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The result was keep. czar 04:31, 12 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Nicholas K. Miller

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It's unclear whether defensive MVP was officially awarded by the bowl game, or just from Ohio State as Liberty Bowl's website lists someone from Navy as the game's MVP. Neither this team recognition nor being inducted into a county hall of fame are enough for ANYBIO and I'm unable to find any other evidence he's notable. He does approach Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#College_athletes_and_coaches from anything I can find. Star Mississippi 18:23, 28 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Sportspeople, American football, and Ohio. Star Mississippi 18:23, 28 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• SIGCOV here. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 18:29, 28 October 2022 (UTC) reply
  • More SIGCOV here. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 18:30, 28 October 2022 (UTC) reply

    do you know @ BeanieFan11 whether WP:AUD relates to Biographies as well as N:ORG. While Ohio State has a national profile (Boo, go Irish! ;-) ), the coverage does seem fairly local. College athletes are fuzzy, which is also why I brought it here v. PROD. Star Mississippi 19:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC) reply

  WP:AUD is a subsection of Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) so no, it does not apply to people. I don't think there is any policy saying that local coverage can't count towards GNG for athletes (although sometimes for high school players non-local coverage is needed). BeanieFan11 ( talk) 19:20, 28 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Keep per coverage provided by User:BeanieFan11. This is more than sufficient for WP:GNG. Frank Anchor 20:07, 28 October 2022 (UTC) reply
• Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of sustained significant coverage. While there are two significant sources, they are from a span of 21 days which fails WP:SUSTAINED. If more sources are found, I'm more than happy to reconsider. Alvaldi ( talk) 21:13, 29 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Change to Keep with the sources found by BeanieFan11. We now have several significant sources from three different publications, spanning a few years. Alvaldi ( talk) 21:23, 6 November 2022 (UTC) reply
• The sources are a multiple weeks apart. That's sufficient for the intentionally vague definition of "sustained," as it is certainly far enough apart to not constitute a single "burst" of coverage. Plus notability is WP:NOTTEMPORARY. Frank Anchor 15:50, 31 October 2022 (UTC) reply

  I think we will have to disagree on that part as I can't in good conscience agree that two articles three weeks apart constitute as a sustained coverage. In my opinion, it was a brief burst of news due him performing well at the start of the season. Alvaldi ( talk) 19:29, 31 October 2022 (UTC) reply

• Delete Fails WP:GNG and per Alvaldi's reasoning. Had their been consistent coverage across the course of even a single season, then the coverage probably would probably constitute being sustained, but that is not the case. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 20:38, 31 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Legoktm ( talk) 03:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC) reply

• Comment sources given above seem ok-ish, that's it for sourcing? I can't find any others. If we had one more source it would help to show a more sustained coverage. 23:02, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
• Searching NewspaperArchive.com, there's also this piece of SIGCOV on Miller. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 18:28, 6 November 2022 (UTC) reply
  • This (also from the Delaware County Daily Times) may be sigcov as well. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 18:29, 6 November 2022 (UTC) reply
    • More sigcov from that paper here. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 18:31, 6 November 2022 (UTC) reply
• Weak Keep. The coverage from the Delaware County Daily Times, when added with the other two sources I listed above, are enough for a weak GNG pass IMO. One of the pieces from the DelCo Daily Times was from 1979, and they seem to have coverage of him across the 1981 season (plus there's the other coverage from that season from the Akron Beacon-Journal and Dayton Daily News), so I'd say that's enough to count as "sustained coverage." Pinging @ GPL93: @ Oaktree b: @ Alvaldi: to see their thoughts on the newly found coverage. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 18:37, 6 November 2022 (UTC) reply

  keep looks good to me. GNG is met. Oaktree b ( talk) 18:46, 6 November 2022 (UTC) reply

• keep Coverage provided by above voters could be enough to pass WP:GNG. Alimovvarsu ( talk) 23:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC) reply

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