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Merge per Revelation
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Category:Novels set in 20th-century Russia
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Nominator's rationale:delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. The subcategory is already in
Category:Novels set in Russia so there is no reason to merge.
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Support per nom
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Unhelpful for navigation to isolate these two categories. If kept, it should be renamed to Criminals by gender, per
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Category:2019 crimes in Northern Ireland
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Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article. The current tree is for crimes by decade in Northern Ireland. –
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Nominator's rationale: Small category that should either be upmerged or renamed to 15th-century Aztec nobility per content.
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Fine with me
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Category:People of colonial Arizona
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Nominator's rationale: Merge per previous Cfds on "People of colonial Maine" and "People of colonial West Viriginia".
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The result of the discussion was:merge to
Category:Toponymy. There is agreement from most participants that this is an outcome they would be happy with.
(non-admin closure)HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale: Your reason(s) for the proposed rename."Place names" is a highly confusing name for category, because all place names can pe put there, and I have already removed a couple. As I undertand it is a subcat of toponymics. Therefore "Place naming" is correct category name, so that individual place names will not land into it. -
Altenmann>talk 20:24, 10 January 2024 (UTC)reply
While we are here it looks like some subcategories need some beating as well . For example, the whole
Category:Hokkien place names is not about place names, but about places, i.e., it must be renamed into
Category:Hokkien places. Can someone take a general look? I.e., many articles in this category tree are about places, not about names. -
Altenmann>talk 21:24, 10 January 2024 (UTC)reply
I don't think that a "general look" is required. Categories that need to be renamed should simply be nominated.
Marcocapelle (
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I was taking about "general look" because there are many of them and there must be some consistency if renaming will be needed. At the first glance the whole enchilada of "*place names*" categories must be renamed, because vast majority of articles are about places, not about names, and articles/categories about place names should be narrowed in scope to topomymy. -
Altenmann>talk 22:00, 10 January 2024 (UTC)reply
The articles in category are about places, not about names. At best, it must be
Category:Places with Hokkien names, if this distinction is important. Anyway, thanks for clarification. -
Altenmann>talk 23:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm seeing some of the subcategories as being
WP:SHAREDNAME because they're being grouped by the name rather than by anything defining. But that can be for another nom. -
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Category:Paralympic Sport Awards — Best Female winners
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Nominator's rationale: Merge and rename. This award is now called "PARA SPORT Awards" per
[1]Mason (
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Substantively I can't say anything meaningful here, neither pro nor con. I wonder however if PARA SPORT really needs to be capitalized, it seems merely a style issue.
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That's a good question. I don't know if its stylistic. I'll see if I can find some articles describing the award.
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Category:Public image by individuals
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Oppose per
WP:C2D. The articles, especially in the politicians subcategory, are consistently named "Public image of ...". If something needs to be changed here (which I do not expect) then it should at least apply to the subcategories simultaneously.
Marcocapelle (
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How would you feel about a reverse merge?
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Oppose. Public image is not the same as Criticism. Criticism can be a part of Public Image and vice versa. Moreover, Public Image articles of people outside politicians exist and are emerging.
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Category:International Organisation of Good Templars people
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The result of the discussion was:delete. (Noting for the record that the only keep !voter changed their vote in the relist period.)
(non-admin closure)HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale:delete per
WP:OCASSOC and we do not categorize people by fraternity.
Marcocapelle (
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* Keep. We do categorize people by fraternity, e.g.,
Category:Members of fraternal orders. In the case of the I.O.G.T., it is a "fraternal organization" whose scope is that of a "temperance organization". Its members are always temperance advocates/activists. For example, see
Martha B. O'Donnell whose article, coincidentally, I started yesterday before being notified about the proposed category deletion. --
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Delete - I've added the names of all the people in this category into the article itself in a Notable people section. Retaining the category isn't significant to me, so I don't want to hold up the deletion of something that others think should happen. Signing off as the cat creator, --
Rosiestep (
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Comment Categories for Lions and Odd Fellows were deleted by consensus at CFD
here and
here, so them being recreated (in good faith I'm sure) under a different name doesn't really show a consensus for this category. -
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Delete Non-defining textbook
WP:OCASSOC. No objection to more narrow category for leadership in the organization though. -
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Category:Secret millionaire philanthropists
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The fact that they were secret millionnaires is defining, it is the sole reason for their notability. I have more doubts about the philanthropists part, because donations from one's will are fairly common.
