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Internet Security Barrier X6
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 21:13, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Not mentioned at the target
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 21:09, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep Megacities are large cities. Not seeing the problem.
Andrew🐉(
talk) 00:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Reply.
Tom Cruise is a superstar. Should superstar redirect to him? (Denzel Washington and some others would be annoyed.)
Clarityfiend (
talk) 05:15, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
It's good enough. A is B does not imply B is A. Or a megacity is only an example of a large city.
Clarityfiend (
talk) 05:57, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete Megacity has an objective definition; "large city" does not. I'm sure people are going to apply this label to any sufficiently large city (e.g.
Toronto, pop. 2.7M) that is not necessarily a megacity (
metro area pop ≥ 10M). –
LaundryPizza03 (
dc̄) 04:56, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete, too vague. —
Xezbeth (
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Delete as vague. No clear definition or quantity that defines "large".
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Ecological burial/funeral
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Promession is only one of the many body disposition ways that are called "ecological burial/funeral" (like
Alkaline hydrolysis (body disposal)), thus these redirects are incorrect.
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Draft:Wuhan Coronavirus 2019
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:54, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Another cross-namespace redirect that likely should not exist. Zoozaz1 20:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Delete. This is an abandoned draft. Not sure why
MarkZusab chose to redirect instead of letting it
WP:G13 delete as it expired. Technicaly it has history, but since it's in the draft space and would qualify for G13 if it were restored, I think just deleing it now is fine. −
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Draft:Corona Chasers
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I really don't know why this cross-namespace redirect exists, and I don't think this is an appropriate or common redirect. Zoozaz1 20:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Delete, I guess. They are
WP:CHEAP, and this
WP:NEOLOGISM is in the draft space, so it's not going to pop up in any standard searches to mislead anyone, but we're already here now, so might as well finish it. As to why, the history shows that it was a single edit account trying to create a brand new term, and it eventually was redirected, presumably as a valid
WP:ATD. —
2pou (
talk) 02:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. After being exposed to the term "bugchaser", I am guessing that this refers to people who either want to get infected by COVID-19 or just really, really want to crack open a cool refreshing can of Corona beer. The current target (not a section redirect either) doesn't have the word "chaser" or mention a group of people who want to be infected. —
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Korona pandemic
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
This is an uncommon misspelling of Corona pandemic, which itself is an uncommon phrasing. Over the past 30 days, there have been 7 pageviews. Zoozaz1 20:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Weak keep It does get some uses, but for news sources I only got
three. I'm not sure whether it's enough for it to be kept. --
Pandakekok9 (
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Delete per nom. Clearly an uncommon misspelling.
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List of Famous Lies
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Not sure if "lies" should redirect to "misconceptions".
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 19:13, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. Famous doesn't mean common either. The average reader would probably expect something like
this, except without the top 10 part. --
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Gun Girl
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Liberty Hangout
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Redirects to a reporter for the website not sure why
🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (
talk) 18:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. I'm going in depth because
1.Ayana asked not sure why. Ms. Bennett is the only notable person associated with this website. One can learn a lot about Liberty Hangout from her article, including: 1) it is a far-right organization that she reports for, 2) that it was founded by her husband, 3) the website published interviews that Bennett conducted called "College Students Have No Morals" that received some attention, 4) the website "received criticism for statements on Twitter supporting Holocaust denial, monarchy, and disfranchisement". No other article has this kind of content, all other mentions are in references for articles associated with
Darrell Castle and the
Libertarian Party (US). --
Tavix(
talk) 19:39, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep per the research done by
Tavix. —
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William Gliesa
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Weak delete this redirect. While the A and E keys are really close to each other on a QWERTY keyboard (and adjacent to the S key), thus creating potential plausibility, it doesn't seem to be used that much, having attained
35 pageviews since July 2015. Regards,
SONIC678 20:06, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
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Los diez fugitivos más buscados por el FBI
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The result of the discussion was delete. —
Wug·a·po·des 02:46, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
No specific association with Spanish, delete per
WP:RLOTEsigned, Rosguilltalk 18:06, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom and
WP:RFOREIGN, these fugitives (past, present, and future) originate from a variety of countries, not all of which have Spanish as an official or widely spoken language. Regards,
SONIC678 20:11, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
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List of famous engineers
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Comment: Adding the plural form
List of famous engineers to the discussion, for which I'm thinking similar action might need to be taken. Working on it...done. Regards,
SONIC678 16:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Retarget per nom. They have to be famous/notable enough to be noted on the list anyway.
