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August 4

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 4, 2023.

Martian Congressional Republic.

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 01:06, 12 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Incorrect title (stray period at the end of it). It was moved to the correct title Martian Congressional Republic one minute after creation by the creator, leaving this redirect behind. WP:CSD declined.

The reason this and the correct title redirect to different pages is that I refined the target for the correct title from a page that doesn't mention the term to one that does before noticing the existence of this redirect, and I didn't bother fixing the target of this redirect since it was obviously created accidentally. TompaDompa ( talk) 22:47, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Sean Flynn (actor)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 19#Sean Flynn (actor)

Live performance (primary topic)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 01:07, 12 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Implausible and unhelpful. Created initially as a stub article by a now blocked sock. CycloneYoris talk! 21:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Cedric Martinez

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The result of the discussion was retarget to The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (season 1). (non-admin closure) Duckmather ( talk) 00:10, 12 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Cedric Martinez is not mentioned in The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills article GoingBatty ( talk) 20:42, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Stellantis Europe

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Duckmather ( talk) 00:14, 12 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Redirect title could also be referring to Stellantis Poland or Fiat Ireland. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:48, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Comment An IP recently changed the prose in the article to denote the company as "Stellantis Europe." Not sure why it just wasn't moved. I can't find any source to verify this but will keep looking. - Presidentman talk · contribs ( Talkback) 20:34, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
    Keep per A7V2. I've also found an independent source to verify the change, which I will add to the article. - Presidentman talk · contribs ( Talkback) 14:36, 9 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - It seems as though the Italian branch has indeed been renamed (see [1], ctrl+F "formerly"). Whether the common name has changed is not a matter to be determined here, but given a lack of reporting about this name change as far as I can find, it probably hasn't. A7V2 ( talk) 01:01, 8 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Not alive

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. G7, no other edits. Star Mississippi 19:42, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Unlikely search term. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:36, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

delete it then Sebbog13 ( talk) 18:36, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Google Forums

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 06:51, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Forums and forms are not the same thing, though I understand the creator made the redirect with a misspelling in mind. Google Groups features forums and Google also has a Google Play community forum, Google cloud learning forum, and a support forum. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:26, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Delete i thought it was called Forums but when i looked at wikipedia it was called forms so i made that redirect, but just delete it then if it does fit or whatever Sebbog13 ( talk) 18:28, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
or maybe disambiguate if so many things have forums in google Sebbog13 ( talk) 18:28, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Ric Heitzman

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The result of the discussion was restore. Multiple participants supported an article on the topic, so I will restore the soft-deleted article per Jay's suggestion. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:48, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply

This redirect is for an artist of substantial merit, Ric Heitzman, that deserves a page of their own. It is redirecting to a production that has many aspects, mostly unrelated to Heitzman and a project that was one of many projects of Heitzman. — Danorton ( talk) 18:13, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Delete per WP:RFD#D10/ WP:REDYES. A7V2 ( talk) 01:03, 8 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • @ Danorton and A7V2: Ric Heitzman did have an article of his own, which was deleted in 2020 because of no substantial coverage found. It was a soft delete, so if you are willing to expand on it, I can restore it to replace the redirect, or I can restore it to draftspace and this redirect can remain redlinked until the draft looks good. Jay 💬 07:06, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Christmas family murder

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Essentially a G7 with creator commenting here and agreeing. Star Mississippi 19:41, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Ambiguous title. I'm finding a number of different murders that have taken place on Christmas when searching. Seems like a redirect that should be best left as a red link. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:11, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

delete it then Sebbog13 ( talk) 18:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
please just delete it i dont want these talk messages about stupid shit i make getting deleted Sebbog13 ( talk) 18:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Emily Binx (Hocus Pocus (1993 film) character)

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The result of the discussion was move without redirect to Emily Binx. I was the one that mass deleted Ladyoftrees's redirects. This is a good way to clean-up afterwards as well as resolve the {{ R with history}}. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:42, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Redundant redirect. There is also a redirect simply titled Emily Binx. I'm not sure we need either, but we for sure don't need both. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:48, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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B.A.

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 12#B.A.

