The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot ( talk) 00:26, 16 March 2024 (UTC) [1]. reply
Timeline of the 1991 Atlantic hurricane season ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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This timeline was created by Flux55, a promising new user who has already done a lot of good work. 1991 was a quiet year for Atlantic hurricanes, but don't tell that to anyone in New England! Hurricane Bob caused extensive damage and over a dozen fatalities when it scraped up the East Coast and plowed into Rhode Island at Category 2 strength—it's still the most recent New England hurricane landfall. Also of note was the infamous Perfect Storm, which became a large, powerful, and damaging nor'easter after it ate Hurricane Grace for dinner... and then itself became a hurricane before making landfall in Canada as a weakened system! I'm proud of the work Flux and I put into this, and we look forward to the community's feedback. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 00:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Comments by AndrewPeterT
Hello, Dylan! This is Andrew444 from Wikia! It is so nice to see you again after all these years still interested in tropical cyclones! Anyway, I am going to do my best to evaluate this list for featured criteria. I would ask that other comments elaborate on the points I bring up wherever possible:
1. Prose - I appreciate that there is plenty of meteorological jargon appropriately used in the timeline, yet the language remains accessible for everyone. I also see no obvious grammatical errors, and the page "feels" objective and encyclopedic when I read it. I would also like to offer the following content-related feedback:
2. Lead - I defer to another editor on whether or not the first few paragraphs satisfy the fine print of WP:MOSLEAD. However, I can say that the page nicely includes the "standard explanatory text" for hurricane season timelines. I also really like how the second paragraph summarizes the major impacts of Hurricane Bob and the 1991 Perfect Storm. That being said, I do have the following feedback:
3. Comprehensiveness -
(a) In general, the page does a great job describing when each tropical cyclone "changed" Saffir-Simpson scale categories and made landfall. Pass on this criterion.
(b) I do not see any statements that must be cited per WP:MINREF. However, I would like to contest the following claim made in the timeline:
Tropical Depression Two makes landfall near La Pesca, Mexico with winds of 35 mph (55 km). Its only known barometric pressure measurement of 1,007 mbar (29.74 inHg) is taken around this time.
The corresponding cited source from the National Hurricane Center only states the 1007 mbar reading. It never says this reading was the only measurement taken from the depression. Could either another source be found for the latter sentence or the latter sentence be removed altogether?
(c) I will defer to other editors on whether this page meets the criteria of WP:STANDALONE and WP:CFORK. That being said, I can say that while some large chunks of language do seem to be very similar to other Atlantic hurricane season timelines (e.g. that of 1992), I can tell that the specific wording is customized specifically for the 1991 season. Finally, because of how much specific detail is present about formations, dissipations, and other key events of all the storms, I would argue content would be lost if we tried to merge the timeline into the general season article. With that, I say pass on this criterion.
4. Structure - I greatly appreciate the consistent layout of the timeline. Readers like me can easily follow along as the days and months of the 1991 season progress. Pass on this criterion.
5. Style - I defer to other editors on whether your work fully meets the criteria of the WP:MOS. However, I can say the following:
(a) Visual appeal - I am happy to see the lack of red links. Also, the visual timeline, like it does on other WP:WPTC articles, provides a great and simple color-coding scheme for readers to digest and visualize different storms' intensities. Pass on this criterion.
(b) Media files - Great work providing images with concise captions scattered throughout the list, especially the visual of the Perfect Storm absorbing Grace! And since all the images are free use, no need to worry about non-free use rationales! That being said, I would like to see a satellite image or track of Tropical Storm Danny somewhere in the article. Also, what is the rationale for some storms having satellite imagery but others having tracks?
6. Stability - Looking through the edit history, I notice that most of the edits from the past month are revisions that you have made, several of which are in response to the feedback Drdpw and others gave above. This page seems satisfactorily stable for a FL.
