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Would a page listing recently moved articles, along the lines of our already existing logs, be technically possible? This would be a great help for admins cleaning up after move vandals. Rje 01:58, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
Final two days of the vote on Wikipedia:Template standardisation. Ends 23:59 on 01MAY05. Noisy | Talk 12:34, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
A proposal for edit summaries to be automatically filled in from the diff when the editor doesn't enter anything.
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I have been trying to populate the Category:U.S. history images (which was all but empty) and I was surprised to discover that the majority of images used in U.S. history articles had no category assigned to them at all. Thinking about it, I realized that there is no attempt whatever to get users to assign a category when the image is loaded.
Now granted, categorization is a can of worms not to be opened unwarily, but at least an initial gross categorization would seem reasonable and useful to grab at image load time. What I would propose is that the top level categories on the Wikipedia:List_of_images page be presented on the Special:Upload page either as checkboxes (so that multiple categories could be chosen) or, if space is an issue, a dropdown list from which one category could be selected.
Though this would hardly provide a complete solution to the image categoriztion problem, it would at least seem to make a starting point from which more specific categorization could proceed. It has to be a better method than looking for uncategorized images in every articles in a given area and adding cats one by one.
Of course, there is a very low tech solution-- using text in the instructions, something like:
but I think far more users would ignore the request, and/or screw up adding the text (omitting brackets, typos, etc., etc.,) so that the automated process would be worthwhile. -- Mwanner 22:28, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
I don't want to have to save the pictures onto my computer to be able to upload them. They should be able to be uploaded from the internet. It's so much of a hassle to have to save images for articles on my computer and then have to delete them later on because they take up too much space. - Stancel April 28,2005 17:49 (UTC)
The thing I'd like improved about image uploading is to enable more than one image to be uploaded at one time. Thryduulf 20:26, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
We should not make it easy for new users to upload images that are copyrighted. Keep it the same as it is. However, there are a few applications where this would be useful, so maybe make it hard to find, or limited to only users with special priveleges, or just put huge warnings all over and make them click three checkboxes that say they agree first... - Omegatron 23:12, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
I have a set of National Geographic 112 Years CD-ROMs and another set of National Geographic Maps. They include many pre-1923 NG photographs and maps. These public domain materials can be very useful if I have time to upload them.
See, these images are useful.
No, I don't have to time to see if this picture is useful to that article. So can we create a request page that allows someone with a special demand ask for other people's help?
Let's say I need a picture on page 33 of Nature magazine of March 23, 1876 (I made this up), I'll post a request. Maybe someday someone can get me that information. -- Toytoy 15:02, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
having returned I am rather distraught. this idea is so "out there", that I was actually hoping for someone to explain to me why it is bad. I have given it some though and there are some potential drawbacks. I have come up with few of these and they are so trivial I can't recall them now. the least problematic and most beneficial would likely be the first thing I suggested, the idea of a Wiki-based biography project. I still do like the other two though. while there may be some ramifications, In the end I feel the Wiki community could definately benefit. Wiki is becoming such a popular sensation these days that it would likely advance the fields for all of human kind. the art idea, while probably least practical, would also likely have the most impact. the visual arts especially have been falling into the background of society. it would likely help at leas to build and expand a wikibook or wikiversity course on the arts. I will have to investigate. but the bio thing has some serious potential!! MethodicEvolution 04:44, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
below I have made two crazy proposals: a Wiki-project that is a compendium of biographies and also one that is geographical, including all kinds of useful population, demographic, seizmic, and whatever information about a location will be posted.
two individules have provided rebuttle, but niether appears to carry much weight. origionally, my proposal was for a biography project in order to expand on wikibiographies(Wikiraphies/Wikiographies)while at the same time taking some of the pressure off of Wikipedia. upon later consideration, I though a geographical or atlas type project sounds like it has some potential as well.
now, while I am making zainy proposals I figure I might as well add another. It would be interesting to have an entire opensourced compendium of art ect. and even artists (or links to their biographies) there could be visual and auditory bits and pieces as well as information. this sounds odd at first, I must say. espeically when various other mediaWiki projects already serve the purpouse. it just seems that if a whole tier were set aside for art, it would grow more then that subject does in this system. biographies, geographies, and maybe even art could be given some special attention while clearing space and navagational integrity for more scholastic material here in Wikipedia.
I realize that people naturally fear change, and that traditions and habits run deep here in the Wiki community. I am one of an apparent few who has conquered the fear of change and in fact prefer it these days. something new is quite often better then what came before. it seems at least possible that the wiki community and the system as a whole could benefit from and even be enriched by such a dramatic change. it is also possible that such a change could be absolutely detrimental, but I just can't see that too well.
in any case, such a change would inevitably require a great deal of effort and even skill on the part of wikians, namely the administrator class of us. this is another factor to take into consideration, but it may just be worth it. . .
again, I am open to refutations from as well as the support of my fellow wikians. for more detailed conversation, please contact me on my user talk page. otherwise, please free your speech here. . . MethodicEvolution 04:52, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think a new wikimedia project should be implimented to house biographies. something akin to "wikiography" would suffice.
I have noticed that there are a great many biographies on wikipedia. in fact, when I press "random page" I have (believe it or not) never ever gotten anything other then biographies! I will assume this is due to a predominance of biographies here. now, I do think it is important for wikians to produce and post biographies, I just don't think it's appropriate for an encyclopedia to be dominated by them. . . it would be nice if they could all be nicely collected in a biography project. I may expand later on this proposal, but any other suggestions or remidies or even stark contradictions are quite welcome. . . (ME) (about 2 hours before his post. . .)
I do agree with this notion now that you mention it, but. . . as far as I can tell, this would indeed be the case if they were collected into a 'Wikiography'. it seems that links between wikimedia projects are not uncommon. I would even emphasize a collective attempt to interlink two such wikimedia projects. in fact, with the growth of projects such as 'Wikibooks' and it's sub-project 'Wikiversity,' and even 'Wiktionary' or is it 'Wikitionary', and others. . . I would emphasize an attempt to interlink all thiese things. MethodicEvolution 08:40, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) (ME)
yes, this was simply an idea. if it is the continued subject of widespread dispute and rejection, I will subdue. I would though like to clarify my position. I am in favor of biographies, but see the wiki system as a whole. I did an expreiment tonight and tested the frequency response of the random page link I indeed came to the linked article by way of some odd forces. I still contend though that a significant portion of the articles here are biographies and it would be nice to see them all collected into their own tier for growth and expantion. I am a major advocate of organizing information into more expandable, digestable, and navigatable patterns. I reject the notion of Wikipedia as a "normal" encyclopedia. it just seems to me that if one category such as biographies becomes predominant, then maybe it should branch off. also, in this way they would not only clutter this space less, but in their new home could expand into a more complete and diverse (and yet specific) project. it is likely in fact that such a project branch would grow extremely fast, allowing wiki-based biographies to grow even faster then they are here. I am simply suggesting that a collection of biographies may have more use as just that then as an addition to this. also, links between biographies and wiki articles could be maintained and any misplaced entries, much like those moved to the dictionary project, could be moved to the biography project. (I am very tired, nearly 3:00AM here) MethodicEvolution 09:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
in addintion, another interesting idea would be a geography project, or an atlas. a wikilas. . . though possibly a less notable proposal MethodicEvolution 09:59, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The Wiki-based biography is hot hot hot. Send 12 year olds into retirement homes and hospices to document the wisdom within, and otherwise lost. Notables and less-notables alike may enjoy dropping their little tidbits into an open-source info-bank like this. Let me know where you go with it, I'll point it out to people. TTLightningRod 18:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
I would like to suggest the new wikiProject Ports. with infoboxes and categories and simply expand the whole subject. Since i find there is no article on the biggest port in the world: Port of Shangai The Article Port of Singapore is a good guidline to start but it would need to be expanded too. Mexaguil 23:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
There are quite a few articles in the main namespace with block compression errors on them. Given that we don't want these pages at all (and particularly not when there might be articles to go instead) I think we could move them out of the main namespace (perhaps into a subpage of VfD?) and delete the redirects. This frees up the main namespace nicely. What do people think? Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 18:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
What do you think about that? - Stancel
It is oxymoronic Mexaguil 00:02, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I mainly reside in the new articles area where I find that nearly every single anon contribution either must be deleted/reformatted/wikied/blanked and redirected - or sent to potential copyright violations. This sorting/work is tedious and overwhelming because of volume and the few editors who seem to be doing this. The volume of anons is so overwhelming that there is no opportunity for me to regularly check the articles of those created by red-link registered users. Occassionally I do check and often find the same problems. If an edit count was included next to the names of all contributers in RC and new articles then I would have a good tool for discerning what work to check - we have limited eyes, we need to rely on these indicators.
Also - Another idea: What about granting admins the power to insert a red dot next to a name that has been warned for malicious vandalism? (hello, does this work? would be spared but sophmoric "David s a big farter!!!" clowns, unlikely to ever contribute anything of value, should be marked for quick examination after edits. Lotsofissues 07:33, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
(Discussion was moved to Talk:Twix) — Sean κ. ⇔ 03:31, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
As per a discussion on IRC, there are plenty of people who vote keep on WP:VFD with the reasoning that there is the potential for an article to be encyclopedic—even Brilliant Prose—even though the article that currently exists there is in serious need of cleanup, and frankly, is usually downright awful. Then the VfD is closed, the article is kept, and nobody touches it ever again. (Disclosing biases: I am an eventualist, but an impatient one!) So I'd like to propose Wikipedia:Article rescue contest, to encourage people to actually put their money where their mouths are and do something when they say an article topic has potential. I'll even kick in for a WP coffeemug or something for the winner and do a writeup for the Signpost. Anyone else think this is a good idea? Come on over and help me get it started. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 00:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I apologize in advance for the self-promotion, but I recently came up with a couple new wiki project ideas. Of course, I really don't know if these ideas are realistic or worthy of even becoming projects, but I just wanted to let everyone know about them and perhaps comment about them on their respective talk pages so I can either refine the proposals or decide that they're not worth pursuing. They are follows:
Thanks in advance for your comments. — Stevie is the man! Talk | Work 19:50, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The name WikiLife101 is too US-centric. I don't understand the second suggestion. r3m0t talk 23:48, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
I couldnt think of a better name. The template may need improevement. -- Cool Cat My Talk 11:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, there is no English language post on USACOM. I've been following links from a Slate article ( http://slate.msn.com/id/2117172/fr/rss/) and have come across a bunch of U.S. acronyms that I have know idea about.
USACOM is one, ATK is another. ATK kicked me off their site as I wrote this to ensure security, hence they scare me.
I'd love to see you guys post something on the above.
The DARPA entry is fantastic,"ARPA was its original name, then it was renamed DARPA (for Defense) in 1972, then back to ARPA in 1993, and then back to DARPA again on March 11, 1996."
Love the work that is done here.
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Halló! I spend a lot of time that most of the disambiguation templates listed at de:Bild Diskussion:Logo Begriffsklärung.png#Vorlagen - Templates should use commons:Image:Disambig.png. The image should give an indication about the nature of the page and avoid linking between "normal" articles and disambiguation pages. I would be very happy if en: would use one of the images listed in that page. 75% of the 60 listed templates using such an image you can find also ja:Template:Aimai, ka:თარგი:არაორაზროვნება, vi:Template:Trang định hướng etc. Best regards Gangleri | Th | T 06:17, 2005 Apr 23 (UTC)
I like the image, but until the image server overload problem is resolved it shouldn't be added to such a massively-used template. violet/riga (t) 11:25, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
When we get new servers, can we have a contest to design the new icon? It's always so much fun. — Sean κ. ⇔ 03:41, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'd noticed this on other languages' disambig templates, and like it a lot. -- Tetraminoe 06:27, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
The discussion needs of wikipedia are abundant - this edit page format is ungainly in its extra technical barrier to newbies and also slow loading. A php forum site would spurn not only useful discussion but would immeasureably help other members introduce themselves as chit chat would be encouraged. I can understand if the community wouldn't want policy discussion divided across sites, but how about just an explicitly limited chit chat function? Has it been done? Well if not I'll volunteer to buy the domain and setup the board. Is there any interest?
Lotsofissues 13:09, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
That would be useful, but talk pages do most of that. Howabout1 18:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Somebody could create a Yahoogroup for Wikipedia discussion, but there would probably be disagreement as to who could moderate it. Rick K 23:38, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
Please contribute to Wikipedia:Poképrosal, a proposal on merging stubs on individual Pokemon characters into comprehensive lists.
The United Kingdom general elections are approaching. Considering the popularity and content growth which has resulted from high-interest topics such as the Pope, should we consider having a project to make Wikipedia the definitive source for information relating to the UK general election, in general, and this year's in particular? The national and international interest created by a closely contested and highly charged election tends to get people talking about it, and people like to know what they're talking about (or at least seem to ;-). If the media picked up on the quality of our articles relating to the election, we could harness this interest to bring more readers, editors and content. I personally consider this a great way to combine making Wikipedia better with making the election more interesting, and thus meaningful for people, not to mention the importance of neutral information regarding politics. Here are some things we could do:
Any comments?
To improve the creation of redirects, can wiki release a list of all user queries that did not land into an entry? Lotsofissues 07:51, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I propose that we should remove "yet" from the sentence "Wikipedia does not yet have an article with this exact name." (see Mediawiki:Noarticletext). To me, this implies that we don't have the article now but we should have one. I suggested this at the talk page a couple weeks ago, but there wasn't much response. If anyone has an opinion, please share it at Mediawiki talk:Noarticletext. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Hi,
I am a scientist and find this website to be a great resource. But when searching scientific words that have nonscientific counterparts, you have to wade through large numbers of entries before finding what you are looking for. I propose establishing a separate scientific Wikipedia.
--B
Oh no, we couldn't possibly have a scientific Wikipedia... unless we're talking about Wikispecies, which isn't remotley more scientific that regular animal articles... - Munchkinguy 23:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
For anyone interested in the wiki forms of civil debate, concentrated think tanks, classical Greek and Roman "Forum", or other wikireason developments taking shape... please feel free to drop me a line. Although quite young and still developing, this project is intended to offer neutral structure for the incipient manifestations and conflict seen under almost any "discussion" tab. More so, the structure is a listing of current topics of sociological study and public policy, scientific logic process, and reasoned debate by pro/con weights and measures. Y'all gona love it!!! TTLightningRod 23:56, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Meatball has some very interesting things going on in terms of conflict resolution. Politeness, among just a few other things, seems to go a long way. Boldness is fine, but should be thin as possible when directing to a group or activity. Offering solution or suggestion instead of calling out the problem, becomes Herculean with positive results.
