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==Title==

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 17:21, 19 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Just...why? I don't really see this being too useful. Invalid OS ( talk) 23:04, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Cambodia at the Southeast Asian Games

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The result of the discussion was restore. I won't draftify it myself per BDD's concerns, but will leave it as a normal editorial decision. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:39, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

I believe this redirect should be deleted. The target article is a completely different competition. ThiagoSimoes ( talk) 22:03, 25 September 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Restore the 09:23, 14 June 2015‎ PRehse version of the article and draftify. This was an inappropriate instance of deletion-through-redirection by an indefinitely blocked editor. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 18:19, 29 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Weak restore and draft per Black Falcon, though I'm a bit concerned with the idea of putting something in draft space without any indication anyone will work on it. Then again, I don't think it needs so much work before it could be back in mainspace. There seems to be only one other such article for "[Country] at the Southeast Asian Games", so if not for that, I would probably vote delete. I could still live with WP:REDLINK deletion as is. -- BDD ( talk) 20:04, 8 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Military career of Napoleon the Great

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. This is leaning close to "delete" for the accented version and close to a full "keep" for the unaccented. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:36, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Napoleon the Great does not appear to be a common alternative name for Napoleon in English. We don't have a redirect from it to Napoleon, so I don't see why we should have this redirect either. signed, Rosguill talk 20:30, 25 September 2019 (UTC) reply

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Snout-vent length

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Heimr

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Castejón–Bilbao railway

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List of Paper Mario series characters

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Yonkers Daily Voice

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🕵️

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Surgeon Simulation CPR

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:04, 20 October 2019 (UTC) reply

The game is called "Surgeon Simulator", it is rarely misspelt as "Surgeon Simulation". Lordtobi ( ) 19:49, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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UNC Jazz Press

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:03, 20 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target. Zerach ( talk) 19:46, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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North Point Senior Secondary Boarding School

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The result of the discussion was delete. A WP:TROUT to Sam Sailor for using WP:BLAR to create invalid redirects. Usually the result for these kind of cases is a restoration of the articles, but it's clear from this discussion that these articles would end up being deleted anyway, so there's no need for extra bureaucracy here. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:03, 20 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned there. Peter James ( talk) 18:25, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Disney's Game On

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:56, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned at the target article. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 18:13, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Sonic2006

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. -- BDD ( talk) 20:55, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Implausible redirect/ambiguous. I would R3, but this was not a "recent" creation. TheSandDoctor Talk 16:14, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply

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List of Wikipedia essays

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:44, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Cross-namespace redirect; unlikely search target (1 view in 90 days)) – xeno talk 13:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Soft redirect would be first choice, keep as is would be second choice, and generally oppose deletion. The title follows our naming conventions on lists and if someone is looking for a list of Wikipedia essays, a new user or researcher unfamiliar with WikiNamespaces, this is actually useful and not astonishing. It's one of the few times it seems to make sense to take people to relevant content in the project namespace. I prefer a soft redirect to make those looking for encyclopedic content aware that they're crossing namespaces to a page where editorial standards are slightly different. Wug· a·po·des19:27, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Keep no harm in keeping....was made when I was searching for a list of easays..... found nothing...so I made the directory and made a redirect just in case someone else was looking for the same thing WP:R#KEEP.-- Moxy 🍁 15:04, 29 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Speedily delete per nom. -- Soumyabrata ( talksubpages) 17:40, 29 September 2019 (UTC) reply
Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion why? -- Moxy 🍁 03:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
Yes but it's clear as stated many times is case like ths Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 112#RFC: On the controversy of the pseudo-namespace shortcuts.-- Moxy 🍁 03:31, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
This isn't pseudo-namespaced though, it's a cross-namespace redirect. – xeno talk 12:35, 2 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Previously deleted non-standard foreign names for Wikipedia