Redirects to Diana Sowle

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 20:40, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Inexplicable redirect. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:33, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Comment: @ Bgsu98: I combined some of these nominations because they had the same target and are related to one another. Note that the target, and Diana Sowle's findagrave, list Gerald Kent Laurmer and Gladys Marie (née Winninger) Laumer as Sowle's parents. Hey man im josh ( talk) 15:43, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
Thank you for streamlining that for me! Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:44, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Hocus Pocus 3 (disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was Already deleted (by me). This one was a clear R3 where others weren't, unfortunately. Star Mississippi 15:52, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Implausible redirect. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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MCPHS University

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:29, 7 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Suggesting deletion, as this is an old/obscure name for the university without incoming links. Battlecalm ( talk) 15:21, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Incriminating evidence

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 12#Incriminating evidence

Injuries in netball

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 22#Injuries in netball

Academic study

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Research. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 15:09, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply

I find it strange this redirects to higher education. "Academic publication" redirects to Academic publishing so that's no good. Would the section "Scholarly articles" in Academic journal be a better target? If not, this may be better as a disambiguation page. :3 F4U ( they /it) 02:42, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Talk:Zelle (financial service)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Talk:Zelle. Speedy retarget; syncing to the redirect page it is a talk page of. Deleting functional recently-created talk redirects has no community support, and would affect far more pages than just these. (non-admin closure) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 10:08, 6 August 2023 (UTC) reply

No incoming links to make this redirect worthwhile. Bsherr ( talk) 02:04, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Talk:Zelle (payment service)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Talk:Zelle. Speedy retarget; syncing to the redirect page it is a talk page of. Deleting functional recently-created talk redirects has no community support, and would affect far more pages than just these. (non-admin closure) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 10:07, 6 August 2023 (UTC) reply

No substantive links to this talk page to make redirect worthwhile. Bsherr ( talk) 02:01, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Comment I created this redirect as part of a requested move. Before it was recently moved, the page was Talk:Zelle and its original target page was Talk:Zelle (disambiguation) until it was moved and its redirect target was changed. So, although I received notification about this discussion, this is neither the page nor the redirect target that I handled earlier today. Liz Read! Talk! 02:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy retarget to Talk:Zelle. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 17:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Mancession

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The result of the discussion was soft redirect to Wiktionary:mancession. There's general agreement that there aren't any particularly good options to retarget this to in our mainspace. It's worth noting that the Wiktionary article has links to our articles Unemployment and 2007–2008 financial crisis. (non-admin closure) casualdejekyll 17:55, 17 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Mentioned in the target article and has a reference, but not in a way that adequately defines the term and thus may be WP:NEO. Per the target article, the best target for this redirect may be Great Recession (the target of redirect 2008–2012 global recession); however, this redirect is not currently mentioned in Great Recession. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:43, 26 June 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 23:36, 3 July 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Weak retarget to Great recession, alternative name used in multiple reliable sources ( [2], [3], [4]). However, it can also be loosely applied to recessions that significantly affect men more than women ( [5], etc.), hence a weak retarget. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 21:13, 6 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 23:44, 10 July 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Delete unless mentioned at the target. A term like this seems likely to end up being applied to other recessions as well and could cause confusion if not addressed in the article. signed, Rosguill talk 05:18, 18 July 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Search results provide better context to the term than a redirect can. Jay 💬 07:12, 18 July 2023 (UTC) reply
    They do? A search for "Mancession" (no quotation marks) on the enwiki search engine gets:
    1. Collaborator (film)
    2. Helen Mayer Hacker
    3. Andrea Doucet
    4. Michèle Tertilt
    5. Effects of the Great Recession checkY
    6. Women in Italy
    7. Unemployment checkY
    Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 16:46, 21 July 2023 (UTC) reply
    Yes, I had seen the same results. So does the tick represent that two of the results are relevant and others are not? Jay 💬 17:21, 21 July 2023 (UTC) reply
    Yes. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:21, 7 August 2023 (UTC) reply
    Why? Jay 💬 08:09, 11 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I still feel that this could be a common search term, and deletion feels wrong. How about a soft redirect to wiktionary? Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:08, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply
    Wiktionary could be ok, although in this case I don't think that its plausibility as a search term really points us towards or away from any option; ultimately the problem is the lack of a suitable unambiguous target inside en.wiki, despite the presence of some relevant information. signed, Rosguill talk 20:05, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Procedural relist for closing an old log and to seek further input.
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First-person adventure

