a slightly unusual pattern and as I’m not familiar with the Korean sources it would be helpful to have some editors from this project look at some if them and see if they meet notability guidelines. Many thanks. Mccapra ( talk) 04:44, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
I just wanted to drop a quick note - it looks like several of the Ureme films are up for deletion and could use sourcing. The main article also has issues, if someone can work on it. I'm not really as familiar with Korean sourcing and can only really search using Google translate, so it would be good if someone fluent could search. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 02:51, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello, |
I wonder if this is notable enough to be translated to English Wikipedia? The Korean wiki does not cite any sources and my ability to find sources in Korean is poor... -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:02, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
From 1 October to 31 December, Women in Red is running a virtual contest on Asian women. In November, this will coincide with Wikipedia Asian Month. We look forward to strong participation from all those interested in improving coverage of Korean women.-- Ipigott ( talk) 16:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Are the sources listed in the references section of this article reliable? It looks notable, but I don't want to remove the tag without some confirmation, and unfortunately I don't read Korean. Thanks for any guidance anyone can offer! AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 03:08, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Typhoon Haishen (2020) to be moved to Typhoon Haishen. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. — RMCD bot 22:54, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I just posted this new article. It may or may not be worth keeping. I would appreciate interested editors to take a look at it. -- ''Paul, in Saudi'' ( talk) 03:18, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Currently there's no WikiProject on Wikidata that is dedicated to creating, improving and organizing all articles related to Korea.
It'd make sense to create it?
We could make the project work by improving the items there, and tag up the existing items.
We could also make working groups there as well.
Thanks in advance,-- CrystallineLeMonde ( talk) 16:57, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Wikidata:WikiProject Korean Entertainment It's still in early stages, help from advanced editors are requested. -- CrystallineLeMonde ( talk) 18:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
I have seen conflicting information about the content descriptors used by the Game Rating and Administration Committee. Can anyone native Korean speakers help me by checking if their images, english label and descriptions are correct? -- Trade ( talk) 08:50, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
Results as of November 18, 2020
This discussion is still ongoing
Support | Oppose |
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0 | 4 |
Greetings all WikiProject Korea's Wikipedian, I would like to propose a guidelines in regards to Members section in K-Pop groups/bands article. This is to ensure that there's consistency from article to article and also other languages Wikipedia within the K-Pop groups/bands article only. Do note that this is WikiProject Korea not WikiProject United Kingdom or WikiProject United States or WikiProject Europe so we shouldn't be referring to those articles within that scope.
Currently most K-Pop groups/bands in which the members doesn't have their own Wikipedia article, would have such format
Members section
Whereas, K-Pop groups/bands where 1 or more member(s) have their own Wikipedia article, the members section wouldn't normally exists as they are already listed as link to their respective article inside the Template:Infobox musical artist.
Proposal
My proposal is that we should list out the basic information that you would normally find inside Template:Infobox musical artist, such as their Stage name (English/Romanized and Hangul), Birth name (English/Romanized, Hangul and Hanja), Date of Birth, Nationality, and their role within the group in table format. Below is 3 example:
Example 1 with Description (role) column
Stage name | Birth name | Date of Birth | Nationality | Description | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Romanized | Hangul | Romanized | Hangul | Hanja | |||
Member A | 구성원 A | Kim ... | 김 ... | 金 ... | January 1, 2000 | Korean | Vocalist, Dancer |
Example 2 without Description (role) column
Stage name | Birth name | Date of Birth | Nationality | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Romanized | Hangul | Romanized | Hangul | Hanja | ||
Member A | 구성원 A | Kim ... | 김 ... | 金 ... | January 1, 2000 | Korean |
Example 3 without Date of Birth, Nationality and Description (role) column
Stage name | Birth name | |||
---|---|---|---|---|
Romanized | Hangul | Romanized | Hangul | Hanja |
Member A | 구성원 A | Kim ... | 김 ... | 金 ... |
Why change?
The reason of initiating the proposal is because:
Wasn't this discussed before?
Yes, it was discussed before back in 2017. However, there wasn't an conclusion reached and individuals just started changing everything to suit what they like. The discussion was there after automatically archived due to lack of discussion for 6 months.
What can we do this time?
What we can do this time is to ensure that there is such guidelines inside the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Korea-related articles and Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Article guidelines so to ensure consistency.
Paper9oll | Talk:( Paper9oll) 04:57, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi all, I've boldly updated your project's peer review page ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Peer review) by updating the instructions and archiving old reviews.
The new instructions use Wikipedia's general peer review process ( WP:PR) to list peer reviews. Your project's reviews are still able to be listed on your local page too.
The benefits of this change is that review requests will get seen by a wider audience and are likely to be attended to in a more timely way (many WikiProject peer reviews remain unanswered after years). The Wikipedia peer review process is also more maintained than most WikiProjects, and this may help save time for your active members.