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The result of the discussion was delete most, no consensus on the four Latin ones. -- BDD ( talk) 20:47, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Previously deleted as a result of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 8#Foreign language redirects to Wikipedia, these redirects include 1) titles that are non-standard or otherwise incorrect for the target language (e.g. Vicipedium, 維基大典, WİKİPEDİA), not used in any language (e.g. Guiquipedia), or ambiguous between multiple possible Wikipedias (Википедиja). I would suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 12:09, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply

The redirects listed above pointing to "Latin Wikipedia" are useless. Delete them. I think you're right about the others too. Andrew Dalby 19:45, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply
... but no need for long discussion. I respect P Aculeius's opinion below. Keep the Latin ones, then. Andrew Dalby 11:21, 1 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Thanks for catching this, it looks like we have Википедија as a dab page and Википедиja as a redirect. Based on the results of plugging them into this site, it looks like the DAB version uses a Cyrillic keyboard for all letters, while the redirect version inexplicably switches to a Latin keyboard for the j and the a. signed, Rosguill talk 15:32, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy delete in compliance with WP:G4. The speedy deletion criterion says it all. flowing dreams ( talk page) 10:27, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Let's forget that I ever mentioned G4; I hate invoking laws that cannot justify themselves. Let's pretend this is the first time they are being discussed. I find it unlikely that, for example, a person who speaks Persian comes to English Wikipedia, face with the knowledge that this website is in English, and still search "ویکیپدیا". Even if they do, the search engine will guide them to the proper venue. I just tested it: The right pane reveals the correct result. In the case of Latin, however, isn't it dead? I believe no one speaks this language anymore. flowing dreams ( talk page) 07:42, 1 October 2019 (UTC) reply
These redirects aren't aimed at "native speakers of Latin looking for Wikipedia in Latin". They're aimed at English speakers looking for the English-language article about Vicipaedia, but who may not know how to spell it correctly, since it's not an everyday word in English—and who may not realize that the article title is "Latin Wikipedia", not "Vicipaedia". So the question is, why do we not want redirects at likely attempts to spell it? Are we trying to make it harder for readers to find the articles they're looking for? Or is Wikipedia desperate to save the 260 bytes taken up by these four redirects? P Aculeius ( talk) 14:19, 1 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Hi, Aculeius. 😊 My participation in this RfD is only out of the community spirit. If I was desperate to save 260 bytes, I'd have resorted to desparate measures, like filing a lawsuit! (Believe me desparate measures are not pretty.) Things would have been very ugly if we didn't participate in any xFD simply because I was not desparate.
An English speaker looking for the English article about the Latin Wikipedia most probably searches "Latin Wikipedia". The kind of English speaker you have in mind is the kind that has attended a form of higher education that has brainwashed them to use Latin anywhere they can, to the detriment of the possibility of a happy life. flowing dreams ( talk page) 07:14, 2 October 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: G4 clearly does not apply here, since the redirects were not previously deleted as a result of the linked discussion. The outcome of that discussion was to retarget links that previously led to the main page of Wikipedia to go to the articles about the corresponding foreign-language versions of Wikipedia. At the time they were nominated, they all pointed to the main page instead. In the case of the Latin redirects, they now point to the article about Vicipaedia, which is exactly what they should have been doing according to outcome of that discussion. The reason redirects exist is to help people find articles for which they don't know the correct titles, and that includes plausible misspellings. All of these seem like plausible spelling mistakes for Vicipaedia—and they're also useful because the article they point to is not titled "Vicipaedia", but "Latin Wikipedia". Readers who remember the name vaguely are likely to search under these variations, so why are we deleting them? If they were not plausible spelling mistakes, I could see deleting them, but they account for only two variations: wrong gender, and ae→e. It seems to me that there should be a better reason than "well, somebody deleted them before, based on a discussion three years ago that called for a completely different result". P Aculeius ( talk) 14:57, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
While I think that your argument about the usefulness of the Latin redirects may be valid, the redirects nominated here were all deleted, as can be confirmed by looking at logs and reading through Tavix's argument which determined which redirects were to be deleted and which were to be redirected. That having been said, I also agree with the wider thrust of your argument against G4; G4 exists so that articles that are exact duplicates of previously deleted-by-discussion articles articles can be deleted without further disruption. This works because an article can be rewritten differently than the previous version in order to allow for consensus to change. The same cannot be said of a redirect, which will always be exactly the same as a previous version, so strictly enforcing G4 against redirects would never allow consensus to change. signed, Rosguill talk 15:32, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
But my point was, the previous discussion concluded that the redirects should be retargeted at articles about foreign-language Wikipedias, if they existed—not that they should be deleted. So there was no agreement to delete them in the first place, and for that reason alone G4 is inapplicable. Even if there had been no article, "Latin Wikipedia" in 2016—and there certainly should have been, since Vicipaedia itself has been around a long time—there is now, so the same rationale behind the 2016 discussion would lead to a "keep" result here. Again, G4 isn't relevant, since the previous discussion did not conclude that redirects for foreign-language encyclopedias should be deleted as a matter of policy—which would be the only reason to apply G4 here. And again, the question is: what is the benefit to Wikipedia of deleting redirects for existing, English-language articles based on plausible misspellings? There needs to be a better argument for deletion than "we deleted them before following on a discussion that was actually closed as 'keep and retarget'." P Aculeius ( talk) 20:31, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
If they had been deleted on a shaky basis, the proper channel to discuss this might have been WP:DRV, not merely recreating deleted content. I personally feel G4 would apply for redirects, even if they have no choice but to be fundamentally similar to the material that was deleted in the first place, because simply recreating them actually bypasses valuable discussion avenues that determine if they're worth having, not to mention if the deletions themselves were in error. "Recreate without saying a word" isn't a valid approach to restoring deleted content, even if said content should not have been deleted in the first place. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 03:52, 1 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Keep, both useful for the reader, and internally for WP:CITEWATCH (see current entry 24). Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 05:04, 13 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Redirects to Achachi Qala