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The result of the discussion was restore. Jay 💬 05:16, 1 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. In addition, First-person adventure was formerly an article (See here) that was merged via nominated for WP:AFD in 2007 ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First-person adventure); per that revision, the subject of these redirects is "a hybrid genre of first person shooters and action-adventures", which neither represents the target section nor the target article at all. Steel1943 ( talk) 15:41, 25 June 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Comment - Firstly, this is sort of mentioned in the target: "Some games will utilize a first-person or third-person perspective". I see no evidence that any merge took place, it would be in the history of Graphic adventure game (due to various moves). Further the merge was not the result of AfD, the closure of that was "no consensus" ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First-person adventure), but a later discussion which can be found on Talk:First-person adventure (which I just restored). So I think best to restore since there was no consensus to delete the original article, nor was a merge performed as discussed. A7V2 ( talk) 04:26, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply
    Yeah, I can't read. Corrected. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:11, 2 July 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Retarget to First-person (video games) or simply delete as overly vague. It should definitely not redirect to graphic adventure games. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ) 14:03, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 2NumForIce ( speak| edits) 21:26, 2 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further opinions on restoring?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J947 edits 05:30, 10 July 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Restore and send to AfD, I guess, since I have no refutation to A7V2's argument, even though I don't really like that process. IMO Zxcvbnm's proposed target has too little substance to warrant a redirect, with "adventure" being only mentioned once in passing there. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:45, 21 July 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - I think commenters above may be too used to defining "first person" in terms of first person shooter. See also First-person (video games). - jc37 19:04, 21 July 2023 (UTC) reply
    How is first-person in terms of "first person shooter" different than the general term for video games? "First person" in both cases refers to the fact that your viewpoint is the perspective of your character. :3 F4U ( they /it) 05:33, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Restore and send to AfD – the content may not be particularly-well sourced, but I see at least one usable source in the old article and it seems like it was just BLAR'd, not merged. In fact, the article was actually improved after the AfD (it was unsourced at the time of it closing), and I don't necessarily agree with the conclusion that two person talk page discussion came to that the majority of participants wouldn't be opposed to a redirect/merge. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 04:35, 24 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 01:48, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Comment - I like the restore option, but I don't see a reason to immediately send a page to AfD that had a result of "no consensus" years ago. Let's give people a chance to work on the page first. - jc37 05:35, 17 August 2023 (UTC) reply
    I'd be fine with that. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 08:42, 18 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: mentioned at target (also per jc37) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:37, 22 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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August 4

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 4, 2023.

Martian Congressional Republic.

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 01:06, 12 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Incorrect title (stray period at the end of it). It was moved to the correct title Martian Congressional Republic one minute after creation by the creator, leaving this redirect behind. WP:CSD declined.

The reason this and the correct title redirect to different pages is that I refined the target for the correct title from a page that doesn't mention the term to one that does before noticing the existence of this redirect, and I didn't bother fixing the target of this redirect since it was obviously created accidentally. TompaDompa ( talk) 22:47, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Sean Flynn (actor)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 August 19#Sean Flynn (actor)

Live performance (primary topic)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 01:07, 12 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Implausible and unhelpful. Created initially as a stub article by a now blocked sock. CycloneYoris talk! 21:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Cedric Martinez

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The result of the discussion was retarget to The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (season 1). (non-admin closure) Duckmather ( talk) 00:10, 12 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Cedric Martinez is not mentioned in The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills article GoingBatty ( talk) 20:42, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Stellantis Europe

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Duckmather ( talk) 00:14, 12 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Redirect title could also be referring to Stellantis Poland or Fiat Ireland. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:48, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Comment An IP recently changed the prose in the article to denote the company as "Stellantis Europe." Not sure why it just wasn't moved. I can't find any source to verify this but will keep looking. - Presidentman talk · contribs ( Talkback) 20:34, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
    Keep per A7V2. I've also found an independent source to verify the change, which I will add to the article. - Presidentman talk · contribs ( Talkback) 14:36, 9 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - It seems as though the Italian branch has indeed been renamed (see [1], ctrl+F "formerly"). Whether the common name has changed is not a matter to be determined here, but given a lack of reporting about this name change as far as I can find, it probably hasn't. A7V2 ( talk) 01:01, 8 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Not alive

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. G7, no other edits. Star Mississippi 19:42, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Unlikely search term. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:36, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

delete it then Sebbog13 ( talk) 18:36, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Google Forums

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 06:51, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Forums and forms are not the same thing, though I understand the creator made the redirect with a misspelling in mind. Google Groups features forums and Google also has a Google Play community forum, Google cloud learning forum, and a support forum. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:26, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Delete i thought it was called Forums but when i looked at wikipedia it was called forms so i made that redirect, but just delete it then if it does fit or whatever Sebbog13 ( talk) 18:28, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
or maybe disambiguate if so many things have forums in google Sebbog13 ( talk) 18:28, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Ric Heitzman