So those are some of the wikithink outputs to date. The comments below relate to my first winding (now in edit history). Oh, so painful for the reader, I do apologize. I wish to compliment all those I've met here. I'll be haunting wiki for years to come.
TTLightningRod 21:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The title of this list is just wrong.
Talk:List_of_people_known_by_one_name#Changing_the_article_title As someone has pointed out with "Christ" and "Jesus" being listed; people with single word pseudonyms are not known by one name — in fact, having a pseudonym often ends up with you being known by several names.
I propose this article be moved to List of people known by single word names or List of people who have names consisting of a single word ors oemthing similar.
Most people are known by only "one name".-- ZayZayEM 03:40, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Nobody has responded to this on the pages talk page. Hopefully this is okay to place here.
These people are not known by "one name", they are known by "one-word pseudonyms". Wikipedia should aim to have titles which actually reflect article content. I'm know in favour of a title akin to List of people known by single word pseudonyms-- ZayZayEM 08:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I like to make a proposal for someone to develop an apple OS 10.4 tiger dashboard widget that connects to wikipedia. I am not sure what politics are involved with developing such an application, but I believe that many people will use this and find it very convienent.
I would develop this widget myself and post it as an open source widget under a GPL if given the permission from wikipedia and obtain a copy of the operating system.
All the widget needs to consist of is the wikipedia title, a search bar to enter search requests, a language choosing system and a random page link. This widget would then be placed on the dashboard application for easy access.
Please someone begin working on this soon and post it some where for the general public; or give me the permission to start.
Thanks,
Fung
PS i can be reached at fung81@gmail.com for any questions, suggestions, spamming or communications
I think that Template:Flux was a good idea...Old Text:
This article is in a state of Wikipedia:Flux due to recent heavy editing. Therefore, the article may temporarily appear disorganized.
although I would say something like
This article is in a state of Wikipedia:Flux due to recent heavy editing. Therefore, the article may temporarily appear disorganized or have factual errors.
and I think that perhaps it should be reinstated? — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 16:28, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Not highest priority, but it would be nice to have a switch between ascending/descending order on the list so that you can see what is your nth edit (w/ numbering etc.) — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:40, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sorting on different fields, multiple find criteria, switch on sorting order -- all nice bells and whistles. When the time comes, I want them all -- in a to go cup, with Xmas lights on. — Xiong 熊 talk 05:50, 2005 Apr 20 (UTC)
Either way, it would be nice to see at a glance how many contributions I have made. Perhaps a number at the top, like how on my watchlist it says how many are being watched. CoolGuy 04:15, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Moved to Wikipedia:Village pump (perennial proposals).
I am a newcomer to this project. I find that many pages have a lot of useless links to very generic pages. For instance, on this page The_Life_and_Times_of_Scrooge_McDuck which is about the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck (a comic-book series), you have a link to the world gold, because gold is mentioned in the page. The page on gold explains that gold is a chemical element in the periodic table. This is pointless, just like adding a link to every single word in a page in case we don't know what's a chair or a boat. This is just one of many examples in many pages. Useful links are sometimes lost in a sea of un-needed links. I don't know if these links are generated or manually updated, but I suggest to be much more strict in adding them and on-topic.
I have been thinking about a new category, but I don't want to add it to Wikipedia before having consulted my brethren here. There are now many <year> births and <year> deaths categories. I personally think that <date> births and <date> deaths (for instance September 5 births and July 15 deaths) could be added to Wikipedia as well. It would be less bothersome than the categorization by year, since there are only 365 days to categorize, while thousands of years have now been categorized. What do you think of this? Aecis 18:58, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
I think that there should be some way for people to upload Flash movies onto Wekipedia. Or can it be done already? - Flamedude 7:38 May 17, 2005
The Random page function unfortunately leads to countless stub articles about high schools, obscure bands and not-VIPs. A feature where one could exclude articles smaller than a user-defined limit would be very nice. Ultramarine 10:32, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
What? Another useless server-breaking image? -- Toytoy 02:54, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
Considering the size of the Village Pump (some of which is due to lack of maintenance), I'm wondering if maybe we should reorganize it in a way similar to how VfD has recently been organized. The "Main page" of the pump would have only the introductory paragraph, the table of and links to the different sections and the table of "where else you might want to look for answers." It could also (maybe) have a short paragraph about how to maintain the pages, including the part about how any editor can do it. Thoughts? Comments? Soundguy99 18:00, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough. Up until, what, a week ago? the "standard" VfD main page that you got when you clicked "Deletion" at the top of the Recent changes page was a whole week's worth of votes and comments; it was huge and took forever to load. Then somebody reorganized it so the main VfD page is just a basic introduction/how-to with sub-pages for each day. This is much easier and faster, IMHO.
So, right now, we have a similar issue at Village pump. The standard "main village pump page" ( Wikipedia:Village pump) that you get to from everywhere has weeks' worth of comments from 6 different sections; it's huge and takes forever to load. This is annoying if a user just wants to browse. So the idea is that the " Wikipedia:Village pump" page would only have the current intro paragraph and the existing table - actual posts and comments would only appear on the appropriate sub-page, not the main V.P. page. The main V.P. page would be only a "directory" page, or a "map" page, as SV| t put it.
So, yes, it would be very much like Wikipedia:Village pump sections that Smoddy mentioned above. I didn't even know that existed until just now (thanks, Smoddy.) The issue is that getting to Village Pump from Wikipedia:Community portal or Wikipedia:Recent changes plops you down at a very large and slow page, which is probably disconcerting/annoying for many users, especially newer ones.
Having (hopefully) clarified my proposal, let me just comment on SV| t's additions:
Thanks for listening, Soundguy99 07:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
I noticed this policy ( Wikipedia:Neologism) was not linked to the village pump so I thought I would bring it here to vote on it. Falphin 00:24, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
FWIW:
Soundguy99 08:25, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
Te title of the page Medical Marijuana should be changed to Medical Cannabis. Not only does it reflect the proper terminology, it also avoids the use of what is a POV slang word whih was adopted (in the English Language) by agencies agaist the legal use of the substance to evoke a rather racist connotation with the drug. While it may have been subsequently more widely adopted, it is preferable to use the word Cannabis. Dainamo 00:19, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
Inspired by [[category:YEAR births]], I would like to know if it will be a good idea to categorise people according to day and month of birth, for instance, Bill Clinton be categorised to category:August 19 births. — Insta ntnood 16:47, May 13, 2005 (UTC)
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Hi, why doesnt wikip include dynamic info For example, I came to Wikip just now looking for the current local time in Washington. I was surprised this info wasnt on the page. This is where wikip really can be different from printed media. city pages could even show the current weather company specific pages could show the current share price
Hamish Hutton
I think that we should have a directory format in Wikipedia that would make surfing/browsing much easier. Something like Google's directory ( http://directory.google.com) or the German language Wikipedia ( http://de.wikipedia.org) would be a great setup. Tell me what you think. clarkefreak
i just wanted to tell you that i found e small error on the latin phrases page. it's actually AUDACES FORTUNA JUVAT...not AUDENTIS FORTUNA JUVAT I hope you will take apropriate measures. Thanks
I've created a trial multiple choice quiz. Is there a project running on this matter?
You can try my experiment here: Animal Farm Quiz
Fortinbras 08:40, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone capitalise the "search" "toolbox" and "in other "languages" headings in the left hand column? 17:13, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
Apologies if this has been discussed before.
I am not a html programmer, nor do I have any skills in creating web pages. I have skills as a writer, and I also am experienced in how to make and edit Wikipedia pages. The problem is that my User Page has essentially become my home page. Realising this about 4-5 months ago, I purchased my own web domain with the intention of using Wikimedia as the way to create my own web pages. Problems ensued - my ISP doesn't support LAMP for hosting and another hosting organisation were willing to do it, but I would be responsible for setting up and maintaining the Wikimedia software. Easy for some, but too much work for me.
And then the idea came to me this morning - why don't I approach Wikipedia and ASK if I can purchase my own home page? It would mean that I would be using the Wikimedia engine already running and being maintained by Wikipedia, but would have my own space to "do my own thing", including the posting of copyrighted information.
And then of course the idea went out further. Wikihome - a wiki-based home page organisation, or even Wikiblog. The idea being that anyone, especially Wikipedia contributors, can have their own little "space" on Wikipedia that they can call theirs. I, for one, would be more than willing to pay for it. Many people pay for their own websites, so they would be happy to pay Wikipedia for the right to have their own wikispace - a page that can ONLY be modified by the user and anyone that he/she has given the password to. Obviously there would be limits, including Mb, but there naturally would be a pricing system that would cope with it.
And the great thing is that this system can be used as a potential revenue stream for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is so big now, and has so many contributors, that "Economies of scale" could make it very profitable - which, of course, is channeled back into Wikipedia.
The advantages for people like me (and others who might be interested) are as follows:
Advertising is simple. A small ad would appear on every page of Wikipedia, including the front page. Since the advert is for a Wikipedia-based activity, it should not be classed as "corporate advertising" as such. Users would then click on it and find out about Wikipedia's hosting services. Stern-but-friendly messages would also be sent to users like myself who have gobbled up a bit too much of Wikipedia's space for their own ends, telling them to either reduce the size of the user page or purchase space on wikihome/wikiblog for a very competitive price.
The cost for Wikipedia itself would be minimal. Essentially the exact same software is used, although users would have security measures in place to prevent others from modifying their wikihome/wikiblog page.
I would, for one, be willing to pay Wikipedia for my own "Wikihome" page. Anyone else?
-- One Salient Oversight 00:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
A whole new nanespace for all the game stuff that seems to have significance for our gamers. There is quite a lot of material that could be assigned to that game namespace. And it could have its own peer review regs which may be more inclusive than the traditional WP protocol. I'm not speaking about traditional games such as checkers, fish, or chess. I'm speaking to computer games which have fervant followers with obscure characters and conections which are in vogue at this time (AD 2000 or so). The third cousin of a famous fighter who is being held in reserve fot the next episode may be an important article in Wikigame but of less relevance in Wikipedia proper. Comment here or on our User talk page. I just would like to know if I'm off th wall on this concept. hydnjo talk 04:03, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Fancruft and Wikipedia:Fiction and their talk pages discuss these issues and possible solutions in some detail. jdb ❋ ( talk) 14:41, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
More elitism. Rick K 22:04, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
Discussion moved to Wikipedia:Village pump (perennial proposals).
It's pretty easy.
Click on Random Page and then try to get to Kevin Bacon. My best is three clicks.
The site R3m0t is looking for is The Oracle of Bacon. Rick K 05:19, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
Also try Kate's Six Degrees of Wikipedia. Jesus to Freebase in 5 hops, Autofellatio to Pope John Paul II in 4. — Teknic Talk/[[Spe cial:Emailuser/Teknic|Mail]] 06:55, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
It would be nice if known vandalizers had some sort of mark next to there name on the recent changes page and the new pages list. That way, they would be easy to single out and remove any further dammage that they did. -- Happyfeet10
For a run-of-the-mill quarterly vandal such as this (has he bee banned by now?) - the system would be perfect. If it's your 50th time vandalizing the site, you might become tired of addressing everyone as "pigfuckers" or end with a histrionic 6 exclamations. These users would fall under the radar of the already proposed and proposed before vandal countermeasures. A system that identifies almost all vandalism must include this feature. Lotsofissues 14:18, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure this is the best place to post this, but back at the Technical page they told me we should vote. Beautiful democracy :-)
So: the word Śiva is widely used. It is important in Jung's works, religion, symbolism, Hinduism-, Psychology- and Mythology-related articles.
The problem is that the proper transliteration of the hindu word is Śiva, and throughout Wikipedia it is sometimes spelled as Shiva and sometimes as Siva, in the same article, making it a whole mess. It would be a minor problem, but it extends to saivite / shaivite, sivaya / shivaya, saivism / shaivism, saiva / shaiva. The number of articles which mention these movements, groups, philosophies are too widespread to be corrected by a single person.
So, the options are Ś, sh and s. Proper redirection pages would be created, but we need an agreed standard. Your opinions?
Then we have a consensus (habemus consensam! :-) ): Shiva it is. I appreciate all who helped us on this.
I propose a new deletion page: Wikipedia:Stub messages for deletion WP:SfD, similar to WP:TfD and WP:CfD. Now, some will see this as m:instruction creep, but on the other hand, I (and others) think that it would be worth it. Right now the WP:WSS discovers stub templates at an alarming rate. Since we have an interest in keeping the stub system as clean, lean and straightforward as possible (it's already pretty baroque), we usually discuss deletions, then send the stub template on WP:TfD and the stub category on WP:CfD, meaning three votes and double the discussion time (to make the situation worse, the last two votes depend on each other). Most of the time, concensus is already established by the WSS, and it seems as most other people on the deletion pages don't care much about stubs. However, all that stubcruft (© User:snowspinner) is bloating the two fD pages. If we had one page, where we "vote" (I know...) on stub deletions alone, we could cut out a lot of overhead and focus the people who really care about stub templates (i.e., the WSS). We'd need a proper policy for stub deletion nominations, but writing one is not really a problem. So: Is this useful, or is it a bad idea? -- grm_wnr Esc 16:01, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
No need at all for this. It duplicates the process at
Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria#Proposed stub deletions, which is a far more appropriate place for decisions to be made about what stub messages should exist and which should be deleted. --
Netoholic
@ 01:45, 2005 May 7 (UTC)
It should only have to be discussed once, whether it be at tfd, cfd, or sfd; besides avoiding useless redundancy, this'll prevent absurd situations where the category is deleted and the template kept (as looks to be happening now). Note that the process at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria#Proposed stub deletions doesn't have delete authority at present; sfd, in essence, is a proposal that it should. Both the template and the category should have a marking that it's being considered for deletion, in any case, and just all point at the same page. — Korath ( Talk) 23:03, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
Well... that was my original intention behind Wikipedia:Deletion of useless stub templates and stub categories. Still in a draft format... no one bothered to improve on it or whatever.... -- AllyUnion (talk) 01:15, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
The tone of a big wiki chinese word project for en or de or fr readers should take a very fun tone. I think a nice idea is to key to Peng's Chinese Treasury published by Heian out of Singapore to get the idea of it. It just has to be fun, 'cos that's what they are. Fun. I could certainly be a permanent member of a committee to continue writing this material. There should be some kind of sandbox-like area to allow the initial ridiculous sounding material to be viewed by all of wiki. I don't know myself how that would work. There is just so much anecdotal support evidence to create the bases of understanding involved, and these words are always talked about in terms of "I think this one might look like..." or "Does this one look the same to you..." or "I don't think you see what I see." That last one is a quote from Soulside of Dischord Records. There is usually some amount of liberality involved in actually getting to these books, and in my experience romance and moderate amounts of beer or wine have been involved, along with coffee, and even tobacco products, for those who occasionally smoke. Romance in my estimation is a usual upcrop of getting involved in Asian words. It is fun, in other words, and it engenders other fun activities. And under this fun umbrella is it only possible to get to the serious political issues involved, including various characterizational differences between Confucianism and Western religios attitude, and any other hot pepper that might present itself during the course of the fun. There is a lot of back and forth involved, between Ming vases and Conan O'Brien, between Stonehenge and Sailor Moon. It is so interesting. One develops an emotional ability one didn't have before, like learning how to eat peppers, or like guitar players have calluses. The course of thought trends to the group and it trends to the individual. The greatest bug bear is cliche, and realizing how much cliche is involved in our thoughts. One naturally develops a comical attitude to such constructs, and ends up talking and thinking more like Bob Dylan and stand-up comedians than one did before one started. Europe becomes one giant interesting yet newly homogenous place.