Ed6767talk! 17:29, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Retarget per nomination, the poor grammar in the first is not a big enough issue to make it worth deleting.
Thryduulf (
talk) 19:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Both of these redirects are very old, so don't delete. Both of them were redirects to
List of engineers, though they were retargeted to
Engineer by
DanMS and
Timwi respectively, because at that time underscores weren't supported in redirect targets. At least, that's what I thought. Retargeting them back to
List of engineers is the best option per above. --
Pandakekok9 (
talk) 06:03, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Retarget both per nom and I agree with Pandakekok9's comment above in that they're both
quite old. No need for deletion.
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:51, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
No mention of the company at target. Delete to encourage article creation.
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101st Street Entertainment
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IOS 3.0
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The result of the discussion was keep. —
Wug·a·po·des 02:47, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep as it is because readers looking for those early versions of iOS will not necessarily know that it was called “iPhone OS” back in those days.
◊PRAHLADbalaji (
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@
Prahlad balaji: Then I don't understand your argument. The suggested new target describes this exact version of iPhone OS 3, while the current article hardly mentions it.
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 15:51, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Retarget per above.
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Keep - the first sentence of the first paragraph starts with "iPhone OS 3 is the third major release of the iOS mobile operating system developed by Apple Inc.", and then mentions the "iPhone OS" -> "iOS" rename. If that's not sufficient to explain why "iOS 3.0" goes there, explain further, as per my suggestion in the discussion of the iOS 1.0 redirect. As for "iPhone OS 3.0", yes, there's currently no short release history in
iPhone OS 3, although
iOS 4 has one, but only has release-numbered subsections for update releases, so
iOS 4.0 redirects to
iOS 4, so I don't see the issue.
Guy Harris (
talk) 19:04, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Guy Harris: Do you understand my argument? It's not about the incorrect name, it's about the specific version 3.0, which is not described at the target.
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 10:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Weak Keep. Like
Guy Harris and the IOS1 nom below, I'm not really seeing the problem here. The content at the current target is fine. I guess the proposed retarget is as well, but why go to a subsection vice an article? Unless there is a desire to merge into the IOS version history (and i could potentially see that as a possibility) since it falls
WP:WITHIN the scope, and there isnt a whole lot more at the target, but that's not for RfD. —
2pou (
talk) 02:07, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
2pou: There is almost no information specific to version 3.0 at the current target, while there is in the list.
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 10:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
1234qwer1234qwer4: In the infobox, I am seeing a big 3.0 in the image, and the archived website specifies 3.0. Then in the two sources for the initial release, 3.0 is in the title. I guess thats not necessarily in the base text... I imagine because the version info once lived here before being merged to the version history. I suppose that I'm somewhat neutral overall, though. Like i said, both are valid targets. I just feel like the current target gets you to the same info via the {{
main}} link in what used to be a version history. If I were a page watcher, and this were boldly retargeted, I would not revert it. However, we should be consistent. Why is 3.0 being singled out? The same arguement can be made for all versions except the latest, 3.2.2 (and even that is only in the infobox).
Every redirect to this page outside
IOS 3 calls out a version number. —
2pou (
talk) 13:51, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
2pou: Oh wow, I didn't notice them; thank you. Apparently I only used the search suggestions. Yeah, I suggest they also be retargeted (as long as the version history exists separately from the major version articles).
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 17:29, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep per Guy Harris and 2pou. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. --
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IOS 1.0
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The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:50, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep as it is because people looking for those early versions of iOS will not necessarily know that it was called “iPhone OS” back in those days.