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:18, 20 October 2019 (UTC) reply

None of these redirects are mentioned at the target, which is a disambiguation page. Steel1943 ( talk) 17:54, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Delete per nom, and further because none of the articles listed at the disambiguation page mention a river, so these redirects are of no help at all to readers. WP:R#D10 also applies since, if the river exists, it would be better to have a red link to encourage article creation. None of the redirects have significant incoming links or useful page history. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 19:16, 13 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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The Tea Room

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:42, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Drmies thinks that "underneath this redirect is a piece of spam; the article doesn't even mention the thing, and it seems to serve only as a semi-promotional redirect in Michele Romanow." DMacks ( talk) 16:17, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Template:New Zealand Intellignce Community

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The result of the discussion was delete. Consensus to delete this now the template is at the properly capitalized title -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 20:16, 17 October 2019 (UTC) reply

This template was created by a user who misspelled "Intelligence". User:Schwede66 moved it to the correct spelling, leaving this redirect. It will never be a valid redirect because of the misspelling. It was called only from Officials Committee for Domestic and External Security Co-ordination, where I have corrected the spelling to Schwede66's version, so this redirect is now useless. Akld guy ( talk) 15:10, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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General Bank of Canada and DirectCash Bank

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Meridia Health Services

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PlayStation 5 (version 2)

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per G6. -- Tavix ( talk) 20:45, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Implausible redirect name left over from the reversion of a draft move into the mainspace. — Searingjet ( talk) 12:16, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Detention Centers in India

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:37, 19 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Delete for now, as there is only one detention center (Assam). In future, if more centers are opened this could redirect to List of detention centers in India or similar. Zerach ( talk) 07:00, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Cmt: There are more than one. Cites availabe in the article arleady such as in Goa. DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 07:01, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Cite 4 to be precise -"Goa opened a detention centre for foreigners in May this year" DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 07:07, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Right, I have no objection to redirecting to a future (sourced) list or general article, just not to one specific element, it's too WP:SURPRISEing. Assam has been described as the "first" one recently, in some sources. Zerach ( talk) 07:18, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Yup, i understand. I don't mind if it goes for now. DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 02:42, 11 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Dong A