I will offer my formal support once all of my concerns have been addressed. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I wish you and Flux55 the best with this process. AndrewPeterT ( talk) ( contribs) 01:55, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply
I note with great sadness and disappointment that my co-nominator, Flux55, turned out to be a sockpuppet and has been blocked indefinitely. I am still able and willing to address any feedback for this nomination, and I hope this can still pass through the FLC process. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 23:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Per MOS:PSEUDOHEAD, the use of ";" to make psuedo-headers is not acceptable. It's ironically fixable in two opposite ways: either make them actual headers (e.g. ====June 1====), or make them actual bold text (e.g. June 1), but the semicolon is for a list thing that you're not actually doing, which messes up screen-reader software. -- Pres N 04:39, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Source review passed; promoted. -- Pres N 21:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply
The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot ( talk) 00:26, 16 March 2024 (UTC) [1]. reply
Timeline of the 1991 Atlantic hurricane season ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Toolbox |
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This timeline was created by Flux55, a promising new user who has already done a lot of good work. 1991 was a quiet year for Atlantic hurricanes, but don't tell that to anyone in New England! Hurricane Bob caused extensive damage and over a dozen fatalities when it scraped up the East Coast and plowed into Rhode Island at Category 2 strength—it's still the most recent New England hurricane landfall. Also of note was the infamous Perfect Storm, which became a large, powerful, and damaging nor'easter after it ate Hurricane Grace for dinner... and then itself became a hurricane before making landfall in Canada as a weakened system! I'm proud of the work Flux and I put into this, and we look forward to the community's feedback. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 00:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply
Comments by AndrewPeterT
Hello, Dylan! This is Andrew444 from Wikia! It is so nice to see you again after all these years still interested in tropical cyclones! Anyway, I am going to do my best to evaluate this list for featured criteria. I would ask that other comments elaborate on the points I bring up wherever possible:
1. Prose - I appreciate that there is plenty of meteorological jargon appropriately used in the timeline, yet the language remains accessible for everyone. I also see no obvious grammatical errors, and the page "feels" objective and encyclopedic when I read it. I would also like to offer the following content-related feedback:
2. Lead - I defer to another editor on whether or not the first few paragraphs satisfy the fine print of WP:MOSLEAD. However, I can say that the page nicely includes the "standard explanatory text" for hurricane season timelines. I also really like how the second paragraph summarizes the major impacts of Hurricane Bob and the 1991 Perfect Storm. That being said, I do have the following feedback:
3. Comprehensiveness -
(a) In general, the page does a great job describing when each tropical cyclone "changed" Saffir-Simpson scale categories and made landfall. Pass on this criterion.
(b) I do not see any statements that must be cited per WP:MINREF. However, I would like to contest the following claim made in the timeline:
Tropical Depression Two makes landfall near La Pesca, Mexico with winds of 35 mph (55 km). Its only known barometric pressure measurement of 1,007 mbar (29.74 inHg) is taken around this time.
The corresponding cited source from the National Hurricane Center only states the 1007 mbar reading. It never says this reading was the only measurement taken from the depression. Could either another source be found for the latter sentence or the latter sentence be removed altogether?
(c) I will defer to other editors on whether this page meets the criteria of WP:STANDALONE and WP:CFORK. That being said, I can say that while some large chunks of language do seem to be very similar to other Atlantic hurricane season timelines (e.g. that of 1992), I can tell that the specific wording is customized specifically for the 1991 season. Finally, because of how much specific detail is present about formations, dissipations, and other key events of all the storms, I would argue content would be lost if we tried to merge the timeline into the general season article. With that, I say pass on this criterion.
4. Structure - I greatly appreciate the consistent layout of the timeline. Readers like me can easily follow along as the days and months of the 1991 season progress. Pass on this criterion.
5. Style - I defer to other editors on whether your work fully meets the criteria of the WP:MOS. However, I can say the following:
(a) Visual appeal - I am happy to see the lack of red links. Also, the visual timeline, like it does on other WP:WPTC articles, provides a great and simple color-coding scheme for readers to digest and visualize different storms' intensities. Pass on this criterion.
(b) Media files - Great work providing images with concise captions scattered throughout the list, especially the visual of the Perfect Storm absorbing Grace! And since all the images are free use, no need to worry about non-free use rationales! That being said, I would like to see a satellite image or track of Tropical Storm Danny somewhere in the article. Also, what is the rationale for some storms having satellite imagery but others having tracks?
6. Stability - Looking through the edit history, I notice that most of the edits from the past month are revisions that you have made, several of which are in response to the feedback Drdpw and others gave above. This page seems satisfactorily stable for a FL.
I will offer my formal support once all of my concerns have been addressed. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. I wish you and Flux55 the best with this process. AndrewPeterT ( talk) ( contribs) 01:55, 18 February 2024 (UTC) reply
I note with great sadness and disappointment that my co-nominator, Flux55, turned out to be a sockpuppet and has been blocked indefinitely. I am still able and willing to address any feedback for this nomination, and I hope this can still pass through the FLC process. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 23:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Per MOS:PSEUDOHEAD, the use of ";" to make psuedo-headers is not acceptable. It's ironically fixable in two opposite ways: either make them actual headers (e.g. ====June 1====), or make them actual bold text (e.g. June 1), but the semicolon is for a list thing that you're not actually doing, which messes up screen-reader software. -- Pres N 04:39, 7 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Source review passed; promoted. -- Pres N 21:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC) reply