◊PRAHLADbalaji (
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Retarget per 1234qwer1234qwer4.
◊PRAHLADbalaji (
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Keep - the target says "iPhone OS 1 is the first major release of iOS"; if that's not sufficient, perhaps it should explain that "first major release of iOS" means "it'd have been iOS 1, but they didn't call it iOS yet".
Guy Harris (
talk) 18:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Guy Harris: Do you understand my argument? It's not about the incorrect name, it's about the specific version 1.0, which is not described at the target.
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 10:35, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
1234qwer1234qwer4: I understand it, I just think it's not a good argument; I don't see any problem with "iOS 1.0" going to an article about it-would-be-iOS-but-they-hadn't-renamed-it-yet 1. If somebody's ambitious, they could put a version history into the article and make it link there.
Guy Harris (
talk) 10:37, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Guy Harris: I don't understand why you are referring to the fact the redirect says "iOS" instead of "iPhone OS" then. This is absolutely not the point.
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 10:42, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
1234qwer1234qwer4: Just to ward off arguments that "I typed "iOS 1.0" but this page says "iPhoneOS 1", not "iOS 1"." would matter.
Guy Harris (
talk) 10:51, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Guy Harris: What is your argument for not retargeting to a list where, as opposed to the article, the exact topic is mentioned?
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 10:54, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
1234qwer1234qwer4: 1) I'm not convinced that people looking for "iOS 1.0" are necessarily curious about that particular minor version - they may well just want information about the major release - so I'm not convinced the change adds much, and 2) for those who do want information about the minor release, that information should be put into the "{iPhoneOS,iOS} N" articles (and maybe
iOS version history should be carved up and the pieces dropped into the "{iPhoneOS,iOS} N" articles) - that'd solve the "this article is too big" problem).
Guy Harris (
talk) 11:04, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
iPhone OS 1#History now has an "Introduction and initial release" subsection for iPhone OS 1.0, as well as an "Updates" subsection for subsequent releases.
Guy Harris (
talk) 22:16, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. Like
Guy Harris, I'm not really seeing the problem here. The content at the current target is fine. I guess the proposed retarget is as well, but why go to a subsection vice an article? Unless there is a desire to merge into the IOS version history (and i could potentially see that as a possibility) since it falls
WP:WITHIN the scope, and there isnt a whole lot more at the target, but that's not for RfD. —
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List of famous Ahmadis of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:49, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. No, this is a junk redirect for several reasons, the most egregious being the undefined and subjective "famous". --
Tavix(
talk) 15:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Meh, if "famous" is the only issue, I think it's fine to
let sleeping redirects lie. "List of famous x" to "List of x" would naturally include all "famous" x anyway. Some might actually have a "famous" criterion in the list, but I'm not going to go through them to say one way or the other. --
Tavix(
talk) 16:16, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Tavix: That makes sense. A list of Fooian people certainly does not include every one of them (although it's rather "well-known").
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IOS 15
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:48, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
This is a misleading redirect in that the target article provides no information about this topic. If I wanted to find specific information on iOS 15, I would be disappointed to end up at an article that doesn't have what I'm looking for. --
Tavix(
talk) 01:32, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Retarget to
iOS version history where users will currently find there is no such version presently and will find the content we do have when it is written.
Thryduulf (
talk) 12:17, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
You're putting the cart before the horse. When we have content for iOS 15, then there can be a redirect saying so.
Write the content first. --
Tavix(
talk) 13:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Tavix: Well, iOS 14 was created well before there was any content. Thanks, Thanoscar21talk,
contribs 17:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
If iOS 14 was created before there was any content, it should have been deleted at that time. If it wasn't, then that's an oversight, not an excuse to create another misleading redirect. --
Tavix(
talk) 18:06, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per others. I know
WP:TOOSOON is not about redirects, but major iOS versions currently all have separate articles, and an article for this would fall under the essay.
