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I've run across a few clips of a small fretless lute apparently played in Himachal Pradesh (perhaps by the Gaddis?). I think I've seen some spellings like ruwana/rowana/etc., but found one single forum post somewhere (google "riwana melodyjunction" to see the forum) where someone shows a nice clear picture, description, and labels it riwana. I made a very rough stub riwana, but would like to find more data on this instrument to get the article going. Anyone have any idea? I've had similar experiences with Asian instruments where just finding the right spelling/term to GoogleBooks suddenly allowed an article to flourish. In the meantime, here's a cool YouTube clip of a singer strumming the instrument with one hand while playing drums with the other: just search "A Folk Singer, Himachal Pradesh, India". Note that I have to provide search-terms vice links since YT won't allow ELs to such non-RS sites. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 22:40, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello everyone,
I recently nominated Street children in India to be a Good Article, but it does not yet have an editor. If anyone is willing to be the editor for the nomination, that would be wonderful!
Thanks! KiaraDouds ( talk) 02:08, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Whilst preparing to set User:FlagBot loose on some India articles, I generate a lot of data that can be used for other purposes. For instance, I can scan for interwiki links, follow them, and analyse the pages on the other end. Just over 6% of WP India articles have an interwiki link to the Hindi version of Wikipedia, and over at User:FlagSteward/sandbox I've created lists of articles that could be improved with reference to the Hindi Wikipedia :
I don't know any Hindi so having generated the lists it's over to you guys! I'm keeping myself more than busy at the moment - the Flagbot data is great for catching malformed articles, things like articles without categories, and stub templates on articles that are 20kb or more in length(!) I've also been checking up on some of the population data in infoboxes - it's a pretty good rule that any population ending in ,000 is suspect, and there's a lot of them. It's also been surprising to me just how many of those population figures have been vandalised over the years - examples I've caught include Gudiyatham, Gun Carriage Factory Jabalpur, Behror and Birsinghpur. It doesn't help that we're still waiting for the full data from the 2011 census, so aside from the vandals, we've got good-faith editors adding a mix of 2011 district data and unreferenced post-2001 estimates of population. It's not worth really attacking it until the full data arrives, but it's going to be a big job when it comes. Anyway, I hope people will at least look at those lists in my sandbox - those lists of images and text represent a great source of "easy meat" for improving en.wiki, and even just checking a few interwiki links would be helpful. FlagSteward ( talk) 01:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Balwant Singh Rajoana article appears to be cut and paste but cannot confirm the source.It is about the assassin of Beant Singh(Chief Minister).It has NPOV issues .It is a current issue article as the person is in the news.Can anyone please take a look. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 14:20, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Would it be possible for those engaged in the tag and assess drive (I am one, although not signed up) to at least add an edit summary when they assess. I am seeing far too many talk page contributions that lack summaries & it is confusing, if only because that style is often indicative of someone turning up to refactor old comments etc. I am probably seeing 10 or so examples per day, from a wide range of participants. Even typing "assess" would be better than nothing. - Sitush ( talk) 23:23, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone have plans to write Denzil Smith? I found his website http://www.denzilsmith.com/film.htm - He plays Lee Kap in Ek Ajnabee WhisperToMe ( talk) 07:59, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello everyone,
Can someone please re-evaluate this list for India project? It is currently marked 'Low' though it's a Featured list candidate now...I do't believe it should be low. I may be wrong as I'm not fully aware of the criteria but it looks pretty good now (i have recently reforemed it) I am looking forward to your comments and evaluation! thanks! Merlaysamuel : Chat 11:56, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the clarification :) Merlaysamuel : Chat 21:00, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Having spent some time lately looking at the Featured List candidate List of The Doon School alumni, I began to think about India's more historic schools, some of which seem to be languishing in little stubs. It would be good if someone here is willing to look at those pages and add reliable content to them. Here is a small list (off the top of my head). Please add other historic schools to the list as well.
Fowler&fowler «Talk» 12:01, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Adding these two.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 15:02, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Are you all aware of this new article feed by Alexbot - Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/New_articles. It works by scanning new articles as per rule set in this page - User:AlexNewArtBot/India. Useful to add new articles to the WikiProject. AshLin ( talk) 03:42, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
As per the voting which happened on the nominations page, the results are as follows:
I shall be publishing the report of the March collaboration - A. P. J Abdul Kalam soon! Looking forward to some healthy collaboration for the month of April.
Happy Collaborating :) BPositive (talk) 05:33, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
The number of unassessed articles on WikiProject India currently stands at more than 18,000! Im wondering if there is an active task force or even a single member of the project that is dealing with these assessments? [1] Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 12:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
AshLin ( talk) 18:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Once that's done, we can be on our way. :) AshLin ( talk) 19:52, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
May I also request for a volunteer to coordinate this event. We would appreciate someone who is not already associated with city SIG/Language SIG/outreach or GLAM project to run this. If you are a new to this kind of responsibility and willing to volunteer, I will guide & help you & hold your hand through the process. AshLin ( talk) 18:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
I would like to take this opportunity to thank Sriram ( User:Ssriram mt) for volunteering to take on this responsibility. It is great when experienced editors stand forth and lead and I'm sure he will do a great job. Please welcome him to the team of people in charge of responsibility in WikiProject India. Sriram, you have the complete support of the community. Happy editing. AshLin ( talk) 04:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi All,
I went through the list of articles coming up as unassessed and I came across 16 articles that I have assessed and yet they are showing up in the list. I did the assessment on the 25th of March. Can someone please look this up?-- Wikishagnik ( talk) 20:08, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello all,
A report of the previous months Collaboration of the Month (COTM) has been posted at Wikipedia:INCOTM/INCOTM Reports. Now onwards, all the reports will be posted on the same page. Feel free to post your comments. Happy collaborating :) BPositive (talk) 14:28, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
There are 2 pages for listing recognised content on WP:India - [2] and [3], while the former seems to be up to date, the latter is not. I think we should delete the latter. Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 13:42, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Done Iv redirected Featured and good content to Recognized content.
Around The Globe
सत्यमेव जयते
07:37, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi everyone! I just wanted to follow up with your project and see if any article creations or improvements took place in regards to Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month! If so, it'd be great if you could please post your article outcomes on the..you guessed it...WWHM outcome page! Thanks everyone for all your efforts! Sarah ( talk) 20:53, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I would like to inform the community that we have one more volunteer who has agreed to coordinate Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force – User:Animeshkulkarni. We welcome Animesh to his new role! Please welcome him on the talk page. — Vensatry (Ping me) 03:06, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I request any editor who's working in the films area of the project to please have a look at Cinema of Andhra Pradesh. It seems to be a very trivial issue, but there's an editor who's quite "excited" about it. Please discuss on the talk page if necessary and contact me about it. Thanks, Lynch 7 19:53, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Dear all, This is a call for interested volunteers to help out with the English page of Wikipatrika that is going to come out by the end of April 2012. User:AshLin has kindly agreed to help out with it. User:Karthikndr has also offered to help. It would be great if we had few more volunteers who could help compile all the news related to English Wikipedians in India. Here is how the page looked in the last issue. All you have to do is list your names below and I hope AshLin can direct us where to add the news after that. Thanks! Noopur28 ( talk) 18:42, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
User:Buddhakahika, who created the page Buddhist Brahmins, has been blocked indefinitely for abusing multiple accounts ( Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Buddhakahika). I worry that since this page has largely been edited by Buddhakahika and his/her sockpuppets, that it lacks a neutral, objective perspective. I also worry that, given Buddhakahika's other efforts on Wikipedia to promote a particular religious organization (headed by Zen Acharya, who is cited in Buddhist Brahmins), the page may not be factually accurate, and may ultimately promote the position of this organization. I am not an expert in this, so I hope more expert eyes could look over the article. (I am also contacting WikiProject Buddhism.) Michitaro ( talk) 03:37, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
So, what do we call it? Please comment at Talk:Bharata_Khanda#Article_title.-- regentspark ( comment) 15:28, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
The article Ghasidas (initator of the Satnami denomination of Hinduism in parts of India, and among the Chamar) has been a nightmare of POV for years. Following some suggestions in the Edit Summaries, I've wiped the article, built up a stub based on a few sources, and we can go from there. Here are the the diffs if anyone's curious how bad it was. As an example, it used phrases like:
You get the basic idea. That version is no more, mentioning here for posterity, any scholars of discourse analysis, etc. and as a general example of the terrible articles that have lingered far too long, and this one for a relatively major figure in a significant branch of one of the world's largest religions. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 17:47, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at [[
Talk:Tirumala Venkateswara Temple]]. Pavan 01:43, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Please participate in the RFC discussion of whether Thondaiman has built the Tirumala Temple. Pavan 01:43, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
User:Yuvipanda has created an excellent tool to help editors who are assessing manually in Tag & Assess 2012. The tool is under Beta release and we request assessors to please install, use it and give him feedback. Since the post is long and includes the instructions to setup, to use & to give feedback, it has been made available as a Google document freely accessible to all.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/176bySLlr-fRcMYw-h4k-btL5x08qegY7Ipj2DQLHdQE/edit?pli=1
AshLin ( talk) 22:33, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
( edit conflict) Feedback:
-- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
On Tara (Ramayana), the bar shows class as Stub, but it is marked as GA. Please check. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:22, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
I notice that we have a species article South Asian river dolphin, and a subspecies article Indus River dolphin, but the official Indian animal, Ganges River dolphin is only a redirect... Shouldn't an article be built for the subspecies? 70.24.248.211 ( talk) 08:33, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Documentation for Assessment Bar has been created and integrated as Part 4 of the user guide :
Suggestions for improvement welcome on concerned talk page.
AshLin ( talk) 11:44, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Are being compiled here - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_India/Assessment/Tag_&_Assess_2012/Guide_-_Part_4#Improvements_planned_for_Release_2.0. AshLin ( talk) 16:17, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
There has been a recent push by a few editors to get a "WikiProject Ravidassia" going, so I dropped in to check it out. The group is showing some initial skill at formatting and some level of semi-decent sourcing. However, lots of the typical issues of overly flowery devotional prose, lengthy scriptural quotes, praise of key saints, etc.
Most troubling, my vague impression from glancing around is that Ravidassia was a sub-set of Sikhism, but extremely recently (in the last few years) broke away after Sikh extremists killed several Ravidassia. My concern is that these articles are being given a historically revisionist slant to eschew any past association with Sikhs, and to promote a view of Ravidassia which claims an independent line of religion back to medieval India.
This bears some watching, and I'm going to talk to some of the major editors about these neutrality issues and the like, but if anyone else is interested in smaller Indian religions, and feels neutral enough to tackle what I presume is also a sensitive issue on the Sikh side of the house, it would be good to ensure Wiki doesn't end up being slanted on an agenda. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 22:05, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Dear all, hello! I have recently proposed a merger of several stubs of a repetitious/duplicating nature i.e. Painda Khan, Mir Jehandad Khan, Muhammad Akram Khan, Muhammad Khan Zaman Khan and Muhammad Farid Khan (all former rulers of a former Indian princely state, Amb) into the main Amb (princely state) article, which is quite detailed and already contains sufficient biographical material on the ruling house/dynasty and all of the above members. Im not sure, however, if it would be better to merge or just simply recommend these stubs for deletion? I have left comments on all the relevant talk pages. Would be grateful for help/guidance. Thanks Khani100 ( talk) 00:30, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Khani100
Hi,
I just had a look at this discussion regarding use (or lack thereof) of Indic scripts on title and it seems the outcome was not to use Indic scripts at all. My question is, shouldn't we have some sort of new policy page clarifying this? or atleast we could add some relevant information on one of the existing pages, say: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Indic)?
Best, SPat talk 21:00, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Can we re-open the discussion on why not to use INDIC scripts ? it makes no sense as the article are not complete , the articles about Tokyo , shanghai, all look fantastic, even the above cities have multiple language speaking people. can we start this discussion again ? Shrikanthv ( talk) 11:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I've added a policy note on the WP:INDIA page: here. Let me know if the language describes the consensus properly. I've put it under the heading "manual of style", so that similar future policies can also be put up there. Cheers, SPat talk 13:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I just created a new article on Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Islam. I think it is important. Jinnah has an interesting relationship with Islam. I am hoping that this turns into some like George Washington and religion or Thomas Jefferson and religion. There are some academic sources that I have come across that cite his relationship with secularism. I plan to cite them in the following days as I try to build this page. Casprings ( talk) 03:06, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Are Nambiar (Mizhavu) and Nambiar (Ambalavasi/Mizhavu) about the same thing? Should they be merged? Please comment at Talk:Nambiar (Mizhavu). D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:34, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Redirects are needed for India-Norway foreign relations and Norway-India foreign relations.
If someone were to take that section that now has been redirected (to), and make that, the new article—then they would have my support. -- Sywoofer
And if references are needed, for new text, then please feel free to ask here (or on the discussion page of the new article)—if you have ideas about any new text. -- Sywoofer ( talk) 09:43, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Indic script in article, I feel we can add Indic scripts like this! I have prepared a demo.
Demo:
User:Titodutta/sandbox/Archive_5, click on alpha ref after the first word (i.e. Swami Vivekananda in the article). I have not made any change in the main article!--
Tito Dutta
(Send me a message)
11:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
(
edit conflict)
Tito Dutta's link which has an audio is a good example of how IPA could go wrong. ʂāmiː biːbeːkānoːnɗo isn't how an Indian Bangla speaking person would pronounce the name when speaking English. I don't do IPA but it is pronounced something like Sw(ine)-Me We-Way-Ca(r)-None-Thu(s) (ignore the letters in the brackets), with no aspiration. The IPA TD has provided is how a Bangla speaking person would pronounce it while speaking in Bangla.
Yogesh Khandke (
talk)
11:47, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
As a fan of historiography, and changes in narrative over time, I reckoned we should have a cat for all the various attempts over time to encyclopedically document India's regions. So I created Category:Manuals and gazetteers of India. I made a few new stubs (Cochin, Travancore manuals), and also moved in a few books that had been in Category:Gazetteers.
Hope folks find this interesting, and can maybe lend a hand in populating the cat. It's also my goal, for all books where they are in the public domain, to add a good image of the frontispiece to each article. Thanks for your interest! MatthewVanitas ( talk) 17:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
The article Mahar has been terrible for a while, so I did just a basic cleanup (see diff) and cut it down to half-size, got most of the tags off it, and into a reasonable wiki-format. Among the issues:
So those are a few of the concerns I've tackled. There are many things that certainly need to be added to the article, and I'm sure we can find some good historical photos of Mahar communities as well. But just wanted to list this as another historicall/sociologically significant Indian community which has been hobbling along for years with a poor article, and now we're tackling at least some basic cleanup. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 15:48, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Impressed by YK's attempt at sanitising sanction-dodging, but the GoogleBooks hits for this are pretty convoluted. There's plenty of mention of "Chamar" converting to Buddhism, though as folks note above the terminology appears to go back and forth. Regardless, it seems an oversimplification to say "The Chamar did X, the Mahar did Y" if the terms are often used synonymously. Further, Yogesh is not the person to be making this observation since he's under General Sanctions, though I presume he would argue that he had absolutely no intent that people he knows off-site would quote him here. Is it simply that difficult for him to show an interest in any of the world's 150+ countries which do not fall into South Asia? MatthewVanitas ( talk) 21:13, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
![]() | This discussion is not on whether we should have a Indic script in lead. Main point of this discussion: Is Indic script removal from lead affecting article's traffic? |
It might be too early to comment on this and I am not very sure if anyone else feels the same, but, I think, removing Indic script from lead is reducing article's traffic. For example, in
Swami Vivekananda we had been getting approx 3000 visitors per day, now in last one month it is approx 2400/day.