Marcocapelle (
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I'm not sure if secret millionaires is defining. There are a "lot" of millionaires out there. If it stays, it needs really clear criteria because we don't have any other secret occupations like this.
Mason (
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heh, the problem of English language :-). I thought the defining part is "secret philantropists" (although the proper term would be anonymous philantropists).... Or not..
Sylvia Bloom was a secret millionaire. Do we have
category:Secret millionaires? I have a couple fictional secret millionaries: some plots revolve around them. -
Altenmann>talk 23:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Both secret wealth and (secret) giving are defining, in my opinion. A secret millionarie who leaves all to children is too routine, not interesting to news media. A secret millionarie who, surprizing all, leaves most or all wealth to charities that gets media coverage and becomes notable.
Yamfri /ˈjæm.friː/ (
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I think that at best, this should be listified instead as it's too vague without a TON of context.
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Just delete per all targets already being in the parent target cat. This one feels like a
WP:SUBJECTIVECAT issue.
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Delete per Respublik. –
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Rename per nom. –
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Rename per ample recent precedent.
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Category:Films about the Abrahamic religions
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Nominator's rationale: This has another parent
Category:Abrahamic religions, but IMHO is is not a useful addition to that hierarchy. Maybe
Dimadick intended to build an expanded hierarchy around this intersection when he created this last May, but it is not currently helpful. –
FayenaticLondon 13:53, 18 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Support,
Abrahamic religions is a useful term in the study of religions, but it is not as if the three religions have so much in common that it justifies a common category tree for all sorts of topics.
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Support per nom. This may have been a useful intersection if there were films that specifically were about all Abrahamic religions. That does not appear as each film is specific to Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. –
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Category:Fictional characters with volcanic abilities
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Nominator's rationale: Clear
WP:NARROWCAT with a very small focus. There is not much importance to whether a fire ability is, specifically, volcano-based. While the obvious merge target is fire, it can also be merged to others if necessary.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 07:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)reply
When someone says volcanic it implies heat/lava, that's just a common sense thing to me. Volcanism is, specifically, the eruption of molten rock. However, for the record I support adding the character to both categories if needed. This is still a NARROWCAT.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 23:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge Manually to parents per
WP:NARROWCAT and
WP:NONDEFINING. The only 1 of the 4 characters who seems to routinely use this capability is
Magma (comics) while the other 3 don't seem defined by the capability. -
RevelationDirect (
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Support alt merge per RevelationDirect.
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Support alt merge per RevelationDirect. HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale: This is just confusing and vague. Seems like a
WP:SUBJECTIVECAT if there ever was one.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 06:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. The subcats help explain what this is about: objects in fiction, imagination, or supposition that, you know, don't actually exist.
StAnselm (
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I don't believe they do. For example, is an unbuilt structure really a "nonexistent thing", or does that only encompass things that cannot exist, like a circular square? Can a nonexistent thing be a concept or does it have to be an object? Does it have to have previously existed or can it just be something that could exist?
Nonexistent objects is about a particular philosophical theory and has nothing to do with this category.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 07:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Leaning to support, the fact that the only parent is
Category:Fiction while the category also contains very different things than fiction illustrates that this category does not really belong somewhere.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep. Should have its scope enforced very strictly against editors adding random stuff into it, but if that's done, it seems well-defined enough.
SnowFire (
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There is no enforcement in individual categories. Categories should be self-explanatory or should not exist.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep per SnowFire
AHI-3000 (
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@
SnowFire: I am not sure who will do this "strict enforcement", many times when I tried to fix a category I was reverted, making it impossible to enforce anything. Problems with specific categories are bad enough without there being incredibly vague ones.
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Category:Sikh organizations in Canada
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Nominator's rationale:merge for now, currently only one article in the category. No objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available.