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Internet Security Barrier X6
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Not mentioned at the target
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 21:09, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep Megacities are large cities. Not seeing the problem.
Andrew🐉(
talk) 00:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Reply.
Tom Cruise is a superstar. Should superstar redirect to him? (Denzel Washington and some others would be annoyed.)
Clarityfiend (
talk) 05:15, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
It's good enough. A is B does not imply B is A. Or a megacity is only an example of a large city.
Clarityfiend (
talk) 05:57, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete Megacity has an objective definition; "large city" does not. I'm sure people are going to apply this label to any sufficiently large city (e.g.
Toronto, pop. 2.7M) that is not necessarily a megacity (
metro area pop ≥ 10M). –
LaundryPizza03 (
dc̄) 04:56, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete, too vague. —
Xezbeth (
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Delete as vague. No clear definition or quantity that defines "large".
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Ecological burial/funeral
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Promession is only one of the many body disposition ways that are called "ecological burial/funeral" (like
Alkaline hydrolysis (body disposal)), thus these redirects are incorrect.
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Draft:Wuhan Coronavirus 2019
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:54, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Another cross-namespace redirect that likely should not exist. Zoozaz1 20:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Delete. This is an abandoned draft. Not sure why
MarkZusab chose to redirect instead of letting it
WP:G13 delete as it expired. Technicaly it has history, but since it's in the draft space and would qualify for G13 if it were restored, I think just deleing it now is fine. −
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Draft:Corona Chasers
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I really don't know why this cross-namespace redirect exists, and I don't think this is an appropriate or common redirect. Zoozaz1 20:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Delete, I guess. They are
WP:CHEAP, and this
WP:NEOLOGISM is in the draft space, so it's not going to pop up in any standard searches to mislead anyone, but we're already here now, so might as well finish it. As to why, the history shows that it was a single edit account trying to create a brand new term, and it eventually was redirected, presumably as a valid
WP:ATD. —
2pou (
talk) 02:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. After being exposed to the term "bugchaser", I am guessing that this refers to people who either want to get infected by COVID-19 or just really, really want to crack open a cool refreshing can of Corona beer. The current target (not a section redirect either) doesn't have the word "chaser" or mention a group of people who want to be infected. —
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Korona pandemic
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
This is an uncommon misspelling of Corona pandemic, which itself is an uncommon phrasing. Over the past 30 days, there have been 7 pageviews. Zoozaz1 20:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Weak keep It does get some uses, but for news sources I only got
three. I'm not sure whether it's enough for it to be kept. --
Pandakekok9 (
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Delete per nom. Clearly an uncommon misspelling.
CycloneYoristalk! 22:05, 4 July 2020 (UTC)reply
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List of Famous Lies
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Not sure if "lies" should redirect to "misconceptions".
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
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Delete per nom. Famous doesn't mean common either. The average reader would probably expect something like
this, except without the top 10 part. --
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Gun Girl
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Liberty Hangout
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Redirects to a reporter for the website not sure why
🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (
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Keep. I'm going in depth because
1.Ayana asked not sure why. Ms. Bennett is the only notable person associated with this website. One can learn a lot about Liberty Hangout from her article, including: 1) it is a far-right organization that she reports for, 2) that it was founded by her husband, 3) the website published interviews that Bennett conducted called "College Students Have No Morals" that received some attention, 4) the website "received criticism for statements on Twitter supporting Holocaust denial, monarchy, and disfranchisement". No other article has this kind of content, all other mentions are in references for articles associated with
Darrell Castle and the
Libertarian Party (US). --
Tavix(
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Keep per the research done by
Tavix. —
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William Gliesa
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Weak delete this redirect. While the A and E keys are really close to each other on a QWERTY keyboard (and adjacent to the S key), thus creating potential plausibility, it doesn't seem to be used that much, having attained
35 pageviews since July 2015. Regards,
SONIC678 20:06, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
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Los diez fugitivos más buscados por el FBI
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The result of the discussion was delete. —
Wug·a·po·des 02:46, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
No specific association with Spanish, delete per
WP:RLOTEsigned, Rosguilltalk 18:06, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom and
WP:RFOREIGN, these fugitives (past, present, and future) originate from a variety of countries, not all of which have Spanish as an official or widely spoken language. Regards,
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List of famous engineers
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Comment: Adding the plural form
List of famous engineers to the discussion, for which I'm thinking similar action might need to be taken. Working on it...done. Regards,
SONIC678 16:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Retarget per nom. They have to be famous/notable enough to be noted on the list anyway.