I don't know what is the exact reason (might be is affecting those search results where people are searching in native language, I know some people who use Google Hindi, Google Bengali, I also sometimes use Google Bengali, there might be other reasons too – something similar) --
Tito Dutta
(Send me a message)
08:42, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi!
I have previously raised this discussion at
Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (events) over
here but got little response. Final response from
User:Blueboar was to take this discussion on particular projects and thus not care for others. So here i am....
While naming the articles of events it is easy and important to distinguish various similar events with location or year in the title. However the recent trend of naming the article is observed to be "Year-Location-Event", which according to me is least useful while searching articles. A disadvantageous point in prefixing Year is that we have to remember the year. If i want to read about the Mumbai terrorits attacks that happened in 2003, i have to already know the date because we have four articles
27 January 2003 Mumbai bombing,
13 March 2003 Mumbai train bombing,
28 July 2003 Mumbai bus bombing and
25 August 2003 Mumbai bombings of events that happened in 2003. Also as many years have past, i could be confused if it was actually
6 December 2002 Mumbai bus bombing that i wanted to read about. The dropping down suggestions while searching for these articles dont help as i dont know the exact date. (Similar thing happens if i want to hyperlink an article while editing.)
However if the date was suffixed, the dropdown would atleast give me options. The suffixing of the year is usually practiced for films as is in
Devdas (2002 film),
Devdas (1955 film),
Devdas (1953 Telugu film),
Devdas (1935 film),
Devdas (1936 film),
Devdas (2012 film) and
Devdas (1937 film). Parenthesis, as used for films can be used here too to avoid the awkward comma as is placed in
Singaporean general election, 2011.
Currently a discussion for moving
11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings to
2006 Mumbai train bombings is going on at
Talk:11_July_2006_Mumbai_train_bombings#Requested_move. §§
AnimeshKulkarni (
talk)
07:36, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Also we have similar problem with separate articles of awards. Though this is mostly related to films, i thought it best to raise here because of the similarity. We have such varieties in this group. List of accolades received by Priyanka Chopra, List of awards and honors received by K. Balachander, List of awards and nominations received by A. R. Rahman, List of awards conferred on Satyajit Ray, List of awards received by Lata Mangeshkar. §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 18:27, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Took a look at Category:Dalit and it appeared that most of the articles could be subcategorised. There were about 150+ articles in the cat, so I created a few new subcats (Dalit history, politics, culture, etc) and started plugging, and now it's down to about 7ish articles, and the rest cleanly subcategorised. Hope folks find this helpful, and I'm open to any further ideas on building the cat tree within Dalit. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 21:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
The "culture" and "society" cats should generally have very articles in them directly, but most articles should clearly fall into the various subcats. I moved a number of India articles from "society" into subcats, and have got "culture" from 150 or so down to 70ish. If anyone can lend a hand figuring out how to subcategorise more of the "culture" articles that would help. Some of them I'm not sure how to subcat, and some we may need to create new subcategories to hold them, but I want to do it carefully so as to be parallel to other projects. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 18:26, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I have been adding content to this article over the last few weeks. One experienced user has suggested that this article should be taken to FA status if possible, and I have said I will attempt to do that. So, I will be putting in a request for a peer review on this soon for the GA to start with. Before that however, would like to have people's comments on whether I have missed any low hanging fruits on developing this article. Am a new user, so it is likely, I have missed some things. Please advise and critique. Charminarin ( talk) 16:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
I've had a few editors come to me over concerns of the editing of Uttar Pradesh. It appears that IPs and brand new editors are making whole sale changes. Some of the changes involve removing swaths of paragraphs starting at a random point mid-word. My knowledge of the state is very limited. Could somebody take a look at the situation. Bgwhite ( talk) 21:26, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
I began an article on Soni Sori this evening, a Chhattisgarh teacher arrested on accusations of Maoist links and then allegedly tortured and sexually assulted by police. She's gotten significant coverage by The Hindu, The Times of India, etc., which makes me assume there's a lot of coverage in non-English sources as well. Would anyone more knowledgeable about India (regardless of what languages you speak) be interested in helping to expand this one? Cheers, Khazar2 ( talk) 07:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Although I'm generally in favor of more accessible leads (I've tried and failed to get all the junk removed from the standard opening line of our biographies), I've reverted some deletions of Indian names per the discussion in Archive 48. First, was there any agreement to delete the local-language name from the infobox? I see no problem with it there: there is a field set up for it, we do it everywhere else in the world, readers sometimes need to know what it is in local script, and it is tucked out of the way. Also, it makes no sense to give the transliteration of the orthography without the orthography, nor the pronunciation of a local name without the local name. I've seen articles where the English name is given a Kannada pronunciation, or vice versa, local names without any indication of which language they are in, the local language claimed to be English, strings of accented letters without any indication of what they are or what they mean, etc. There are a lot of improvements (such as at Andaman and Nicobar Islands), but maybe a bit more thought needs to go into implementing this? — kwami ( talk) 11:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I also dislike the detritus that tends to collect in the lead like seaweed at a high-tide mark, making the lead more and more illegible, but the native name of a town, state, or country in native orthography is often of interest. I've come to WP articles for that info often enough, and that's why we have that field in the info box. Do you know how difficult it is to use as a reference a map or atlas of China that doesn't include the Chinese orthography? India's not that different. If it gets abused, well, that's what we police the articles for. If it's a complex case, then we can set apart a section on naming. But the IPA is not an answer. If there are three scripts, that is generally because there are three languages, and therefore three pronunciations and therefore a need for three IAST transliterations and three IPA transcriptions. It's a mess regardless; removing the local script does little to clean it up, and IMO all that IAST and IPA does not belong in the lead or infobox either. (And I'm an IPA-pusher, not a deleter.)
IMO, the only pronunciation in the lead should be the English. In the info box, the native name should be the dominant script(s), maybe limited to two in the case of something like Hindi/Urdu, but otherwise, say, requiring individual justification on the talk page. Greater detail – spelled, transliterated, and pronounced ABC in languages XYZ – should occur in a separate 'name' section, and then only for languages which actually have something to do with the place. An exception would be stubs that do not have separate sections, though perhaps then a separate paragraph, so that a reader can skip over it all if they're not interested. Or something like that. I think we can have a presentable article without removing information that is useful to some of us. This is a work of reference, and what people sometimes need to refer to it for is a name in local script. That could be as simple as verifying that they identified a place correctly. — kwami ( talk) 19:36, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Q: Is this new discussion of local names/indic scripts/IPA for geographical locations alone? §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 21:26, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
It is unnecessary to have names written in any other script but Roman, the spelling should be that used in Indian English, and the pronunciation should be as it would be pronounced by English speakers in India. If there is a variation in local English pronunciation it should be indicated. Like for example Bengaluru ought to be the spelling and its pronunciation should be how it would be pronounced by a local at that place when he would do speaking English - local newsreaders could be a good, verifiable guide. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:41, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Krami, your position also fails to provide any mechanism to choose which local scripts to use, which was exactly the problem that triggered the last RfC. You say that if there are problems, that's why we police articles. That simply does not work in this circumstance, because there is literally no rational way to determine inclusion, especially for larger areas where there may be a dozen different local scripts in wide use. It's irritating and a waste of editors time to have to argue about whether we should include Langauge X, since its users represent 3% of the local population, but not Language Y, whose users represent 2% of the local population, but we should include Language Z, even though it's rarely used now but was widely used 50 years ago. Especially since such language data is generally not available. I also agree with others that the analogy to China is not particularly convincing due to the much wider acceptance of English (including at the official, governmental level) in India. Qwyrxian ( talk) 09:02, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
It may be called as "Other Stuff exists" or "India-related pages are not consistent with other pages of wikipedia".
I know that we have had a huge complex discussion on this and we had reached a consensus, which btw was found wrong by few especially for geographical places and was also raised at the closing admin's talk page. Leaving that aside, many have also pointed that other Indian subcontinent country projects should also have a similar discussion and find some consensus. I guess that should happen now before we rediscuss this topic. Also as this brings inconsistency through out WP, i think a bigger forum should also agree to this. §§
AnimeshKulkarni (
talk)
15:06, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
There seem to be several arguments here, some on the same side at odds with each other, and some frankly rather irrational. Here's what I'm gleaning from them.
Con:
Pro:
Tito's box is an example of the problems that come up when removing local scripts. Several of you have pointed out that this is English WP, yet the lead of that article confounds English with Bengali, and the Bengali is wrong. How many of us can spot where the wrong language is used? How many can spot the errors in the Bengali? So, even assuming we remove the Bengali script from the footnotes, how does this solve our problem? — kwami ( talk) 19:14, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Classifying the disagreement
First I think we must classify and differentiate the topics in WP:India to decide weather to use INDIC scripts or not to use in the Lead,
As i can see some people are talking about using coptics for articles over cities , places and some over famous people and some other literature topics. so here is how we can divide it and talk about it
1. People 2. Places 3. Political 4. Economic 5. Social/Culture (History inclusive) 6. Environmental 7. Legal 6. Techonlogy 8. Religious
From the above we can be sure to keep topics like Religious , Techonology , Environmental, People,( I believe Indians speek more langauge than one !! ) , Legal and Economics out of Indic script headache but topics like places , culture should have Indic scripts !! (for those who are just saying this is a English wiki , please come up with better argument than that, adding this also pushes wiki of other languages to have more article thus growing WIKI in the whole, or try to remove all foreign langauges together in wiki english e.g china , japan , greek .... )
2) Delhi has more than 3 langauge speaking how can we know this !! and do we need to add all !!! ? - Argument
Common just choose the official language choosen by the local Govt representing office !! (Indian Govt has done already the job of survey and your "mental" make up saying they speek that and this has no proof!! ) , e.g State related to Karnataka all Govt offices have 2 langauges ( English , Kannada ) and Kerla ( English, malaylam ), Punjab (English , punjabi ) . Please do not try to argue about bordering cities , go to their Govt offices and see the documents and decide (e.g Munnar , ooo they speak only tamil there eventhough it is in Kerla !! - Argument . pls go the local GOVT representaive office , you will now it !! , and the statment argueing has no backup proof other than your mental makeup!! )
3) yes its difficult to Forigen editors !! , but hey it improves and broudens thier knowing too , rather being a closed society which i believe what wiki is not !!!.
Shrikanthv ( talk) 06:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
All of the points were dealt in RFC but its time to do it again, stop taking things personnely , try to remove yourself out of the picture and see if things really help , and i now know you know it all, the cons !! ? seriously wiki has to be open for discussion any time ,not show history and shun new approach . and stop worrying about people wont help wiki , i guess same was said to aristotle before shown RFC's and told not to think about more.
It would be better we start discussion again on this matter and not shun people like what middle ages did to aristotle!! Shrikanthv ( talk) 08:25, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Some text ([File:|frameless|alt=]) lies above the image. How do we remove it? Samba1234 ( talk) 20:26, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
I've posted this a few times in the past, so adding here my running list from my User page of sources of Public Domain India images. I've suggested in the past that we have some actual WPINDIA page to list out public-domain sources to both images and older texts (gazetteers and the like), but I don't think we've started one yet.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewVanitas ( talk • contribs) 18:23, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
MatthewVanitas ( talk) 13:37, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
I've nearly finished going through 393 pages identified by my scans as having problems such as the Talk page being disconnected from the article, this is a bit different. Until recently, Nagpuri was a redirect to Sadri language. Recently an anon editor has added a few sentences about Nagpuri. My gut feel says that if nothing has really been added to the Sadri page about Nagpuri in 5 years, then at best it's a minor dialect which is best treated within the context of the Sadri page, and Nagpuri should go back to being a redirect. However it's not something I know anything about so could someone else take a look? FlagSteward ( talk) 17:38, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi WP:INDIA members. Would anyone here happen to be knowledgeable on the subject of Varma Kalai? Is this a legitimately notable concept or something more WP:FRINGE? If anyone here is familiar with it, could they stop by the page and add some info and sourcing? Thanks! SÆdon talk 01:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Please nominate an article for the next month's collaboration of the month(COTM). You can nominate it on the nominations page.
Just to remind that the current COTM is
Gateway of India. Also,
Tripura is the article which we are trying to take to GA/FA status.
Do join us in shaping these articles
BPositive
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13:33, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Dear WP India Reg the above article, it is still in the start class and I have been mostly working on it, along with some other occasional editors. For some time, some minor vandalism/dsiruption had occured and we took care of that but of late, there seems to be some sort of 'online family feud' going on between various representatives (or self-proclaimed reps) of various factions or groups of the subject's family, which is disrupting our editing process. They seem to object to some names, spellings, additions of some relations but not others etc etc--Ive left v detailed comments time and again on the talk page of the article and also warned one persistent disruptor/vandal. I have tried to assume as much as I could, good faith, on the part of this user (IP address), However, almost all of our new development is now stopped because of this anxiety. Today, the user from this same IP purporting to be from 'Grandsons of Sir Sikandar' left some further, truly bizarre comments and orders on the talk page. I have left appropriate comments and requests for advice and help in a number of places but Im afraid that this is developing now into a classic problematic, controversial article. Slowly and steadily, we were building up a good article, over time, but now I almost dread to find a new issue awaiting me herein and I dont know if its worth continuing with anymore. Your help and guidance is direly needed pl, thanks, Khani100 ( talk) 18:17, 21 April 2012 (UTC)Khani100
Another editor created Samundar (television serial). I added context to the article so that it would not be speedy-deleted, but I do not have the resources to expand it. I would be grateful if you could look at the article and improve it. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 05:39, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Could you please help me in getting the article Caste-related violence in India cleaned up and organized by adding more references and more contents ?
I would like to order the index based on the dates I would prefer a format of YYYY Village, District, State. In case of casualties, specify that along with deaths if any. The lead from the sub page would have been apt.
Almithra ( talk) 10:15, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
It was pretty bad well before Almithra took a shot at it, though I think rather than the edits he's tried we just need a general re-work of the concept. Part of the problem is it's a bunch of nearly stand-alone (in theory) articles jammed together. Much like Pakistan's rather poor (but in the past far worse) article Blasphemy law in Pakistan. Almithra has been writing some good articles on caste violence (settling into WP tone and format conventions), so this is a good time to figure out where to "hang the hat" of such articles. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 22:43, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Complaint filed here Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Tampering_by_advocates_of_Dera_Sacha_Sauda_.28Indian_religious_group.29 regarding DSS advocacy and censoring of court cases against the group and its leader, as well as general puff/honorifics at Dera Sacha Sauda, Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh, etc. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 14:37, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
I started a wiki entry around late Vice Admiral Nilakanta Krishnan. He was the younger brother of Nilakanta Mahadeva Iyer, ICS, CIE. The entry of both these brothers in the List of Iyers- is being edited. The reason cited by Sitush is "I am sorry but I reverted that edit of yours. Some of it was not in the cited source, another aspect was poorly source (see WP:Citing sources), some was undue weight, etc." This editor asked me to seek help at the India Project talk page, which is why I am posting this entry here. Anant ( talk) 05:27, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
I think the list is not a encyclopedia material, I do not understand the whole reason for listing people based on caste, which is nothing to do with thier achievments or work, Just qouating one or two famous person would have been enough , may be the whole list has to be deleted , so to remove racism or caste based bias Shrikanthv ( talk) 06:49, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
I propose for the deletion of the article, it serves no purpose in a encyclopedia , being an iyer does not have anything to do with achievments or field of work. the only thing it is trying to connect is religious beliefs with people's achievment!!! and also to bring about rascial bias Shrikanthv ( talk) 06:49, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
wooow wait these is turning out to be just like type of "intellectual " battles that Indian politians have (to get votes heyyy :) ) ,
any way back to topic
Satuatury notice : Showing 10 to 20 wrongs cannot be a reason to do one more wrong !!