If I could offer one suggestion it would be to write En Han material and to forego theorizing, as a time-sink issue. That would be the reason to have a sandboxy place to put the incredibly varied Wikis that would be written about HanEn.
This project direction seems to me to be a central WikiObjective. I hope each and every single one gets in touch with this material. A man once said that each one is like a friendly face.
McDogm-- 152.163.100.66 07:56, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, this is a joke or a proposal translated into English using a bad internet translator. It sounds like a chatroom or message board. Munchkinguy-- 02:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
Ummm, translating this would mean a lot of work. It actually is a joke, but the Wiki community really needs a place to Hanify, w/o non-students being able to power-kibitz. What I mean is that Occidental culture is as sublime as Oriental culture if one considers Bob Dylan and J Church as being from the same place, artistically. And I am not sure how to take the challenge of not being able to use the on-line translator. It seems a bit heavy.-- McDogm 06:45, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
A: I can't imagine translating the above mega-paragraph to ZH at this point, but I can promise that I will continue to struggle with material such as J Church, Brain Failure, Sister Benten Grrl Bands, various precisii of material such as Don DeLillo, Thomas Pynchon, Italo Calvino and V.S. Naipaul, and stuff that is really Hanophilic such as Guided by Voices, NYPD Blue, Fugees, Seinfeld, WuTang, and the New England Patriots and San Francisco 49ers, as well as the normal geopolitical and scientific stuff that is so important. I would like to translate my proposal in its detail to anyone who seems interested, especially on Asian Wikis, but as a serious person it seems to me that working with accomplished writers like Lance Hahn of J Church and the guy from Brain Failure, and the partially En-ified punk groups Nonstopbody from Seoul and Hang On The Box from Beijing would be more efficient and more professional, from my standpoint. I mean, really, who needs another meta-sincere Asiapositive manifesto to be posted on the web? In a non-native language? It wouldn't make sense to me, the writer. It really boils down to a matter of being safe from non-students (of Han) in one's perambulation thru the workings of language, from an intercontinental viewpoint. Thanks for reading.-- McDogm 07:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
A week ago I proposed that we abolish personalized signatures. You hate it. Now I propose that we remove useless template icons.
Do we need so many templates? I guess most of them are needed. But do we need their icons? I guess not. These icons are bandwidth wasters. If you use a 33.6 kbps modem, you'll hate it. Even if you're using a T3 connection, I still don't think most of these icons would help you in anyway.
Wikipedia is supposed to be a reference site. It is not an artist's playground. So far I have seen icons possibly unrelated with the contents and many overformatted templates. What are we doing now? I suggest that we remove some icons and get rid of excess HTML tags. -- Toytoy 17:32, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
See meta:Image_server_overload_2005-03 (images have been removed from the very common templates) and Wikipedia:Template standardisation. violet/riga (t) 18:30, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This is a gratuitous image -- doubly gratuitous as I had not the first idea what was there when I entered the markup. It costs something to serve, something to load, something to display. It also relieves the eye dragging its way up and down this wasteland of text.
Before I came to this project, I thought I would never tire of telling users that too much eye candy is too much. I constantly get demands for Flash navigation bars and other offensive, broken sillyness. But this project enjoys the distinction of being visually dull in many places and slow to load.
We should raise more money, buy more servers, and hire more developers. We should be prudent in the use of images but not stingy. A picture is, famously, worth 1000 words. — Xiong 熊 talk * 03:26, 2005 May 16 (UTC)
I think we have enough members now to enforce this policy. No more IP edits, the problem with vandals and vanity is getting worse.
Hey. According to the WP documents you can only show the file size using the search function or if the page is more than 30kb long. Now that search doesn't work, is there any other way?
-- Fred- Chess 22:41, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Several of Wikipedia's articles on Presidents of the United States are getting quite big that I want to see if Wikipedia can do something with its info on the Presidents so that none of them can get big:
For each President, Wikipedia should have articles on the general biography ( George Washington,) the presidency specifically ( Washington Administration,) and whatever else is available that can be an encyclopedic article by itself. (Also, I want to see which of these is more logical on Calmypal's Presidents tempalate; a link to the general biography or a link to the presidency specifically.) Georgia guy 20:29, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
When an article is posted on the main page as the featured article of the day, it gets a lot of attention- which includes a stream of potential editors and improvement. Now, every article could use improvement, but why focus that power exclusively on articles we already feal are exemplary? Why not feature one article per day on the main page that needs the most improvement?
Instituting such a measure, it need not appear that wikipedia is bragging about bad articles like it braggs about its feature articles. The section of "Article needing improvement of the Day" need only be a small title in an inconspicuous place in the main page.
If wikipedia editors focus on one bad article a day, we may systematically improve the encyclopedia instead of simply waiting till enough people coincidentally happen upon an article to sufficiently improve it.-- Amanaplanacanalpanama 08:15, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
How about... creating a box on the main page called something like "Articles needing TLC", and putting links to five, erm, bad articles in there each day? That way maybe a visitor to the main page will see one of their pet interests listed as needing some work and...? Grutness... wha? 12:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
We already have the Wikipedia:Community portal which prominently displays articles in need of various types of attention. We do try to maintain something of a division between "prime time" content directed at readers and content directed at editors. Which is why the main page is supposed to be more polished. Even though any reader can potentially become an editor, I think I like things the way they are, even though the pages featured on the Community Portal often languish there for weeks. -- Beland 02:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I thinks there is too much skeleton visible in wikipedia its all very messy and a lot of technical stuff seems off putting to potentially useful contributors.
Suppose there is a clever way to hide all the works but still make it highly useable?
Would that be encouraging to more users?
Hi,
is there a possibility to extend wikitravel in a manner, that travellers can share their experiences with hotels, restaurants, tours etc.? It should be possibble to rank all the mentionned categories somehow and an average of the ranks should be dissplaied.
regards
Robert Meyer
I propose putting a time stamp at the top of the My Watchlist page showing the last time the page was refreshed. This will keep me and other Wikipediholics from refreshing it too often. - Rlw (Talk) 16:52, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
I visited the French Wikipedia, and I saw that each week, they invite wikipedians for a doing a certain task. This week it was putting categories XXXX births and XXXX deaths to every biographical article. I also suggest Interlangua week, Wikifying week, Disambig week... 500LL 07:11, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
How about creating a large database of possible occupations. I myself would like to create the medical field database featuring the three major occupations ( Human Medicine, Dental Medicine, and Veterinary Medicine) and all sub-fields in the three categories. Each database could be categorized alphabetically.
On Wikipedia, there are barely any 'dictionary' sections where one can look up what a term means. Check, for instance, the Scientific field of Linguistics. There's a lot of words that are really just confusing for a lot of folks there and I'd have to check (and perhaps Print if I were to use this information somehow) each and every one of those subjects just to get an Idea of what they're meaning there. It might be a good idea to instead construct an article with every kind of main term right there, either in the Wikictionary, such as (for linguistics), "Tense," "diacritic," and a lot of other terms. I'm not too sure, but I'd like something just to get me on track, and possibly the link for further understanding. There probably are some glaring issues, but it's just really annoying to read a great article, yet not know what really they're trying to say nor have a clue as to what that means for me on the other side and what exactly I need to know or do for any piece of paper for school/work that I might need to do by Monday. Please give feedback/ideas so I don't really make this a stupid trip to the store for nothing. PanzerArizona 03:10, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I edited your info because when you put a space before the first word on your info, it creates an ugly box.
-- Admiral Roo 03:57, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
I wonder, can we make a category of discography and put everyone's disography in it (such as Kylie Minogue's Discography) for a one-point reference?
68.169.113.246 Talk to me, 68.169.113.246 My contributions 68.169.113.246 19:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Their is a large happeing in my home County that has been in the news since Mother's Day. A church that is being calld a cult has surfaced after a man killed his wife in fron of their five youngest children by beating her to death with the butt of a rifle (the rifle malfunctioned and did not shoot). She reacently won coustody of the five children because she made alligations that the church is a cult, and feared for her life. Because of her winnings, the husband killed her, and not long after the murder the members of the church, including the Rev., came to protest the arrest of the husband.
Now where am I getting at? I propose that a community project be created for all to put their local news on the project page that did not make national or international headlines, and would not clutter Wikinews or Wikipedia's news section with minor news.
What do you think?
68.169.113.246 Talk to me, 68.169.113.246 My contributions 16:34, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This sounds like a perfect use of Wikinews. RickK 66.60.159.190 19:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Rick is right. Wikinews wants local news as long as it can be verified. Mgm| (talk) 16:32, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
I think that a new template should be created that says something like "It is requested that this page be locked to prevent further vandalism" to add to pages that have been vandalized to alert administrators to these pages and decide weather or not to protect that page. I also think that when this template is used, a category of "proposed pages to be locked" should be filled so admins can see all the pages that are proposed to be locked. This template should be used for non-admins so admins can make a decision to lock the topic(s) in question or not.
68.169.113.246 Talk to me, 68.169.113.246 My contributions 14:18, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Thryduulf.
I think these categories should be merged, but I am leaving that up to you all.
I agree, these categories should be merged. You could create a DSM-IV category of diagnoses and a category for the international diagnoses thingy (I can't think of the name). -- Joseph Wayne Hicks 21:42, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
That would be the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems by the World Health Organization
68.169.113.246 Talk to me, 68.169.113.246 My contributions 12:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I just created the Mental illness diagnosis by DSM and ISCDRHP category. If anyone has a better name to that category, pleas rename it.
Category mergers should be proposed on Wikipedia:Categories for deletion. Bot assistance may be available. -- Beland 02:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Anyone who's a frequenter of WP:RFC would have noticed that it's regularly a lengthy mess of old proposals, and most people only read the top few and comment on those (and watch them if appropriate). Presently, cleanup consists of copy/pasting a bunch of old ones to the archives whenever they get too long. Ideally, people unlist RFCs when they no longer apply, but in practice that rarely happens.
It would be useful to employ a bot to do this work. The process would be simple - once per week, examine all RFC entries and check when they were last edited. If they haven't been edited for two weeks, they can be archived, because that means the discussion has died (and, hopefully, been resolved).
An alternate proposal would be to have them time out one month after creation, on grounds that by that point, the discussion would have gone stale anyway.
Would anyone have a problem with this? It would make the page a lot more legible. R adiant _* 12:25, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
I often find the need to look up people, however, some people do not need an entire article dedicate to them. I propose having a wikibiography project for people. Also I think a Gazateer for geography would be great. If we already have these things, I apologize and ask for a hyperlink so I can find them.
Thank you. -- Joseph Wayne Hicks 06:44, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
Exactly what kind of people you mean? Famous people usually are worthy (or notorious) enough so that there is enough information at least for a short biography, which is definitely an article. - Skysmith 11:34, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
If you do a search for this girl's name, you get a ton of hits. Check out her article ( Katie Brownell) and see if you can find anything to add to it. I tried creating the article myself, but I am disappointed that no-one is helping out with more info. -- CGally81 00:46, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
There is some controversy here because of the area of the same name in Greece. However, to give a direct parrallel, the county of Luxembourg seems to attract no problems being listed as Luxembourg depsite being part of a larger historical area part of which remains as a province of Belgiam and is still called Luxembourg. The controversy created by Greece is a POV issues and something that has no place. I have no axe to grind but things shouold be consistent and thete is a lot of argument on the nameing of this county. Pandering to objections on Macedonia calling itself what it is, is itself POV. The most stupid idea is FYROM. Afterall we don't call the Ukraine FSURU! Call it Macedonia and have a disambiguation page or direction to the area in Greece. Dainamo 14:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Calling the controversy over the naming of this piece of land (that has never been called macedonia until the collapse of its last government into civil war) a POV is like saying that the Vietnam war was a POV issue. the term FYROM is meant to be stupid, it is a temporary title, it isn't supposed to be useable. the fact that both countries started massing troops on the border a few years ago over the issue is exactly why both the UN and the EU deem it important enough to rule against the provocation by not recognising the name Macedonia for the fyrom.
The subtle difference here is that the cosy (and borderless) interchange between the luxembourgs isn't contested by anyone - Georgia stopped aiming ICBMs at Georgia (in both directions) at about the same time that the eastern one became a country. But a load of former yugoslavs and a load of greeks could end up dead just because of the patriotic zeal that is stirred up by the use of this name Macedonia Wiki recognises partisan propoganda as a vfd issue - all well and good - but when it is about a current issue that potentially has peoples lives at stake leaving wikipedia's definition in direct contravention of the worlds highest diplomatic rulings and the stances of most national governments is crass negligence. DavidP
If it ain't broke... The current solution seems a fair compromise to me. Physchim62 08:16, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Could you please add an entry for 'Spawn'. It is a comic book by Todd McFarlane. http://www.spawn.com/comics/series.aspx?series_id=1
and was also made into a movie. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120177/
Once we upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5, could we have a bot to replace entity codes with characters? Susvolans (pigs can fly) 12:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
In the English wikipedia, I want to make the section on Romanian cities complete, by writing articles for listed cities that do not have them and editing existing ones, by adding information, etc... What I'm wondering though is, is it worth the effort?