I've done this boldly as it seems your peer review page is pretty inactive and I am working through around 90 such similar peer review pages. Please feel free to discuss below - please ping me ({{ u|Tom (LT)}}) in your response.
Cheers and hope you are well, Tom (LT) ( talk) 23:10, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello fellow wikipedians from Wikiproject Korea; There is an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard on the topic mentioned in the subject. Link here. As this is closely linked with Korea related topics, I invite all the wikipedians of this Wikiproject to share their opinion. Everyone's opinion will be highly valuable. Thank you. -ink&fables «talk» 03:03, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
In Local Route 32 (South Korea), there is a link to the DAB page Chungnyeolsa (tagged as {{ disambiguation needed}} since June 2019). The Korean DAB page ko:충렬사 is fuller than the English one; but none of the entries on it seems to relate to Yuseong District or Daejeon. Expert help would be welcome. Narky Blert ( talk) 17:12, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Talk:Gojong sillok#Proposed merge of Sunjong sillok with Gojong sillok. Please participate in the discussion.―― Phoenix7777 ( talk) 12:34, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
I've been working on a draft for the 2020 APAN Music Awards. Voting for certain categories took place on the Idol Champ app. I initially pulled the categories+noms from what I saw listed on the app+what was mentioned in news articles on Naver and thought that I had all the categories listed. Then select winners were announced on November 30. My problem is that I have no idea where some of the categories publicized on this date came from. Eg. the Male Solo (Global) cat was listed on the app for voting but the articles also include a cat titled 'Male solo' that is apparently a domestic category. Kang Daniel won both but idk if there were other nominees for this 'Male Solo' cat, if the noms for the global cat were the same ones used for this cat, or if this cat was announced and voted on elsewhere. Same applies to the (not global) Female Solo, Male Group and Female Group cats won by IU, BTS and Iz*one. The cats w similar titles on the app (which are the global cats) were won by Hwasa, Svntn and Blackpink so ik they're not the same award but I can't find any other polls on the app showing the former artists mentioned. Idk if there are additional nominees I need to locate+source or if only winners alone are all that was ever announced, so if anyone is familiar with this particular award ceremony or was following it since it was first announced 2 mths ago and knows what I don't, I'd appreciate any feedback on where I should look or what to do. -- Carlobunnie ( talk) 03:19, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
When refering to name pages, should they be based around how the name is romanized or how the name is spelled in hangul? Since Hangul names are often romanized in different ways, am I correct to assume that name pages would rely on the hangul to group names and include them on a page, regardless of the romanization? Jayb.rd98 ( talk) 20:20, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I need help with a draft for a K-Pop member which doesn't have a article for herself. All her member have one ber she doesn't. Can anyone check what's missing in my draft and tell me what to do since I'm fairly new to editing wikipedia? My draft is here Draft:Yeh Shuhua. I hope someone can guide me through. Thank you in advance. Justin03 ( talk) 04:38, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Personally, I don't think they are consider notable. However, I wanted some advice as I'm currently editing List of awards and nominations received by GFriend. – Paper9oll | Talk: Paper9oll 09:35, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
I have been seeing many "Melon Popularity Award" tables across numerous K-pop song articles and I am wondering if they are actually notable enough to be included. Wouldn't those awards fall under WP:SINGLEVENDOR? As compared to music show wins, I don't think they have nearly as much an impact in the K-pop industry anyways. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:46, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
I’m planning on spending a few days to bulk up the given name pages, and I was wondering if there is a decided standard formatting for the pages? Some pages use simple lists, such as the page Dong-suk while other pages use sections to separate the named individuals into occupation, such as the page Seung-hwan.
Is one format the standard? Which should I use while cleaning up and expanding on these pages? Jayb.rd98 ( talk) 03:15, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Can V Live channel be used as official website inside the infobox and also external links?
I'm asking this because SM Entertainment have ended their Star Home service on December 31, 2020, the website with .smtown.com
that is found inside SM Entertainment artist's article(s).
Currently, visiting respective SM artist's .smtown.com
site return a notice telling visitors that future news and schedules would be posted on upcoming V Live channel called "SM ARTIST OFFICIAL FANCLUB Channel". Which in turn means the website status is consider dead.
As of this writing, the channel is not yet published. However, I would be great if there's consensus on the topic. – Paper9oll ( 📣 • 📝) 06:54, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
There is a general question about how articles about dynasties are organized, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History#Organization of articles on dynasties. Thanks! — MarkH21 talk 19:24, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
I think that all names in Category:Korean given names should be moved to their spelling according to the Revized Romanization. This would also fit WP:NCKO better than the current system that just uses a rather random spelling. -- Christian140 ( talk) 16:05, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Just a note: As of January 1st, 2021, the Korea Media Rating Board changed their icons for maturity ratings. https://www.getnews.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=243006 -- Christian140 ( talk) 07:15, 19 January 2021 (UTC) You can see the new ones also featured on their website. -- Christian140 ( talk) 07:15, 19 January 2021 (UTC)