2) List of Indian Mathematicians (Helps people to identify which country he belongs to , and also may help in writing article about India's contribution to Maths ) 3) List of Indian Swimmers (please do not super impose swimming with nationality , list of Indian swimmers in Indian sports supports the article ) now List of Iyers : (helps people to identify which religious faith they had for "achieving" or "working" something!!! , ) Please keep out religious beliefs and personnel attachement to beliefs, out of wiki Shrikanthv ( talk) 12:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Iyers is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Iyers until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Shrikanthv ( talk) 13:18, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Links to old articles on the Indian Express website (late '90s and early '00s) are no longer accessible under their indianexpress.com url (eg: http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pIe/ie/daily/19980508/12850934.html). And their archives don't seem to be working properly either. For now, the urls can be accessed by mapping http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pIe/ie/ to http://www.expressindia.com/ie/ (eg: http://www.expressindia.com/ie/daily/19980508/12850934.html). Last Contrarian ( talk) 11:41, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Could someone with Marathi language expertise please review Chaitanya Maharaj Deglurkar, and if possible improve it? There's almost no online coverage of him in English, but I can see some mentions of him in Marathi-language papers. Is he notable per WP:BIO? Thanks, Scopecreep ( talk) 14:27, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Sakal and Lokmat are regional Marathi language newspapers quite popular and widely read in Maharashtra. They are RS. I cant find any marathi to english online translator. But will try and give you some jist of the articles.
These are just short jists. Dont use these very things in the articles. I havent read these all links completely. Just giving you brief idea. The subject is notable for sure. And the links are RS. §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 07:08, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I have started a group AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Central List of Other Backward Classes in Rajasthan. I may be adding additional articles to it in the next few hours, should I find any more. - Sitush ( talk) 19:26, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
I just cleaned up some spam, but felt the "Economy" section (by the same author...) might be okay to keep. If someone can maybe verify / add sources and brush up the style please? -- Windharp ( talk) 08:18, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion on Talk:Siachen conflict on the issue about Casualty in Siachen conflict and reliable source for it. -- Ðℬig XЯaɣ 14:48, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi all,
A report for the collaboration of the month for April 2012 has been published on the reports page. Please have a look at it. BPositive (talk) 18:50, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi all,
The following articles have been selected for the colloboration of the month project for the month of May 2012.
Happy Collaborating! :) BPositive (talk) 18:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone have info if there is some work group working specifically on articles related to Category:Corruption_in_India and other such categories/articles? Given the fact that corruption has become one of the most important and most discussed topic, would it be a good idea to start such a focused group? Onkar 19:58, 30 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onkarr ( talk • contribs)
Hello. Can anyone help with a translation from English to Hindi, at the Reference Desk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language#poster / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language#poster.2Fhi Thank you. 184.147.123.69 ( talk) 15:59, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Can someone in the know take a look at Siddha Yoga and Siddhayoga? At the least one of the pages needs to be moved to a disambiguated title as it's very confusing to have such similar titles for different articles. I'm not sure one bit about the content in either article. — Spaceman Spiff 09:07, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
while Siddhayoga seems matching with wiki needs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrikanthv ( talk • contribs) 11:28, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello, I have started a discussion on the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard relating to some articles in the above areas and some of these might also relate to WP India; and Id be glad if you could also kindly give it a look and contribute to the discussion, thanks AsadUK200 ( talk) 17:03, 2 May 2012 (UTC)AsadUK200
All India related articles need lot of improvement especially Indian colleges and universities articles. Please see my User page to know the edits I have made. Almost all the articles in my userpage need editing. You can have a talk with me on my Talk Page.
Harsh2580
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16:15, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello All!
The TV serial related articles are extensively edited by IPs and
SPAs to update daily happenings of the shows and brag about the TRP achievements. They also vandalize by removing maintenance tags and change infobox colours just to match the serial's font/theme colour. (Eg.
Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon? is always turned pink as the show's poster is pink!) Some crazy ones also remove references! They also copy-paste material from various websites, usually official sites and various discussion forums. The articles have very less references, almost none being
reliable. The references, if at all present, are of some discussion forums. We are assuming these editors probably are PR folks of these shows. The problem doesn't stay only on these articles. Fork articles like "List of characters of XYZ", "List of Episodes of PQR", "ABC (LMN serial character)" are also created. Single show hit actors also have got their separate biography articles. These bios cant be tagged for BLP PRODs as they have some reference, usually to such discussion forum or passing mention in some RS.
Recently with help of few editors various copyright material is removed. I have also nominated various articles for AfD and boldly merged few articles. The reason for bringing this here is to bring to attention the plight of these articles. Although a separate WikiProject
Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian television exists, it is as good as dead. The AfDs so far have got little response, which is normal. But few responses that have been received compare Indian TV show articles to American ones and doubt the deletion requests.
WP:TVSHOW which speaks about the notability of shows calls them notable "if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope), or on a cable television network with a national audience." Now which show doesn't air on national TV? This thus makes 2-days old show also notable. Although most of these articles would fail
WP:GNG, bit stricter and more clearer guidelines for specific notability are needed. I could very-well take this up at
WP:Notability. But i am sure they wont understand a thing what Indian TV soaps are. Hence here.... to get views and ask for path forward. §§
AnimeshKulkarni (
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09:05, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
A concern has been raised (by Muhandes ( talk)) regarding the definition of "national institute" and whether to delete/rename the article List of National Institutes in India. Please join the discussion here --- Aravind V R ( talk) 05:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Category:Recipients of the Padma Vibhushan, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 06:24, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
I have listed many education related articles to be written in a priority basis. It is very unfortunate that these centres of excellence don't have articles in wikipedia. Please contribute to create them on a priority basis. Aravind V R ( talk) 06:45, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Aravind, Can you check out WP:INEI ? And add task to WP:INEI -- naveenpf ( talk) 23:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Before I changed it, I thought I should have a discussion on this and reach consensus so that there are no COI issues. I just saw that Indian Statistical Institute has been rated as low importance which makes no sense. It is the premier body of research and source of statistical analysis in the country. If the Indian Institute of Technology has top importance, similarly, ISI should also be given the highest importance possible. All these are the pride of India, and its remarkable to see a body like ISI be given low importance. Debastein ( talk) 10:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
The category is nominated for deletion here. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ 17:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
There seems to be an edit war going on at Dhoot - is it a Jat clan from the Punjab or a Rajasthan surname? Pam D 08:47, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Another editor created Ganbariya Rajput. Perhaps the article should be merged into or redirected to Rajput, but I don't know enough about the topic to be sure. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Another editor has created the article Biratpur. The article requires cleanup. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 11:01, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi all,
Please nominate an article for the Indian Collaboration of the Month WikiProject for the month of June 2012. BPositive (talk) 18:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Readers of this noticeboard might be interested in two new articles, Boden Professor of Sanskrit and Boden Professor of Sanskrit election, 1860. If anyone can suggest any further sources for, or improvements to, either article, I'd be grateful. Thanks, Bencherlite Talk 09:52, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello all, I came across Kalwadi at NPP, from what I have been able to gather it's a village in Junnar taluka, but I could be wrong. Could someone who knows better than me have a look and see if I am right? Cheers, -- kelapstick( bainuu) 07:32, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
This is about the article Charlemagne to the Mughals. I have mentioned my reservations on the article's talk page. This article seems totally misleading, stating that a descent from Charlemagne connected with the Mughals, starting with Shah Jahan. This article is being quoted by other websites also, to propagate this false claim. Even the Wikipedia article on Shah Jahan mentions this false descent, which is a very sad state of affairs indeed. Can anybody give enlightenment about the verifiability of this article's claim? If not verifiable, I propose removal of this article. Hrishikes ( talk) 15:28, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
The tag and assess drive is, perhaps inevitably, seeing some articles assessed on a multitude of occasions. I am beginning to see some oddities creeping in there and have no idea whether it is a consequence of the drive or a wikisoftware issue - my understanding of the category system is C-class, and low importance (!)
An example is Rajput. The talk page header currently shows it as a B/Low importance article for the Indian history project, but among its categories are the following:
The issues:
This would all appear to happen automatically, since HotCat allows me to add cats to talk pages but not remove them. I can understand why it happens automatically, but something is wrong somewhere. - Sitush ( talk) 08:03, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
This article Noida double murder case has many words without source some of which are libelous. I just removed some. Can someone clean it up. Lots of people are visiting this article because of the news, but entire article is mess with so many speculations without any reliable source. 124.123.200.18 ( talk) 20:56, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
I have raised this issue before but over several months have become increasingly concerned regarding the reliability of many Indian news sources. I have mentioned a specific instance at the reliable sources noticeboard and thought it best to notify the India-specific community. The instances relates to the Noida double murder case, raised by someone else here a few hours ago. (No link, sorry, as I really need my sleep). - Sitush ( talk) 23:59, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
The article Operation Blue Star states "Innocent Sikhs old, young and children, were mercilessly slaughtered. Women were raped by the soldiers." citing " The Gallant Defender" book by A R Darshi. Are such books allowed as references on Wikipedia? This entire book is just an exaggeration. I am a Sikh myself and greatly critical of operation bluestar but such kind of statements make others feel that all our allegations against the army are just made up lies. There should be some constraint on reliability so that crticism of operation bluestar does not look hogwash. 124.123.200.18 ( talk) 04:43, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Due to confusion persisting on the presence of English translations in articles, a more detailed consensus has been presented here, which can be interpreted as "removing scripts and all translations (including English), and replacing with IPA." I hope this clears up all the nonsense about "English Wikipedia, English translation" and "removing the scripts only if IPA is present". Secret of success 06:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
This is an iconic Bengali film, one of the first by
Satyajit Ray and its original title is in Bengali, and for which both the Bengali transliteration and its English meaning are both academic and encyclopaedic. To the best of my understanding, the discussion on WP:INB where consensus to restrict language translation to literature to IPA, which everyone quotes as consensus, was primarily about Indic language transliterations in geographic articles and biographical articles. Film titles or works of art natively titled in other languages were not discussed. In this case, I think that there is fresh need for us to consider this set of cases on its own merits. At any rate, I do not see implementing a blanket ban is meaningful though I am myself am one of those who supported the IPA. I think we need to discuss this and get consensus to retain the native language transliteration name in native language script and its English language translation for such works of art, film, books, songs, etc.
AshLin (
talk)
12:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
To be perfectly honest, I see little value in non-English scripts anywhere on the English wikipedia. They tend to be useless clutter and improperly rendered for most readers and adds value for no one. The native script is useless for someone who doesn't understand it and anyone who can read the Bengali for Pather Panchali or the Hindi for Idgah doesn't gain anything by seeing the Bengali, Hindi or Urdu version of the title. All we end up with is a bit of vanity, a lot of undetected vandalism, some edit warring and endless discussion (does anyone recall the Hindi/Urdu protracted argument on Bollywood films?). C'est my opinion. -- regentspark ( comment) 17:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I would like to state that the it is important culturally to retain that small bit of Indic language script associated with the name of the work of art such as books, films, paintings, statues etc in the lead. It provides the name as it is likely to be seen on the original work, or poster. Alongwith the English translation, it provides encyclopaedic value. The IPA tells the pronunciation but provides no information about the meaning of the name.
The use of non-Roman scripts in leads is extremely wide in other country WikiProjects on English Wikipedia. This is the usual practice in countries with non-Roman scripts for their mother tongue. In the specific case of works of art, please see:
I can understand people being disinclined from the overwhelming use of Indic scripts. However, imho we should not do away with Indic scripts in the lead unilaterally just because of the problems they present, but rather engage them and solve them in a reasoned and logical manner. I am not suggesting a blanket use of Indic scripts in the leads of all articles either but a very specific use in a very specific context - for works of art only.
The clear-cut consensus we had in the RFC was "'Using IPA to clarify pronunciation'". There were varying levels of support for various other options. However, the consensus to remove the Indic language altogether from leads was not clear cut, the closing admin had to make a judgement. That discussion did not consider the possibility that there could be genuine need for such indic script/translations or cater for any exceptions for such circumstances. Hence I feel that this is a case which has not been properly considered at that point of time and it is worthy to be taken up for consideration on its merits.
I request that this issue be voted upon and let the community decide what is to be done for this specific set of cases only. AshLin ( talk) 19:39, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
@Everyone: This issue covers variety of alternatives; indic scripts in various locations (lead, infobox, footnotes, other sections), translations, IPAs, official English titles, and all applicable for various types of articles (biographies, geo-locations, art works, etc). It is not possible to apply same rule for all as was tried by previous RfC. Hence please be very clear on what type you are commenting. §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 13:59, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey, can anyone please write IPA or IAST for कमल. §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 10:31, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Knock! Knock!! §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 13:09, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
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At Gujarat, we only say that Gujarati is official. However, at Official languages of India, we say that Hindi is coofficial. If it's not, could s.o. correct File:Hindi-Urdu as an official language.png, or let me know and I'll correct it?
thanks — kwami ( talk) 11:15, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
What's the deal with this template? Do we really need it wherever devnagari is used? For example, the template is prominently displayed in the Hindu Kush article but the actual use of the script is minor.-- regentspark ( comment) 14:47, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
This discussion is about Indic text template, my view is that non-Roman text has little use in an English language encyclopaedia. On the other hand the Indian English template is a useful template that indicates that the particular dialect is used in writing the article and so words, and spellings would be encountered that are used in Indian English, for example the article Sudheendra Kulkarni uses words like crore and it is useful to mark the article as written in the Indian English dialect. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 08:01, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
I have opened a discussion at WT:MOS that concerns, inter alia, Template:Indian English. It can be found here. - Sitush ( talk) 12:16, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Due to contentious editing at Template:American cuisine, this has resulted in the deletion of the image at Indian cuisine template. You may wish to discuss whether to keep the image or not, but someone should watch the template to see if further contentious editing at American cuisine results in spillover to your template. 70.24.251.208 ( talk) 11:31, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
I watch Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Article alerts to check PRODed articles. However it seems that the bot who lists articles there, lists only articles that have "WikiProject India" banner on them. This must be a case with all articles for all Projects. We need to find some solution for this problem. If you have some views on it, share it there. Meanwhile, these unlisted India-related articles on PROD expire on following days.