It's worth the effort if you know about the cities. Wikipedia has room for everything. Howabout1 Talk to me! 02:03, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I post frequently on the dogsonacid.com Grid ( http://www.dogsonacid.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=4) which is a large forum devoted to the production of Drum & Bass, a style of electronic music. There are alot of threads on this forum that contain very useful information, but it's hard to get all of them in the same place. Recently there has been a discussion about making some sort of document containing all of the various useful posts that we are able to find on the grid. I think that using a wikipedia entry called "Drum & Bass production techniques" would be useful for this, but i don't know how well it would work with wikipedia's policy/purpose as it wouldn't be a direct encyclopedia article, but a collection of organized posts. I personally think it meshes with wikipedia's goal of compiling human knowledge, but i don't want all my hard work deleted for violating POV or something. please get back with some input on this idea.-- 69.162.177.145 01:59, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
-- Bart133 (t) 23:02, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
I don't think that's a good change at all. A vandal could replace the entire Talk page, or insert something pornographic, and they could just check the minor box, and you wouldn't know it had happened. rickK 66.60.159.190 19:06, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
A while back I began an article, saved it, edited some more, encountered a coundn't save due to conflict, checked it out, found someone had placed a {{ delete}}, after a discussion was informed of {{ inuse}}, problem solved.
I just read an account of a newbie's troubles spending time and effort and the next day finding his unfinished effort was all ready deleted.
I sugest promoting use of {{ inuse}}. Maybe automatically putting it on empty newly created articles. Or maybe some other way of promoting its use. 4.250.33.185 21:04, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
I just
I object to the inuse template because people tend to use it to mean "Only *I* am allowed to work on this page", and leave it there for days on end. RickK 66.60.159.190 19:05, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It is impossible to automatically format a date without creating link. This contributes a lot to overlinking.
For example, there are pages with 1000 links to the year 2000. I think that is overlinked. As a category, dates are the most excessively linked articles, as is shown by their ranking on the following lists:
Is it possible to have a 'create date object' that is independent of the 'hyperlink to other article' method? Bobblewik (talk) 16:33, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
I support this proposal. I agree that linking to dates is a generally cause of over-linkink. i think thjat shuch links, as links, are usually pointless, and should be removed if there were to be another way to apply date preference formmatting. I also think that most links to partial dates (D/month without year, or year alone) are already pointles, and i have started to remove them when I edit articles that have such links, although i don't go looking for them.
I have no idea if the proposal is technically hard or easy. I find it hard to belive that it is impossible. Note that instead of _10 Jan 2005_ we could have #Date(10 Jan 2005) if that were technically easier to implent. DES 22:07, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
How many articles would be left if one disregarded those with businesses and products as the titles? Should there be a way to label articles as such? Would a "proper" encyclopedia contain such articles? [Left by Anon. User 66.25.162.157 ]
Wikipedia articles are increasingly being linked to from external sites, including many gaming news sites and Slashdot. Obviously, enough people visiting these sites have very little respect for the Wiki Way, and this results in massive vandalism sprees and subsequent cleanups. In my opinion it would be very useful to have a sort of 'early warning' page that lists the articles that are currently receiving the most hits from links from external sources so that we may easily be more proactive in preventing vandalism. Please forgive me if this has already been suggested; I did look around, and didn't see anything to this effect. -- BratticusPsychosis 05:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
It appears that SVG cannot be supported by Wikipedia (Commons). Are there other vector graphic formats which can be supported on Wikipedia? And can we do something to improve the situation, to be able to share SVG and vector files? Yug 22:24, 28 May 2005 (UTC) I'm french, my english is still improving :)
SVG upload is disabled for security reasons (JavaScript...) at the moment. I have contriibuted code to the next version of mediawiki that will make it safe(er) to have SVG files, I hope uploading SVG will be enabled as soon as we go to 1.5 - that is, in a few weeks (hopefully) Until then, the only vector format supported by the commons is PDF, which is not a very good choice :( -- Duesentrieb 01:00, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Disclaimer - this idea may have been suggested before.
Pages such as UN redirect to United Nations, and pages such as EU redirect to European Union. It is almost always the acronym used in articles, but if there was a policy to pip the link, so that one would type [[European Union|EU]], then when the mouse was hovered over it, it would expand the acronym like so: EU. If you look at this page, the text underlined in blue dots has this property. Worth a try?--> Energy ( talk) 07:23, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
I made a template of the non-link hoverbox tags at User:Energy/Hoverbox. There are instructions of how to make it work on my userpage, if you feel the instructions aren't clear, feel free to adapt them.--> Energy ( talk) 06:43, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:Entertainment Collaboration of the week and the Wikipedia:Popular Music Collaboration of the Week should be brought back to life. They have become inactive, while so many important actors, directors and musicians have terrible articles. Look at Elton John, and Henry Fonda for example. The Music Collaboration should be open to all bands and musicians though, if brought back. -- Carolaman 23:40, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
There is a poll open on applying the guidelines at WP:FICT to articles on Pokémon characters at Wikipedia:Poképrosal#Poll: WP:FICT and Pokemon -- Carnildo 23:37, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
In browsing a few stub templates, it struck me that it might be useful to add to the notice that "this page is a stub" an external link to the Google search-results page for the term corresponding to that wikipedia page's title.
For example, in looking this morning at the wikipedia entry for National Sorry Day, I noticed the stub notice at the bottom: "This Australia-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." I wondered if it would be helpful to expand that to something like, "This Australia-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it, perhaps by performing a Google search on the phrase "National Sorry Day".
I guess the same suggestion could be made about any wikipedia article, not just stub pages. But it would seem especially helpful in the case of stubs. On the other hand, the construction of the external link would be subject to breakage in the event Google changed their search interface, and I suppose the singling out of a particular commercial search engine for a proposed "additional information" link like this could bother some people (like those who operate competing search engines, or who just don't want to see a community project like wikipedia tainted by affiliation with a particular commercial site in that way).
Anyway, I'm pretty new to wikipedia, and figure this probably has already been considered, but I was unable to find a mention of it in a quick search. I'm curious what people think about it. -- John Callender 18:39, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
I would suggest that a new section is added under the search box (above the toolbox) that allowed a person to search various resources for page name, including Wikipedia itself, Google and Yahoo. violet/riga (t) 14:36, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Every (sorted) stub already has a link to the category that contains of all the stubs that have the same topic-specific tag. These are in turn members of Category:Stub categories. There's no need to go to Google, which in any case would have an outdated list. Just link to the appropriate category instead. -- Beland 02:13, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Dear community,
this is a proposal of collaboration more than an improvement of actual Wikimedia services. However, one of its results could be some useful additional knowledge on the actual usage of resources -- see the end of the message for some example.
My research group, KDD-Lab (Laboratory on Knowledge Discovery and Delivery: http://www-kdd.isti.cnr.it), is a branch of the ISTI institute of the Italian National Research Centre (CNR), and is recently working on analysis techniques for the logs of web servers. To make it simple, we would like to have the opportunity to apply our analysis techniques to the web logs of Wikipedia. Looking to the Wikipedia access statistics, we believe that an optimal amount of data would be the following: (1) the (raw) weblogs of the English section covering something like a week of usage, or (2) something like a month for the Italian section (... since our group is Italian).
Of course, we are willing to provide all the legal agreements that will be considered necessary, especially those regarding privacy. And, obviously, we will properly acknowledge the contribution of the Wikimedia community in any of our scientifical publications and reports where we use it. Finally, the analysis software we are going to develop will be open source.
Regarding privacy, we do not intend to distribute weblogs to third parties, and for our research we would require only the logs regarding visits to "content" pages, and not personal pages (nor any other kind non-content pages I cannot think of in this moment). Moreover, while weblogs identify users by their IP field, we do not need it, since any equivalent coding would be sufficient. E.g., IPs like 146.48.83.245, which can be easily associated with a physical person, could be replaced by IDs like IP-00321, allowing only Wikimedia webmasters to know the association IP<-->ID.
The results of our research would be (techniques for discovering) usage patterns of the form: "0.3% of users vited the sequence of pages A->B->C", with info on the visiting times. That could be used by Wikimedia in two ways. First, if successful, the analysis we are interested in could reveal users behaviors like: "Often Wikipedia users read page A in depth, then follow a link to B, but then switch immediately to page C (without reading B)", which suggests to check the content of page B or the anchor text of its link in page A (it could be misleading). Second, the patterns found could be added to the actual usage statistics (see "Usage statistics" in Special:Statistics), which at the moment are focused only on the traffic amount.
Hope you find it interesting and will support my proposal!
Best regards,
- Mirco
Is there a project or automated process that tracks down all the pages that have non-existent categories? I.e. categories that have not been created? I often find that such categories already exist, but are not set up correctly on the page. So it just needs somebody to run down a suitable existing category and fix the page. Thanks. — RJH 20:37, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Categories that have articles but no description page will show up as red links on Category:Orphaned categories. -- Beland 13:09, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've been poking around WP:CfD for an archive of an earlier discussion which apparently happened some months ago about this topic (supposedly located at Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion [Ed-the votes for Category:Anderson, Category:Bauer, Category:Cole, Category:Collins, Category:Fischer, Category:Farmer, and Category:Schmitt]), but I can't find it. Is there a policy on this? If not, I think a new discussion should occur on the true merits of having every last name with its own category. If this sort of thing is necessary at all, it would seem to me to be better served with a list than an unwieldly category. I bring this up now since I see some new categories were started today ( Category:Lynch, Category:McCoy, Category:Hanke). -- BaronLarf 16:47, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
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The discussion at Wikipedia:Deletion policy/names and surnames has been closed as having reached consensus. Maybe I'm dense, but I see no consensus there, nor do I understand just what the result of the discussion is. Rick K 06:18, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
When one section of a editing a long article, you press "save" and are returned to the top of the article. Why? Surely it would make far more sense if, the saved article appeared showing the top of the section you had just been editing. It would certainly save a lot of time scrolling down to the place where you've just been working, especially if you are doing a copyedit and therefore want to continue on from the beginning of the following section. Sure, there are times when you want to see the top of the article rather than what you've just been editing, but that's what the "home" button is for on your keyboard. Grutness... wha? 12:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
An April 22 Guardian article covered a proposal by Demos, a UK think tank, to wikify the legislative process. The ideal vision come to life would be an open process where citizens could edit and insert legislative suggestions in a wiki-draft style. Drafts would unfold in several realms such as a wikipage just for jurists, academics, common citizens, etc.
Fascinating and inspiring isn't it?
[ [4] Someone copied and pasted the article onto their page.
Could a Wiki-Congressional be the next Wikimedia project? A wiki that fetches Congressional bills for teh free editing of visitors?
Lotsofissues 12:09, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
I think that it'd be more intuitive to have the topmost link in the Wikiquote, Wikisource, etc. boxes to be to the subject rather than to the project themselves. It's just so instinctual to click the first link for the subject. Many assume that the bottom link is a reference to something of a more secondary nature, which the projects are.
I think it would be hugely beneficial for Wikipedia to put a "reference this page" link at the top of every Wiki page. It would link to a URL that would always point to the exact entry that the person saw when he clicked that link. In this way, if a researcher wants to cite Wikipedia, he can be sure that if somebody checks using the URL they are looking at the same page that he did. While many pages do not change significantly, it is not unthinkable that a section of a wiki that was cited by a researcher might be removed or otherwise edited, causing confusion when his colleagues look back to check his sources. "Reference" pages wouldn't necessarily be editable since they are intended for reference only. Ryan Prior 00:38, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
In a nod to the semantic web, there could be a mechanism for pages to contain a very simple definition or tiny summary, for display as a tool tip over the link. Rd232 22:59, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments. I appreciate that of the three proposals I made, this is by far the hardest to implement. To answer one of your questions, I had envisaged some kind of a {{summary}} tag on each page (or a separate subpage or whatever), with purpose-written content. Efficiently getting that content onto pages linking to it is another matter. Still, sometimes it's worth floating ideas, you never know where they might lead. Rd232 13:55, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I think it would be useful to create a small (couple of lines) summary of Wikipedia policy, with appropriate links. Things like WP:NOR, etc. This would be a permanent header at the top of every Talk page. In a relatively unobtrusive way (if kept very short) it would (a) remind regular users of these policies and (b) bring them to the attention of newbies who may well be entering the site via some random content page. Rd232 22:59, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requested copyright examinations -- Easyas12c 20:02, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I think that in order to help Mediawiki with funding, the creator (I forgot his name now) should allow someone to make Mediawiki merchendise. What do you think? Personally, I would like to have a necklace madallion (sp?) of Wikipedia around my neck. Admiral Roo ( Talk to me)( My Contributions) 19:02, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
I have created a compromise proposal regarding era style (BCE/CE vs BC/AD). Please discuss the proposal on its talk page. Kaldari 20:28, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I see alot of vandles (sp?) edit others user page(s). I think that only the user of that page should be able to edit it. Could the wikipedia code be changed to allow such a proposal that I am asking? And if someone has a proposal or suggestion to change the user page, a link on the top of all user pages should be place to let the user know that another has a proposal or suggestion to make in altering the page (perferably a link to make a new note on the users talk page).
-- Admiral Roo 14:27, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)
I think this is a good idea. There are many articles in need of pictures, such as Ancient Egyptian art. Revolución 04:41, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It would be nice if we had one single watchlist for all projects. I guess this is tied into single user login, though. - Omegatron 14:06, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
I've been watching/editing the Wikipedia:Clueless newbies page, and I'm just wondering if it would be OK to create an archive page for all the anon IPs. Here's my comment (taken from the talk page):
There's been quite a lot of promoting anon IPs as clueless newbies. Most of these newbies are only here for a day or two; the vast majority listed here have not been active in Wikipedia for over a month. Does anyone oppose making a "Clueless newbie" archive page? In addition, does anyone oppose splitting listing registered users from anon IPs when someone lists them here (i.e. list as two different sections?) Thanks!
Thanks, I just wanted to see what everyone else thinks before making a "Clueless newbie" archive for those not "officially" resolved- i.e. an anon or registered user who doesn't come back. Thanks for the input! Flcelloguy 19:19, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hello all,
I've been very impressed with the self-made Flash animations posted on various web pages, and I got to wondering whether something like that couldn't be incorporated into Wikipedia. For example, an overview of the Physics article might feature a Flash animation of Newton's three laws, or something like that.
I notice also that some articles are being made into "audio articles" by volunteers, but not in any systematic way right now. Is there any way that someone could edit either of these types of media in a similar way that he or she edits articles? (I assume editing a Flash animation would be easier, but the difficulty in both would seem to be matching the voices).
Really I am very impressed by short summaries of topics either in audio or video form, and I think it would add a lot to Wikipedia. What do you all think? Mjklin 03:19, 2005 Jun 15 (UTC)
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Would a page listing recently moved articles, along the lines of our already existing logs, be technically possible? This would be a great help for admins cleaning up after move vandals. Rje 01:58, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
Final two days of the vote on Wikipedia:Template standardisation. Ends 23:59 on 01MAY05. Noisy | Talk 12:34, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
A proposal for edit summaries to be automatically filled in from the diff when the editor doesn't enter anything.
