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The result of the discussion was: Merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:1430s establishments in Poland to Category:15th-century establishments in Poland
• Propose merging Category:1460s establishments in Poland to Category:15th-century establishments in Poland
• Propose merging Category:1480s establishments in Poland to Category:15th-century establishments in Poland
• Propose merging Category:1490s establishments in Poland to Category:15th-century establishments in Poland

Nominator's rationale: New cluster of one, two or three-item categories. As always, navigation of Wikipedia is not aided by obsessively filtering everything down into narrow categories of just one or two articles each -- these would be fine if there were a lot of things to file in each of them, but with only seven articles total across these four categories combined, that's too narrow and they don't need to be categorized more specifically than by century until there are a lot more things. Bearcat ( talk) 19:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Comment There are similar one, two or three-item categories for other countries like Denmark, France, Ireland, etc., for the same time period. Logical would be to either keep these categories, or merge those as well. Marcin 303 ( talk) 10:02, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply

I can only deal with categories I've noticed. In this case, I noticed these categories because you left each of them filed in at least one redlinked (i.e. nonexistent) parent category that I had to clean up from the redlinked category report — which means I saw these, and didn't see any others that you might consider equivalent. If this closes with a merge, then obviously you're perfectly free to propose those other categories for similar merges on the same grounds — but I nominated these categories because they were the ones I saw in the process of cleaning up an error you made. Bearcat ( talk) 18:37, 21 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge per nom. – Aidan721 ( talk) 14:54, 20 January 2024 (UTC) reply

  Support per nom Mason ( talk) 02:08, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply

  Oppose Size is not a reason to merge everything to a century category and make navigation difficult. Small categories are useful. Dimadick ( talk) 08:59, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply

  Too-small categories are what makes navigation difficult, so the second part of your rationale contradicts the first. Bearcat ( talk) 16:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge; no objection against recreation if it can be appropriately populated. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: containerise. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:36, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:English-language television shows ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete, there are - not surprisingly - no less than 18,000 articles here, this is just categorizing for the sake of itself and not to help readers to easily find the most related articles. Categorizing by English language may be well be useful on other Wikipedias but not here at en.wp. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:27, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose containerization. I agree that this isn't all that useful in its existing form, but subbing them out by specific country of production would result in more useful and defining groupings of genuinely related articles. Bearcat ( talk) 19:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply
• Diffuse as proposed by Bearcat but also by genre, year, and studio, following the example of Category:English-language films. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 11:15, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep: This category is to help navigating categories like "shows by language" etc. I know that many people view English as default language simply due to sheer dominance of Hollywood in the Western world, but it is not, and it shouldn't be given such treatment on Wikipedia, and should instead be treated as any other language. That is, it should have its own language category for shows, films, songs, etc. Otherwise, you send the message that English is default language of media, and all other media should go into their own seperate language categories. Artemis Andromeda ( talk) 01:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • It is the opposite, English language is very dominant especially on en.wp and everyone will understand that. That the proposal sends the message that English is defunct is absurd. Marcocapelle ( talk) 06:30, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply
    • I am guessing Artemis Andromeda meant "default", not "defunct"? House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:54, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply
      • Hi. Yes, I meant "default". Autocorrect did me dirty there Artemis Andromeda ( talk) 03:56, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply
• Containerize per Bearcat. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:54, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply
• Containerize per Bearcat. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 19:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Philosophy by country. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:52, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Western philosophy by country to Category:Philosophy by country

Nominator's rationale: merge, there is no reason to ghettoize subcategories of western countries in a separate subcategory. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Support per nom Mason ( talk) 23:05, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Western philosophy ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete, 95% of the philosophy articles is about western philosophy, this is entirely indiscriminate. Move the article Western philosophy directly under Category:Philosophy. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Support per nom Mason ( talk) 23:06, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete/rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose renaming Category:AJR (band) to Category:AJR
• Propose renaming Category:AJR (band) albums to Category:AJR albums
• Propose renaming Category:AJR (band) songs to Category:AJR songs
• Propose renaming Category:AJR (band) album covers to Category:AJR album covers

Nominator's rationale: Per Talk:AJR#Requested_move_8_December_2023. Ineligible for speedy renaming. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 14:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Speedy discussion has been saved here. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 14:25, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose. Fails WP:C2D: it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator. Categories do not follow the same naming disambiguation conventions as articles. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• In full discussion we may put speedy criteria aside though. Marcocapelle ( talk) 19:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