Btw, do you watch any other page for PRODs? §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 08:24, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Greetings! Here is a small update on the Social Media pilot supported by India Program. This pilot is running on two Facebook groups for Wikipedia activities: one in English (One is You can also write on Wikipedia) and one in Odia (Odia Wikipedia). Both of these are being piloted to see if we can explain the very basics of editing to new editors and to encourage them to make their first basic edits. This is done You can visit these groups to see the regular editing sessions that we are conducting there. So far, we have been able to get 30 first time editors in English and 10 in Odia - all of whom have completed a few basic tasks (like creating usernames, corrected mistakes, adding references, inter-wiki links!)
Facebook is a useful way of engaging with young users because they are more comfortable there. Here is a 19 point comprehensive guide that we've developed to illustrate the kind of language, nature of messages and way of interacting on Fb that you might find useful and can implement on your groups as well. Please note the mini-editing sessions we have devised with just 5 tasks to make the start of a new editor's Wiki journey really simple! If you need any help to try this pilot in your group please write to me (noopur@wikimedia.org). (Even if your community does not yet have a facebook page, or if the page is inactive right now, I can support you.) Happy to help! Noopur28 ( talk) 10:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
I've listed Hyderabad, India for peer review here, The comprehensive editing done through the last couple of months had Improved its standards. thus, We need input/feedback from peer reviewers to make it an absolute FAN. Thanks :)-- Omer123hussain ( talk) 15:31, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Since this is India-specific, I thought that I would check here before going to WP:RSN. Any views on the reliability of Kapoor, Subodh. The Indian Encyclopaedia: La Behmen-Maheya. Genesis Publishing Pvt Ltd. p. 4369. ? I would imagine that it is a tertiary source but cannot see any of it. - Sitush ( talk) 18:04, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Last year when IEP was going on I'd created this page on the request of the IEP folks to help students with copyright problems, but they had then decided that they had things under control and didn't need this and I forgot about it too. Anyways, as we continue to face copyvio issues within the project and many of us work with some editors who do copyvios, misguided but in good faith, the page might come in handy to explain to them with examples. cheers. — Spaceman Spiff 18:42, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi all,
A report of the previous months collaborations has been published at the reports page of the WikiProject. Please have a look at it. Any suggestions/comments are always welcomed :) BPositive (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
The Tag & Assess Drive 2012 has been a phenomenal success so far achieving around 65,000 assessments (including quality and importance) and bringing 19,000 articles into the scope of the porject. The overall theme is to achieve
Statistics of the initial and recent progress
Date & time | Total articles in the project | Articles remaining | Running total |
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4 March 2012, 0830 hrs | 95,014 | 59,837 | 3,309 |
31 May 2012, 2359 hrs | 114,071 | 0 | 84,434 |
We profusely thank all the participants involved for their active participation. The post assessment activities needs to be planned, please post suggestions. Ssriram mt ( talk) 01:26, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
We need help with the article Jayaram Padikkal - which is currently nominated for deletion but I am hopeful that it will be kept. The article does not have any biographical information about the subject - date and place of birth, date and place of death, etc. Any source would probably be in Malayalam since he was from Kerala. Can someone who speaks Malayalam look for this information, and add it to the article if found? Thanks. -- MelanieN ( talk) 20:31, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
We had arranged a photography completion on behalf of Assamese Wikipedia Community. The competition is almost successes with a result of 629 Photos and a lot of photos in Mail also which are yet to upload. We have lake of Manpower in our community. So, for importing we need help of Some bot to import those photos to commons as soon as possible. We have also lots of privious uploaded photos in our wiki. Please think about it also. This will be within the scope of WikiProject Assam and WikiProject India.
Please guide us. Can it made by a bot or something else?
Bishnu Saikia 12:06, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. I will try it once. Bishnu Saikia ( talk) 18:24, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
MOS:TIES should be clearly mentioned in article talk or somewhere in article body, in some India related articles, British English and American English are badly mixed up. You'll see the problem specially in date formats (DDMMYYYY (BrEn) and MMDDYYYY (AmEn) and some commons words like honour/honor, colour/color etc! -- Tito Dutta ✉ 13:18, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Over the past few months, I've been trying to find some Hindi voice-dubbing artists of famous actors, but I am having a hard time searching, since there is currently no Hindi dubbing database on the internet. Since this is an India-related topic on this website, Can anyone online here try to help me find these following Hindi voice artists? Here's what I want to find:
Once someone finds this artist, a certain Indian Wikipedian can make a Wikipedia page about a certain Hindi voice artist, but as long as they know a Hindi Dubbing Director, or might have already know the info about the Hindi voice actors of foreign films. Also, I am aware that some foreign films were dubbed in Hindi many years later, after their original theatrical release.
Plus, when it comes to finding these Hindi voice artists, you can add their date of birth and where they were born from as well.
I'm not Indian and I know this seems like a pretty big job, But if anyone who is interested into Indian dubbing industries and can try to take this favor, Please try leave a talk message on my talk board and see if you can do anything about it. I've asked other people who are Indian Wikipedians and that are also involved in the Dubbing Industry, but I got no info from them yet. But, please leave me a message, when anyone can. Thanks.
You can also check out this List of Indian dubbing artists as well.
-- BlueMario1016 ( talk) 16:17, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi, can any one provide the latest map image of Hyderabad, India. -- Omer123hussain ( talk) 21:19, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
I have nominated Bangalore for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. →TSU tp* 09:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
The first version of a report on the use of self-published sources is now available, in Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia reliability. Some of the self-published sources listed in the report pertain to this project.
Suggestions on the report itself (a discussion has started here), and help in remedying the use of the self-published items that relate to this project will be appreciated. History2007 ( talk) 06:20, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
This user is continuously changing assessment from WP:India to WP:Bangladesh! Creating huge trouble. -- Tito Dutta ✉ 17:15, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
The legal term "stay" appears frequently in news reports concerning the multitude of high-profile corruption etc cases. Can someone with legal knowledge please add an "India" section to Stay of proceedings (sourced, of course). I rather get the impression that either the media are sometimes misusing the term or that in its Indian sense it can be synonymous with Adjournment. Thanks. - Sitush ( talk) 00:56, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
There hasn't been any activity on the portal. I am to keep recycling the Did You Know (DYK) section with new(or old) information from the India Quiz, but I need help with the policy and possible guidelines for the News section being largely unfamiliar with the way Portals work and my knowledge of transclusion is also limited. -- Harsh Mujhse baat kijiye(Talk)( Contribs) 18:17, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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How to update the Statistics -- naveenpf ( talk) 12:25, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Hello! I will soon start working on Haryana Portal. Anyone interested? Vishal14K | Talk 07:35, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
The Tag & Assess Drive 2012 has been a phenomenal success so far achieving 8706 assessments (including quality and importance) in a span of 10 days. The overall theme is to achieve
Statistics of the initial and recent progress
Date & time | Total articles in the project | Articles remaining | Assessed on this day | Running total |
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4 March 2012, 0830 hrs | 95,014 | 60,037 | 540 | 3,309 |
10 March 2012, 0330 hrs | 95,981 | 56,596 | 606 | 8,706 |
While numbers are indicative of the progress, the co-ordinators are ensuring quality of assessment with frequent pulse checks. There has been enthusiastic participation from all the 21 participants and we profusely thank all the participants involved. The drive is still open and we encourage participants from WP India to
enroll themselves.
AshLin (
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ssriram_mt (
talk).
The Tag & Assess Drive 2012 has been a phenomenal success so far achieving 27,980 assessments (including quality and importance) in the one month period. The overall theme is to achieve
Statistics of the initial and recent progress
Date & time | Total articles in the project | Articles remaining | Assessed on this day | Running total |
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4 March 2012, 0830 hrs | 95,014 | 60,037 | 540 | 3,309 |
31 March 2012, 0300 hrs | 104,455 | 45,804 | 779 | 27,980 |
As many as 10,000 articles are brought into the scope of the project during the past one month of the project. We profusely thank all the participants involved for their active participation. The drive is still open and we encourage participants from WP India to
enroll themselves.
AshLin (
talk) and
ssriram_mt (
talk).
I have been posing information related to Dhananjaya (Gotra), using historicial refference books. Some wikipedian is deleting the information, as if he knows all about. I would like to know the reason.
Good Morning to my fellow wikipedians! If I am not wrong we were there in WikiConference India held at Mumbai in the month of November 2011. I am giving you all some trouble here. I had created a new article on Lala Hanumant Sahai which was immediately declined by User:Sitush some 2 days ago. As suggested by him on the tag I re-edited the article and submitted it again leaving a note on his User's talk page. Now he says he does not know Hindi I may ask some other reviewer. I know you are master of Hindi and English. I would request you to please review it and give your findings. A favourable response from any one of you will be appreciated. With thanks in advance I remain semper fidelis, Krantmlverma ( talk) 06:23, 18 June 2012 (UTC) Dr.'Krant'M.L.Verma (talk• Email)
Dear fellow Wikimedians, as you all know on 11th July,2012 Wikiproject India will turn 6. Both Assamase and Kannada Wikipedia has celebrated recently thier 10th and 9th Anniversary respectively. If you planning to celebrate the anniversary and needs help please feel to contact chapter@wikimedia.in -- naveenpf ( talk) 13:48, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Just wanted to inform you that we have put up a post about the India Education Pilot here. Please fell free to initiate, advance or follow the conversation on the same page. Thanks Nitika.t ( talk) 10:35, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Monuments is a global public photo contest around monuments, organized by Wikimedia chapters and groups. This year’s contest is planned for September 2012. Wikimedia India chapter is organising Wiki Loves Monuments (WLM) with India focus. You can read more about this in the following links:
The planning for the event is being kicked off with an IRC session on 21 June 2012 at 9:00pm IST (+5:30 UTC). All interested are invited to join the IRC session. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 12:31, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on at WP:AN that I am sure really relates to this particular project, although the opening post does not say so. - Sitush ( talk) 14:29, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
The article uses 1961 census data while more recent data just related to the issue is available. for example, the 2005-06 National Family Health Survey (NFHS-3). 67.177.230.154 ( talk) 16:51, 21 June 2012 (UTC)Pankaj Goyal
Can someone with knowledge of Indian English please give me some sort of definition of the term "military conflicts". I have been told that it can induce some sort of colonial cognitive bias in IE, whatever the heck that means. - Sitush ( talk) 20:54, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
A small note. The article Mysore survived its featured status review process, and continues to be a featured article. I request editors to help Bangalore retain the FA status, as it is undergoing review as well. Regards.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 04:19, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Please nominate/vote for the next month's COTM. The nominations are open and you can do the same on the
nominations page of the WikiProject.
Thanks,
BPositive
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07:13, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
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A requested move survey was started at Talk:Perth_(disambiguation)#Requested_move, which proposes to move:
Background: There was a previous requested-move survey which ran from late May to mid June. There was a great deal of controversy surrounding the closure and subsequent events, which involved a number of reverts and re-reverts which are the subject of an ongoing arbitration case. There was a move review process, which was closed with a finding that the original requested-move closure was endorsed; however, the move review process is relatively new and untried. — P.T. Aufrette ( talk) 03:18, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians from India. I am here to seek everyone's help and support to edit and develop an article that I have started at my subpage. I have completed most parts of it, but still I think it is a very important issue and can be expanded very much. It is User:Vivek Rai/Ganga Mukti Mahasammelan. Please don't worry about title. I have also included a large no. of possible references to build upon in the links section. Thanks VIVEK RAI : Friend? 10:15, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Gilgit–Baltistan#Neutrality. Ryan Vesey Review me! 15:59, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi, please cast your vote for the next month's collaborations. The nominations will close tonight and results will be declared thereafter. Here is the nominations page. Thanks, BPositive (talk) 06:29, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi all. As per the voting which took place on the nominations page, the articles selected for collaboration of the month for July 2012 are -
I hope you all will join in and help in shaping up these articles.
Happy editing, happy collaborating!
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BPositive
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18:46, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
The report for June 2012 has been published at the reports page. Please check it out. Any suggestions/feedback are welcomed. :-)
Hope to see as many of you in the collaborations for July 2012.
Thanks, BPositive (talk) 07:31, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
( Crossposted to WP:Museums, as well)) Coming from Category:Science_museums_in_India, but present elsewhere, I'm sure is a little confusion. When disambiguating between the various Science City Museums, should there be a comma before the city name? I see it both ways. I also see one instance where the city name is before "Science City" and two where it's listed after. I don't have a particular preference, but I think it should be consistent. Thoughts? I'm not watching here but am watching WP: Museums. If you respond here, please ping me there or on my talk. StarM 01:49, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Some user had removed the image of lyricist, File:Majrooh Sultanpuri (c. 1919 - 2000).jpg, which was originally taken from here, saying it belongs to another lyricist, Shakeel Badayuni, though for the time being I have placed it in the later article so it would survive, I wanted another point of view, some clarification as web images are confusing! So that the rational template could be changed and image renamed, if it really belongs to Badayuni or the change reverted. Thanks!-- Ekabhishek talk 05:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
IP 117.220.147.79 (resolving to Ludhiana) has made very extensive alterations and deletions to this article today, including ones related to her ethnicity [9]. I have no idea whether they should remain. Could someone here look it over? The IP has posting some very odd talk page messages around WP today, e.g. [10], [11], [12], [13], which rings alarm bells. - Voceditenore ( talk) 07:55, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
These caves are located om Mumbai-Pune Old highway. Nearly 59 km from Pune. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.87.42.115 ( talk) 09:38, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Please see WT:WikiProject Kolkata, where a discussion is underway on where to move/merge this inactive WikiProject to. -- 70.49.127.65 ( talk) 02:14, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Checkout the http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/geo -- naveenpf ( talk) 02:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Ravichandar! I am seeking permission to include your photo of a Horse drawn chariot Darasuram in a textbook my employer, Wiley & Sons, is publishing. Details are as follows: Title: World History: A Thematic Approach, Volumes I and II," Second Edition Author: Steven Wallech, et al Publication date: December 2012 Photo usage: interior, black and white only Rights requested: Non-exclusive, worldwide, all languages, all media (print and electronic), for the life of the edition
I see that this image is under Creative Commons, but I would like direct permission from you just to be sure. I would also like to know your preferred credit line.
I look forward to hearing from you soon!
Linda 98.228.208.116 ( talk) 08:51, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello, i am not a regular Wikipedian and although passionate about Wikipedia and India-related articles, i am busy in real life and have little time to spend here. So i am drawing the attention of fellow users to my concern here.
The user Ancienzus has been involved in shoving in a form of regionalism to articles relating to South India. In articles relation to Malayalam cinema/ Kannada cinema/ Telugu cinema, the actor has been trying to put in the first sentence of the lead that they are "part of South Indian film industry" instead of "part of Indian cinema". The concept of a South Indian film industry is a delusion. All the industries are distinct and independent and all the languages of South India are full fledged languages (not dialects). I feel strongly that since Bollywood is not described in the lead as part of "North Indian film industry" and Assamese film industry not described as being part of "East Indian film industry", such a regional psuedo-industry name should not be applied to the above mentioned articles. Moreover, the user has deceivingly removed content in Malayalam article that relates to Sanskrit.