Ed6767talk! 17:29, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Retarget per nomination, the poor grammar in the first is not a big enough issue to make it worth deleting.
Thryduulf (
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Both of these redirects are very old, so don't delete. Both of them were redirects to
List of engineers, though they were retargeted to
Engineer by
DanMS and
Timwi respectively, because at that time underscores weren't supported in redirect targets. At least, that's what I thought. Retargeting them back to
List of engineers is the best option per above. --
Pandakekok9 (
talk) 06:03, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Retarget both per nom and I agree with Pandakekok9's comment above in that they're both
quite old. No need for deletion.
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:51, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
No mention of the company at target. Delete to encourage article creation.
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101st Street Entertainment
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IOS 3.0
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The result of the discussion was keep. —
Wug·a·po·des 02:47, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep as it is because readers looking for those early versions of iOS will not necessarily know that it was called “iPhone OS” back in those days.
◊PRAHLADbalaji (
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@
Prahlad balaji: Then I don't understand your argument. The suggested new target describes this exact version of iPhone OS 3, while the current article hardly mentions it.
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
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Retarget per above.
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Keep - the first sentence of the first paragraph starts with "iPhone OS 3 is the third major release of the iOS mobile operating system developed by Apple Inc.", and then mentions the "iPhone OS" -> "iOS" rename. If that's not sufficient to explain why "iOS 3.0" goes there, explain further, as per my suggestion in the discussion of the iOS 1.0 redirect. As for "iPhone OS 3.0", yes, there's currently no short release history in
iPhone OS 3, although
iOS 4 has one, but only has release-numbered subsections for update releases, so
iOS 4.0 redirects to
iOS 4, so I don't see the issue.
Guy Harris (
talk) 19:04, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Guy Harris: Do you understand my argument? It's not about the incorrect name, it's about the specific version 3.0, which is not described at the target.
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 10:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Weak Keep. Like
Guy Harris and the IOS1 nom below, I'm not really seeing the problem here. The content at the current target is fine. I guess the proposed retarget is as well, but why go to a subsection vice an article? Unless there is a desire to merge into the IOS version history (and i could potentially see that as a possibility) since it falls
WP:WITHIN the scope, and there isnt a whole lot more at the target, but that's not for RfD. —
2pou (
talk) 02:07, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
2pou: There is almost no information specific to version 3.0 at the current target, while there is in the list.
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 10:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
1234qwer1234qwer4: In the infobox, I am seeing a big 3.0 in the image, and the archived website specifies 3.0. Then in the two sources for the initial release, 3.0 is in the title. I guess thats not necessarily in the base text... I imagine because the version info once lived here before being merged to the version history. I suppose that I'm somewhat neutral overall, though. Like i said, both are valid targets. I just feel like the current target gets you to the same info via the {{
main}} link in what used to be a version history. If I were a page watcher, and this were boldly retargeted, I would not revert it. However, we should be consistent. Why is 3.0 being singled out? The same arguement can be made for all versions except the latest, 3.2.2 (and even that is only in the infobox).
Every redirect to this page outside
IOS 3 calls out a version number. —
2pou (
talk) 13:51, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
2pou: Oh wow, I didn't notice them; thank you. Apparently I only used the search suggestions. Yeah, I suggest they also be retargeted (as long as the version history exists separately from the major version articles).
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
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Keep per Guy Harris and 2pou. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. --
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IOS 1.0
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The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:50, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep as it is because people looking for those early versions of iOS will not necessarily know that it was called “iPhone OS” back in those days.
