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The result was keep.
✗plicit 12:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)reply
This athlete was selected to not one, not two, not three, but
four Olympics, albeit only competing at one. I would be stunned if such an athlete did not have significant coverage; alas, our ability to access sources from African nations like the Republic of the Congo is extremely poor...
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 13:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep, thank you for nominating the article because it gives us a chance to improve it. From what we know, the subject was a silver medallist at the
1981 Central African Games in the "main event" of athletics, the men's 100 metres. He almost won the gold, too, as he was assigned the same time as
Théophile Nkounkou. At the 1972 Olympics, his team didn't do so bad, as they ran sub-40 seconds twice and advanced to the semifinals. His silver medal makes him a clear
WP:NATH satisfier, meaning we can presume that coverage is likely to exist regardless of
WP:SPORTCRIT.
There are also signficant naming details to consider in this AfD. In short, the subject may have been named by any or all of the following in order of decreasing likelihood: Antoine Nkounkou, Antoine Ntsana, Antoine Kiakouama, Pierre Antoine. This is the number one reason why coverage is so difficult to find for the subject, while all of his Olympic peers are easily searchable. In
his profile at
Tilastopaja(registration required), he has Kiakouama's name and a matching DOB, meaning that some of Kiakouama's myriad achievements are likely attributable to the subject. We haven't even checked the Congolese papers for one of these names, let alone all four that would be required to invalidate
WP:NEXISTS. --
Habst (
talk) 14:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. Bingo! I found an in-depth article focusing on his life from the newspaper
Le'Patriote; it seems he died in 2017 and the article notes that "Antoine Ntsana Nkounkou is indisputable as one of the big names in Congolese athletics." This is sufficient to pass
WP:SPORTCRIT, which, in addition to his pass of
WP:NATH, is enough to keep this.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 15:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Do you know how reliable that source is? I agree it has depth.
Let'srun (
talk) 01:33, 11 February 2024 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep.
✗plicit 12:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)reply
This athlete was selected to not one, not two, not three, but
four Olympics, albeit only competing at one. I would be stunned if such an athlete did not have significant coverage; alas, our ability to access sources from African nations like the Republic of the Congo is extremely poor...
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 13:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep, thank you for nominating the article because it gives us a chance to improve it. From what we know, the subject was a silver medallist at the
1981 Central African Games in the "main event" of athletics, the men's 100 metres. He almost won the gold, too, as he was assigned the same time as
Théophile Nkounkou. At the 1972 Olympics, his team didn't do so bad, as they ran sub-40 seconds twice and advanced to the semifinals. His silver medal makes him a clear
WP:NATH satisfier, meaning we can presume that coverage is likely to exist regardless of
WP:SPORTCRIT.
There are also signficant naming details to consider in this AfD. In short, the subject may have been named by any or all of the following in order of decreasing likelihood: Antoine Nkounkou, Antoine Ntsana, Antoine Kiakouama, Pierre Antoine. This is the number one reason why coverage is so difficult to find for the subject, while all of his Olympic peers are easily searchable. In
his profile at
Tilastopaja(registration required), he has Kiakouama's name and a matching DOB, meaning that some of Kiakouama's myriad achievements are likely attributable to the subject. We haven't even checked the Congolese papers for one of these names, let alone all four that would be required to invalidate
WP:NEXISTS. --
Habst (
talk) 14:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. Bingo! I found an in-depth article focusing on his life from the newspaper
Le'Patriote; it seems he died in 2017 and the article notes that "Antoine Ntsana Nkounkou is indisputable as one of the big names in Congolese athletics." This is sufficient to pass
WP:SPORTCRIT, which, in addition to his pass of
WP:NATH, is enough to keep this.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 15:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC)reply
Do you know how reliable that source is? I agree it has depth.
Let'srun (
talk) 01:33, 11 February 2024 (UTC)reply
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