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After reading the copyright law of Japan, I have given rise to a new license template: Template:PD-Japan-exempt. This is mostly for images created based on Japanese law, including local and national laws. These include national and prefectural symbols, so far. I suggest to use this template here for some of our prefectural symbols, and if you feel like doing Commons tagging, the template is there also. Any and all corrections to the template are welcome. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 07:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
This sounds like what's we are looking for.
The problem is Wikipedia prefers not to use fair use images. (This is something I don't necessarily agree with, though.) -- Taku ( talk) 11:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Taku, that license is designed for images derived from actual law, or based on laws. This page was what this license is intended for. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 15:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I took your hint and started on it on my own: User:Zscout370/jpmon. Nagano and Shiga prefectures have the format of what I am looking for in links, so everyone else can use those pages as examples. I still have some links saved in my bookmarks folder. Everyone in WP:JA is welcome to add to it. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Who merits an encyclopedia article? That's a question numerous Wikipedia discussions have addressed. The deletion discussion of the article Karasawa Genba leads to a more specific question: Which Sengoku generals should have articles about them? Is the only criterion the existence of external references? Or even with external references, are some noteworthy and others not? Can we draw up any general guidance? Can we prepare a ready-made answer to the charge that usually arises in deletion discussions, "non-notable"? Fg2 ( talk) 02:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Fg2 ( talk) 11:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Everyone with an interest in Template:Administrative divisions of Japan: I've posted a question at Template talk:Administrative divisions of Japan#Which entities belong at each level? and am looking for input before editing the template. Fg2 ( talk) 10:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
An editor has created the article Kanagawa's 11th district and the Category:Parliamentary districts of the Diet of Japan. If anyone wants to suggest other naming, it'll be simplest to change before we get hundreds of articles (which we eventually should, perhaps). Fg2 ( talk) 11:53, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
The opinion has been expressed that the sources on the religion section of the overall/general Japan article are not credible enough, not reliable/verifiable enough. If better sources are not found ASAP, drastic changes will be made to that section, removing discussion of the fact that while the vast majority of Japanese are officially counted by Shinto shrines and Buddhist temples both as belonging to those institutions, most Japanese when asked directly will claim to not be religious. This is a crucial aspect of religion in modern Japan.
Can anyone please please please help!? Surely someone out there must be a Religions of Japan scholar, with proper serious professional academic sources? LordAmeth ( talk) 13:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Trying to figure out the Japanese name of this ship which sank in 1912 in order to find more sources, because there's literally none in English (probably because the contemporary reporting screwed up the name). My cursory investigation turned up a ship that sank on the same date and caused a similarly large number of deaths; however, the name of that ship was 梅ヶ香丸. Please comment at Talk:SS Kiche Maru if you have any idea. Thanks! cab ( talk) 02:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
So, after two or three weeks, it's time to question whether there was a ship named SS Kiche Maru. Is the information in the article true, but describing a different ship? Or should we delete the article? Fg2 ( talk) 02:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Japanese destroyer Fubuki: Commissioned: August 10, 1928. ja:松型駆逐艦#同型艦橘型 橘(たちばな):1945年1月20日竣工(横須賀海軍工廠)。同年7月14日函館港内で沈没。
This article is no longer a stub. It still needs work. Berkeleysappho ( talk) 05:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I'll change it back after Valentine's Day. (^_^) ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
The Japanese honorifics page is a description of Japanese keigo, and several comments on the talk page have (correctly I think) noted that the title is therefore somewhat misleading. Honorific speech in Japanese is probably more appropriate. Please discuss here. Bikasuishin ( talk) 10:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
The article Dō (Way) was created recently. Not sure what the correct relationship of this article to Tao is. The disambiguation page Do says that Do may refer to "Dō (道) or Tao, the way and order of the universe in Chinese philosophy," linking to both articles. Dō (Way) does not link to any Japanese article, but the apparent candidate is 道 (哲学). However, this already links to Tao. Should these be combined, and if not, what's the best way to distinguish them? Fg2 ( talk) 00:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I just created an article at Torakichi Nakamura. I would appreciate any expansion that can be done to it, including the Japanese charactes for his name. Corvus cornix talk 22:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
UNESCO refers to universities by Japanese names, so redirects need to be made from the UNESCO names to the proper names. See this: http://www.unesco.org/iau/onlinedatabases/list_data/j-nw.html ?
