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The result was delete. Closing as keep by strength of arguments, particularly as created by blocked sock. There are strong notability concerns. I see one strong argument for keep from a clearly uninvolved editor, but there are more numerous and stronger arguments for delete, so I so judge consensus. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 02:56, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Fela Akinse
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Non-notable businessman with questionable sourcing and awards, likely UPE/potential socking. I'd have draftified, but the draft was just redirected to this article. Star Mississippi 03:54, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Biology. Star Mississippi 03:54, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment courtesy @ JJMC89: who performed the redirect. Star Mississippi 03:56, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Nigeria. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:44, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:56, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Seems to the lots of passing mentions, profiles, several interviews and PR pieces that don't pass WP:SIGCOV for this ecoprenaur, whatever that is. Could be early days right, but at the moment it doesn't pass WP:BASIC. scope_creep Talk 14:11, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Despite the fact that this piece is contentious, the inventor seems notable. Isn't. JackFrost987 ( talk) 09:16, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep I have updated the article with cites. The inventor is notable
Robin499 (
talk) 13:58, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- can you please let us know how you found this article? Thank you! Star Mississippi 14:17, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:32, 31 January 2023 (UTC)- Redraft-ify, for glaring errors such as spelling: Nigeria as "nigeria", the United States as "united States". This needs clean up and isn't ready for prime-time yet. The person seems notable, but this reads like a resume/CV and has errors. The source links have no capitalization and there are grammatical mistakes throughout. Please do not take it from the draft state before it's ready to be published. Oaktree b ( talk) 03:40, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Did some clean-up and adjustment on the article as highlighted by Oaktree. He is notable. Epcc12345 ( talk) 21:05, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- In the first block of references, there is no secondary sources. There is a load of PR, a small X of Y article, which is also ref 8, two interviews, a press-release. There is nothing here, at all, that indicates notability. scope_creep Talk 12:40, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. I don't see consensus here and I have doubts about low edit accounts that show up at random AFDs to comment. I don't discount their opinions but, like I said, I have my doubts.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:47, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Comment There seems to be something seriously wrong with this Afd. Oaktree b is probably the closest in what is needed. I think this is the 3rd article in this series. I passed one out of Afc about a month ago, and it took about 8 goes looking at the references over a month to do it, and still wasn't sure, 100% sure its notable. I'll will examine the first blocks in a ref review when I come back shortly.
scope_creep
Talk 18:23, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, there's definitely some UPE happening and overlap with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Damola Ayegbayo (2nd nomination) where you and I both participated. Draft space would be fine. Star Mississippi 18:56, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- The editor has only 70 edits with two articles. It well structured, formatted and laid out, and supposedely referenced. It is quite odd. scope_creep Talk 09:29, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Lets examine the references:
- Ref 1 [1] Meet these folk. This a paid for PR it looks like with a profile attached to each.
- Ref 2 [2] This is an interview. It does states he has won several awards but they are mostly growth awards for business, essentially industry awards.
- Ref 3 [3] Another interview.
- Ref 4 [4] This is a passing mention.
- Ref 5 [5] This is straight up PR.
- Ref 6 [6] PR again.
- Ref 7 [7] Interview style PR.
- Ref 8 [8] Same content as ref 1. Paid PR.
- Ref 9 [9] 404
- Ref 10 [10] Profile. Growth platform for companies. You can signup if you meet the requirements.
- Ref 11 [11] Invited panelist.
These references are typical of entrepreneur coverage for a UPE article. There is a several interviews which are WP:PRIMARY, the PR coverage is non-rs as its not reliable and the profiles are non-rs as well as they not significant. It fails WP:SIGCOV. There is not a single WP:SECONDARY source amongst this first block, where is should be. scope_creep Talk 09:29, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Comment While the articles you list as "PR" are laudatory, there is no evidence that they are paid promotion. We should be careful and distinguish between those sources where we have proof that are actual press releases and those that use promotional language. In this case, I read the promotional language as praise and an expression of pride. If you have proof of actual press releases or paid content, then those sources could be eliminated. Lamona ( talk) 18:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. He is the co-founder of https://www.salubataofficial.com/ which won an award from Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. The President ( Muhammadu Buhari) of the continents most wealthy and populous country called on people to take note of him https://thenationonlineng.net/innovation-buhari-urges-youth-to-intensify-efforts, which seems like a big deal. CT55555( talk) 01:50, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
*Keep. Per above by CT55555, the subject meets
WP:BASIC.
TheGrandSon (
talk) 09:36, 13 February 2023 (UTC) sock blocked.