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I have been trying to populate the Category:U.S. history images (which was all but empty) and I was surprised to discover that the majority of images used in U.S. history articles had no category assigned to them at all. Thinking about it, I realized that there is no attempt whatever to get users to assign a category when the image is loaded.
Now granted, categorization is a can of worms not to be opened unwarily, but at least an initial gross categorization would seem reasonable and useful to grab at image load time. What I would propose is that the top level categories on the Wikipedia:List_of_images page be presented on the Special:Upload page either as checkboxes (so that multiple categories could be chosen) or, if space is an issue, a dropdown list from which one category could be selected.
Though this would hardly provide a complete solution to the image categoriztion problem, it would at least seem to make a starting point from which more specific categorization could proceed. It has to be a better method than looking for uncategorized images in every articles in a given area and adding cats one by one.
Of course, there is a very low tech solution-- using text in the instructions, something like:
but I think far more users would ignore the request, and/or screw up adding the text (omitting brackets, typos, etc., etc.,) so that the automated process would be worthwhile. -- Mwanner 22:28, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
I don't want to have to save the pictures onto my computer to be able to upload them. They should be able to be uploaded from the internet. It's so much of a hassle to have to save images for articles on my computer and then have to delete them later on because they take up too much space. - Stancel April 28,2005 17:49 (UTC)
The thing I'd like improved about image uploading is to enable more than one image to be uploaded at one time. Thryduulf 20:26, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
We should not make it easy for new users to upload images that are copyrighted. Keep it the same as it is. However, there are a few applications where this would be useful, so maybe make it hard to find, or limited to only users with special priveleges, or just put huge warnings all over and make them click three checkboxes that say they agree first... - Omegatron 23:12, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
I have a set of National Geographic 112 Years CD-ROMs and another set of National Geographic Maps. They include many pre-1923 NG photographs and maps. These public domain materials can be very useful if I have time to upload them.
See, these images are useful.
No, I don't have to time to see if this picture is useful to that article. So can we create a request page that allows someone with a special demand ask for other people's help?
Let's say I need a picture on page 33 of Nature magazine of March 23, 1876 (I made this up), I'll post a request. Maybe someday someone can get me that information. -- Toytoy 15:02, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
having returned I am rather distraught. this idea is so "out there", that I was actually hoping for someone to explain to me why it is bad. I have given it some though and there are some potential drawbacks. I have come up with few of these and they are so trivial I can't recall them now. the least problematic and most beneficial would likely be the first thing I suggested, the idea of a Wiki-based biography project. I still do like the other two though. while there may be some ramifications, In the end I feel the Wiki community could definately benefit. Wiki is becoming such a popular sensation these days that it would likely advance the fields for all of human kind. the art idea, while probably least practical, would also likely have the most impact. the visual arts especially have been falling into the background of society. it would likely help at leas to build and expand a wikibook or wikiversity course on the arts. I will have to investigate. but the bio thing has some serious potential!! MethodicEvolution 04:44, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
below I have made two crazy proposals: a Wiki-project that is a compendium of biographies and also one that is geographical, including all kinds of useful population, demographic, seizmic, and whatever information about a location will be posted.
two individules have provided rebuttle, but niether appears to carry much weight. origionally, my proposal was for a biography project in order to expand on wikibiographies(Wikiraphies/Wikiographies)while at the same time taking some of the pressure off of Wikipedia. upon later consideration, I though a geographical or atlas type project sounds like it has some potential as well.
now, while I am making zainy proposals I figure I might as well add another. It would be interesting to have an entire opensourced compendium of art ect. and even artists (or links to their biographies) there could be visual and auditory bits and pieces as well as information. this sounds odd at first, I must say. espeically when various other mediaWiki projects already serve the purpouse. it just seems that if a whole tier were set aside for art, it would grow more then that subject does in this system. biographies, geographies, and maybe even art could be given some special attention while clearing space and navagational integrity for more scholastic material here in Wikipedia.
I realize that people naturally fear change, and that traditions and habits run deep here in the Wiki community. I am one of an apparent few who has conquered the fear of change and in fact prefer it these days. something new is quite often better then what came before. it seems at least possible that the wiki community and the system as a whole could benefit from and even be enriched by such a dramatic change. it is also possible that such a change could be absolutely detrimental, but I just can't see that too well.
in any case, such a change would inevitably require a great deal of effort and even skill on the part of wikians, namely the administrator class of us. this is another factor to take into consideration, but it may just be worth it. . .
again, I am open to refutations from as well as the support of my fellow wikians. for more detailed conversation, please contact me on my user talk page. otherwise, please free your speech here. . . MethodicEvolution 04:52, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think a new wikimedia project should be implimented to house biographies. something akin to "wikiography" would suffice.
I have noticed that there are a great many biographies on wikipedia. in fact, when I press "random page" I have (believe it or not) never ever gotten anything other then biographies! I will assume this is due to a predominance of biographies here. now, I do think it is important for wikians to produce and post biographies, I just don't think it's appropriate for an encyclopedia to be dominated by them. . . it would be nice if they could all be nicely collected in a biography project. I may expand later on this proposal, but any other suggestions or remidies or even stark contradictions are quite welcome. . . (ME) (about 2 hours before his post. . .)
I do agree with this notion now that you mention it, but. . . as far as I can tell, this would indeed be the case if they were collected into a 'Wikiography'. it seems that links between wikimedia projects are not uncommon. I would even emphasize a collective attempt to interlink two such wikimedia projects. in fact, with the growth of projects such as 'Wikibooks' and it's sub-project 'Wikiversity,' and even 'Wiktionary' or is it 'Wikitionary', and others. . . I would emphasize an attempt to interlink all thiese things. MethodicEvolution 08:40, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) (ME)
yes, this was simply an idea. if it is the continued subject of widespread dispute and rejection, I will subdue. I would though like to clarify my position. I am in favor of biographies, but see the wiki system as a whole. I did an expreiment tonight and tested the frequency response of the random page link I indeed came to the linked article by way of some odd forces. I still contend though that a significant portion of the articles here are biographies and it would be nice to see them all collected into their own tier for growth and expantion. I am a major advocate of organizing information into more expandable, digestable, and navigatable patterns. I reject the notion of Wikipedia as a "normal" encyclopedia. it just seems to me that if one category such as biographies becomes predominant, then maybe it should branch off. also, in this way they would not only clutter this space less, but in their new home could expand into a more complete and diverse (and yet specific) project. it is likely in fact that such a project branch would grow extremely fast, allowing wiki-based biographies to grow even faster then they are here. I am simply suggesting that a collection of biographies may have more use as just that then as an addition to this. also, links between biographies and wiki articles could be maintained and any misplaced entries, much like those moved to the dictionary project, could be moved to the biography project. (I am very tired, nearly 3:00AM here) MethodicEvolution 09:55, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
in addintion, another interesting idea would be a geography project, or an atlas. a wikilas. . . though possibly a less notable proposal MethodicEvolution 09:59, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The Wiki-based biography is hot hot hot. Send 12 year olds into retirement homes and hospices to document the wisdom within, and otherwise lost. Notables and less-notables alike may enjoy dropping their little tidbits into an open-source info-bank like this. Let me know where you go with it, I'll point it out to people. TTLightningRod 18:02, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
I would like to suggest the new wikiProject Ports. with infoboxes and categories and simply expand the whole subject. Since i find there is no article on the biggest port in the world: Port of Shangai The Article Port of Singapore is a good guidline to start but it would need to be expanded too. Mexaguil 23:59, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
There are quite a few articles in the main namespace with block compression errors on them. Given that we don't want these pages at all (and particularly not when there might be articles to go instead) I think we could move them out of the main namespace (perhaps into a subpage of VfD?) and delete the redirects. This frees up the main namespace nicely. What do people think? Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 18:51, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
What do you think about that? - Stancel
It is oxymoronic Mexaguil 00:02, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I mainly reside in the new articles area where I find that nearly every single anon contribution either must be deleted/reformatted/wikied/blanked and redirected - or sent to potential copyright violations. This sorting/work is tedious and overwhelming because of volume and the few editors who seem to be doing this. The volume of anons is so overwhelming that there is no opportunity for me to regularly check the articles of those created by red-link registered users. Occassionally I do check and often find the same problems. If an edit count was included next to the names of all contributers in RC and new articles then I would have a good tool for discerning what work to check - we have limited eyes, we need to rely on these indicators.
Also - Another idea: What about granting admins the power to insert a red dot next to a name that has been warned for malicious vandalism? (hello, does this work? would be spared but sophmoric "David s a big farter!!!" clowns, unlikely to ever contribute anything of value, should be marked for quick examination after edits. Lotsofissues 07:33, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
(Discussion was moved to Talk:Twix) — Sean κ. ⇔ 03:31, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
As per a discussion on IRC, there are plenty of people who vote keep on WP:VFD with the reasoning that there is the potential for an article to be encyclopedic—even Brilliant Prose—even though the article that currently exists there is in serious need of cleanup, and frankly, is usually downright awful. Then the VfD is closed, the article is kept, and nobody touches it ever again. (Disclosing biases: I am an eventualist, but an impatient one!) So I'd like to propose Wikipedia:Article rescue contest, to encourage people to actually put their money where their mouths are and do something when they say an article topic has potential. I'll even kick in for a WP coffeemug or something for the winner and do a writeup for the Signpost. Anyone else think this is a good idea? Come on over and help me get it started. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 00:01, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I apologize in advance for the self-promotion, but I recently came up with a couple new wiki project ideas. Of course, I really don't know if these ideas are realistic or worthy of even becoming projects, but I just wanted to let everyone know about them and perhaps comment about them on their respective talk pages so I can either refine the proposals or decide that they're not worth pursuing. They are follows:
Thanks in advance for your comments. — Stevie is the man! Talk | Work 19:50, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The name WikiLife101 is too US-centric. I don't understand the second suggestion. r3m0t talk 23:48, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
I couldnt think of a better name. The template may need improevement. -- Cool Cat My Talk 11:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, there is no English language post on USACOM. I've been following links from a Slate article ( http://slate.msn.com/id/2117172/fr/rss/) and have come across a bunch of U.S. acronyms that I have know idea about.
USACOM is one, ATK is another. ATK kicked me off their site as I wrote this to ensure security, hence they scare me.
I'd love to see you guys post something on the above.
The DARPA entry is fantastic,"ARPA was its original name, then it was renamed DARPA (for Defense) in 1972, then back to ARPA in 1993, and then back to DARPA again on March 11, 1996."
Love the work that is done here.
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Halló! I spend a lot of time that most of the disambiguation templates listed at de:Bild Diskussion:Logo Begriffsklärung.png#Vorlagen - Templates should use commons:Image:Disambig.png. The image should give an indication about the nature of the page and avoid linking between "normal" articles and disambiguation pages. I would be very happy if en: would use one of the images listed in that page. 75% of the 60 listed templates using such an image you can find also ja:Template:Aimai, ka:თარგი:არაორაზროვნება, vi:Template:Trang định hướng etc. Best regards Gangleri | Th | T 06:17, 2005 Apr 23 (UTC)
I like the image, but until the image server overload problem is resolved it shouldn't be added to such a massively-used template. violet/riga (t) 11:25, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
When we get new servers, can we have a contest to design the new icon? It's always so much fun. — Sean κ. ⇔ 03:41, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'd noticed this on other languages' disambig templates, and like it a lot. -- Tetraminoe 06:27, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
The discussion needs of wikipedia are abundant - this edit page format is ungainly in its extra technical barrier to newbies and also slow loading. A php forum site would spurn not only useful discussion but would immeasureably help other members introduce themselves as chit chat would be encouraged. I can understand if the community wouldn't want policy discussion divided across sites, but how about just an explicitly limited chit chat function? Has it been done? Well if not I'll volunteer to buy the domain and setup the board. Is there any interest?
Lotsofissues 13:09, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
That would be useful, but talk pages do most of that. Howabout1 18:41, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Somebody could create a Yahoogroup for Wikipedia discussion, but there would probably be disagreement as to who could moderate it. Rick K 23:38, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
Please contribute to Wikipedia:Poképrosal, a proposal on merging stubs on individual Pokemon characters into comprehensive lists.
The United Kingdom general elections are approaching. Considering the popularity and content growth which has resulted from high-interest topics such as the Pope, should we consider having a project to make Wikipedia the definitive source for information relating to the UK general election, in general, and this year's in particular? The national and international interest created by a closely contested and highly charged election tends to get people talking about it, and people like to know what they're talking about (or at least seem to ;-). If the media picked up on the quality of our articles relating to the election, we could harness this interest to bring more readers, editors and content. I personally consider this a great way to combine making Wikipedia better with making the election more interesting, and thus meaningful for people, not to mention the importance of neutral information regarding politics. Here are some things we could do:
Any comments?
To improve the creation of redirects, can wiki release a list of all user queries that did not land into an entry? Lotsofissues 07:51, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I propose that we should remove "yet" from the sentence "Wikipedia does not yet have an article with this exact name." (see Mediawiki:Noarticletext). To me, this implies that we don't have the article now but we should have one. I suggested this at the talk page a couple weeks ago, but there wasn't much response. If anyone has an opinion, please share it at Mediawiki talk:Noarticletext. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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Hi,
I am a scientist and find this website to be a great resource. But when searching scientific words that have nonscientific counterparts, you have to wade through large numbers of entries before finding what you are looking for. I propose establishing a separate scientific Wikipedia.
--B
Oh no, we couldn't possibly have a scientific Wikipedia... unless we're talking about Wikispecies, which isn't remotley more scientific that regular animal articles... - Munchkinguy 23:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
For anyone interested in the wiki forms of civil debate, concentrated think tanks, classical Greek and Roman "Forum", or other wikireason developments taking shape... please feel free to drop me a line. Although quite young and still developing, this project is intended to offer neutral structure for the incipient manifestations and conflict seen under almost any "discussion" tab. More so, the structure is a listing of current topics of sociological study and public policy, scientific logic process, and reasoned debate by pro/con weights and measures. Y'all gona love it!!! TTLightningRod 23:56, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Meatball has some very interesting things going on in terms of conflict resolution. Politeness, among just a few other things, seems to go a long way. Boldness is fine, but should be thin as possible when directing to a group or activity. Offering solution or suggestion instead of calling out the problem, becomes Herculean with positive results.