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The result of the discussion was restore. Multiple participants supported an article on the topic, so I will restore the soft-deleted article per Jay's suggestion. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:48, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply

This redirect is for an artist of substantial merit, Ric Heitzman, that deserves a page of their own. It is redirecting to a production that has many aspects, mostly unrelated to Heitzman and a project that was one of many projects of Heitzman. — Danorton ( talk) 18:13, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Delete per WP:RFD#D10/ WP:REDYES. A7V2 ( talk) 01:03, 8 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • @ Danorton and A7V2: Ric Heitzman did have an article of his own, which was deleted in 2020 because of no substantial coverage found. It was a soft delete, so if you are willing to expand on it, I can restore it to replace the redirect, or I can restore it to draftspace and this redirect can remain redlinked until the draft looks good. Jay 💬 07:06, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Christmas family murder

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Essentially a G7 with creator commenting here and agreeing. Star Mississippi 19:41, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Ambiguous title. I'm finding a number of different murders that have taken place on Christmas when searching. Seems like a redirect that should be best left as a red link. Hey man im josh ( talk) 18:11, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

delete it then Sebbog13 ( talk) 18:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
please just delete it i dont want these talk messages about stupid shit i make getting deleted Sebbog13 ( talk) 18:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Emily Binx (Hocus Pocus (1993 film) character)

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The result of the discussion was move without redirect to Emily Binx. I was the one that mass deleted Ladyoftrees's redirects. This is a good way to clean-up afterwards as well as resolve the {{ R with history}}. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:42, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Redundant redirect. There is also a redirect simply titled Emily Binx. I'm not sure we need either, but we for sure don't need both. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:48, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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B.A.

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Redirects to Diana Sowle

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 20:40, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Inexplicable redirect. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:33, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Comment: @ Bgsu98: I combined some of these nominations because they had the same target and are related to one another. Note that the target, and Diana Sowle's findagrave, list Gerald Kent Laurmer and Gladys Marie (née Winninger) Laumer as Sowle's parents. Hey man im josh ( talk) 15:43, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
Thank you for streamlining that for me! Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:44, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Hocus Pocus 3 (disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was Already deleted (by me). This one was a clear R3 where others weren't, unfortunately. Star Mississippi 15:52, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Implausible redirect. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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MCPHS University

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:29, 7 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Suggesting deletion, as this is an old/obscure name for the university without incoming links. Battlecalm ( talk) 15:21, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Incriminating evidence

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Injuries in netball

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Academic study

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Research. (non-admin closure) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 15:09, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply

I find it strange this redirects to higher education. "Academic publication" redirects to Academic publishing so that's no good. Would the section "Scholarly articles" in Academic journal be a better target? If not, this may be better as a disambiguation page. :3 F4U ( they /it) 02:42, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Talk:Zelle (financial service)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Talk:Zelle. Speedy retarget; syncing to the redirect page it is a talk page of. Deleting functional recently-created talk redirects has no community support, and would affect far more pages than just these. (non-admin closure) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 10:08, 6 August 2023 (UTC) reply

No incoming links to make this redirect worthwhile. Bsherr ( talk) 02:04, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

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Talk:Zelle (payment service)

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Talk:Zelle. Speedy retarget; syncing to the redirect page it is a talk page of. Deleting functional recently-created talk redirects has no community support, and would affect far more pages than just these. (non-admin closure) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 10:07, 6 August 2023 (UTC) reply

No substantive links to this talk page to make redirect worthwhile. Bsherr ( talk) 02:01, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Comment I created this redirect as part of a requested move. Before it was recently moved, the page was Talk:Zelle and its original target page was Talk:Zelle (disambiguation) until it was moved and its redirect target was changed. So, although I received notification about this discussion, this is neither the page nor the redirect target that I handled earlier today. Liz Read! Talk! 02:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy retarget to Talk:Zelle. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 17:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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Mancession