Please do not ask me to go and post somewhere else for i do not have the time to do so. Thanks if you can look into it. Snowcream ( talk) 10:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
As i went through the history of edits, i couldn't help noticing close similarity of the user with that of the blocked user MThekkumthala, who is grouped with many other users in Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Kalarimaster. Can this be checked? Snowcream ( talk) 12:02, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
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I've run across a few clips of a small fretless lute apparently played in Himachal Pradesh (perhaps by the Gaddis?). I think I've seen some spellings like ruwana/rowana/etc., but found one single forum post somewhere (google "riwana melodyjunction" to see the forum) where someone shows a nice clear picture, description, and labels it riwana. I made a very rough stub riwana, but would like to find more data on this instrument to get the article going. Anyone have any idea? I've had similar experiences with Asian instruments where just finding the right spelling/term to GoogleBooks suddenly allowed an article to flourish. In the meantime, here's a cool YouTube clip of a singer strumming the instrument with one hand while playing drums with the other: just search "A Folk Singer, Himachal Pradesh, India". Note that I have to provide search-terms vice links since YT won't allow ELs to such non-RS sites. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 22:40, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello everyone,
I recently nominated Street children in India to be a Good Article, but it does not yet have an editor. If anyone is willing to be the editor for the nomination, that would be wonderful!
Thanks! KiaraDouds ( talk) 02:08, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Whilst preparing to set User:FlagBot loose on some India articles, I generate a lot of data that can be used for other purposes. For instance, I can scan for interwiki links, follow them, and analyse the pages on the other end. Just over 6% of WP India articles have an interwiki link to the Hindi version of Wikipedia, and over at User:FlagSteward/sandbox I've created lists of articles that could be improved with reference to the Hindi Wikipedia :
I don't know any Hindi so having generated the lists it's over to you guys! I'm keeping myself more than busy at the moment - the Flagbot data is great for catching malformed articles, things like articles without categories, and stub templates on articles that are 20kb or more in length(!) I've also been checking up on some of the population data in infoboxes - it's a pretty good rule that any population ending in ,000 is suspect, and there's a lot of them. It's also been surprising to me just how many of those population figures have been vandalised over the years - examples I've caught include Gudiyatham, Gun Carriage Factory Jabalpur, Behror and Birsinghpur. It doesn't help that we're still waiting for the full data from the 2011 census, so aside from the vandals, we've got good-faith editors adding a mix of 2011 district data and unreferenced post-2001 estimates of population. It's not worth really attacking it until the full data arrives, but it's going to be a big job when it comes. Anyway, I hope people will at least look at those lists in my sandbox - those lists of images and text represent a great source of "easy meat" for improving en.wiki, and even just checking a few interwiki links would be helpful. FlagSteward ( talk) 01:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Balwant Singh Rajoana article appears to be cut and paste but cannot confirm the source.It is about the assassin of Beant Singh(Chief Minister).It has NPOV issues .It is a current issue article as the person is in the news.Can anyone please take a look. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 14:20, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Would it be possible for those engaged in the tag and assess drive (I am one, although not signed up) to at least add an edit summary when they assess. I am seeing far too many talk page contributions that lack summaries & it is confusing, if only because that style is often indicative of someone turning up to refactor old comments etc. I am probably seeing 10 or so examples per day, from a wide range of participants. Even typing "assess" would be better than nothing. - Sitush ( talk) 23:23, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone have plans to write Denzil Smith? I found his website http://www.denzilsmith.com/film.htm - He plays Lee Kap in Ek Ajnabee WhisperToMe ( talk) 07:59, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello everyone,
Can someone please re-evaluate this list for India project? It is currently marked 'Low' though it's a Featured list candidate now...I do't believe it should be low. I may be wrong as I'm not fully aware of the criteria but it looks pretty good now (i have recently reforemed it) I am looking forward to your comments and evaluation! thanks! Merlaysamuel : Chat 11:56, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the clarification :) Merlaysamuel : Chat 21:00, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Having spent some time lately looking at the Featured List candidate List of The Doon School alumni, I began to think about India's more historic schools, some of which seem to be languishing in little stubs. It would be good if someone here is willing to look at those pages and add reliable content to them. Here is a small list (off the top of my head). Please add other historic schools to the list as well.
Fowler&fowler «Talk» 12:01, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Adding these two.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 15:02, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Are you all aware of this new article feed by Alexbot - Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/New_articles. It works by scanning new articles as per rule set in this page - User:AlexNewArtBot/India. Useful to add new articles to the WikiProject. AshLin ( talk) 03:42, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
As per the voting which happened on the nominations page, the results are as follows:
I shall be publishing the report of the March collaboration - A. P. J Abdul Kalam soon! Looking forward to some healthy collaboration for the month of April.
Happy Collaborating :) BPositive (talk) 05:33, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
The number of unassessed articles on WikiProject India currently stands at more than 18,000! Im wondering if there is an active task force or even a single member of the project that is dealing with these assessments? [1] Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 12:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
AshLin ( talk) 18:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Once that's done, we can be on our way. :) AshLin ( talk) 19:52, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
May I also request for a volunteer to coordinate this event. We would appreciate someone who is not already associated with city SIG/Language SIG/outreach or GLAM project to run this. If you are a new to this kind of responsibility and willing to volunteer, I will guide & help you & hold your hand through the process. AshLin ( talk) 18:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
I would like to take this opportunity to thank Sriram ( User:Ssriram mt) for volunteering to take on this responsibility. It is great when experienced editors stand forth and lead and I'm sure he will do a great job. Please welcome him to the team of people in charge of responsibility in WikiProject India. Sriram, you have the complete support of the community. Happy editing. AshLin ( talk) 04:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi All,
I went through the list of articles coming up as unassessed and I came across 16 articles that I have assessed and yet they are showing up in the list. I did the assessment on the 25th of March. Can someone please look this up?-- Wikishagnik ( talk) 20:08, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello all,
A report of the previous months Collaboration of the Month (COTM) has been posted at Wikipedia:INCOTM/INCOTM Reports. Now onwards, all the reports will be posted on the same page. Feel free to post your comments. Happy collaborating :) BPositive (talk) 14:28, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
There are 2 pages for listing recognised content on WP:India - [2] and [3], while the former seems to be up to date, the latter is not. I think we should delete the latter. Around The Globe सत्यमेव जयते 13:42, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Done Iv redirected Featured and good content to Recognized content.
Around The Globe
सत्यमेव जयते
07:37, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi everyone! I just wanted to follow up with your project and see if any article creations or improvements took place in regards to Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month! If so, it'd be great if you could please post your article outcomes on the..you guessed it...WWHM outcome page! Thanks everyone for all your efforts! Sarah ( talk) 20:53, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I would like to inform the community that we have one more volunteer who has agreed to coordinate Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force – User:Animeshkulkarni. We welcome Animesh to his new role! Please welcome him on the talk page. — Vensatry (Ping me) 03:06, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I request any editor who's working in the films area of the project to please have a look at Cinema of Andhra Pradesh. It seems to be a very trivial issue, but there's an editor who's quite "excited" about it. Please discuss on the talk page if necessary and contact me about it. Thanks, Lynch 7 19:53, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Dear all, This is a call for interested volunteers to help out with the English page of Wikipatrika that is going to come out by the end of April 2012. User:AshLin has kindly agreed to help out with it. User:Karthikndr has also offered to help. It would be great if we had few more volunteers who could help compile all the news related to English Wikipedians in India. Here is how the page looked in the last issue. All you have to do is list your names below and I hope AshLin can direct us where to add the news after that. Thanks! Noopur28 ( talk) 18:42, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
User:Buddhakahika, who created the page Buddhist Brahmins, has been blocked indefinitely for abusing multiple accounts ( Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Buddhakahika). I worry that since this page has largely been edited by Buddhakahika and his/her sockpuppets, that it lacks a neutral, objective perspective. I also worry that, given Buddhakahika's other efforts on Wikipedia to promote a particular religious organization (headed by Zen Acharya, who is cited in Buddhist Brahmins), the page may not be factually accurate, and may ultimately promote the position of this organization. I am not an expert in this, so I hope more expert eyes could look over the article. (I am also contacting WikiProject Buddhism.) Michitaro ( talk) 03:37, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
So, what do we call it? Please comment at Talk:Bharata_Khanda#Article_title.-- regentspark ( comment) 15:28, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
The article Ghasidas (initator of the Satnami denomination of Hinduism in parts of India, and among the Chamar) has been a nightmare of POV for years. Following some suggestions in the Edit Summaries, I've wiped the article, built up a stub based on a few sources, and we can go from there. Here are the the diffs if anyone's curious how bad it was. As an example, it used phrases like:
You get the basic idea. That version is no more, mentioning here for posterity, any scholars of discourse analysis, etc. and as a general example of the terrible articles that have lingered far too long, and this one for a relatively major figure in a significant branch of one of the world's largest religions. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 17:47, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at [[
Talk:Tirumala Venkateswara Temple]]. Pavan 01:43, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Please participate in the RFC discussion of whether Thondaiman has built the Tirumala Temple. Pavan 01:43, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
User:Yuvipanda has created an excellent tool to help editors who are assessing manually in Tag & Assess 2012. The tool is under Beta release and we request assessors to please install, use it and give him feedback. Since the post is long and includes the instructions to setup, to use & to give feedback, it has been made available as a Google document freely accessible to all.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/176bySLlr-fRcMYw-h4k-btL5x08qegY7Ipj2DQLHdQE/edit?pli=1
AshLin ( talk) 22:33, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
( edit conflict) Feedback:
-- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
On Tara (Ramayana), the bar shows class as Stub, but it is marked as GA. Please check. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:22, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
I notice that we have a species article South Asian river dolphin, and a subspecies article Indus River dolphin, but the official Indian animal, Ganges River dolphin is only a redirect... Shouldn't an article be built for the subspecies? 70.24.248.211 ( talk) 08:33, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Documentation for Assessment Bar has been created and integrated as Part 4 of the user guide :
Suggestions for improvement welcome on concerned talk page.
AshLin ( talk) 11:44, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Are being compiled here - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_India/Assessment/Tag_&_Assess_2012/Guide_-_Part_4#Improvements_planned_for_Release_2.0. AshLin ( talk) 16:17, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
There has been a recent push by a few editors to get a "WikiProject Ravidassia" going, so I dropped in to check it out. The group is showing some initial skill at formatting and some level of semi-decent sourcing. However, lots of the typical issues of overly flowery devotional prose, lengthy scriptural quotes, praise of key saints, etc.
Most troubling, my vague impression from glancing around is that Ravidassia was a sub-set of Sikhism, but extremely recently (in the last few years) broke away after Sikh extremists killed several Ravidassia. My concern is that these articles are being given a historically revisionist slant to eschew any past association with Sikhs, and to promote a view of Ravidassia which claims an independent line of religion back to medieval India.
This bears some watching, and I'm going to talk to some of the major editors about these neutrality issues and the like, but if anyone else is interested in smaller Indian religions, and feels neutral enough to tackle what I presume is also a sensitive issue on the Sikh side of the house, it would be good to ensure Wiki doesn't end up being slanted on an agenda. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 22:05, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Dear all, hello! I have recently proposed a merger of several stubs of a repetitious/duplicating nature i.e. Painda Khan, Mir Jehandad Khan, Muhammad Akram Khan, Muhammad Khan Zaman Khan and Muhammad Farid Khan (all former rulers of a former Indian princely state, Amb) into the main Amb (princely state) article, which is quite detailed and already contains sufficient biographical material on the ruling house/dynasty and all of the above members. Im not sure, however, if it would be better to merge or just simply recommend these stubs for deletion? I have left comments on all the relevant talk pages. Would be grateful for help/guidance. Thanks Khani100 ( talk) 00:30, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Khani100
Hi,
I just had a look at this discussion regarding use (or lack thereof) of Indic scripts on title and it seems the outcome was not to use Indic scripts at all. My question is, shouldn't we have some sort of new policy page clarifying this? or atleast we could add some relevant information on one of the existing pages, say: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Indic)?
Best, SPat talk 21:00, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Can we re-open the discussion on why not to use INDIC scripts ? it makes no sense as the article are not complete , the articles about Tokyo , shanghai, all look fantastic, even the above cities have multiple language speaking people. can we start this discussion again ? Shrikanthv ( talk) 11:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I've added a policy note on the WP:INDIA page: here. Let me know if the language describes the consensus properly. I've put it under the heading "manual of style", so that similar future policies can also be put up there. Cheers, SPat talk 13:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I just created a new article on Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Islam. I think it is important. Jinnah has an interesting relationship with Islam. I am hoping that this turns into some like George Washington and religion or Thomas Jefferson and religion. There are some academic sources that I have come across that cite his relationship with secularism. I plan to cite them in the following days as I try to build this page. Casprings ( talk) 03:06, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Are Nambiar (Mizhavu) and Nambiar (Ambalavasi/Mizhavu) about the same thing? Should they be merged? Please comment at Talk:Nambiar (Mizhavu). D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:34, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Redirects are needed for India-Norway foreign relations and Norway-India foreign relations.
If someone were to take that section that now has been redirected (to), and make that, the new article—then they would have my support. -- Sywoofer
And if references are needed, for new text, then please feel free to ask here (or on the discussion page of the new article)—if you have ideas about any new text. -- Sywoofer ( talk) 09:43, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Indic script in article, I feel we can add Indic scripts like this! I have prepared a demo.
Demo:
User:Titodutta/sandbox/Archive_5, click on alpha ref after the first word (i.e. Swami Vivekananda in the article). I have not made any change in the main article!--
Tito Dutta
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11:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
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edit conflict)
Tito Dutta's link which has an audio is a good example of how IPA could go wrong. ʂāmiː biːbeːkānoːnɗo isn't how an Indian Bangla speaking person would pronounce the name when speaking English. I don't do IPA but it is pronounced something like Sw(ine)-Me We-Way-Ca(r)-None-Thu(s) (ignore the letters in the brackets), with no aspiration. The IPA TD has provided is how a Bangla speaking person would pronounce it while speaking in Bangla.
Yogesh Khandke (
talk)
11:47, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
As a fan of historiography, and changes in narrative over time, I reckoned we should have a cat for all the various attempts over time to encyclopedically document India's regions. So I created Category:Manuals and gazetteers of India. I made a few new stubs (Cochin, Travancore manuals), and also moved in a few books that had been in Category:Gazetteers.
Hope folks find this interesting, and can maybe lend a hand in populating the cat. It's also my goal, for all books where they are in the public domain, to add a good image of the frontispiece to each article. Thanks for your interest! MatthewVanitas ( talk) 17:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
The article Mahar has been terrible for a while, so I did just a basic cleanup (see diff) and cut it down to half-size, got most of the tags off it, and into a reasonable wiki-format. Among the issues:
So those are a few of the concerns I've tackled. There are many things that certainly need to be added to the article, and I'm sure we can find some good historical photos of Mahar communities as well. But just wanted to list this as another historicall/sociologically significant Indian community which has been hobbling along for years with a poor article, and now we're tackling at least some basic cleanup. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 15:48, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Impressed by YK's attempt at sanitising sanction-dodging, but the GoogleBooks hits for this are pretty convoluted. There's plenty of mention of "Chamar" converting to Buddhism, though as folks note above the terminology appears to go back and forth. Regardless, it seems an oversimplification to say "The Chamar did X, the Mahar did Y" if the terms are often used synonymously. Further, Yogesh is not the person to be making this observation since he's under General Sanctions, though I presume he would argue that he had absolutely no intent that people he knows off-site would quote him here. Is it simply that difficult for him to show an interest in any of the world's 150+ countries which do not fall into South Asia? MatthewVanitas ( talk) 21:13, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
![]() | This discussion is not on whether we should have a Indic script in lead. Main point of this discussion: Is Indic script removal from lead affecting article's traffic? |
It might be too early to comment on this and I am not very sure if anyone else feels the same, but, I think, removing Indic script from lead is reducing article's traffic. For example, in
Swami Vivekananda we had been getting approx 3000 visitors per day, now in last one month it is approx 2400/day.