C2D no longer applies as this isn't a speedy proposal anymore. QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 06:16, 21 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete Category:AJR (band) per WP:OCEPON; rename the rest. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars ^{Talk to me} 17:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Support deletion of the parent category, the songs and albums categories are already interlinked, thanks to the templates. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC) reply
• Support Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars's proposal (i.e. delete Category:AJR (band) and rename the rest as nominated). Agree that C2D does not apply (as a mark against the proposal) because it is not up for speedy. House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 21:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: Merge ( non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:38, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:1920s murders in Northern Ireland ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:1920s murders in Ireland, Category:1920s crimes in Northern Ireland, and Category:20th-century murders in Northern Ireland
• Propose merging Category:1940 murders in the Republic of Ireland ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:1940 crimes in the Republic of Ireland, Category:1940s murders in Ireland, and Category:20th-century murders in the Republic of Ireland (and Category:1940 murders in Europe; added 16:01, 19 January 2024 (UTC))
• Propose merging Category:1940 murders in Ireland ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:1940s murders in Ireland
• Propose merging Category:1942 murders in the Republic of Ireland ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:1942 crimes in the Republic of Ireland, Category:1940s murders in Ireland, and Category:20th-century murders in the Republic of Ireland (and Category:1942 murders in Europe; added 16:01, 19 January 2024 (UTC))
• Propose merging Category:1942 murders in Ireland ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:1940s murders in Ireland
• Propose merging Category:1940s murders in the Republic of Ireland ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:1940s murders in Ireland
• Propose merging Category:1940s murders in Northern Ireland ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:1940s murders in Ireland, Category:1960s crimes in Northern Ireland, and Category:20th-century murders in Northern Ireland
• Propose merging Category:1960s murders in Northern Ireland ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:1960s murders in Ireland, Category:1960s crimes in Northern Ireland, and Category:20th-century murders in Northern Ireland

Nominator's rationale: Not a very useful tree before the 1970s. WP:NARROW. Only 1-3 articles in the nominated categories for upmerging. No need to merge Northern Ireland categories to UK categories as they are already in YYYY murders in the UK. – Aidan721 ( talk) 13:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per nom, but presumably Category:1940 murders in Europe and Category:1942 murders in Europe are also relevant merge targets for the RoI categories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 15:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Yes, good catch. Added above. – Aidan721 ( talk) 16:01, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:50, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Spaceflight articles with incomplete B-Class checklists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Spaceflight articles needing attention to accessibility ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Spaceflight articles needing attention to coverage and accuracy ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Spaceflight articles needing attention to grammar ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Spaceflight articles needing attention to referencing and citation ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Spaceflight articles needing attention to structure ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Spaceflight articles needing attention to supporting materials ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: These categories were removed from the template with this edit. Gonnym ( talk) 11:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Tropical cyclone articles with incomplete B-Class checklists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category removed from template with this edit. Gonnym ( talk) 11:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:48, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Weather articles with incomplete B-Class checklists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category removed from template with this edit. Gonnym ( talk) 11:35, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:48, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Limited recognition articles with incomplete B-Class checklists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to referencing and citation ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to coverage and accuracy ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to structure ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to grammar ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to supporting materials ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: These categories were removed from the template in this edit. Gonnym ( talk) 11:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:47, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Cricket articles with incomplete B-Class checklists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Not sure when this was last used but after this edit, the project does not have a b checklist anymore. Gonnym ( talk) 11:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:47, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Film articles needing attention to referencing and citation ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Film articles needing attention to coverage and accuracy ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Film articles needing attention to structure ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Film articles needing attention to grammar ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Film articles needing attention to supporting materials ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Film articles with incomplete B-Class checklists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: These and all of their sub-categories are now permanent empty after this edit which removed the b-list criteria from the template. Gonnym ( talk) 11:23, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Feel free to G7 the lot if they are no longer required (if possible). Thanks. PC78 ( talk) 20:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. Useless categories. Dimadick ( talk) 09:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:Novels by city of setting and Category:Novels set in Russia. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Novels set in Russia by city to Category:Novels by city of setting and Category:Novels set in Russia

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle ( talk) 11:04, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

support per nom Mason ( talk) 23:05, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Men from Punjab, Pakistan by occupation ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Propose deleting Category:Men from Punjab, India by occupation ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: We don't need to have an intersection for gender, occupation, and city. Mason ( talk) 05:12, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete per nom (except Punjab is a region, not a city). Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:25, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose deleting Category:Loro Piana ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Category is unhelpful for navigation as the only two pages in it are the designer and the brand. Mason ( talk) 05:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete per WP:OCEPON. The two articles are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:45, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Muslim fashion designers to Category:Fashion designers

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between religion and occupation per WP:EGRS. Mason ( talk) 05:07, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Support per nom, but just delete because the articles are already in the tree of Category:Fashion designers by nationality. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:28, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Indian fashion designers. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:45, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Indian male fashion designers to Category:Indian fashion designers

Nominator's rationale: Non defining intersection per WP:EGRS. Note that there isn't a Category:Male fashion designers Mason ( talk) 05:05, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:29, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: reverse merge/rename/keep.