So those are some of the wikithink outputs to date. The comments below relate to my first winding (now in edit history). Oh, so painful for the reader, I do apologize. I wish to compliment all those I've met here. I'll be haunting wiki for years to come.
TTLightningRod 21:41, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The title of this list is just wrong.
Talk:List_of_people_known_by_one_name#Changing_the_article_title As someone has pointed out with "Christ" and "Jesus" being listed; people with single word pseudonyms are not known by one name — in fact, having a pseudonym often ends up with you being known by several names.
I propose this article be moved to List of people known by single word names or List of people who have names consisting of a single word ors oemthing similar.
Most people are known by only "one name".-- ZayZayEM 03:40, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Nobody has responded to this on the pages talk page. Hopefully this is okay to place here.
These people are not known by "one name", they are known by "one-word pseudonyms". Wikipedia should aim to have titles which actually reflect article content. I'm know in favour of a title akin to List of people known by single word pseudonyms-- ZayZayEM 08:16, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I like to make a proposal for someone to develop an apple OS 10.4 tiger dashboard widget that connects to wikipedia. I am not sure what politics are involved with developing such an application, but I believe that many people will use this and find it very convienent.
I would develop this widget myself and post it as an open source widget under a GPL if given the permission from wikipedia and obtain a copy of the operating system.
All the widget needs to consist of is the wikipedia title, a search bar to enter search requests, a language choosing system and a random page link. This widget would then be placed on the dashboard application for easy access.
Please someone begin working on this soon and post it some where for the general public; or give me the permission to start.
Thanks,
Fung
PS i can be reached at fung81@gmail.com for any questions, suggestions, spamming or communications
I think that Template:Flux was a good idea...Old Text:
This article is in a state of Wikipedia:Flux due to recent heavy editing. Therefore, the article may temporarily appear disorganized.
although I would say something like
This article is in a state of Wikipedia:Flux due to recent heavy editing. Therefore, the article may temporarily appear disorganized or have factual errors.
and I think that perhaps it should be reinstated? — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 16:28, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Not highest priority, but it would be nice to have a switch between ascending/descending order on the list so that you can see what is your nth edit (w/ numbering etc.) — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:40, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sorting on different fields, multiple find criteria, switch on sorting order -- all nice bells and whistles. When the time comes, I want them all -- in a to go cup, with Xmas lights on. — Xiong 熊 talk 05:50, 2005 Apr 20 (UTC)
Either way, it would be nice to see at a glance how many contributions I have made. Perhaps a number at the top, like how on my watchlist it says how many are being watched. CoolGuy 04:15, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
moved to Wikipedia:Village pump (perennial proposals)
Moved to Wikipedia:Village pump (perennial proposals).
I am a newcomer to this project. I find that many pages have a lot of useless links to very generic pages. For instance, on this page The_Life_and_Times_of_Scrooge_McDuck which is about the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck (a comic-book series), you have a link to the world gold, because gold is mentioned in the page. The page on gold explains that gold is a chemical element in the periodic table. This is pointless, just like adding a link to every single word in a page in case we don't know what's a chair or a boat. This is just one of many examples in many pages. Useful links are sometimes lost in a sea of un-needed links. I don't know if these links are generated or manually updated, but I suggest to be much more strict in adding them and on-topic.
I have been thinking about a new category, but I don't want to add it to Wikipedia before having consulted my brethren here. There are now many <year> births and <year> deaths categories. I personally think that <date> births and <date> deaths (for instance September 5 births and July 15 deaths) could be added to Wikipedia as well. It would be less bothersome than the categorization by year, since there are only 365 days to categorize, while thousands of years have now been categorized. What do you think of this? Aecis 18:58, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
I think that there should be some way for people to upload Flash movies onto Wekipedia. Or can it be done already? - Flamedude 7:38 May 17, 2005
The Random page function unfortunately leads to countless stub articles about high schools, obscure bands and not-VIPs. A feature where one could exclude articles smaller than a user-defined limit would be very nice. Ultramarine 10:32, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
What? Another useless server-breaking image? -- Toytoy 02:54, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
Considering the size of the Village Pump (some of which is due to lack of maintenance), I'm wondering if maybe we should reorganize it in a way similar to how VfD has recently been organized. The "Main page" of the pump would have only the introductory paragraph, the table of and links to the different sections and the table of "where else you might want to look for answers." It could also (maybe) have a short paragraph about how to maintain the pages, including the part about how any editor can do it. Thoughts? Comments? Soundguy99 18:00, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough. Up until, what, a week ago? the "standard" VfD main page that you got when you clicked "Deletion" at the top of the Recent changes page was a whole week's worth of votes and comments; it was huge and took forever to load. Then somebody reorganized it so the main VfD page is just a basic introduction/how-to with sub-pages for each day. This is much easier and faster, IMHO.
So, right now, we have a similar issue at Village pump. The standard "main village pump page" ( Wikipedia:Village pump) that you get to from everywhere has weeks' worth of comments from 6 different sections; it's huge and takes forever to load. This is annoying if a user just wants to browse. So the idea is that the " Wikipedia:Village pump" page would only have the current intro paragraph and the existing table - actual posts and comments would only appear on the appropriate sub-page, not the main V.P. page. The main V.P. page would be only a "directory" page, or a "map" page, as SV| t put it.
So, yes, it would be very much like Wikipedia:Village pump sections that Smoddy mentioned above. I didn't even know that existed until just now (thanks, Smoddy.) The issue is that getting to Village Pump from Wikipedia:Community portal or Wikipedia:Recent changes plops you down at a very large and slow page, which is probably disconcerting/annoying for many users, especially newer ones.
Having (hopefully) clarified my proposal, let me just comment on SV| t's additions:
Thanks for listening, Soundguy99 07:43, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
I noticed this policy ( Wikipedia:Neologism) was not linked to the village pump so I thought I would bring it here to vote on it. Falphin 00:24, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
FWIW:
Soundguy99 08:25, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
Te title of the page Medical Marijuana should be changed to Medical Cannabis. Not only does it reflect the proper terminology, it also avoids the use of what is a POV slang word whih was adopted (in the English Language) by agencies agaist the legal use of the substance to evoke a rather racist connotation with the drug. While it may have been subsequently more widely adopted, it is preferable to use the word Cannabis. Dainamo 00:19, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
Inspired by [[category:YEAR births]], I would like to know if it will be a good idea to categorise people according to day and month of birth, for instance, Bill Clinton be categorised to category:August 19 births. — Insta ntnood 16:47, May 13, 2005 (UTC)
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Hi, why doesnt wikip include dynamic info For example, I came to Wikip just now looking for the current local time in Washington. I was surprised this info wasnt on the page. This is where wikip really can be different from printed media. city pages could even show the current weather company specific pages could show the current share price
Hamish Hutton
I think that we should have a directory format in Wikipedia that would make surfing/browsing much easier. Something like Google's directory ( http://directory.google.com) or the German language Wikipedia ( http://de.wikipedia.org) would be a great setup. Tell me what you think. clarkefreak
i just wanted to tell you that i found e small error on the latin phrases page. it's actually AUDACES FORTUNA JUVAT...not AUDENTIS FORTUNA JUVAT I hope you will take apropriate measures. Thanks
I've created a trial multiple choice quiz. Is there a project running on this matter?
You can try my experiment here: Animal Farm Quiz
Fortinbras 08:40, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone capitalise the "search" "toolbox" and "in other "languages" headings in the left hand column? 17:13, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
Apologies if this has been discussed before.
I am not a html programmer, nor do I have any skills in creating web pages. I have skills as a writer, and I also am experienced in how to make and edit Wikipedia pages. The problem is that my User Page has essentially become my home page. Realising this about 4-5 months ago, I purchased my own web domain with the intention of using Wikimedia as the way to create my own web pages. Problems ensued - my ISP doesn't support LAMP for hosting and another hosting organisation were willing to do it, but I would be responsible for setting up and maintaining the Wikimedia software. Easy for some, but too much work for me.
And then the idea came to me this morning - why don't I approach Wikipedia and ASK if I can purchase my own home page? It would mean that I would be using the Wikimedia engine already running and being maintained by Wikipedia, but would have my own space to "do my own thing", including the posting of copyrighted information.
And then of course the idea went out further. Wikihome - a wiki-based home page organisation, or even Wikiblog. The idea being that anyone, especially Wikipedia contributors, can have their own little "space" on Wikipedia that they can call theirs. I, for one, would be more than willing to pay for it. Many people pay for their own websites, so they would be happy to pay Wikipedia for the right to have their own wikispace - a page that can ONLY be modified by the user and anyone that he/she has given the password to. Obviously there would be limits, including Mb, but there naturally would be a pricing system that would cope with it.
And the great thing is that this system can be used as a potential revenue stream for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is so big now, and has so many contributors, that "Economies of scale" could make it very profitable - which, of course, is channeled back into Wikipedia.
The advantages for people like me (and others who might be interested) are as follows:
Advertising is simple. A small ad would appear on every page of Wikipedia, including the front page. Since the advert is for a Wikipedia-based activity, it should not be classed as "corporate advertising" as such. Users would then click on it and find out about Wikipedia's hosting services. Stern-but-friendly messages would also be sent to users like myself who have gobbled up a bit too much of Wikipedia's space for their own ends, telling them to either reduce the size of the user page or purchase space on wikihome/wikiblog for a very competitive price.
The cost for Wikipedia itself would be minimal. Essentially the exact same software is used, although users would have security measures in place to prevent others from modifying their wikihome/wikiblog page.
I would, for one, be willing to pay Wikipedia for my own "Wikihome" page. Anyone else?
-- One Salient Oversight 00:54, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
A whole new nanespace for all the game stuff that seems to have significance for our gamers. There is quite a lot of material that could be assigned to that game namespace. And it could have its own peer review regs which may be more inclusive than the traditional WP protocol. I'm not speaking about traditional games such as checkers, fish, or chess. I'm speaking to computer games which have fervant followers with obscure characters and conections which are in vogue at this time (AD 2000 or so). The third cousin of a famous fighter who is being held in reserve fot the next episode may be an important article in Wikigame but of less relevance in Wikipedia proper. Comment here or on our User talk page. I just would like to know if I'm off th wall on this concept. hydnjo talk 04:03, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Fancruft and Wikipedia:Fiction and their talk pages discuss these issues and possible solutions in some detail. jdb ❋ ( talk) 14:41, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
More elitism. Rick K 22:04, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
Discussion moved to Wikipedia:Village pump (perennial proposals).
It's pretty easy.
Click on Random Page and then try to get to Kevin Bacon. My best is three clicks.
The site R3m0t is looking for is The Oracle of Bacon. Rick K 05:19, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
Also try Kate's Six Degrees of Wikipedia. Jesus to Freebase in 5 hops, Autofellatio to Pope John Paul II in 4. — Teknic Talk/[[Spe cial:Emailuser/Teknic|Mail]] 06:55, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
It would be nice if known vandalizers had some sort of mark next to there name on the recent changes page and the new pages list. That way, they would be easy to single out and remove any further dammage that they did. -- Happyfeet10
For a run-of-the-mill quarterly vandal such as this (has he bee banned by now?) - the system would be perfect. If it's your 50th time vandalizing the site, you might become tired of addressing everyone as "pigfuckers" or end with a histrionic 6 exclamations. These users would fall under the radar of the already proposed and proposed before vandal countermeasures. A system that identifies almost all vandalism must include this feature. Lotsofissues 14:18, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure this is the best place to post this, but back at the Technical page they told me we should vote. Beautiful democracy :-)
So: the word Śiva is widely used. It is important in Jung's works, religion, symbolism, Hinduism-, Psychology- and Mythology-related articles.
The problem is that the proper transliteration of the hindu word is Śiva, and throughout Wikipedia it is sometimes spelled as Shiva and sometimes as Siva, in the same article, making it a whole mess. It would be a minor problem, but it extends to saivite / shaivite, sivaya / shivaya, saivism / shaivism, saiva / shaiva. The number of articles which mention these movements, groups, philosophies are too widespread to be corrected by a single person.
So, the options are Ś, sh and s. Proper redirection pages would be created, but we need an agreed standard. Your opinions?
Then we have a consensus (habemus consensam! :-) ): Shiva it is. I appreciate all who helped us on this.
I propose a new deletion page: Wikipedia:Stub messages for deletion WP:SfD, similar to WP:TfD and WP:CfD. Now, some will see this as m:instruction creep, but on the other hand, I (and others) think that it would be worth it. Right now the WP:WSS discovers stub templates at an alarming rate. Since we have an interest in keeping the stub system as clean, lean and straightforward as possible (it's already pretty baroque), we usually discuss deletions, then send the stub template on WP:TfD and the stub category on WP:CfD, meaning three votes and double the discussion time (to make the situation worse, the last two votes depend on each other). Most of the time, concensus is already established by the WSS, and it seems as most other people on the deletion pages don't care much about stubs. However, all that stubcruft (© User:snowspinner) is bloating the two fD pages. If we had one page, where we "vote" (I know...) on stub deletions alone, we could cut out a lot of overhead and focus the people who really care about stub templates (i.e., the WSS). We'd need a proper policy for stub deletion nominations, but writing one is not really a problem. So: Is this useful, or is it a bad idea? -- grm_wnr Esc 16:01, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
No need at all for this. It duplicates the process at
Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria#Proposed stub deletions, which is a far more appropriate place for decisions to be made about what stub messages should exist and which should be deleted. --
Netoholic
@ 01:45, 2005 May 7 (UTC)
It should only have to be discussed once, whether it be at tfd, cfd, or sfd; besides avoiding useless redundancy, this'll prevent absurd situations where the category is deleted and the template kept (as looks to be happening now). Note that the process at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria#Proposed stub deletions doesn't have delete authority at present; sfd, in essence, is a proposal that it should. Both the template and the category should have a marking that it's being considered for deletion, in any case, and just all point at the same page. — Korath ( Talk) 23:03, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
Well... that was my original intention behind Wikipedia:Deletion of useless stub templates and stub categories. Still in a draft format... no one bothered to improve on it or whatever.... -- AllyUnion (talk) 01:15, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
The tone of a big wiki chinese word project for en or de or fr readers should take a very fun tone. I think a nice idea is to key to Peng's Chinese Treasury published by Heian out of Singapore to get the idea of it. It just has to be fun, 'cos that's what they are. Fun. I could certainly be a permanent member of a committee to continue writing this material. There should be some kind of sandbox-like area to allow the initial ridiculous sounding material to be viewed by all of wiki. I don't know myself how that would work. There is just so much anecdotal support evidence to create the bases of understanding involved, and these words are always talked about in terms of "I think this one might look like..." or "Does this one look the same to you..." or "I don't think you see what I see." That last one is a quote from Soulside of Dischord Records. There is usually some amount of liberality involved in actually getting to these books, and in my experience romance and moderate amounts of beer or wine have been involved, along with coffee, and even tobacco products, for those who occasionally smoke. Romance in my estimation is a usual upcrop of getting involved in Asian words. It is fun, in other words, and it engenders other fun activities. And under this fun umbrella is it only possible to get to the serious political issues involved, including various characterizational differences between Confucianism and Western religios attitude, and any other hot pepper that might present itself during the course of the fun. There is a lot of back and forth involved, between Ming vases and Conan O'Brien, between Stonehenge and Sailor Moon. It is so interesting. One develops an emotional ability one didn't have before, like learning how to eat peppers, or like guitar players have calluses. The course of thought trends to the group and it trends to the individual. The greatest bug bear is cliche, and realizing how much cliche is involved in our thoughts. One naturally develops a comical attitude to such constructs, and ends up talking and thinking more like Bob Dylan and stand-up comedians than one did before one started. Europe becomes one giant interesting yet newly homogenous place.