I don't know what is the exact reason (might be is affecting those search results where people are searching in native language, I know some people who use Google Hindi, Google Bengali, I also sometimes use Google Bengali, there might be other reasons too – something similar) --
Tito Dutta
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08:42, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi!
I have previously raised this discussion at
Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (events) over
here but got little response. Final response from
User:Blueboar was to take this discussion on particular projects and thus not care for others. So here i am....
While naming the articles of events it is easy and important to distinguish various similar events with location or year in the title. However the recent trend of naming the article is observed to be "Year-Location-Event", which according to me is least useful while searching articles. A disadvantageous point in prefixing Year is that we have to remember the year. If i want to read about the Mumbai terrorits attacks that happened in 2003, i have to already know the date because we have four articles
27 January 2003 Mumbai bombing,
13 March 2003 Mumbai train bombing,
28 July 2003 Mumbai bus bombing and
25 August 2003 Mumbai bombings of events that happened in 2003. Also as many years have past, i could be confused if it was actually
6 December 2002 Mumbai bus bombing that i wanted to read about. The dropping down suggestions while searching for these articles dont help as i dont know the exact date. (Similar thing happens if i want to hyperlink an article while editing.)
However if the date was suffixed, the dropdown would atleast give me options. The suffixing of the year is usually practiced for films as is in
Devdas (2002 film),
Devdas (1955 film),
Devdas (1953 Telugu film),
Devdas (1935 film),
Devdas (1936 film),
Devdas (2012 film) and
Devdas (1937 film). Parenthesis, as used for films can be used here too to avoid the awkward comma as is placed in
Singaporean general election, 2011.
Currently a discussion for moving
11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings to
2006 Mumbai train bombings is going on at
Talk:11_July_2006_Mumbai_train_bombings#Requested_move. §§
AnimeshKulkarni (
talk)
07:36, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Also we have similar problem with separate articles of awards. Though this is mostly related to films, i thought it best to raise here because of the similarity. We have such varieties in this group. List of accolades received by Priyanka Chopra, List of awards and honors received by K. Balachander, List of awards and nominations received by A. R. Rahman, List of awards conferred on Satyajit Ray, List of awards received by Lata Mangeshkar. §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 18:27, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Took a look at Category:Dalit and it appeared that most of the articles could be subcategorised. There were about 150+ articles in the cat, so I created a few new subcats (Dalit history, politics, culture, etc) and started plugging, and now it's down to about 7ish articles, and the rest cleanly subcategorised. Hope folks find this helpful, and I'm open to any further ideas on building the cat tree within Dalit. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 21:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
The "culture" and "society" cats should generally have very articles in them directly, but most articles should clearly fall into the various subcats. I moved a number of India articles from "society" into subcats, and have got "culture" from 150 or so down to 70ish. If anyone can lend a hand figuring out how to subcategorise more of the "culture" articles that would help. Some of them I'm not sure how to subcat, and some we may need to create new subcategories to hold them, but I want to do it carefully so as to be parallel to other projects. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 18:26, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello everyone, I have been adding content to this article over the last few weeks. One experienced user has suggested that this article should be taken to FA status if possible, and I have said I will attempt to do that. So, I will be putting in a request for a peer review on this soon for the GA to start with. Before that however, would like to have people's comments on whether I have missed any low hanging fruits on developing this article. Am a new user, so it is likely, I have missed some things. Please advise and critique. Charminarin ( talk) 16:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
I've had a few editors come to me over concerns of the editing of Uttar Pradesh. It appears that IPs and brand new editors are making whole sale changes. Some of the changes involve removing swaths of paragraphs starting at a random point mid-word. My knowledge of the state is very limited. Could somebody take a look at the situation. Bgwhite ( talk) 21:26, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
I began an article on Soni Sori this evening, a Chhattisgarh teacher arrested on accusations of Maoist links and then allegedly tortured and sexually assulted by police. She's gotten significant coverage by The Hindu, The Times of India, etc., which makes me assume there's a lot of coverage in non-English sources as well. Would anyone more knowledgeable about India (regardless of what languages you speak) be interested in helping to expand this one? Cheers, Khazar2 ( talk) 07:08, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Although I'm generally in favor of more accessible leads (I've tried and failed to get all the junk removed from the standard opening line of our biographies), I've reverted some deletions of Indian names per the discussion in Archive 48. First, was there any agreement to delete the local-language name from the infobox? I see no problem with it there: there is a field set up for it, we do it everywhere else in the world, readers sometimes need to know what it is in local script, and it is tucked out of the way. Also, it makes no sense to give the transliteration of the orthography without the orthography, nor the pronunciation of a local name without the local name. I've seen articles where the English name is given a Kannada pronunciation, or vice versa, local names without any indication of which language they are in, the local language claimed to be English, strings of accented letters without any indication of what they are or what they mean, etc. There are a lot of improvements (such as at Andaman and Nicobar Islands), but maybe a bit more thought needs to go into implementing this? — kwami ( talk) 11:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I also dislike the detritus that tends to collect in the lead like seaweed at a high-tide mark, making the lead more and more illegible, but the native name of a town, state, or country in native orthography is often of interest. I've come to WP articles for that info often enough, and that's why we have that field in the info box. Do you know how difficult it is to use as a reference a map or atlas of China that doesn't include the Chinese orthography? India's not that different. If it gets abused, well, that's what we police the articles for. If it's a complex case, then we can set apart a section on naming. But the IPA is not an answer. If there are three scripts, that is generally because there are three languages, and therefore three pronunciations and therefore a need for three IAST transliterations and three IPA transcriptions. It's a mess regardless; removing the local script does little to clean it up, and IMO all that IAST and IPA does not belong in the lead or infobox either. (And I'm an IPA-pusher, not a deleter.)
IMO, the only pronunciation in the lead should be the English. In the info box, the native name should be the dominant script(s), maybe limited to two in the case of something like Hindi/Urdu, but otherwise, say, requiring individual justification on the talk page. Greater detail – spelled, transliterated, and pronounced ABC in languages XYZ – should occur in a separate 'name' section, and then only for languages which actually have something to do with the place. An exception would be stubs that do not have separate sections, though perhaps then a separate paragraph, so that a reader can skip over it all if they're not interested. Or something like that. I think we can have a presentable article without removing information that is useful to some of us. This is a work of reference, and what people sometimes need to refer to it for is a name in local script. That could be as simple as verifying that they identified a place correctly. — kwami ( talk) 19:36, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Q: Is this new discussion of local names/indic scripts/IPA for geographical locations alone? §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 21:26, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
It is unnecessary to have names written in any other script but Roman, the spelling should be that used in Indian English, and the pronunciation should be as it would be pronounced by English speakers in India. If there is a variation in local English pronunciation it should be indicated. Like for example Bengaluru ought to be the spelling and its pronunciation should be how it would be pronounced by a local at that place when he would do speaking English - local newsreaders could be a good, verifiable guide. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:41, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Krami, your position also fails to provide any mechanism to choose which local scripts to use, which was exactly the problem that triggered the last RfC. You say that if there are problems, that's why we police articles. That simply does not work in this circumstance, because there is literally no rational way to determine inclusion, especially for larger areas where there may be a dozen different local scripts in wide use. It's irritating and a waste of editors time to have to argue about whether we should include Langauge X, since its users represent 3% of the local population, but not Language Y, whose users represent 2% of the local population, but we should include Language Z, even though it's rarely used now but was widely used 50 years ago. Especially since such language data is generally not available. I also agree with others that the analogy to China is not particularly convincing due to the much wider acceptance of English (including at the official, governmental level) in India. Qwyrxian ( talk) 09:02, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
It may be called as "Other Stuff exists" or "India-related pages are not consistent with other pages of wikipedia".
I know that we have had a huge complex discussion on this and we had reached a consensus, which btw was found wrong by few especially for geographical places and was also raised at the closing admin's talk page. Leaving that aside, many have also pointed that other Indian subcontinent country projects should also have a similar discussion and find some consensus. I guess that should happen now before we rediscuss this topic. Also as this brings inconsistency through out WP, i think a bigger forum should also agree to this. §§
AnimeshKulkarni (
talk)
15:06, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
There seem to be several arguments here, some on the same side at odds with each other, and some frankly rather irrational. Here's what I'm gleaning from them.
Con:
Pro:
Tito's box is an example of the problems that come up when removing local scripts. Several of you have pointed out that this is English WP, yet the lead of that article confounds English with Bengali, and the Bengali is wrong. How many of us can spot where the wrong language is used? How many can spot the errors in the Bengali? So, even assuming we remove the Bengali script from the footnotes, how does this solve our problem? — kwami ( talk) 19:14, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
Classifying the disagreement
First I think we must classify and differentiate the topics in WP:India to decide weather to use INDIC scripts or not to use in the Lead,
As i can see some people are talking about using coptics for articles over cities , places and some over famous people and some other literature topics. so here is how we can divide it and talk about it
1. People 2. Places 3. Political 4. Economic 5. Social/Culture (History inclusive) 6. Environmental 7. Legal 6. Techonlogy 8. Religious
From the above we can be sure to keep topics like Religious , Techonology , Environmental, People,( I believe Indians speek more langauge than one !! ) , Legal and Economics out of Indic script headache but topics like places , culture should have Indic scripts !! (for those who are just saying this is a English wiki , please come up with better argument than that, adding this also pushes wiki of other languages to have more article thus growing WIKI in the whole, or try to remove all foreign langauges together in wiki english e.g china , japan , greek .... )
2) Delhi has more than 3 langauge speaking how can we know this !! and do we need to add all !!! ? - Argument
Common just choose the official language choosen by the local Govt representing office !! (Indian Govt has done already the job of survey and your "mental" make up saying they speek that and this has no proof!! ) , e.g State related to Karnataka all Govt offices have 2 langauges ( English , Kannada ) and Kerla ( English, malaylam ), Punjab (English , punjabi ) . Please do not try to argue about bordering cities , go to their Govt offices and see the documents and decide (e.g Munnar , ooo they speak only tamil there eventhough it is in Kerla !! - Argument . pls go the local GOVT representaive office , you will now it !! , and the statment argueing has no backup proof other than your mental makeup!! )
3) yes its difficult to Forigen editors !! , but hey it improves and broudens thier knowing too , rather being a closed society which i believe what wiki is not !!!.
Shrikanthv ( talk) 06:19, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
All of the points were dealt in RFC but its time to do it again, stop taking things personnely , try to remove yourself out of the picture and see if things really help , and i now know you know it all, the cons !! ? seriously wiki has to be open for discussion any time ,not show history and shun new approach . and stop worrying about people wont help wiki , i guess same was said to aristotle before shown RFC's and told not to think about more.
It would be better we start discussion again on this matter and not shun people like what middle ages did to aristotle!! Shrikanthv ( talk) 08:25, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Some text ([File:|frameless|alt=]) lies above the image. How do we remove it? Samba1234 ( talk) 20:26, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
I've posted this a few times in the past, so adding here my running list from my User page of sources of Public Domain India images. I've suggested in the past that we have some actual WPINDIA page to list out public-domain sources to both images and older texts (gazetteers and the like), but I don't think we've started one yet.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewVanitas ( talk • contribs) 18:23, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
MatthewVanitas ( talk) 13:37, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
I've nearly finished going through 393 pages identified by my scans as having problems such as the Talk page being disconnected from the article, this is a bit different. Until recently, Nagpuri was a redirect to Sadri language. Recently an anon editor has added a few sentences about Nagpuri. My gut feel says that if nothing has really been added to the Sadri page about Nagpuri in 5 years, then at best it's a minor dialect which is best treated within the context of the Sadri page, and Nagpuri should go back to being a redirect. However it's not something I know anything about so could someone else take a look? FlagSteward ( talk) 17:38, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi WP:INDIA members. Would anyone here happen to be knowledgeable on the subject of Varma Kalai? Is this a legitimately notable concept or something more WP:FRINGE? If anyone here is familiar with it, could they stop by the page and add some info and sourcing? Thanks! SÆdon talk 01:14, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Please nominate an article for the next month's collaboration of the month(COTM). You can nominate it on the nominations page.
Just to remind that the current COTM is
Gateway of India. Also,
Tripura is the article which we are trying to take to GA/FA status.
Do join us in shaping these articles
BPositive
(talk)
13:33, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Dear WP India Reg the above article, it is still in the start class and I have been mostly working on it, along with some other occasional editors. For some time, some minor vandalism/dsiruption had occured and we took care of that but of late, there seems to be some sort of 'online family feud' going on between various representatives (or self-proclaimed reps) of various factions or groups of the subject's family, which is disrupting our editing process. They seem to object to some names, spellings, additions of some relations but not others etc etc--Ive left v detailed comments time and again on the talk page of the article and also warned one persistent disruptor/vandal. I have tried to assume as much as I could, good faith, on the part of this user (IP address), However, almost all of our new development is now stopped because of this anxiety. Today, the user from this same IP purporting to be from 'Grandsons of Sir Sikandar' left some further, truly bizarre comments and orders on the talk page. I have left appropriate comments and requests for advice and help in a number of places but Im afraid that this is developing now into a classic problematic, controversial article. Slowly and steadily, we were building up a good article, over time, but now I almost dread to find a new issue awaiting me herein and I dont know if its worth continuing with anymore. Your help and guidance is direly needed pl, thanks, Khani100 ( talk) 18:17, 21 April 2012 (UTC)Khani100
Another editor created Samundar (television serial). I added context to the article so that it would not be speedy-deleted, but I do not have the resources to expand it. I would be grateful if you could look at the article and improve it. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 05:39, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Could you please help me in getting the article Caste-related violence in India cleaned up and organized by adding more references and more contents ?
I would like to order the index based on the dates I would prefer a format of YYYY Village, District, State. In case of casualties, specify that along with deaths if any. The lead from the sub page would have been apt.
Almithra ( talk) 10:15, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
It was pretty bad well before Almithra took a shot at it, though I think rather than the edits he's tried we just need a general re-work of the concept. Part of the problem is it's a bunch of nearly stand-alone (in theory) articles jammed together. Much like Pakistan's rather poor (but in the past far worse) article Blasphemy law in Pakistan. Almithra has been writing some good articles on caste violence (settling into WP tone and format conventions), so this is a good time to figure out where to "hang the hat" of such articles. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 22:43, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Complaint filed here Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Tampering_by_advocates_of_Dera_Sacha_Sauda_.28Indian_religious_group.29 regarding DSS advocacy and censoring of court cases against the group and its leader, as well as general puff/honorifics at Dera Sacha Sauda, Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh, etc. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 14:37, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
I started a wiki entry around late Vice Admiral Nilakanta Krishnan. He was the younger brother of Nilakanta Mahadeva Iyer, ICS, CIE. The entry of both these brothers in the List of Iyers- is being edited. The reason cited by Sitush is "I am sorry but I reverted that edit of yours. Some of it was not in the cited source, another aspect was poorly source (see WP:Citing sources), some was undue weight, etc." This editor asked me to seek help at the India Project talk page, which is why I am posting this entry here. Anant ( talk) 05:27, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
I think the list is not a encyclopedia material, I do not understand the whole reason for listing people based on caste, which is nothing to do with thier achievments or work, Just qouating one or two famous person would have been enough , may be the whole list has to be deleted , so to remove racism or caste based bias Shrikanthv ( talk) 06:49, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
I propose for the deletion of the article, it serves no purpose in a encyclopedia , being an iyer does not have anything to do with achievments or field of work. the only thing it is trying to connect is religious beliefs with people's achievment!!! and also to bring about rascial bias Shrikanthv ( talk) 06:49, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
wooow wait these is turning out to be just like type of "intellectual " battles that Indian politians have (to get votes heyyy :) ) ,
any way back to topic
Satuatury notice : Showing 10 to 20 wrongs cannot be a reason to do one more wrong !!
