Anyone interested in joining? 48JCL TALK 03:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
This project is probably more active and should have users able to answer the question. Like I just posted at WPTAIWAN, (a) As noted since 2013, our actual article on the " Republic of China calendar" entirely omits discussion on how dates before 1912 are handled in the system. Presumably, they aren't handled at all and official practice is to just use BCE/CE Julian/Gregorian dating or the old imperial lunisolar eras. However, we currently have nearly every year of human history back to 719 BC tagged with a "Minguo calendar" equivalent using the form "NNNN before ROC" followed by "民前NNNN年". Is that actually based on anything real whatsoever? Is it the right phrasing in both languages? If it's real, how does it handle the Julian/Gregorian conversion? If it ain't, what was the last date officially using the old lunisolar months? (b) Those 4000ish year entries are possibly the most prominent use of this system in the English language but, to the extent it can be figured out, is the actual WP:ENGLISH WP:COMMONNAME of the system "Minguo calendar" like the infobox has, "Republic of China calendar" like our page has (partially based on mistaken parallelism with North Korea), or "ROC era" like Ngram suggests it might be (although also based on lots of discussion of mainland topics during the period 1912–1949)? Whichever one it is, the page and the 4000ish applications of the infobox should both be correct and should both agree. — LlywelynII 20:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Kindly direct your comments to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Years#Chinese dating (WP:BIAS/WP:UNDUE) but our current year-by-year handling of the Chinese calendar is somewhere between amusingly bad and nonsensical misrepresentation. We should fix it. Some solutions are obvious (use imperial era numbering), others will require some consensus building (handling regnal dating before the Han, how to appropriately abbreviate dating by the supposed ascension of the Yellow Emperor, &c.). — LlywelynII 22:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC) (To be moved from The Prehistoric Culture of China shortly). Pretty major topic, was missing until a student of mine translated it from zh wiki just now. Since it is quite important, I am mentioning it here for folks to review and copyedit and so on. Might make for a good WP:DYK perhaps? Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 08:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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![]() An editor has requested that Premier of the People's Republic of China be moved to Premier of China, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. The Account 2 ( talk) 17:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC) Requested move at Talk:BRICS#Requested move 23 June 2024![]() Requested move at Talk:History of the People's Republic of China (1949–1976)#Requested move 16 June 2024![]() Requested move at Talk:Macau#Requested move 24 June 2024![]() Gwoyeu Romatzyh under Featured Article ReviewI have nominated Gwoyeu Romatzyh for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. George Ho ( talk) 21:43, 25 June 2024 (UTC) Requested move at Talk:President of the Republic of China#Requested move 25 June 2024![]() Greetings! Over the past few years, there have been no objections to converting Latin letters and Arabic numerals to ASCII from their full-width forms when they appear in horizontal Chinese, Korean, or Japanese text. I've raised it on MOS and Wikiproject talk pages and made many cleanup edits to articles. I'm making a push to finish that cleanup, and I've been noticing that punctuation, currency symbols, and spaces have the same problem. It looks weird to have the full-width versions mixed in, and they sometimes leak into English-language text. My plan was to start converting punctuation and currency symbols in horizontal text (except where the characters themselves are being discussed) when the July 1 database dump becomes available in a week or two. If you have any questions, objections, concerns, or suggestions, please let me know! Open-circle full stop is not included; the affected characters are: " # $ % & ' * + - / @ \ ^ _ ` ¢ ¥ ₩ < = > | ¦ and the space character. -- Beland ( talk) 17:45, 29 June 2024 (UTC) Merger discussion for Sexagenary cycle, Heavenly Stems, and Earthly Branches
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Anyone interested in joining? 48JCL TALK 03:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
This project is probably more active and should have users able to answer the question. Like I just posted at WPTAIWAN, (a) As noted since 2013, our actual article on the " Republic of China calendar" entirely omits discussion on how dates before 1912 are handled in the system. Presumably, they aren't handled at all and official practice is to just use BCE/CE Julian/Gregorian dating or the old imperial lunisolar eras. However, we currently have nearly every year of human history back to 719 BC tagged with a "Minguo calendar" equivalent using the form "NNNN before ROC" followed by "民前NNNN年". Is that actually based on anything real whatsoever? Is it the right phrasing in both languages? If it's real, how does it handle the Julian/Gregorian conversion? If it ain't, what was the last date officially using the old lunisolar months? (b) Those 4000ish year entries are possibly the most prominent use of this system in the English language but, to the extent it can be figured out, is the actual WP:ENGLISH WP:COMMONNAME of the system "Minguo calendar" like the infobox has, "Republic of China calendar" like our page has (partially based on mistaken parallelism with North Korea), or "ROC era" like Ngram suggests it might be (although also based on lots of discussion of mainland topics during the period 1912–1949)? Whichever one it is, the page and the 4000ish applications of the infobox should both be correct and should both agree. — LlywelynII 20:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Kindly direct your comments to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Years#Chinese dating (WP:BIAS/WP:UNDUE) but our current year-by-year handling of the Chinese calendar is somewhere between amusingly bad and nonsensical misrepresentation. We should fix it. Some solutions are obvious (use imperial era numbering), others will require some consensus building (handling regnal dating before the Han, how to appropriately abbreviate dating by the supposed ascension of the Yellow Emperor, &c.). — LlywelynII 22:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC) (To be moved from The Prehistoric Culture of China shortly). Pretty major topic, was missing until a student of mine translated it from zh wiki just now. Since it is quite important, I am mentioning it here for folks to review and copyedit and so on. Might make for a good WP:DYK perhaps? Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here 08:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Chang Hsueh-liang#Requested move 6 June 2024![]() ![]() Nomination for deletion of Template:Chinese conflicts
![]() An editor has requested that Premier of the People's Republic of China be moved to Premier of China, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. The Account 2 ( talk) 17:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC) Requested move at Talk:BRICS#Requested move 23 June 2024![]() Requested move at Talk:History of the People's Republic of China (1949–1976)#Requested move 16 June 2024![]() Requested move at Talk:Macau#Requested move 24 June 2024![]() Gwoyeu Romatzyh under Featured Article ReviewI have nominated Gwoyeu Romatzyh for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. George Ho ( talk) 21:43, 25 June 2024 (UTC) Requested move at Talk:President of the Republic of China#Requested move 25 June 2024![]() Greetings! Over the past few years, there have been no objections to converting Latin letters and Arabic numerals to ASCII from their full-width forms when they appear in horizontal Chinese, Korean, or Japanese text. I've raised it on MOS and Wikiproject talk pages and made many cleanup edits to articles. I'm making a push to finish that cleanup, and I've been noticing that punctuation, currency symbols, and spaces have the same problem. It looks weird to have the full-width versions mixed in, and they sometimes leak into English-language text. My plan was to start converting punctuation and currency symbols in horizontal text (except where the characters themselves are being discussed) when the July 1 database dump becomes available in a week or two. If you have any questions, objections, concerns, or suggestions, please let me know! Open-circle full stop is not included; the affected characters are: " # $ % & ' * + - / @ \ ^ _ ` ¢ ¥ ₩ < = > | ¦ and the space character. -- Beland ( talk) 17:45, 29 June 2024 (UTC) Merger discussion for Sexagenary cycle, Heavenly Stems, and Earthly Branches
Requested move at Talk:Seal (East Asia)#Requested move 3 July 2024![]() |