UNESCO refers to universities by Japanese names, so redirects need to be made from the UNESCO names to the proper (I.E. Wikipedia MOS-compliant) names. That way if some guy starts typing any of the names from the UNESCO list, he or she will get a redirect to the right place. WhisperToMe ( talk) 00:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
An interesting question has arisen about the article
Nanori. Please see
User talk:Fg2#Nanori. Also
Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#moto in japanese. Comments?
Fg2 (
talk) 02:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
We're debating the wording of Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English sources. Please comment at Wikipedia talk:Verifiability#Requirement of direct quotation for use of non-English sources. Thanks, cab ( talk) 05:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Friends, can you help me fill in some blanks? Thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) ( talk) 22:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Although right now I get "General Error SQL ERROR [mysql4]
Got error 127 from storage engine [1030]
An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists."
Chris (クリス • フィッチ) ( talk) 22:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
There's a debate going on at Template talk:Female adult bio (bottom section, "Another question") concerning, specifically, the Weight and Blood Type fields of that template. Since a suggestion has been made that the Japanese subjects might be better served using a separate template, the discussion may be of interest to members of Project Japan. Regards, Dekkappai ( talk) 21:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Please come participate over here. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
User:Bueller 007 disputes the accuracy of an attributed meaning for one or more Japanese era names -- see here.
This represents a problem which cannot be resolved in a Talk-page exchange of views. :::-- Tenmei ( talk) 20:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I no longer believe that a constructive outcome is achievable in this talk-page setting. In my view, this is not a dispute which can be resolved on this page. For the time being, I continue to oppose any major reformatting edit User:Bueller 007 may be contemplating.
Whatever good which might have attended a discussion here is best held in abeyance pending whatever develops from inquiries at WP:WQA. In this context, I take some comfort in learning from HelloAnnyong that, at the higher levels of dispute resolution, both users come under scrutiny. I'm quite confident that my entire editing history can withstand close scrutiny. I can't see how User:Bueller 007 can feel similarly at ease with the prospect of a too-revealing examination. -- Tenmei ( talk) 21:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
An anon wrote something in Japanese at Talk:Kiyama, Saga. Could someone see if it important? All I could understand with my Japanese is that he's saying something "is not". Maybe there's a mistake in the article. Cattus talk 20:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I found the names of the JAL123 pilots. "The pilots, including Captain Masami Takahama,[2]first officer Yutaka Sasaki, and flight engineer Hiroshi Fukuda,[3] "
What are the kanji used for their names? WhisperToMe ( talk) 22:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
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A | 7 |
GA | 28 |
B | 620 |
C | 0 |
Start | 3717 |
Stub | 7661 |
List | 183 |
NA | 127 |
Unassessed | 3555 |
Total tagged: 15,969 | |
Importance | |
Top | 65 |
High | 334 |
Mid | 507 |
Low | 1287 |
Unassessed | 12,925 |
I was just updating the numbers on the quality stats template and was surprised by how many articles have been tagged as Japan-related. Take a look at the template. (^_^). ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I have just redone the article for inka and while transcribing a direct quote encountered a character I cannot find. It has to do with the emperor's seal, and in the currect article appears as (IP)—however, the I looked much more like a backwards P (but not quite). I was wondering if someone knows what this is if they could fix the I to reflect this. ( Mind meal ( talk) 12:20, 23 February 2008 (UTC))
Content on this page is under dispute at present: the main tensions are related to whether there is racial/racist connotation to the word, and undue weight issues related to the various interpretations. Other voices and commentators welcome.-- Slp1 ( talk) 16:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I have finished translating a long article about the Five Mountain System (which was a Buddhist temple ranking system that institutionalized Zen during the Kamakura and Muromachi periods). I haven't released it into the wild, yet, because even if the issue is obscure, it implies changes to at the very least ten articles (the ten that concern the ten Five Mountain temples, all very important) and the creation (I believe) of several redirect pages so, before I step onto somebody toes, I want to solve a problem of terminology to everyone's satisfaction.