2) List of Indian Mathematicians (Helps people to identify which country he belongs to , and also may help in writing article about India's contribution to Maths ) 3) List of Indian Swimmers (please do not super impose swimming with nationality , list of Indian swimmers in Indian sports supports the article ) now List of Iyers : (helps people to identify which religious faith they had for "achieving" or "working" something!!! , ) Please keep out religious beliefs and personnel attachement to beliefs, out of wiki Shrikanthv ( talk) 12:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Iyers is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Iyers until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Shrikanthv ( talk) 13:18, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Links to old articles on the Indian Express website (late '90s and early '00s) are no longer accessible under their indianexpress.com url (eg: http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pIe/ie/daily/19980508/12850934.html). And their archives don't seem to be working properly either. For now, the urls can be accessed by mapping http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pIe/ie/ to http://www.expressindia.com/ie/ (eg: http://www.expressindia.com/ie/daily/19980508/12850934.html). Last Contrarian ( talk) 11:41, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Could someone with Marathi language expertise please review Chaitanya Maharaj Deglurkar, and if possible improve it? There's almost no online coverage of him in English, but I can see some mentions of him in Marathi-language papers. Is he notable per WP:BIO? Thanks, Scopecreep ( talk) 14:27, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Sakal and Lokmat are regional Marathi language newspapers quite popular and widely read in Maharashtra. They are RS. I cant find any marathi to english online translator. But will try and give you some jist of the articles.
These are just short jists. Dont use these very things in the articles. I havent read these all links completely. Just giving you brief idea. The subject is notable for sure. And the links are RS. §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 07:08, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I have started a group AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Central List of Other Backward Classes in Rajasthan. I may be adding additional articles to it in the next few hours, should I find any more. - Sitush ( talk) 19:26, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
I just cleaned up some spam, but felt the "Economy" section (by the same author...) might be okay to keep. If someone can maybe verify / add sources and brush up the style please? -- Windharp ( talk) 08:18, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion on Talk:Siachen conflict on the issue about Casualty in Siachen conflict and reliable source for it. -- Ðℬig XЯaɣ 14:48, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi all,
A report for the collaboration of the month for April 2012 has been published on the reports page. Please have a look at it. BPositive (talk) 18:50, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi all,
The following articles have been selected for the colloboration of the month project for the month of May 2012.
Happy Collaborating! :) BPositive (talk) 18:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone have info if there is some work group working specifically on articles related to Category:Corruption_in_India and other such categories/articles? Given the fact that corruption has become one of the most important and most discussed topic, would it be a good idea to start such a focused group? Onkar 19:58, 30 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onkarr ( talk • contribs)
Hello. Can anyone help with a translation from English to Hindi, at the Reference Desk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language#poster / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language#poster.2Fhi Thank you. 184.147.123.69 ( talk) 15:59, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Can someone in the know take a look at Siddha Yoga and Siddhayoga? At the least one of the pages needs to be moved to a disambiguated title as it's very confusing to have such similar titles for different articles. I'm not sure one bit about the content in either article. — Spaceman Spiff 09:07, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
while Siddhayoga seems matching with wiki needs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrikanthv ( talk • contribs) 11:28, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello, I have started a discussion on the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard relating to some articles in the above areas and some of these might also relate to WP India; and Id be glad if you could also kindly give it a look and contribute to the discussion, thanks AsadUK200 ( talk) 17:03, 2 May 2012 (UTC)AsadUK200
All India related articles need lot of improvement especially Indian colleges and universities articles. Please see my User page to know the edits I have made. Almost all the articles in my userpage need editing. You can have a talk with me on my Talk Page.
Harsh2580
(talk)
16:15, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello All!
The TV serial related articles are extensively edited by IPs and
SPAs to update daily happenings of the shows and brag about the TRP achievements. They also vandalize by removing maintenance tags and change infobox colours just to match the serial's font/theme colour. (Eg.
Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon? is always turned pink as the show's poster is pink!) Some crazy ones also remove references! They also copy-paste material from various websites, usually official sites and various discussion forums. The articles have very less references, almost none being
reliable. The references, if at all present, are of some discussion forums. We are assuming these editors probably are PR folks of these shows. The problem doesn't stay only on these articles. Fork articles like "List of characters of XYZ", "List of Episodes of PQR", "ABC (LMN serial character)" are also created. Single show hit actors also have got their separate biography articles. These bios cant be tagged for BLP PRODs as they have some reference, usually to such discussion forum or passing mention in some RS.
Recently with help of few editors various copyright material is removed. I have also nominated various articles for AfD and boldly merged few articles. The reason for bringing this here is to bring to attention the plight of these articles. Although a separate WikiProject
Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian television exists, it is as good as dead. The AfDs so far have got little response, which is normal. But few responses that have been received compare Indian TV show articles to American ones and doubt the deletion requests.
WP:TVSHOW which speaks about the notability of shows calls them notable "if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope), or on a cable television network with a national audience." Now which show doesn't air on national TV? This thus makes 2-days old show also notable. Although most of these articles would fail
WP:GNG, bit stricter and more clearer guidelines for specific notability are needed. I could very-well take this up at
WP:Notability. But i am sure they wont understand a thing what Indian TV soaps are. Hence here.... to get views and ask for path forward. §§
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A concern has been raised (by Muhandes ( talk)) regarding the definition of "national institute" and whether to delete/rename the article List of National Institutes in India. Please join the discussion here --- Aravind V R ( talk) 05:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Category:Recipients of the Padma Vibhushan, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 06:24, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
I have listed many education related articles to be written in a priority basis. It is very unfortunate that these centres of excellence don't have articles in wikipedia. Please contribute to create them on a priority basis. Aravind V R ( talk) 06:45, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Aravind, Can you check out WP:INEI ? And add task to WP:INEI -- naveenpf ( talk) 23:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Before I changed it, I thought I should have a discussion on this and reach consensus so that there are no COI issues. I just saw that Indian Statistical Institute has been rated as low importance which makes no sense. It is the premier body of research and source of statistical analysis in the country. If the Indian Institute of Technology has top importance, similarly, ISI should also be given the highest importance possible. All these are the pride of India, and its remarkable to see a body like ISI be given low importance. Debastein ( talk) 10:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
The category is nominated for deletion here. -- ɑηsuмaη ʈ ᶏ ɭ Ϟ 17:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
There seems to be an edit war going on at Dhoot - is it a Jat clan from the Punjab or a Rajasthan surname? Pam D 08:47, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Another editor created Ganbariya Rajput. Perhaps the article should be merged into or redirected to Rajput, but I don't know enough about the topic to be sure. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Another editor has created the article Biratpur. The article requires cleanup. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 11:01, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi all,
Please nominate an article for the Indian Collaboration of the Month WikiProject for the month of June 2012. BPositive (talk) 18:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Readers of this noticeboard might be interested in two new articles, Boden Professor of Sanskrit and Boden Professor of Sanskrit election, 1860. If anyone can suggest any further sources for, or improvements to, either article, I'd be grateful. Thanks, Bencherlite Talk 09:52, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello all, I came across Kalwadi at NPP, from what I have been able to gather it's a village in Junnar taluka, but I could be wrong. Could someone who knows better than me have a look and see if I am right? Cheers, -- kelapstick( bainuu) 07:32, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
This is about the article Charlemagne to the Mughals. I have mentioned my reservations on the article's talk page. This article seems totally misleading, stating that a descent from Charlemagne connected with the Mughals, starting with Shah Jahan. This article is being quoted by other websites also, to propagate this false claim. Even the Wikipedia article on Shah Jahan mentions this false descent, which is a very sad state of affairs indeed. Can anybody give enlightenment about the verifiability of this article's claim? If not verifiable, I propose removal of this article. Hrishikes ( talk) 15:28, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
The tag and assess drive is, perhaps inevitably, seeing some articles assessed on a multitude of occasions. I am beginning to see some oddities creeping in there and have no idea whether it is a consequence of the drive or a wikisoftware issue - my understanding of the category system is C-class, and low importance (!)
An example is Rajput. The talk page header currently shows it as a B/Low importance article for the Indian history project, but among its categories are the following:
The issues:
This would all appear to happen automatically, since HotCat allows me to add cats to talk pages but not remove them. I can understand why it happens automatically, but something is wrong somewhere. - Sitush ( talk) 08:03, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
This article Noida double murder case has many words without source some of which are libelous. I just removed some. Can someone clean it up. Lots of people are visiting this article because of the news, but entire article is mess with so many speculations without any reliable source. 124.123.200.18 ( talk) 20:56, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
I have raised this issue before but over several months have become increasingly concerned regarding the reliability of many Indian news sources. I have mentioned a specific instance at the reliable sources noticeboard and thought it best to notify the India-specific community. The instances relates to the Noida double murder case, raised by someone else here a few hours ago. (No link, sorry, as I really need my sleep). - Sitush ( talk) 23:59, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
The article Operation Blue Star states "Innocent Sikhs old, young and children, were mercilessly slaughtered. Women were raped by the soldiers." citing " The Gallant Defender" book by A R Darshi. Are such books allowed as references on Wikipedia? This entire book is just an exaggeration. I am a Sikh myself and greatly critical of operation bluestar but such kind of statements make others feel that all our allegations against the army are just made up lies. There should be some constraint on reliability so that crticism of operation bluestar does not look hogwash. 124.123.200.18 ( talk) 04:43, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Due to confusion persisting on the presence of English translations in articles, a more detailed consensus has been presented here, which can be interpreted as "removing scripts and all translations (including English), and replacing with IPA." I hope this clears up all the nonsense about "English Wikipedia, English translation" and "removing the scripts only if IPA is present". Secret of success 06:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
This is an iconic Bengali film, one of the first by
Satyajit Ray and its original title is in Bengali, and for which both the Bengali transliteration and its English meaning are both academic and encyclopaedic. To the best of my understanding, the discussion on WP:INB where consensus to restrict language translation to literature to IPA, which everyone quotes as consensus, was primarily about Indic language transliterations in geographic articles and biographical articles. Film titles or works of art natively titled in other languages were not discussed. In this case, I think that there is fresh need for us to consider this set of cases on its own merits. At any rate, I do not see implementing a blanket ban is meaningful though I am myself am one of those who supported the IPA. I think we need to discuss this and get consensus to retain the native language transliteration name in native language script and its English language translation for such works of art, film, books, songs, etc.
AshLin (
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12:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
To be perfectly honest, I see little value in non-English scripts anywhere on the English wikipedia. They tend to be useless clutter and improperly rendered for most readers and adds value for no one. The native script is useless for someone who doesn't understand it and anyone who can read the Bengali for Pather Panchali or the Hindi for Idgah doesn't gain anything by seeing the Bengali, Hindi or Urdu version of the title. All we end up with is a bit of vanity, a lot of undetected vandalism, some edit warring and endless discussion (does anyone recall the Hindi/Urdu protracted argument on Bollywood films?). C'est my opinion. -- regentspark ( comment) 17:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I would like to state that the it is important culturally to retain that small bit of Indic language script associated with the name of the work of art such as books, films, paintings, statues etc in the lead. It provides the name as it is likely to be seen on the original work, or poster. Alongwith the English translation, it provides encyclopaedic value. The IPA tells the pronunciation but provides no information about the meaning of the name.
The use of non-Roman scripts in leads is extremely wide in other country WikiProjects on English Wikipedia. This is the usual practice in countries with non-Roman scripts for their mother tongue. In the specific case of works of art, please see:
I can understand people being disinclined from the overwhelming use of Indic scripts. However, imho we should not do away with Indic scripts in the lead unilaterally just because of the problems they present, but rather engage them and solve them in a reasoned and logical manner. I am not suggesting a blanket use of Indic scripts in the leads of all articles either but a very specific use in a very specific context - for works of art only.
The clear-cut consensus we had in the RFC was "'Using IPA to clarify pronunciation'". There were varying levels of support for various other options. However, the consensus to remove the Indic language altogether from leads was not clear cut, the closing admin had to make a judgement. That discussion did not consider the possibility that there could be genuine need for such indic script/translations or cater for any exceptions for such circumstances. Hence I feel that this is a case which has not been properly considered at that point of time and it is worthy to be taken up for consideration on its merits.
I request that this issue be voted upon and let the community decide what is to be done for this specific set of cases only. AshLin ( talk) 19:39, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
@Everyone: This issue covers variety of alternatives; indic scripts in various locations (lead, infobox, footnotes, other sections), translations, IPAs, official English titles, and all applicable for various types of articles (biographies, geo-locations, art works, etc). It is not possible to apply same rule for all as was tried by previous RfC. Hence please be very clear on what type you are commenting. §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 13:59, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey, can anyone please write IPA or IAST for कमल. §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 10:31, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Knock! Knock!! §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 13:09, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
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At Gujarat, we only say that Gujarati is official. However, at Official languages of India, we say that Hindi is coofficial. If it's not, could s.o. correct File:Hindi-Urdu as an official language.png, or let me know and I'll correct it?
thanks — kwami ( talk) 11:15, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
What's the deal with this template? Do we really need it wherever devnagari is used? For example, the template is prominently displayed in the Hindu Kush article but the actual use of the script is minor.-- regentspark ( comment) 14:47, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
This discussion is about Indic text template, my view is that non-Roman text has little use in an English language encyclopaedia. On the other hand the Indian English template is a useful template that indicates that the particular dialect is used in writing the article and so words, and spellings would be encountered that are used in Indian English, for example the article Sudheendra Kulkarni uses words like crore and it is useful to mark the article as written in the Indian English dialect. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 08:01, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
I have opened a discussion at WT:MOS that concerns, inter alia, Template:Indian English. It can be found here. - Sitush ( talk) 12:16, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Due to contentious editing at Template:American cuisine, this has resulted in the deletion of the image at Indian cuisine template. You may wish to discuss whether to keep the image or not, but someone should watch the template to see if further contentious editing at American cuisine results in spillover to your template. 70.24.251.208 ( talk) 11:31, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
I watch Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Article alerts to check PRODed articles. However it seems that the bot who lists articles there, lists only articles that have "WikiProject India" banner on them. This must be a case with all articles for all Projects. We need to find some solution for this problem. If you have some views on it, share it there. Meanwhile, these unlisted India-related articles on PROD expire on following days.