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Yên Lạc, Bắc Kạn

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Draft:Untitled Mr. Men & Little Miss film

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 ( talk) 20:43, 18 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Unnecessary redirect from draft space to article space. There is no substantive edit history behind the redirect beyond the redirect's creation and a bot fixing a double redirect. Aoi (青い) ( talk) 03:42, 2 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Herr Wolf

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wolf (name). (non-admin closure) Steel1943 ( talk) 20:44, 18 October 2019 (UTC) reply

I hardly think that Hitler had been called "Wolf". -- Soumyabrata ( talksubpages) 11:55, 2 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Gerber station

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:29, 19 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target Zerach ( talk) 02:54, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

It's in the diagram at Coast Starlight, although there's no more information there. Peter James ( talk) 18:38, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Congregational Church

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The result of the discussion was keep. Consensus is that capitalization difference is not enough to redirect from the primary topic -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 20:13, 17 October 2019 (UTC) reply

User:AlbanGeller changed the target from Congregational church to Congregational church (disambiguation), which resulted in a large number of articles (~50) pointing to the DAB when they probably meant the denomination. I'm personally neutral about which is the more appropriate target, so I'm bringing it up for discussion here. I undid AlbanGeller's edit in the meantime, on the assumption that the incoming links intended the denomination. Cnilep ( talk) 02:42, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

@ זָרַח: When you say "Keep as it was" do you mean "Retarget to Congregational church (disambiguation)"? Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 10:56, 13 October 2019 (UTC) reply
No, I mean target Congregational church, as it was originally (username changed). Fiamh ( talk, contribs) 11:02, 13 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Marysville station

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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==Title==

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 17:21, 19 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Just...why? I don't really see this being too useful. Invalid OS ( talk) 23:04, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Cambodia at the Southeast Asian Games

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The result of the discussion was restore. I won't draftify it myself per BDD's concerns, but will leave it as a normal editorial decision. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:39, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

I believe this redirect should be deleted. The target article is a completely different competition. ThiagoSimoes ( talk) 22:03, 25 September 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Restore the 09:23, 14 June 2015‎ PRehse version of the article and draftify. This was an inappropriate instance of deletion-through-redirection by an indefinitely blocked editor. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 18:19, 29 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Weak restore and draft per Black Falcon, though I'm a bit concerned with the idea of putting something in draft space without any indication anyone will work on it. Then again, I don't think it needs so much work before it could be back in mainspace. There seems to be only one other such article for "[Country] at the Southeast Asian Games", so if not for that, I would probably vote delete. I could still live with WP:REDLINK deletion as is. -- BDD ( talk) 20:04, 8 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Military career of Napoleon the Great

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. This is leaning close to "delete" for the accented version and close to a full "keep" for the unaccented. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:36, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Napoleon the Great does not appear to be a common alternative name for Napoleon in English. We don't have a redirect from it to Napoleon, so I don't see why we should have this redirect either. signed, Rosguill talk 20:30, 25 September 2019 (UTC) reply

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Snout-vent length

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Heimr

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Castejón–Bilbao railway

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List of Paper Mario series characters

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Yonkers Daily Voice

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🕵️

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Surgeon Simulation CPR

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:04, 20 October 2019 (UTC) reply

The game is called "Surgeon Simulator", it is rarely misspelt as "Surgeon Simulation". Lordtobi ( ) 19:49, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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UNC Jazz Press

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:03, 20 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target. Zerach ( talk) 19:46, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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North Point Senior Secondary Boarding School

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The result of the discussion was delete. A WP:TROUT to Sam Sailor for using WP:BLAR to create invalid redirects. Usually the result for these kind of cases is a restoration of the articles, but it's clear from this discussion that these articles would end up being deleted anyway, so there's no need for extra bureaucracy here. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:03, 20 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned there. Peter James ( talk) 18:25, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Disney's Game On