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The result of the discussion was soft redirect to Wiktionary:mancession. There's general agreement that there aren't any particularly good options to retarget this to in our mainspace. It's worth noting that the Wiktionary article has links to our articles Unemployment and 2007–2008 financial crisis. (non-admin closure) casualdejekyll 17:55, 17 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Mentioned in the target article and has a reference, but not in a way that adequately defines the term and thus may be WP:NEO. Per the target article, the best target for this redirect may be Great Recession (the target of redirect 2008–2012 global recession); however, this redirect is not currently mentioned in Great Recession. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:43, 26 June 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 23:36, 3 July 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Weak retarget to Great recession, alternative name used in multiple reliable sources ( [2], [3], [4]). However, it can also be loosely applied to recessions that significantly affect men more than women ( [5], etc.), hence a weak retarget. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 21:13, 6 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 23:44, 10 July 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Delete unless mentioned at the target. A term like this seems likely to end up being applied to other recessions as well and could cause confusion if not addressed in the article. signed, Rosguill talk 05:18, 18 July 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Search results provide better context to the term than a redirect can. Jay 💬 07:12, 18 July 2023 (UTC) reply
    They do? A search for "Mancession" (no quotation marks) on the enwiki search engine gets:
    1. Collaborator (film)
    2. Helen Mayer Hacker
    3. Andrea Doucet
    4. Michèle Tertilt
    5. Effects of the Great Recession checkY
    6. Women in Italy
    7. Unemployment checkY
    Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 16:46, 21 July 2023 (UTC) reply
    Yes, I had seen the same results. So does the tick represent that two of the results are relevant and others are not? Jay 💬 17:21, 21 July 2023 (UTC) reply
    Yes. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:21, 7 August 2023 (UTC) reply
    Why? Jay 💬 08:09, 11 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I still feel that this could be a common search term, and deletion feels wrong. How about a soft redirect to wiktionary? Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:08, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply
    Wiktionary could be ok, although in this case I don't think that its plausibility as a search term really points us towards or away from any option; ultimately the problem is the lack of a suitable unambiguous target inside en.wiki, despite the presence of some relevant information. signed, Rosguill talk 20:05, 19 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Procedural relist for closing an old log and to seek further input.
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First-person adventure

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The result of the discussion was restore. Jay 💬 05:16, 1 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target article. In addition, First-person adventure was formerly an article (See here) that was merged via nominated for WP:AFD in 2007 ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First-person adventure); per that revision, the subject of these redirects is "a hybrid genre of first person shooters and action-adventures", which neither represents the target section nor the target article at all. Steel1943 ( talk) 15:41, 25 June 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Comment - Firstly, this is sort of mentioned in the target: "Some games will utilize a first-person or third-person perspective". I see no evidence that any merge took place, it would be in the history of Graphic adventure game (due to various moves). Further the merge was not the result of AfD, the closure of that was "no consensus" ( Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First-person adventure), but a later discussion which can be found on Talk:First-person adventure (which I just restored). So I think best to restore since there was no consensus to delete the original article, nor was a merge performed as discussed. A7V2 ( talk) 04:26, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply
    Yeah, I can't read. Corrected. Steel1943 ( talk) 23:11, 2 July 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Retarget to First-person (video games) or simply delete as overly vague. It should definitely not redirect to graphic adventure games. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ ( ) 14:03, 30 June 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 2NumForIce ( speak| edits) 21:26, 2 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further opinions on restoring?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J947 edits 05:30, 10 July 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Restore and send to AfD, I guess, since I have no refutation to A7V2's argument, even though I don't really like that process. IMO Zxcvbnm's proposed target has too little substance to warrant a redirect, with "adventure" being only mentioned once in passing there. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:45, 21 July 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep - I think commenters above may be too used to defining "first person" in terms of first person shooter. See also First-person (video games). - jc37 19:04, 21 July 2023 (UTC) reply
    How is first-person in terms of "first person shooter" different than the general term for video games? "First person" in both cases refers to the fact that your viewpoint is the perspective of your character. :3 F4U ( they /it) 05:33, 4 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Restore and send to AfD – the content may not be particularly-well sourced, but I see at least one usable source in the old article and it seems like it was just BLAR'd, not merged. In fact, the article was actually improved after the AfD (it was unsourced at the time of it closing), and I don't necessarily agree with the conclusion that two person talk page discussion came to that the majority of participants wouldn't be opposed to a redirect/merge. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 04:35, 24 July 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
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  • Comment - I like the restore option, but I don't see a reason to immediately send a page to AfD that had a result of "no consensus" years ago. Let's give people a chance to work on the page first. - jc37 05:35, 17 August 2023 (UTC) reply
    I'd be fine with that. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 08:42, 18 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: mentioned at target (also per jc37) Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk 13:37, 22 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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