The issue for me centers on the fact that the Kamakura Five Mountains and the Kyoto Five Mountains are most frequently called (but not by specialists) Five Zen Temples or Five Great Zen temples, a name I despise because hopelessly vague; it also deliberately obfuscates the existence of a complex and historically significant ranking system.
Unfortunately, as bad as they are these terms are likely points of entry of visitors. I would acknowledge the existence of the term Kamakura or Kyoto Five Zen Temples with a redirect page, and use elsewhere the terms reference books use, that is Five Mountains or Five Mountain temples. I would also create redirect pages for Gozan (the German and French Wikipedias actually put the Five Mountain article under that title), Kamakura Gozan, Kyoto Gozan, Gozan System and Five Mountains. Anyone has strong opinions on the subject? Sorry for the long talk, but I couldn't make it any shorter.
Urashimataro ( talk) 02:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Sure.
User:Urashimataro/Gozan_System
Urashimataro ( talk) 02:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
What is the kanji of Kazuyoshi Miura (businessman)'s wife, Kazumi Miura? WhisperToMe ( talk) 07:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
What is the kanji of Tamotsu Kuma, the guy with Yoshimi Ichikawa when Ichikawa's plane crashed into All Nippon Airways Flight 58? And there is Akira Emoto and his wife, Chieko - Emoto tried to blow up an ANA plane in 1958 after diving out of it, but the bombs did not explode (that saved the lives of Chieko and the other passengers). [11] WhisperToMe ( talk) 07:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Despite the prods, the articles "Bringing forth new life" and Sadako Kurihara seem to be notable, can anyone boost these? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) ( talk) 05:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Japan Project‑class | ||||||||||||||
|
Talk & archives for WP Japan |
---|
Project talk
|
Task force talk/archives ↔ = joint task force |
Search the archives: |
V· T· E |
After reading the copyright law of Japan, I have given rise to a new license template: Template:PD-Japan-exempt. This is mostly for images created based on Japanese law, including local and national laws. These include national and prefectural symbols, so far. I suggest to use this template here for some of our prefectural symbols, and if you feel like doing Commons tagging, the template is there also. Any and all corrections to the template are welcome. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 07:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
This sounds like what's we are looking for.
The problem is Wikipedia prefers not to use fair use images. (This is something I don't necessarily agree with, though.) -- Taku ( talk) 11:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Taku, that license is designed for images derived from actual law, or based on laws. This page was what this license is intended for. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 15:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I took your hint and started on it on my own: User:Zscout370/jpmon. Nagano and Shiga prefectures have the format of what I am looking for in links, so everyone else can use those pages as examples. I still have some links saved in my bookmarks folder. Everyone in WP:JA is welcome to add to it. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Who merits an encyclopedia article? That's a question numerous Wikipedia discussions have addressed. The deletion discussion of the article Karasawa Genba leads to a more specific question: Which Sengoku generals should have articles about them? Is the only criterion the existence of external references? Or even with external references, are some noteworthy and others not? Can we draw up any general guidance? Can we prepare a ready-made answer to the charge that usually arises in deletion discussions, "non-notable"? Fg2 ( talk) 02:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Fg2 ( talk) 11:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Everyone with an interest in Template:Administrative divisions of Japan: I've posted a question at Template talk:Administrative divisions of Japan#Which entities belong at each level? and am looking for input before editing the template. Fg2 ( talk) 10:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
An editor has created the article Kanagawa's 11th district and the Category:Parliamentary districts of the Diet of Japan. If anyone wants to suggest other naming, it'll be simplest to change before we get hundreds of articles (which we eventually should, perhaps). Fg2 ( talk) 11:53, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
The opinion has been expressed that the sources on the religion section of the overall/general Japan article are not credible enough, not reliable/verifiable enough. If better sources are not found ASAP, drastic changes will be made to that section, removing discussion of the fact that while the vast majority of Japanese are officially counted by Shinto shrines and Buddhist temples both as belonging to those institutions, most Japanese when asked directly will claim to not be religious. This is a crucial aspect of religion in modern Japan.