If I could offer one suggestion it would be to write En Han material and to forego theorizing, as a time-sink issue. That would be the reason to have a sandboxy place to put the incredibly varied Wikis that would be written about HanEn.
This project direction seems to me to be a central WikiObjective. I hope each and every single one gets in touch with this material. A man once said that each one is like a friendly face.
McDogm-- 152.163.100.66 07:56, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, this is a joke or a proposal translated into English using a bad internet translator. It sounds like a chatroom or message board. Munchkinguy-- 02:33, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
Ummm, translating this would mean a lot of work. It actually is a joke, but the Wiki community really needs a place to Hanify, w/o non-students being able to power-kibitz. What I mean is that Occidental culture is as sublime as Oriental culture if one considers Bob Dylan and J Church as being from the same place, artistically. And I am not sure how to take the challenge of not being able to use the on-line translator. It seems a bit heavy.-- McDogm 06:45, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
A: I can't imagine translating the above mega-paragraph to ZH at this point, but I can promise that I will continue to struggle with material such as J Church, Brain Failure, Sister Benten Grrl Bands, various precisii of material such as Don DeLillo, Thomas Pynchon, Italo Calvino and V.S. Naipaul, and stuff that is really Hanophilic such as Guided by Voices, NYPD Blue, Fugees, Seinfeld, WuTang, and the New England Patriots and San Francisco 49ers, as well as the normal geopolitical and scientific stuff that is so important. I would like to translate my proposal in its detail to anyone who seems interested, especially on Asian Wikis, but as a serious person it seems to me that working with accomplished writers like Lance Hahn of J Church and the guy from Brain Failure, and the partially En-ified punk groups Nonstopbody from Seoul and Hang On The Box from Beijing would be more efficient and more professional, from my standpoint. I mean, really, who needs another meta-sincere Asiapositive manifesto to be posted on the web? In a non-native language? It wouldn't make sense to me, the writer. It really boils down to a matter of being safe from non-students (of Han) in one's perambulation thru the workings of language, from an intercontinental viewpoint. Thanks for reading.-- McDogm 07:17, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
A week ago I proposed that we abolish personalized signatures. You hate it. Now I propose that we remove useless template icons.
Do we need so many templates? I guess most of them are needed. But do we need their icons? I guess not. These icons are bandwidth wasters. If you use a 33.6 kbps modem, you'll hate it. Even if you're using a T3 connection, I still don't think most of these icons would help you in anyway.
Wikipedia is supposed to be a reference site. It is not an artist's playground. So far I have seen icons possibly unrelated with the contents and many overformatted templates. What are we doing now? I suggest that we remove some icons and get rid of excess HTML tags. -- Toytoy 17:32, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
See meta:Image_server_overload_2005-03 (images have been removed from the very common templates) and Wikipedia:Template standardisation. violet/riga (t) 18:30, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This is a gratuitous image -- doubly gratuitous as I had not the first idea what was there when I entered the markup. It costs something to serve, something to load, something to display. It also relieves the eye dragging its way up and down this wasteland of text.
Before I came to this project, I thought I would never tire of telling users that too much eye candy is too much. I constantly get demands for Flash navigation bars and other offensive, broken sillyness. But this project enjoys the distinction of being visually dull in many places and slow to load.
We should raise more money, buy more servers, and hire more developers. We should be prudent in the use of images but not stingy. A picture is, famously, worth 1000 words. — Xiong 熊 talk * 03:26, 2005 May 16 (UTC)
I think we have enough members now to enforce this policy. No more IP edits, the problem with vandals and vanity is getting worse.
Hey. According to the WP documents you can only show the file size using the search function or if the page is more than 30kb long. Now that search doesn't work, is there any other way?
-- Fred- Chess 22:41, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Several of Wikipedia's articles on Presidents of the United States are getting quite big that I want to see if Wikipedia can do something with its info on the Presidents so that none of them can get big:
For each President, Wikipedia should have articles on the general biography ( George Washington,) the presidency specifically ( Washington Administration,) and whatever else is available that can be an encyclopedic article by itself. (Also, I want to see which of these is more logical on Calmypal's Presidents tempalate; a link to the general biography or a link to the presidency specifically.) Georgia guy 20:29, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
When an article is posted on the main page as the featured article of the day, it gets a lot of attention- which includes a stream of potential editors and improvement. Now, every article could use improvement, but why focus that power exclusively on articles we already feal are exemplary? Why not feature one article per day on the main page that needs the most improvement?
Instituting such a measure, it need not appear that wikipedia is bragging about bad articles like it braggs about its feature articles. The section of "Article needing improvement of the Day" need only be a small title in an inconspicuous place in the main page.
If wikipedia editors focus on one bad article a day, we may systematically improve the encyclopedia instead of simply waiting till enough people coincidentally happen upon an article to sufficiently improve it.-- Amanaplanacanalpanama 08:15, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
How about... creating a box on the main page called something like "Articles needing TLC", and putting links to five, erm, bad articles in there each day? That way maybe a visitor to the main page will see one of their pet interests listed as needing some work and...? Grutness... wha? 12:14, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
We already have the Wikipedia:Community portal which prominently displays articles in need of various types of attention. We do try to maintain something of a division between "prime time" content directed at readers and content directed at editors. Which is why the main page is supposed to be more polished. Even though any reader can potentially become an editor, I think I like things the way they are, even though the pages featured on the Community Portal often languish there for weeks. -- Beland 02:50, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I thinks there is too much skeleton visible in wikipedia its all very messy and a lot of technical stuff seems off putting to potentially useful contributors.
Suppose there is a clever way to hide all the works but still make it highly useable?
Would that be encouraging to more users?
Hi,
is there a possibility to extend wikitravel in a manner, that travellers can share their experiences with hotels, restaurants, tours etc.? It should be possibble to rank all the mentionned categories somehow and an average of the ranks should be dissplaied.
regards
Robert Meyer
I propose putting a time stamp at the top of the My Watchlist page showing the last time the page was refreshed. This will keep me and other Wikipediholics from refreshing it too often. - Rlw (Talk) 16:52, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
I visited the French Wikipedia, and I saw that each week, they invite wikipedians for a doing a certain task. This week it was putting categories XXXX births and XXXX deaths to every biographical article. I also suggest Interlangua week, Wikifying week, Disambig week... 500LL 07:11, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
How about creating a large database of possible occupations. I myself would like to create the medical field database featuring the three major occupations ( Human Medicine, Dental Medicine, and Veterinary Medicine) and all sub-fields in the three categories. Each database could be categorized alphabetically.
On Wikipedia, there are barely any 'dictionary' sections where one can look up what a term means. Check, for instance, the Scientific field of Linguistics. There's a lot of words that are really just confusing for a lot of folks there and I'd have to check (and perhaps Print if I were to use this information somehow) each and every one of those subjects just to get an Idea of what they're meaning there. It might be a good idea to instead construct an article with every kind of main term right there, either in the Wikictionary, such as (for linguistics), "Tense," "diacritic," and a lot of other terms. I'm not too sure, but I'd like something just to get me on track, and possibly the link for further understanding. There probably are some glaring issues, but it's just really annoying to read a great article, yet not know what really they're trying to say nor have a clue as to what that means for me on the other side and what exactly I need to know or do for any piece of paper for school/work that I might need to do by Monday. Please give feedback/ideas so I don't really make this a stupid trip to the store for nothing. PanzerArizona 03:10, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I edited your info because when you put a space before the first word on your info, it creates an ugly box.
-- Admiral Roo 03:57, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
I wonder, can we make a category of discography and put everyone's disography in it (such as Kylie Minogue's Discography) for a one-point reference?
68.169.113.246 Talk to me, 68.169.113.246 My contributions 68.169.113.246 19:02, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Their is a large happeing in my home County that has been in the news since Mother's Day. A church that is being calld a cult has surfaced after a man killed his wife in fron of their five youngest children by beating her to death with the butt of a rifle (the rifle malfunctioned and did not shoot). She reacently won coustody of the five children because she made alligations that the church is a cult, and feared for her life. Because of her winnings, the husband killed her, and not long after the murder the members of the church, including the Rev., came to protest the arrest of the husband.
Now where am I getting at? I propose that a community project be created for all to put their local news on the project page that did not make national or international headlines, and would not clutter Wikinews or Wikipedia's news section with minor news.
What do you think?
68.169.113.246 Talk to me, 68.169.113.246 My contributions 16:34, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This sounds like a perfect use of Wikinews. RickK 66.60.159.190 19:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Rick is right. Wikinews wants local news as long as it can be verified. Mgm| (talk) 16:32, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
I think that a new template should be created that says something like "It is requested that this page be locked to prevent further vandalism" to add to pages that have been vandalized to alert administrators to these pages and decide weather or not to protect that page. I also think that when this template is used, a category of "proposed pages to be locked" should be filled so admins can see all the pages that are proposed to be locked. This template should be used for non-admins so admins can make a decision to lock the topic(s) in question or not.
68.169.113.246 Talk to me, 68.169.113.246 My contributions 14:18, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Thryduulf.
I think these categories should be merged, but I am leaving that up to you all.
I agree, these categories should be merged. You could create a DSM-IV category of diagnoses and a category for the international diagnoses thingy (I can't think of the name). -- Joseph Wayne Hicks 21:42, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
That would be the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems by the World Health Organization
68.169.113.246 Talk to me, 68.169.113.246 My contributions 12:07, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I just created the Mental illness diagnosis by DSM and ISCDRHP category. If anyone has a better name to that category, pleas rename it.
Category mergers should be proposed on Wikipedia:Categories for deletion. Bot assistance may be available. -- Beland 02:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Anyone who's a frequenter of WP:RFC would have noticed that it's regularly a lengthy mess of old proposals, and most people only read the top few and comment on those (and watch them if appropriate). Presently, cleanup consists of copy/pasting a bunch of old ones to the archives whenever they get too long. Ideally, people unlist RFCs when they no longer apply, but in practice that rarely happens.
It would be useful to employ a bot to do this work. The process would be simple - once per week, examine all RFC entries and check when they were last edited. If they haven't been edited for two weeks, they can be archived, because that means the discussion has died (and, hopefully, been resolved).
An alternate proposal would be to have them time out one month after creation, on grounds that by that point, the discussion would have gone stale anyway.
Would anyone have a problem with this? It would make the page a lot more legible. R adiant _* 12:25, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
I often find the need to look up people, however, some people do not need an entire article dedicate to them. I propose having a wikibiography project for people. Also I think a Gazateer for geography would be great. If we already have these things, I apologize and ask for a hyperlink so I can find them.
Thank you. -- Joseph Wayne Hicks 06:44, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
Exactly what kind of people you mean? Famous people usually are worthy (or notorious) enough so that there is enough information at least for a short biography, which is definitely an article. - Skysmith 11:34, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
If you do a search for this girl's name, you get a ton of hits. Check out her article ( Katie Brownell) and see if you can find anything to add to it. I tried creating the article myself, but I am disappointed that no-one is helping out with more info. -- CGally81 00:46, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
There is some controversy here because of the area of the same name in Greece. However, to give a direct parrallel, the county of Luxembourg seems to attract no problems being listed as Luxembourg depsite being part of a larger historical area part of which remains as a province of Belgiam and is still called Luxembourg. The controversy created by Greece is a POV issues and something that has no place. I have no axe to grind but things shouold be consistent and thete is a lot of argument on the nameing of this county. Pandering to objections on Macedonia calling itself what it is, is itself POV. The most stupid idea is FYROM. Afterall we don't call the Ukraine FSURU! Call it Macedonia and have a disambiguation page or direction to the area in Greece. Dainamo 14:41, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Calling the controversy over the naming of this piece of land (that has never been called macedonia until the collapse of its last government into civil war) a POV is like saying that the Vietnam war was a POV issue. the term FYROM is meant to be stupid, it is a temporary title, it isn't supposed to be useable. the fact that both countries started massing troops on the border a few years ago over the issue is exactly why both the UN and the EU deem it important enough to rule against the provocation by not recognising the name Macedonia for the fyrom.
The subtle difference here is that the cosy (and borderless) interchange between the luxembourgs isn't contested by anyone - Georgia stopped aiming ICBMs at Georgia (in both directions) at about the same time that the eastern one became a country. But a load of former yugoslavs and a load of greeks could end up dead just because of the patriotic zeal that is stirred up by the use of this name Macedonia Wiki recognises partisan propoganda as a vfd issue - all well and good - but when it is about a current issue that potentially has peoples lives at stake leaving wikipedia's definition in direct contravention of the worlds highest diplomatic rulings and the stances of most national governments is crass negligence. DavidP
If it ain't broke... The current solution seems a fair compromise to me. Physchim62 08:16, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Could you please add an entry for 'Spawn'. It is a comic book by Todd McFarlane. http://www.spawn.com/comics/series.aspx?series_id=1
and was also made into a movie. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120177/
Once we upgrade to MediaWiki 1.5, could we have a bot to replace entity codes with characters? Susvolans (pigs can fly) 12:22, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
In the English wikipedia, I want to make the section on Romanian cities complete, by writing articles for listed cities that do not have them and editing existing ones, by adding information, etc... What I'm wondering though is, is it worth the effort?