Btw, do you watch any other page for PRODs? §§ AnimeshKulkarni ( talk) 08:24, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Greetings! Here is a small update on the Social Media pilot supported by India Program. This pilot is running on two Facebook groups for Wikipedia activities: one in English (One is You can also write on Wikipedia) and one in Odia (Odia Wikipedia). Both of these are being piloted to see if we can explain the very basics of editing to new editors and to encourage them to make their first basic edits. This is done You can visit these groups to see the regular editing sessions that we are conducting there. So far, we have been able to get 30 first time editors in English and 10 in Odia - all of whom have completed a few basic tasks (like creating usernames, corrected mistakes, adding references, inter-wiki links!)
Facebook is a useful way of engaging with young users because they are more comfortable there. Here is a 19 point comprehensive guide that we've developed to illustrate the kind of language, nature of messages and way of interacting on Fb that you might find useful and can implement on your groups as well. Please note the mini-editing sessions we have devised with just 5 tasks to make the start of a new editor's Wiki journey really simple! If you need any help to try this pilot in your group please write to me (noopur@wikimedia.org). (Even if your community does not yet have a facebook page, or if the page is inactive right now, I can support you.) Happy to help! Noopur28 ( talk) 10:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
I've listed Hyderabad, India for peer review here, The comprehensive editing done through the last couple of months had Improved its standards. thus, We need input/feedback from peer reviewers to make it an absolute FAN. Thanks :)-- Omer123hussain ( talk) 15:31, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Since this is India-specific, I thought that I would check here before going to WP:RSN. Any views on the reliability of Kapoor, Subodh. The Indian Encyclopaedia: La Behmen-Maheya. Genesis Publishing Pvt Ltd. p. 4369. ? I would imagine that it is a tertiary source but cannot see any of it. - Sitush ( talk) 18:04, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Last year when IEP was going on I'd created this page on the request of the IEP folks to help students with copyright problems, but they had then decided that they had things under control and didn't need this and I forgot about it too. Anyways, as we continue to face copyvio issues within the project and many of us work with some editors who do copyvios, misguided but in good faith, the page might come in handy to explain to them with examples. cheers. — Spaceman Spiff 18:42, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi all,
A report of the previous months collaborations has been published at the reports page of the WikiProject. Please have a look at it. Any suggestions/comments are always welcomed :) BPositive (talk) 18:52, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
The Tag & Assess Drive 2012 has been a phenomenal success so far achieving around 65,000 assessments (including quality and importance) and bringing 19,000 articles into the scope of the porject. The overall theme is to achieve
Statistics of the initial and recent progress
Date & time | Total articles in the project | Articles remaining | Running total |
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4 March 2012, 0830 hrs | 95,014 | 59,837 | 3,309 |
31 May 2012, 2359 hrs | 114,071 | 0 | 84,434 |
We profusely thank all the participants involved for their active participation. The post assessment activities needs to be planned, please post suggestions. Ssriram mt ( talk) 01:26, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
We need help with the article Jayaram Padikkal - which is currently nominated for deletion but I am hopeful that it will be kept. The article does not have any biographical information about the subject - date and place of birth, date and place of death, etc. Any source would probably be in Malayalam since he was from Kerala. Can someone who speaks Malayalam look for this information, and add it to the article if found? Thanks. -- MelanieN ( talk) 20:31, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
We had arranged a photography completion on behalf of Assamese Wikipedia Community. The competition is almost successes with a result of 629 Photos and a lot of photos in Mail also which are yet to upload. We have lake of Manpower in our community. So, for importing we need help of Some bot to import those photos to commons as soon as possible. We have also lots of privious uploaded photos in our wiki. Please think about it also. This will be within the scope of WikiProject Assam and WikiProject India.
Please guide us. Can it made by a bot or something else?
Bishnu Saikia 12:06, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. I will try it once. Bishnu Saikia ( talk) 18:24, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
MOS:TIES should be clearly mentioned in article talk or somewhere in article body, in some India related articles, British English and American English are badly mixed up. You'll see the problem specially in date formats (DDMMYYYY (BrEn) and MMDDYYYY (AmEn) and some commons words like honour/honor, colour/color etc! -- Tito Dutta ✉ 13:18, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Over the past few months, I've been trying to find some Hindi voice-dubbing artists of famous actors, but I am having a hard time searching, since there is currently no Hindi dubbing database on the internet. Since this is an India-related topic on this website, Can anyone online here try to help me find these following Hindi voice artists? Here's what I want to find:
Once someone finds this artist, a certain Indian Wikipedian can make a Wikipedia page about a certain Hindi voice artist, but as long as they know a Hindi Dubbing Director, or might have already know the info about the Hindi voice actors of foreign films. Also, I am aware that some foreign films were dubbed in Hindi many years later, after their original theatrical release.
Plus, when it comes to finding these Hindi voice artists, you can add their date of birth and where they were born from as well.
I'm not Indian and I know this seems like a pretty big job, But if anyone who is interested into Indian dubbing industries and can try to take this favor, Please try leave a talk message on my talk board and see if you can do anything about it. I've asked other people who are Indian Wikipedians and that are also involved in the Dubbing Industry, but I got no info from them yet. But, please leave me a message, when anyone can. Thanks.
You can also check out this List of Indian dubbing artists as well.
-- BlueMario1016 ( talk) 16:17, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi, can any one provide the latest map image of Hyderabad, India. -- Omer123hussain ( talk) 21:19, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
I have nominated Bangalore for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. →TSU tp* 09:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
The first version of a report on the use of self-published sources is now available, in Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia reliability. Some of the self-published sources listed in the report pertain to this project.
Suggestions on the report itself (a discussion has started here), and help in remedying the use of the self-published items that relate to this project will be appreciated. History2007 ( talk) 06:20, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
This user is continuously changing assessment from WP:India to WP:Bangladesh! Creating huge trouble. -- Tito Dutta ✉ 17:15, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
The legal term "stay" appears frequently in news reports concerning the multitude of high-profile corruption etc cases. Can someone with legal knowledge please add an "India" section to Stay of proceedings (sourced, of course). I rather get the impression that either the media are sometimes misusing the term or that in its Indian sense it can be synonymous with Adjournment. Thanks. - Sitush ( talk) 00:56, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
There hasn't been any activity on the portal. I am to keep recycling the Did You Know (DYK) section with new(or old) information from the India Quiz, but I need help with the policy and possible guidelines for the News section being largely unfamiliar with the way Portals work and my knowledge of transclusion is also limited. -- Harsh Mujhse baat kijiye(Talk)( Contribs) 18:17, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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How to update the Statistics -- naveenpf ( talk) 12:25, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Hello! I will soon start working on Haryana Portal. Anyone interested? Vishal14K | Talk 07:35, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
The Tag & Assess Drive 2012 has been a phenomenal success so far achieving 8706 assessments (including quality and importance) in a span of 10 days. The overall theme is to achieve
Statistics of the initial and recent progress
Date & time | Total articles in the project | Articles remaining | Assessed on this day | Running total |
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4 March 2012, 0830 hrs | 95,014 | 60,037 | 540 | 3,309 |
10 March 2012, 0330 hrs | 95,981 | 56,596 | 606 | 8,706 |
While numbers are indicative of the progress, the co-ordinators are ensuring quality of assessment with frequent pulse checks. There has been enthusiastic participation from all the 21 participants and we profusely thank all the participants involved. The drive is still open and we encourage participants from WP India to
enroll themselves.
AshLin (
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The Tag & Assess Drive 2012 has been a phenomenal success so far achieving 27,980 assessments (including quality and importance) in the one month period. The overall theme is to achieve
Statistics of the initial and recent progress
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4 March 2012, 0830 hrs | 95,014 | 60,037 | 540 | 3,309 |
31 March 2012, 0300 hrs | 104,455 | 45,804 | 779 | 27,980 |
As many as 10,000 articles are brought into the scope of the project during the past one month of the project. We profusely thank all the participants involved for their active participation. The drive is still open and we encourage participants from WP India to
enroll themselves.
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I have been posing information related to Dhananjaya (Gotra), using historicial refference books. Some wikipedian is deleting the information, as if he knows all about. I would like to know the reason.
Good Morning to my fellow wikipedians! If I am not wrong we were there in WikiConference India held at Mumbai in the month of November 2011. I am giving you all some trouble here. I had created a new article on Lala Hanumant Sahai which was immediately declined by User:Sitush some 2 days ago. As suggested by him on the tag I re-edited the article and submitted it again leaving a note on his User's talk page. Now he says he does not know Hindi I may ask some other reviewer. I know you are master of Hindi and English. I would request you to please review it and give your findings. A favourable response from any one of you will be appreciated. With thanks in advance I remain semper fidelis, Krantmlverma ( talk) 06:23, 18 June 2012 (UTC) Dr.'Krant'M.L.Verma (talk• Email)
Dear fellow Wikimedians, as you all know on 11th July,2012 Wikiproject India will turn 6. Both Assamase and Kannada Wikipedia has celebrated recently thier 10th and 9th Anniversary respectively. If you planning to celebrate the anniversary and needs help please feel to contact chapter@wikimedia.in -- naveenpf ( talk) 13:48, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Just wanted to inform you that we have put up a post about the India Education Pilot here. Please fell free to initiate, advance or follow the conversation on the same page. Thanks Nitika.t ( talk) 10:35, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Monuments is a global public photo contest around monuments, organized by Wikimedia chapters and groups. This year’s contest is planned for September 2012. Wikimedia India chapter is organising Wiki Loves Monuments (WLM) with India focus. You can read more about this in the following links:
The planning for the event is being kicked off with an IRC session on 21 June 2012 at 9:00pm IST (+5:30 UTC). All interested are invited to join the IRC session. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 12:31, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on at WP:AN that I am sure really relates to this particular project, although the opening post does not say so. - Sitush ( talk) 14:29, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
The article uses 1961 census data while more recent data just related to the issue is available. for example, the 2005-06 National Family Health Survey (NFHS-3). 67.177.230.154 ( talk) 16:51, 21 June 2012 (UTC)Pankaj Goyal
Can someone with knowledge of Indian English please give me some sort of definition of the term "military conflicts". I have been told that it can induce some sort of colonial cognitive bias in IE, whatever the heck that means. - Sitush ( talk) 20:54, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
A small note. The article Mysore survived its featured status review process, and continues to be a featured article. I request editors to help Bangalore retain the FA status, as it is undergoing review as well. Regards.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 04:19, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Please nominate/vote for the next month's COTM. The nominations are open and you can do the same on the
nominations page of the WikiProject.
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A requested move survey was started at Talk:Perth_(disambiguation)#Requested_move, which proposes to move:
Background: There was a previous requested-move survey which ran from late May to mid June. There was a great deal of controversy surrounding the closure and subsequent events, which involved a number of reverts and re-reverts which are the subject of an ongoing arbitration case. There was a move review process, which was closed with a finding that the original requested-move closure was endorsed; however, the move review process is relatively new and untried. — P.T. Aufrette ( talk) 03:18, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians from India. I am here to seek everyone's help and support to edit and develop an article that I have started at my subpage. I have completed most parts of it, but still I think it is a very important issue and can be expanded very much. It is User:Vivek Rai/Ganga Mukti Mahasammelan. Please don't worry about title. I have also included a large no. of possible references to build upon in the links section. Thanks VIVEK RAI : Friend? 10:15, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Gilgit–Baltistan#Neutrality. Ryan Vesey Review me! 15:59, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi, please cast your vote for the next month's collaborations. The nominations will close tonight and results will be declared thereafter. Here is the nominations page. Thanks, BPositive (talk) 06:29, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi all. As per the voting which took place on the nominations page, the articles selected for collaboration of the month for July 2012 are -
I hope you all will join in and help in shaping up these articles.
Happy editing, happy collaborating!
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The report for June 2012 has been published at the reports page. Please check it out. Any suggestions/feedback are welcomed. :-)
Hope to see as many of you in the collaborations for July 2012.
Thanks, BPositive (talk) 07:31, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
( Crossposted to WP:Museums, as well)) Coming from Category:Science_museums_in_India, but present elsewhere, I'm sure is a little confusion. When disambiguating between the various Science City Museums, should there be a comma before the city name? I see it both ways. I also see one instance where the city name is before "Science City" and two where it's listed after. I don't have a particular preference, but I think it should be consistent. Thoughts? I'm not watching here but am watching WP: Museums. If you respond here, please ping me there or on my talk. StarM 01:49, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Some user had removed the image of lyricist, File:Majrooh Sultanpuri (c. 1919 - 2000).jpg, which was originally taken from here, saying it belongs to another lyricist, Shakeel Badayuni, though for the time being I have placed it in the later article so it would survive, I wanted another point of view, some clarification as web images are confusing! So that the rational template could be changed and image renamed, if it really belongs to Badayuni or the change reverted. Thanks!-- Ekabhishek talk 05:06, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
IP 117.220.147.79 (resolving to Ludhiana) has made very extensive alterations and deletions to this article today, including ones related to her ethnicity [9]. I have no idea whether they should remain. Could someone here look it over? The IP has posting some very odd talk page messages around WP today, e.g. [10], [11], [12], [13], which rings alarm bells. - Voceditenore ( talk) 07:55, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
These caves are located om Mumbai-Pune Old highway. Nearly 59 km from Pune. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.87.42.115 ( talk) 09:38, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Please see WT:WikiProject Kolkata, where a discussion is underway on where to move/merge this inactive WikiProject to. -- 70.49.127.65 ( talk) 02:14, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Checkout the http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/geo -- naveenpf ( talk) 02:41, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Ravichandar! I am seeking permission to include your photo of a Horse drawn chariot Darasuram in a textbook my employer, Wiley & Sons, is publishing. Details are as follows: Title: World History: A Thematic Approach, Volumes I and II," Second Edition Author: Steven Wallech, et al Publication date: December 2012 Photo usage: interior, black and white only Rights requested: Non-exclusive, worldwide, all languages, all media (print and electronic), for the life of the edition
I see that this image is under Creative Commons, but I would like direct permission from you just to be sure. I would also like to know your preferred credit line.
I look forward to hearing from you soon!
Linda 98.228.208.116 ( talk) 08:51, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello, i am not a regular Wikipedian and although passionate about Wikipedia and India-related articles, i am busy in real life and have little time to spend here. So i am drawing the attention of fellow users to my concern here.
The user Ancienzus has been involved in shoving in a form of regionalism to articles relating to South India. In articles relation to Malayalam cinema/ Kannada cinema/ Telugu cinema, the actor has been trying to put in the first sentence of the lead that they are "part of South Indian film industry" instead of "part of Indian cinema". The concept of a South Indian film industry is a delusion. All the industries are distinct and independent and all the languages of South India are full fledged languages (not dialects). I feel strongly that since Bollywood is not described in the lead as part of "North Indian film industry" and Assamese film industry not described as being part of "East Indian film industry", such a regional psuedo-industry name should not be applied to the above mentioned articles. Moreover, the user has deceivingly removed content in Malayalam article that relates to Sanskrit.
Please do not ask me to go and post somewhere else for i do not have the time to do so. Thanks if you can look into it. Snowcream ( talk) 10:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
As i went through the history of edits, i couldn't help noticing close similarity of the user with that of the blocked user MThekkumthala, who is grouped with many other users in Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Kalarimaster. Can this be checked? Snowcream ( talk) 12:02, 5 July 2012 (UTC)