Star
Mississippi 15:45, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Changing vote due to COI and socking concerns. Shawn Teller ( talk) 01:41, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy delete as G5, content created by a sockblocked editor. Very clear evidence of other sock activity around this process, as mentioned by other contributors. If somebody wants to draftify these sources, they should do so soon, because despite various keep assertions, this page is clearly the COI workproduct of a blocked sock of a blocked sockmaster. BusterD ( talk) 23:22, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. For the reasons stated in the nomination. BoyTheKingCanDance ( talk) 02:18, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Closing as keep by strength of arguments, particularly as created by blocked sock. There are strong notability concerns. I see one strong argument for keep from a clearly uninvolved editor, but there are more numerous and stronger arguments for delete, so I so judge consensus. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 02:56, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Fela Akinse
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Non-notable businessman with questionable sourcing and awards, likely UPE/potential socking. I'd have draftified, but the draft was just redirected to this article. Star Mississippi 03:54, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Biology. Star Mississippi 03:54, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment courtesy @ JJMC89: who performed the redirect. Star Mississippi 03:56, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Nigeria. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:44, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:56, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Seems to the lots of passing mentions, profiles, several interviews and PR pieces that don't pass WP:SIGCOV for this ecoprenaur, whatever that is. Could be early days right, but at the moment it doesn't pass WP:BASIC. scope_creep Talk 14:11, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Despite the fact that this piece is contentious, the inventor seems notable. Isn't. JackFrost987 ( talk) 09:16, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep I have updated the article with cites. The inventor is notable
Robin499 (
talk) 13:58, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- can you please let us know how you found this article? Thank you! Star Mississippi 14:17, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:32, 31 January 2023 (UTC)- Redraft-ify, for glaring errors such as spelling: Nigeria as "nigeria", the United States as "united States". This needs clean up and isn't ready for prime-time yet. The person seems notable, but this reads like a resume/CV and has errors. The source links have no capitalization and there are grammatical mistakes throughout. Please do not take it from the draft state before it's ready to be published. Oaktree b ( talk) 03:40, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Did some clean-up and adjustment on the article as highlighted by Oaktree. He is notable. Epcc12345 ( talk) 21:05, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- In the first block of references, there is no secondary sources. There is a load of PR, a small X of Y article, which is also ref 8, two interviews, a press-release. There is nothing here, at all, that indicates notability. scope_creep Talk 12:40, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. I don't see consensus here and I have doubts about low edit accounts that show up at random AFDs to comment. I don't discount their opinions but, like I said, I have my doubts.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:47, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Comment There seems to be something seriously wrong with this Afd. Oaktree b is probably the closest in what is needed. I think this is the 3rd article in this series. I passed one out of Afc about a month ago, and it took about 8 goes looking at the references over a month to do it, and still wasn't sure, 100% sure its notable. I'll will examine the first blocks in a ref review when I come back shortly.
scope_creep
Talk 18:23, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, there's definitely some UPE happening and overlap with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Damola Ayegbayo (2nd nomination) where you and I both participated. Draft space would be fine. Star Mississippi 18:56, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- The editor has only 70 edits with two articles. It well structured, formatted and laid out, and supposedely referenced. It is quite odd. scope_creep Talk 09:29, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Lets examine the references:
- Ref 1 [1] Meet these folk. This a paid for PR it looks like with a profile attached to each.
- Ref 2 [2] This is an interview. It does states he has won several awards but they are mostly growth awards for business, essentially industry awards.
- Ref 3 [3] Another interview.
- Ref 4 [4] This is a passing mention.
- Ref 5 [5] This is straight up PR.
- Ref 6 [6] PR again.
- Ref 7 [7] Interview style PR.
- Ref 8 [8] Same content as ref 1. Paid PR.
- Ref 9 [9] 404
- Ref 10 [10] Profile. Growth platform for companies. You can signup if you meet the requirements.
- Ref 11 [11] Invited panelist.
These references are typical of entrepreneur coverage for a UPE article. There is a several interviews which are WP:PRIMARY, the PR coverage is non-rs as its not reliable and the profiles are non-rs as well as they not significant. It fails WP:SIGCOV. There is not a single WP:SECONDARY source amongst this first block, where is should be. scope_creep Talk 09:29, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Comment While the articles you list as "PR" are laudatory, there is no evidence that they are paid promotion. We should be careful and distinguish between those sources where we have proof that are actual press releases and those that use promotional language. In this case, I read the promotional language as praise and an expression of pride. If you have proof of actual press releases or paid content, then those sources could be eliminated. Lamona ( talk) 18:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. He is the co-founder of https://www.salubataofficial.com/ which won an award from Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. The President ( Muhammadu Buhari) of the continents most wealthy and populous country called on people to take note of him https://thenationonlineng.net/innovation-buhari-urges-youth-to-intensify-efforts, which seems like a big deal. CT55555( talk) 01:50, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
*Keep. Per above by CT55555, the subject meets
WP:BASIC.
TheGrandSon (
talk) 09:36, 13 February 2023 (UTC) sock blocked.
Star
Mississippi 15:45, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Changing vote due to COI and socking concerns. Shawn Teller ( talk) 01:41, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Speedy delete as G5, content created by a sockblocked editor. Very clear evidence of other sock activity around this process, as mentioned by other contributors. If somebody wants to draftify these sources, they should do so soon, because despite various keep assertions, this page is clearly the COI workproduct of a blocked sock of a blocked sockmaster. BusterD ( talk) 23:22, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. For the reasons stated in the nomination. BoyTheKingCanDance ( talk) 02:18, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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