• Reverse merge Category:Property companies of Ireland
• Rename Category:Property companies of Italy
• Keep Category:Property companies of Malaysia
• Rename Category:Property companies of the United Arab Emirates
• Keep Category:Property companies of the United Kingdom (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkl talk 21:43, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Property companies of Ireland to Category:Real estate companies of Ireland
• Propose renaming Category:Property companies of Italy to Category:Real estate companies of Italy
• Propose renaming Category:Property companies of Malaysia to Category:Real estate companies of Malaysia
• Propose renaming Category:Property companies of the United Arab Emirates to Category:Real estate companies of the United Arab Emirates
• Propose renaming Category:Property companies of the United Kingdom to Category:Real estate companies of the United Kingdom

Nominator's rationale: Except for these, all other sibling categories in Category:Real estate companies by country are named as "Real estate companies of Country", not "Property companies of Country". Ireland seems to be the one oddity where both categories seem to exist with "real estate" sitting as a subcategory of "property" -- with the added bonus that they're both sitting in the by-country category as sibling categories for the same country. In the other countries, "property" exists instead of "real estate" rather than alongside it, but the divergence has caused several real estate companies in those countries to get left in the Category:Real estate companies parent due to the seeming lack of a country-specific subcategory. Bearcat ( talk) 17:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC) reply

support per nom Mason ( talk) 23:05, 3 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Rename Italy and UAE, reverse merge and redirect for Ireland, keep UK & Malaysia as WP:ENGVAR. As a young Brit, hearing "real estate agent" on TV sounded like nonsense – what, as opposed to a pretend estate agent?? – Fayenatic London 17:45, 4 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkl talk 19:49, 11 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seawolf35 ^{T-- C} 04:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• @ Fayenatic london, Bearcat, and Smasongarrison: shouldn't the British, Irish and Malaysian categories become "estate agents", aligned with Estate agent? Marcocapelle ( talk) 16:41, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • No, Estate agent is not the same as property company. Sorry for any confusion; I only mentioned agents as the first context in which I ever heard the phrase "real estate". – Fayenatic London 21:42, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated with no prejudice against recreation if the category can be appropriately populated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:17th-century Korean novelists to Category:17th-century Korean writers and Category:Korean novelists and Category:17th-century novelists
• Propose merging Category:16th-century Korean novelists to Category:16th-century Korean writers and Category:Korean novelists and Category:16th-century novelists

Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category, upmerge for now. Mason ( talk) 03:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge for now, without objection to recreate the categories when more articles are available. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:15th-century Korean astronomers to Category:Medieval Korean astronomers and Category:15th-century astronomers and Category:15th-century Korean scientists
• Propose merging Category:16th-century Korean astronomers to Category:Korean astronomers and Category:16th-century astronomers and Category:16th-century Korean scientists
• Propose merging Category:17th-century Korean astronomers to Category:Korean astronomers and Category:17th-century astronomers and Category:17th-century Korean scientists
• Propose merging Category:18th-century Korean astronomers to Category:Korean astronomers and Category:18th-century astronomers and Category:18th-century Korean scientists
• Propose merging Category:19th-century Korean astronomers to Category:Korean astronomers and Category:19th-century astronomers and Category:19th-century Korean scientists
• Propose merging Category:20th-century Korean astronomers to Category:Korean astronomers and Category:20th-century astronomers and Category:20th-century Korean scientists

Nominator's rationale: not enough people to diffuse by century. There's at most 3 per category. Mason ( talk) 02:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply
• Merge per nom. toobigtokale ( talk) 02:34, 23 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 08:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The category which this template populates was deleted as a result of CFD, and there are no inclusions. Ymblanter ( talk) 22:08, 11 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Delete per nomination. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 00:38, 14 January 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete per nom, also unproposed, and extremely low use (1 article). Her Pegship ( ?) 20:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete per precedent. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) House Blaster ( talk · he/him) 02:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Propose merging Category:Rebel groups in Myanmar to Category:Paramilitary organisations based in Myanmar

Nominator's rationale: These two categories overlap considerably and pretty much serve the same purpose. I know that not all paramilitary organizations are rebel groups but there are no articles in either that can be distinguished in that way. That said I would be opposed the creation of a separate category for the ethnic armed organisations (EAOs) as there is a distinction between them and WWII resistance movements like the Anti-Fascist Organisation. Charles Essie ( talk) 00:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

• Oppose, part of series under Category:Rebel groups by country and it is not clear why Myanmar would be an exception in this tree. Marcocapelle ( talk) 08:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply
• Oppose for the same reason as above- better to be consistent with others. I think a subcategory for EAOs would definitely be helpful. EmeraldRange ( talk/ contribs) 20:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC) reply

  You're right. Proposal withdrawn. Charles Essie ( talk) 03:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply

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