◊PRAHLADbalaji (
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Retarget per 1234qwer1234qwer4.
◊PRAHLADbalaji (
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Keep - the target says "iPhone OS 1 is the first major release of iOS"; if that's not sufficient, perhaps it should explain that "first major release of iOS" means "it'd have been iOS 1, but they didn't call it iOS yet".
Guy Harris (
talk) 18:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Guy Harris: Do you understand my argument? It's not about the incorrect name, it's about the specific version 1.0, which is not described at the target.
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 10:35, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
1234qwer1234qwer4: I understand it, I just think it's not a good argument; I don't see any problem with "iOS 1.0" going to an article about it-would-be-iOS-but-they-hadn't-renamed-it-yet 1. If somebody's ambitious, they could put a version history into the article and make it link there.
Guy Harris (
talk) 10:37, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Guy Harris: I don't understand why you are referring to the fact the redirect says "iOS" instead of "iPhone OS" then. This is absolutely not the point.
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 10:42, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
1234qwer1234qwer4: Just to ward off arguments that "I typed "iOS 1.0" but this page says "iPhoneOS 1", not "iOS 1"." would matter.
Guy Harris (
talk) 10:51, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Guy Harris: What is your argument for not retargeting to a list where, as opposed to the article, the exact topic is mentioned?
1234qwer1234qwer4 (
talk) 10:54, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
1234qwer1234qwer4: 1) I'm not convinced that people looking for "iOS 1.0" are necessarily curious about that particular minor version - they may well just want information about the major release - so I'm not convinced the change adds much, and 2) for those who do want information about the minor release, that information should be put into the "{iPhoneOS,iOS} N" articles (and maybe
iOS version history should be carved up and the pieces dropped into the "{iPhoneOS,iOS} N" articles) - that'd solve the "this article is too big" problem).
Guy Harris (
talk) 11:04, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
iPhone OS 1#History now has an "Introduction and initial release" subsection for iPhone OS 1.0, as well as an "Updates" subsection for subsequent releases.
Guy Harris (
talk) 22:16, 28 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. Like
Guy Harris, I'm not really seeing the problem here. The content at the current target is fine. I guess the proposed retarget is as well, but why go to a subsection vice an article? Unless there is a desire to merge into the IOS version history (and i could potentially see that as a possibility) since it falls
WP:WITHIN the scope, and there isnt a whole lot more at the target, but that's not for RfD. —
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List of famous Ahmadis of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:49, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. No, this is a junk redirect for several reasons, the most egregious being the undefined and subjective "famous". --
Tavix(
talk) 15:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Meh, if "famous" is the only issue, I think it's fine to
let sleeping redirects lie. "List of famous x" to "List of x" would naturally include all "famous" x anyway. Some might actually have a "famous" criterion in the list, but I'm not going to go through them to say one way or the other. --
Tavix(
talk) 16:16, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Tavix: That makes sense. A list of Fooian people certainly does not include every one of them (although it's rather "well-known").
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IOS 15
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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguilltalk 19:48, 6 July 2020 (UTC)reply
This is a misleading redirect in that the target article provides no information about this topic. If I wanted to find specific information on iOS 15, I would be disappointed to end up at an article that doesn't have what I'm looking for. --
Tavix(
talk) 01:32, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Retarget to
iOS version history where users will currently find there is no such version presently and will find the content we do have when it is written.
Thryduulf (
talk) 12:17, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
You're putting the cart before the horse. When we have content for iOS 15, then there can be a redirect saying so.
Write the content first. --
Tavix(
talk) 13:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Tavix: Well, iOS 14 was created well before there was any content. Thanks, Thanoscar21talk,
contribs 17:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
If iOS 14 was created before there was any content, it should have been deleted at that time. If it wasn't, then that's an oversight, not an excuse to create another misleading redirect. --
Tavix(
talk) 18:06, 27 June 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per others. I know
WP:TOOSOON is not about redirects, but major iOS versions currently all have separate articles, and an article for this would fall under the essay.
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