It's worth the effort if you know about the cities. Wikipedia has room for everything. Howabout1 Talk to me! 02:03, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I post frequently on the dogsonacid.com Grid ( http://www.dogsonacid.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=4) which is a large forum devoted to the production of Drum & Bass, a style of electronic music. There are alot of threads on this forum that contain very useful information, but it's hard to get all of them in the same place. Recently there has been a discussion about making some sort of document containing all of the various useful posts that we are able to find on the grid. I think that using a wikipedia entry called "Drum & Bass production techniques" would be useful for this, but i don't know how well it would work with wikipedia's policy/purpose as it wouldn't be a direct encyclopedia article, but a collection of organized posts. I personally think it meshes with wikipedia's goal of compiling human knowledge, but i don't want all my hard work deleted for violating POV or something. please get back with some input on this idea.-- 69.162.177.145 01:59, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
-- Bart133 (t) 23:02, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
I don't think that's a good change at all. A vandal could replace the entire Talk page, or insert something pornographic, and they could just check the minor box, and you wouldn't know it had happened. rickK 66.60.159.190 19:06, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
A while back I began an article, saved it, edited some more, encountered a coundn't save due to conflict, checked it out, found someone had placed a {{ delete}}, after a discussion was informed of {{ inuse}}, problem solved.
I just read an account of a newbie's troubles spending time and effort and the next day finding his unfinished effort was all ready deleted.
I sugest promoting use of {{ inuse}}. Maybe automatically putting it on empty newly created articles. Or maybe some other way of promoting its use. 4.250.33.185 21:04, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
I just
I object to the inuse template because people tend to use it to mean "Only *I* am allowed to work on this page", and leave it there for days on end. RickK 66.60.159.190 19:05, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It is impossible to automatically format a date without creating link. This contributes a lot to overlinking.
For example, there are pages with 1000 links to the year 2000. I think that is overlinked. As a category, dates are the most excessively linked articles, as is shown by their ranking on the following lists:
Is it possible to have a 'create date object' that is independent of the 'hyperlink to other article' method? Bobblewik (talk) 16:33, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
I support this proposal. I agree that linking to dates is a generally cause of over-linkink. i think thjat shuch links, as links, are usually pointless, and should be removed if there were to be another way to apply date preference formmatting. I also think that most links to partial dates (D/month without year, or year alone) are already pointles, and i have started to remove them when I edit articles that have such links, although i don't go looking for them.
I have no idea if the proposal is technically hard or easy. I find it hard to belive that it is impossible. Note that instead of _10 Jan 2005_ we could have #Date(10 Jan 2005) if that were technically easier to implent. DES 22:07, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
How many articles would be left if one disregarded those with businesses and products as the titles? Should there be a way to label articles as such? Would a "proper" encyclopedia contain such articles? [Left by Anon. User 66.25.162.157 ]
Wikipedia articles are increasingly being linked to from external sites, including many gaming news sites and Slashdot. Obviously, enough people visiting these sites have very little respect for the Wiki Way, and this results in massive vandalism sprees and subsequent cleanups. In my opinion it would be very useful to have a sort of 'early warning' page that lists the articles that are currently receiving the most hits from links from external sources so that we may easily be more proactive in preventing vandalism. Please forgive me if this has already been suggested; I did look around, and didn't see anything to this effect. -- BratticusPsychosis 05:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
It appears that SVG cannot be supported by Wikipedia (Commons). Are there other vector graphic formats which can be supported on Wikipedia? And can we do something to improve the situation, to be able to share SVG and vector files? Yug 22:24, 28 May 2005 (UTC) I'm french, my english is still improving :)
SVG upload is disabled for security reasons (JavaScript...) at the moment. I have contriibuted code to the next version of mediawiki that will make it safe(er) to have SVG files, I hope uploading SVG will be enabled as soon as we go to 1.5 - that is, in a few weeks (hopefully) Until then, the only vector format supported by the commons is PDF, which is not a very good choice :( -- Duesentrieb 01:00, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Disclaimer - this idea may have been suggested before.
Pages such as UN redirect to United Nations, and pages such as EU redirect to European Union. It is almost always the acronym used in articles, but if there was a policy to pip the link, so that one would type [[European Union|EU]], then when the mouse was hovered over it, it would expand the acronym like so: EU. If you look at this page, the text underlined in blue dots has this property. Worth a try?--> Energy ( talk) 07:23, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
I made a template of the non-link hoverbox tags at User:Energy/Hoverbox. There are instructions of how to make it work on my userpage, if you feel the instructions aren't clear, feel free to adapt them.--> Energy ( talk) 06:43, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
The Wikipedia:Entertainment Collaboration of the week and the Wikipedia:Popular Music Collaboration of the Week should be brought back to life. They have become inactive, while so many important actors, directors and musicians have terrible articles. Look at Elton John, and Henry Fonda for example. The Music Collaboration should be open to all bands and musicians though, if brought back. -- Carolaman 23:40, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
There is a poll open on applying the guidelines at WP:FICT to articles on Pokémon characters at Wikipedia:Poképrosal#Poll: WP:FICT and Pokemon -- Carnildo 23:37, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
In browsing a few stub templates, it struck me that it might be useful to add to the notice that "this page is a stub" an external link to the Google search-results page for the term corresponding to that wikipedia page's title.
For example, in looking this morning at the wikipedia entry for National Sorry Day, I noticed the stub notice at the bottom: "This Australia-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." I wondered if it would be helpful to expand that to something like, "This Australia-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it, perhaps by performing a Google search on the phrase "National Sorry Day".
I guess the same suggestion could be made about any wikipedia article, not just stub pages. But it would seem especially helpful in the case of stubs. On the other hand, the construction of the external link would be subject to breakage in the event Google changed their search interface, and I suppose the singling out of a particular commercial search engine for a proposed "additional information" link like this could bother some people (like those who operate competing search engines, or who just don't want to see a community project like wikipedia tainted by affiliation with a particular commercial site in that way).
Anyway, I'm pretty new to wikipedia, and figure this probably has already been considered, but I was unable to find a mention of it in a quick search. I'm curious what people think about it. -- John Callender 18:39, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
I would suggest that a new section is added under the search box (above the toolbox) that allowed a person to search various resources for page name, including Wikipedia itself, Google and Yahoo. violet/riga (t) 14:36, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Every (sorted) stub already has a link to the category that contains of all the stubs that have the same topic-specific tag. These are in turn members of Category:Stub categories. There's no need to go to Google, which in any case would have an outdated list. Just link to the appropriate category instead. -- Beland 02:13, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Dear community,
this is a proposal of collaboration more than an improvement of actual Wikimedia services. However, one of its results could be some useful additional knowledge on the actual usage of resources -- see the end of the message for some example.
My research group, KDD-Lab (Laboratory on Knowledge Discovery and Delivery: http://www-kdd.isti.cnr.it), is a branch of the ISTI institute of the Italian National Research Centre (CNR), and is recently working on analysis techniques for the logs of web servers. To make it simple, we would like to have the opportunity to apply our analysis techniques to the web logs of Wikipedia. Looking to the Wikipedia access statistics, we believe that an optimal amount of data would be the following: (1) the (raw) weblogs of the English section covering something like a week of usage, or (2) something like a month for the Italian section (... since our group is Italian).
Of course, we are willing to provide all the legal agreements that will be considered necessary, especially those regarding privacy. And, obviously, we will properly acknowledge the contribution of the Wikimedia community in any of our scientifical publications and reports where we use it. Finally, the analysis software we are going to develop will be open source.
Regarding privacy, we do not intend to distribute weblogs to third parties, and for our research we would require only the logs regarding visits to "content" pages, and not personal pages (nor any other kind non-content pages I cannot think of in this moment). Moreover, while weblogs identify users by their IP field, we do not need it, since any equivalent coding would be sufficient. E.g., IPs like 146.48.83.245, which can be easily associated with a physical person, could be replaced by IDs like IP-00321, allowing only Wikimedia webmasters to know the association IP<-->ID.
The results of our research would be (techniques for discovering) usage patterns of the form: "0.3% of users vited the sequence of pages A->B->C", with info on the visiting times. That could be used by Wikimedia in two ways. First, if successful, the analysis we are interested in could reveal users behaviors like: "Often Wikipedia users read page A in depth, then follow a link to B, but then switch immediately to page C (without reading B)", which suggests to check the content of page B or the anchor text of its link in page A (it could be misleading). Second, the patterns found could be added to the actual usage statistics (see "Usage statistics" in Special:Statistics), which at the moment are focused only on the traffic amount.
Hope you find it interesting and will support my proposal!
Best regards,
- Mirco
Is there a project or automated process that tracks down all the pages that have non-existent categories? I.e. categories that have not been created? I often find that such categories already exist, but are not set up correctly on the page. So it just needs somebody to run down a suitable existing category and fix the page. Thanks. — RJH 20:37, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Categories that have articles but no description page will show up as red links on Category:Orphaned categories. -- Beland 13:09, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've been poking around WP:CfD for an archive of an earlier discussion which apparently happened some months ago about this topic (supposedly located at Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion [Ed-the votes for Category:Anderson, Category:Bauer, Category:Cole, Category:Collins, Category:Fischer, Category:Farmer, and Category:Schmitt]), but I can't find it. Is there a policy on this? If not, I think a new discussion should occur on the true merits of having every last name with its own category. If this sort of thing is necessary at all, it would seem to me to be better served with a list than an unwieldly category. I bring this up now since I see some new categories were started today ( Category:Lynch, Category:McCoy, Category:Hanke). -- BaronLarf 16:47, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
Moved to Wikipedia:Village pump (perennial proposals).
The discussion at Wikipedia:Deletion policy/names and surnames has been closed as having reached consensus. Maybe I'm dense, but I see no consensus there, nor do I understand just what the result of the discussion is. Rick K 06:18, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
When one section of a editing a long article, you press "save" and are returned to the top of the article. Why? Surely it would make far more sense if, the saved article appeared showing the top of the section you had just been editing. It would certainly save a lot of time scrolling down to the place where you've just been working, especially if you are doing a copyedit and therefore want to continue on from the beginning of the following section. Sure, there are times when you want to see the top of the article rather than what you've just been editing, but that's what the "home" button is for on your keyboard. Grutness... wha? 12:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
An April 22 Guardian article covered a proposal by Demos, a UK think tank, to wikify the legislative process. The ideal vision come to life would be an open process where citizens could edit and insert legislative suggestions in a wiki-draft style. Drafts would unfold in several realms such as a wikipage just for jurists, academics, common citizens, etc.
Fascinating and inspiring isn't it?
[ [4] Someone copied and pasted the article onto their page.
Could a Wiki-Congressional be the next Wikimedia project? A wiki that fetches Congressional bills for teh free editing of visitors?
Lotsofissues 12:09, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
I think that it'd be more intuitive to have the topmost link in the Wikiquote, Wikisource, etc. boxes to be to the subject rather than to the project themselves. It's just so instinctual to click the first link for the subject. Many assume that the bottom link is a reference to something of a more secondary nature, which the projects are.
I think it would be hugely beneficial for Wikipedia to put a "reference this page" link at the top of every Wiki page. It would link to a URL that would always point to the exact entry that the person saw when he clicked that link. In this way, if a researcher wants to cite Wikipedia, he can be sure that if somebody checks using the URL they are looking at the same page that he did. While many pages do not change significantly, it is not unthinkable that a section of a wiki that was cited by a researcher might be removed or otherwise edited, causing confusion when his colleagues look back to check his sources. "Reference" pages wouldn't necessarily be editable since they are intended for reference only. Ryan Prior 00:38, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
In a nod to the semantic web, there could be a mechanism for pages to contain a very simple definition or tiny summary, for display as a tool tip over the link. Rd232 22:59, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments. I appreciate that of the three proposals I made, this is by far the hardest to implement. To answer one of your questions, I had envisaged some kind of a {{summary}} tag on each page (or a separate subpage or whatever), with purpose-written content. Efficiently getting that content onto pages linking to it is another matter. Still, sometimes it's worth floating ideas, you never know where they might lead. Rd232 13:55, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I think it would be useful to create a small (couple of lines) summary of Wikipedia policy, with appropriate links. Things like WP:NOR, etc. This would be a permanent header at the top of every Talk page. In a relatively unobtrusive way (if kept very short) it would (a) remind regular users of these policies and (b) bring them to the attention of newbies who may well be entering the site via some random content page. Rd232 22:59, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requested copyright examinations -- Easyas12c 20:02, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I think that in order to help Mediawiki with funding, the creator (I forgot his name now) should allow someone to make Mediawiki merchendise. What do you think? Personally, I would like to have a necklace madallion (sp?) of Wikipedia around my neck. Admiral Roo ( Talk to me)( My Contributions) 19:02, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
I have created a compromise proposal regarding era style (BCE/CE vs BC/AD). Please discuss the proposal on its talk page. Kaldari 20:28, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I see alot of vandles (sp?) edit others user page(s). I think that only the user of that page should be able to edit it. Could the wikipedia code be changed to allow such a proposal that I am asking? And if someone has a proposal or suggestion to change the user page, a link on the top of all user pages should be place to let the user know that another has a proposal or suggestion to make in altering the page (perferably a link to make a new note on the users talk page).
-- Admiral Roo 14:27, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)
I think this is a good idea. There are many articles in need of pictures, such as Ancient Egyptian art. Revolución 04:41, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It would be nice if we had one single watchlist for all projects. I guess this is tied into single user login, though. - Omegatron 14:06, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)
I've been watching/editing the Wikipedia:Clueless newbies page, and I'm just wondering if it would be OK to create an archive page for all the anon IPs. Here's my comment (taken from the talk page):
There's been quite a lot of promoting anon IPs as clueless newbies. Most of these newbies are only here for a day or two; the vast majority listed here have not been active in Wikipedia for over a month. Does anyone oppose making a "Clueless newbie" archive page? In addition, does anyone oppose splitting listing registered users from anon IPs when someone lists them here (i.e. list as two different sections?) Thanks!
Thanks, I just wanted to see what everyone else thinks before making a "Clueless newbie" archive for those not "officially" resolved- i.e. an anon or registered user who doesn't come back. Thanks for the input! Flcelloguy 19:19, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Hello all,
I've been very impressed with the self-made Flash animations posted on various web pages, and I got to wondering whether something like that couldn't be incorporated into Wikipedia. For example, an overview of the Physics article might feature a Flash animation of Newton's three laws, or something like that.
I notice also that some articles are being made into "audio articles" by volunteers, but not in any systematic way right now. Is there any way that someone could edit either of these types of media in a similar way that he or she edits articles? (I assume editing a Flash animation would be easier, but the difficulty in both would seem to be matching the voices).
Really I am very impressed by short summaries of topics either in audio or video form, and I think it would add a lot to Wikipedia. What do you all think? Mjklin 03:19, 2005 Jun 15 (UTC)