Can anyone please please please help!? Surely someone out there must be a Religions of Japan scholar, with proper serious professional academic sources? LordAmeth ( talk) 13:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Trying to figure out the Japanese name of this ship which sank in 1912 in order to find more sources, because there's literally none in English (probably because the contemporary reporting screwed up the name). My cursory investigation turned up a ship that sank on the same date and caused a similarly large number of deaths; however, the name of that ship was 梅ヶ香丸. Please comment at Talk:SS Kiche Maru if you have any idea. Thanks! cab ( talk) 02:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
So, after two or three weeks, it's time to question whether there was a ship named SS Kiche Maru. Is the information in the article true, but describing a different ship? Or should we delete the article? Fg2 ( talk) 02:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Japanese destroyer Fubuki: Commissioned: August 10, 1928. ja:松型駆逐艦#同型艦橘型 橘(たちばな):1945年1月20日竣工(横須賀海軍工廠)。同年7月14日函館港内で沈没。
This article is no longer a stub. It still needs work. Berkeleysappho ( talk) 05:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I'll change it back after Valentine's Day. (^_^) ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
The Japanese honorifics page is a description of Japanese keigo, and several comments on the talk page have (correctly I think) noted that the title is therefore somewhat misleading. Honorific speech in Japanese is probably more appropriate. Please discuss here. Bikasuishin ( talk) 10:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
The article Dō (Way) was created recently. Not sure what the correct relationship of this article to Tao is. The disambiguation page Do says that Do may refer to "Dō (道) or Tao, the way and order of the universe in Chinese philosophy," linking to both articles. Dō (Way) does not link to any Japanese article, but the apparent candidate is 道 (哲学). However, this already links to Tao. Should these be combined, and if not, what's the best way to distinguish them? Fg2 ( talk) 00:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I just created an article at Torakichi Nakamura. I would appreciate any expansion that can be done to it, including the Japanese charactes for his name. Corvus cornix talk 22:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
UNESCO refers to universities by Japanese names, so redirects need to be made from the UNESCO names to the proper names. See this: http://www.unesco.org/iau/onlinedatabases/list_data/j-nw.html ?
UNESCO refers to universities by Japanese names, so redirects need to be made from the UNESCO names to the proper (I.E. Wikipedia MOS-compliant) names. That way if some guy starts typing any of the names from the UNESCO list, he or she will get a redirect to the right place. WhisperToMe ( talk) 00:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
An interesting question has arisen about the article
Nanori. Please see
User talk:Fg2#Nanori. Also
Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#moto in japanese. Comments?
Fg2 (
talk) 02:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
We're debating the wording of Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English sources. Please comment at Wikipedia talk:Verifiability#Requirement of direct quotation for use of non-English sources. Thanks, cab ( talk) 05:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Friends, can you help me fill in some blanks? Thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) ( talk) 22:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Although right now I get "General Error SQL ERROR [mysql4]
Got error 127 from storage engine [1030]
An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists."
Chris (クリス • フィッチ) ( talk) 22:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
There's a debate going on at Template talk:Female adult bio (bottom section, "Another question") concerning, specifically, the Weight and Blood Type fields of that template. Since a suggestion has been made that the Japanese subjects might be better served using a separate template, the discussion may be of interest to members of Project Japan. Regards, Dekkappai ( talk) 21:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Please come participate over here. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
User:Bueller 007 disputes the accuracy of an attributed meaning for one or more Japanese era names -- see here.
This represents a problem which cannot be resolved in a Talk-page exchange of views. :::-- Tenmei ( talk) 20:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I no longer believe that a constructive outcome is achievable in this talk-page setting. In my view, this is not a dispute which can be resolved on this page. For the time being, I continue to oppose any major reformatting edit User:Bueller 007 may be contemplating.