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:56, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned at the target article. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 18:13, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Sonic2006

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. -- BDD ( talk) 20:55, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Implausible redirect/ambiguous. I would R3, but this was not a "recent" creation. TheSandDoctor Talk 16:14, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply

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List of Wikipedia essays

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:44, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Cross-namespace redirect; unlikely search target (1 view in 90 days)) – xeno talk 13:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Soft redirect would be first choice, keep as is would be second choice, and generally oppose deletion. The title follows our naming conventions on lists and if someone is looking for a list of Wikipedia essays, a new user or researcher unfamiliar with WikiNamespaces, this is actually useful and not astonishing. It's one of the few times it seems to make sense to take people to relevant content in the project namespace. I prefer a soft redirect to make those looking for encyclopedic content aware that they're crossing namespaces to a page where editorial standards are slightly different. Wug· a·po·des19:27, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Keep no harm in keeping....was made when I was searching for a list of easays..... found nothing...so I made the directory and made a redirect just in case someone else was looking for the same thing WP:R#KEEP.-- Moxy 🍁 15:04, 29 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Speedily delete per nom. -- Soumyabrata ( talksubpages) 17:40, 29 September 2019 (UTC) reply
Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion why? -- Moxy 🍁 03:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
Yes but it's clear as stated many times is case like ths Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 112#RFC: On the controversy of the pseudo-namespace shortcuts.-- Moxy 🍁 03:31, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
This isn't pseudo-namespaced though, it's a cross-namespace redirect. – xeno talk 12:35, 2 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Previously deleted non-standard foreign names for Wikipedia

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The result of the discussion was delete most, no consensus on the four Latin ones. -- BDD ( talk) 20:47, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Previously deleted as a result of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 8#Foreign language redirects to Wikipedia, these redirects include 1) titles that are non-standard or otherwise incorrect for the target language (e.g. Vicipedium, 維基大典, WİKİPEDİA), not used in any language (e.g. Guiquipedia), or ambiguous between multiple possible Wikipedias (Википедиja). I would suggest deletion. signed, Rosguill talk 12:09, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply

The redirects listed above pointing to "Latin Wikipedia" are useless. Delete them. I think you're right about the others too. Andrew Dalby 19:45, 28 September 2019 (UTC) reply
... but no need for long discussion. I respect P Aculeius's opinion below. Keep the Latin ones, then. Andrew Dalby 11:21, 1 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Thanks for catching this, it looks like we have Википедија as a dab page and Википедиja as a redirect. Based on the results of plugging them into this site, it looks like the DAB version uses a Cyrillic keyboard for all letters, while the redirect version inexplicably switches to a Latin keyboard for the j and the a. signed, Rosguill talk 15:32, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy delete in compliance with WP:G4. The speedy deletion criterion says it all. flowing dreams ( talk page) 10:27, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Let's forget that I ever mentioned G4; I hate invoking laws that cannot justify themselves. Let's pretend this is the first time they are being discussed. I find it unlikely that, for example, a person who speaks Persian comes to English Wikipedia, face with the knowledge that this website is in English, and still search "ویکیپدیا". Even if they do, the search engine will guide them to the proper venue. I just tested it: The right pane reveals the correct result. In the case of Latin, however, isn't it dead? I believe no one speaks this language anymore. flowing dreams ( talk page) 07:42, 1 October 2019 (UTC) reply
These redirects aren't aimed at "native speakers of Latin looking for Wikipedia in Latin". They're aimed at English speakers looking for the English-language article about Vicipaedia, but who may not know how to spell it correctly, since it's not an everyday word in English—and who may not realize that the article title is "Latin Wikipedia", not "Vicipaedia". So the question is, why do we not want redirects at likely attempts to spell it? Are we trying to make it harder for readers to find the articles they're looking for? Or is Wikipedia desperate to save the 260 bytes taken up by these four redirects? P Aculeius ( talk) 14:19, 1 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Hi, Aculeius. 😊 My participation in this RfD is only out of the community spirit. If I was desperate to save 260 bytes, I'd have resorted to desparate measures, like filing a lawsuit! (Believe me desparate measures are not pretty.) Things would have been very ugly if we didn't participate in any xFD simply because I was not desparate.
An English speaker looking for the English article about the Latin Wikipedia most probably searches "Latin Wikipedia". The kind of English speaker you have in mind is the kind that has attended a form of higher education that has brainwashed them to use Latin anywhere they can, to the detriment of the possibility of a happy life. flowing dreams ( talk page) 07:14, 2 October 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: G4 clearly does not apply here, since the redirects were not previously deleted as a result of the linked discussion. The outcome of that discussion was to retarget links that previously led to the main page of Wikipedia to go to the articles about the corresponding foreign-language versions of Wikipedia. At the time they were nominated, they all pointed to the main page instead. In the case of the Latin redirects, they now point to the article about Vicipaedia, which is exactly what they should have been doing according to outcome of that discussion. The reason redirects exist is to help people find articles for which they don't know the correct titles, and that includes plausible misspellings. All of these seem like plausible spelling mistakes for Vicipaedia—and they're also useful because the article they point to is not titled "Vicipaedia", but "Latin Wikipedia". Readers who remember the name vaguely are likely to search under these variations, so why are we deleting them? If they were not plausible spelling mistakes, I could see deleting them, but they account for only two variations: wrong gender, and ae→e. It seems to me that there should be a better reason than "well, somebody deleted them before, based on a discussion three years ago that called for a completely different result". P Aculeius ( talk) 14:57, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
While I think that your argument about the usefulness of the Latin redirects may be valid, the redirects nominated here were all deleted, as can be confirmed by looking at logs and reading through Tavix's argument which determined which redirects were to be deleted and which were to be redirected. That having been said, I also agree with the wider thrust of your argument against G4; G4 exists so that articles that are exact duplicates of previously deleted-by-discussion articles articles can be deleted without further disruption. This works because an article can be rewritten differently than the previous version in order to allow for consensus to change. The same cannot be said of a redirect, which will always be exactly the same as a previous version, so strictly enforcing G4 against redirects would never allow consensus to change. signed, Rosguill talk 15:32, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
But my point was, the previous discussion concluded that the redirects should be retargeted at articles about foreign-language Wikipedias, if they existed—not that they should be deleted. So there was no agreement to delete them in the first place, and for that reason alone G4 is inapplicable. Even if there had been no article, "Latin Wikipedia" in 2016—and there certainly should have been, since Vicipaedia itself has been around a long time—there is now, so the same rationale behind the 2016 discussion would lead to a "keep" result here. Again, G4 isn't relevant, since the previous discussion did not conclude that redirects for foreign-language encyclopedias should be deleted as a matter of policy—which would be the only reason to apply G4 here. And again, the question is: what is the benefit to Wikipedia of deleting redirects for existing, English-language articles based on plausible misspellings? There needs to be a better argument for deletion than "we deleted them before following on a discussion that was actually closed as 'keep and retarget'." P Aculeius ( talk) 20:31, 30 September 2019 (UTC) reply
If they had been deleted on a shaky basis, the proper channel to discuss this might have been WP:DRV, not merely recreating deleted content. I personally feel G4 would apply for redirects, even if they have no choice but to be fundamentally similar to the material that was deleted in the first place, because simply recreating them actually bypasses valuable discussion avenues that determine if they're worth having, not to mention if the deletions themselves were in error. "Recreate without saying a word" isn't a valid approach to restoring deleted content, even if said content should not have been deleted in the first place. Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 03:52, 1 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Keep, both useful for the reader, and internally for WP:CITEWATCH (see current entry 24). Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 05:04, 13 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Redirects to Achachi Qala

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 00:18, 20 October 2019 (UTC) reply