Whatever good which might have attended a discussion here is best held in abeyance pending whatever develops from inquiries at WP:WQA. In this context, I take some comfort in learning from HelloAnnyong that, at the higher levels of dispute resolution, both users come under scrutiny. I'm quite confident that my entire editing history can withstand close scrutiny. I can't see how User:Bueller 007 can feel similarly at ease with the prospect of a too-revealing examination. -- Tenmei ( talk) 21:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
An anon wrote something in Japanese at Talk:Kiyama, Saga. Could someone see if it important? All I could understand with my Japanese is that he's saying something "is not". Maybe there's a mistake in the article. Cattus talk 20:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I found the names of the JAL123 pilots. "The pilots, including Captain Masami Takahama,[2]first officer Yutaka Sasaki, and flight engineer Hiroshi Fukuda,[3] "
What are the kanji used for their names? WhisperToMe ( talk) 22:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Quality | |
---|---|
FA | 71 |
A | 7 |
GA | 28 |
B | 620 |
C | 0 |
Start | 3717 |
Stub | 7661 |
List | 183 |
NA | 127 |
Unassessed | 3555 |
Total tagged: 15,969 | |
Importance | |
Top | 65 |
High | 334 |
Mid | 507 |
Low | 1287 |
Unassessed | 12,925 |
I was just updating the numbers on the quality stats template and was surprised by how many articles have been tagged as Japan-related. Take a look at the template. (^_^). ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 03:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I have just redone the article for inka and while transcribing a direct quote encountered a character I cannot find. It has to do with the emperor's seal, and in the currect article appears as (IP)—however, the I looked much more like a backwards P (but not quite). I was wondering if someone knows what this is if they could fix the I to reflect this. ( Mind meal ( talk) 12:20, 23 February 2008 (UTC))
Content on this page is under dispute at present: the main tensions are related to whether there is racial/racist connotation to the word, and undue weight issues related to the various interpretations. Other voices and commentators welcome.-- Slp1 ( talk) 16:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I have finished translating a long article about the Five Mountain System (which was a Buddhist temple ranking system that institutionalized Zen during the Kamakura and Muromachi periods). I haven't released it into the wild, yet, because even if the issue is obscure, it implies changes to at the very least ten articles (the ten that concern the ten Five Mountain temples, all very important) and the creation (I believe) of several redirect pages so, before I step onto somebody toes, I want to solve a problem of terminology to everyone's satisfaction.
The issue for me centers on the fact that the Kamakura Five Mountains and the Kyoto Five Mountains are most frequently called (but not by specialists) Five Zen Temples or Five Great Zen temples, a name I despise because hopelessly vague; it also deliberately obfuscates the existence of a complex and historically significant ranking system.
Unfortunately, as bad as they are these terms are likely points of entry of visitors. I would acknowledge the existence of the term Kamakura or Kyoto Five Zen Temples with a redirect page, and use elsewhere the terms reference books use, that is Five Mountains or Five Mountain temples. I would also create redirect pages for Gozan (the German and French Wikipedias actually put the Five Mountain article under that title), Kamakura Gozan, Kyoto Gozan, Gozan System and Five Mountains. Anyone has strong opinions on the subject? Sorry for the long talk, but I couldn't make it any shorter.
Urashimataro ( talk) 02:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Sure.
User:Urashimataro/Gozan_System
Urashimataro ( talk) 02:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
What is the kanji of Kazuyoshi Miura (businessman)'s wife, Kazumi Miura? WhisperToMe ( talk) 07:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
What is the kanji of Tamotsu Kuma, the guy with Yoshimi Ichikawa when Ichikawa's plane crashed into All Nippon Airways Flight 58? And there is Akira Emoto and his wife, Chieko - Emoto tried to blow up an ANA plane in 1958 after diving out of it, but the bombs did not explode (that saved the lives of Chieko and the other passengers). [11] WhisperToMe ( talk) 07:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Despite the prods, the articles "Bringing forth new life" and Sadako Kurihara seem to be notable, can anyone boost these? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) ( talk) 05:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)