None of these redirects are mentioned at the target, which is a disambiguation page. Steel1943 ( talk) 17:54, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Delete per nom, and further because none of the articles listed at the disambiguation page mention a river, so these redirects are of no help at all to readers. WP:R#D10 also applies since, if the river exists, it would be better to have a red link to encourage article creation. None of the redirects have significant incoming links or useful page history. -- Black Falcon ( talk) 19:16, 13 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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The Tea Room

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- BDD ( talk) 20:42, 22 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Drmies thinks that "underneath this redirect is a piece of spam; the article doesn't even mention the thing, and it seems to serve only as a semi-promotional redirect in Michele Romanow." DMacks ( talk) 16:17, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Template:New Zealand Intellignce Community

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The result of the discussion was delete. Consensus to delete this now the template is at the properly capitalized title -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 20:16, 17 October 2019 (UTC) reply

This template was created by a user who misspelled "Intelligence". User:Schwede66 moved it to the correct spelling, leaving this redirect. It will never be a valid redirect because of the misspelling. It was called only from Officials Committee for Domestic and External Security Co-ordination, where I have corrected the spelling to Schwede66's version, so this redirect is now useless. Akld guy ( talk) 15:10, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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General Bank of Canada and DirectCash Bank

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Meridia Health Services

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PlayStation 5 (version 2)

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The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per G6. -- Tavix ( talk) 20:45, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Implausible redirect name left over from the reversion of a draft move into the mainspace. — Searingjet ( talk) 12:16, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Detention Centers in India

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:37, 19 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Delete for now, as there is only one detention center (Assam). In future, if more centers are opened this could redirect to List of detention centers in India or similar. Zerach ( talk) 07:00, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Cmt: There are more than one. Cites availabe in the article arleady such as in Goa. DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 07:01, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Cite 4 to be precise -"Goa opened a detention centre for foreigners in May this year" DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 07:07, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Right, I have no objection to redirecting to a future (sourced) list or general article, just not to one specific element, it's too WP:SURPRISEing. Assam has been described as the "first" one recently, in some sources. Zerach ( talk) 07:18, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply
Yup, i understand. I don't mind if it goes for now. DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 02:42, 11 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Dong A

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Yên Lạc, Bắc Kạn

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Draft:Untitled Mr. Men & Little Miss film

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 ( talk) 20:43, 18 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Unnecessary redirect from draft space to article space. There is no substantive edit history behind the redirect beyond the redirect's creation and a bot fixing a double redirect. Aoi (青い) ( talk) 03:42, 2 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Herr Wolf

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wolf (name). (non-admin closure) Steel1943 ( talk) 20:44, 18 October 2019 (UTC) reply

I hardly think that Hitler had been called "Wolf". -- Soumyabrata ( talksubpages) 11:55, 2 October 2019 (UTC) reply

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Gerber station

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix ( talk) 23:29, 19 October 2019 (UTC) reply

Not mentioned in target Zerach ( talk) 02:54, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

It's in the diagram at Coast Starlight, although there's no more information there. Peter James ( talk) 18:38, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Congregational Church

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The result of the discussion was keep. Consensus is that capitalization difference is not enough to redirect from the primary topic -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 20:13, 17 October 2019 (UTC) reply

User:AlbanGeller changed the target from Congregational church to Congregational church (disambiguation), which resulted in a large number of articles (~50) pointing to the DAB when they probably meant the denomination. I'm personally neutral about which is the more appropriate target, so I'm bringing it up for discussion here. I undid AlbanGeller's edit in the meantime, on the assumption that the incoming links intended the denomination. Cnilep ( talk) 02:42, 10 October 2019 (UTC) reply

@ זָרַח: When you say "Keep as it was" do you mean "Retarget to Congregational church (disambiguation)"? Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 10:56, 13 October 2019 (UTC) reply
No, I mean target Congregational church, as it was originally (username changed). Fiamh ( talk, contribs) 11:02, 13 October 2019 (UTC) reply
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Marysville station

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