Marcocapelle (
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Lean merge. I was able to add two more pages, so if this is merged, it should also be merged to
Category:Sikhism in Canada. If it gets to 5, I'd vote keep.
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Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. (Probably good to do a reverse merge and then rename given this page has a much longer history) slaves from this location are only defining because Mount Vernon is associated with george washington
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Reverse merge per nom, to the older page, and possibly rename back to the newer name.
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Merge and use People who were enslaved by George Washington.--
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Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category, slaves from this location are only defining because monticello is associated with thomas jefferson
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Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. Only member of the category is politicians from a political group
Justice Social Democratic Party, secularism isn't mentioned on the page of the group or on the single member of the page.
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Delete per nom. Also, more fundamentally, I wonder what a secularist is. Based on a quick scan of some articles it seems that it more or less coincides with
Category:Critics of religions.
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Yeah, I couldn't really figure it out either (but to be honest, I didn't try very hard)
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only two categories in here, which isn't helpful for navigation
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Merge per Revelation
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Category:Novels set in 20th-century Russia
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Nominator's rationale:delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. The subcategory is already in
Category:Novels set in Russia so there is no reason to merge.
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Support per nom
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Unhelpful for navigation to isolate these two categories. If kept, it should be renamed to Criminals by gender, per
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Category:2019 crimes in Northern Ireland
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Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article. The current tree is for crimes by decade in Northern Ireland. –
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Nominator's rationale: Small category that should either be upmerged or renamed to 15th-century Aztec nobility per content.
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Fine with me
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Nominator's rationale: Merge per previous Cfds on "People of colonial Maine" and "People of colonial West Viriginia".
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The result of the discussion was:merge to
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Nominator's rationale: Your reason(s) for the proposed rename."Place names" is a highly confusing name for category, because all place names can pe put there, and I have already removed a couple. As I undertand it is a subcat of toponymics. Therefore "Place naming" is correct category name, so that individual place names will not land into it. -
Altenmann>talk 20:24, 10 January 2024 (UTC)reply
While we are here it looks like some subcategories need some beating as well . For example, the whole
Category:Hokkien place names is not about place names, but about places, i.e., it must be renamed into
Category:Hokkien places. Can someone take a general look? I.e., many articles in this category tree are about places, not about names. -
Altenmann>talk 21:24, 10 January 2024 (UTC)reply
I don't think that a "general look" is required. Categories that need to be renamed should simply be nominated.
Marcocapelle (
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I was taking about "general look" because there are many of them and there must be some consistency if renaming will be needed. At the first glance the whole enchilada of "*place names*" categories must be renamed, because vast majority of articles are about places, not about names, and articles/categories about place names should be narrowed in scope to topomymy. -
Altenmann>talk 22:00, 10 January 2024 (UTC)reply
The articles in category are about places, not about names. At best, it must be
Category:Places with Hokkien names, if this distinction is important. Anyway, thanks for clarification. -
Altenmann>talk 23:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)reply
I'm seeing some of the subcategories as being
WP:SHAREDNAME because they're being grouped by the name rather than by anything defining. But that can be for another nom. -
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Category:Paralympic Sport Awards — Best Female winners
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Nominator's rationale: Merge and rename. This award is now called "PARA SPORT Awards" per
[1]Mason (
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Substantively I can't say anything meaningful here, neither pro nor con. I wonder however if PARA SPORT really needs to be capitalized, it seems merely a style issue.
Marcocapelle (
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That's a good question. I don't know if its stylistic. I'll see if I can find some articles describing the award.
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Category:Public image by individuals
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Oppose per
WP:C2D. The articles, especially in the politicians subcategory, are consistently named "Public image of ...". If something needs to be changed here (which I do not expect) then it should at least apply to the subcategories simultaneously.
Marcocapelle (
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How would you feel about a reverse merge?
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Oppose. Public image is not the same as Criticism. Criticism can be a part of Public Image and vice versa. Moreover, Public Image articles of people outside politicians exist and are emerging.
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Category:International Organisation of Good Templars people
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The result of the discussion was:delete. (Noting for the record that the only keep !voter changed their vote in the relist period.)
(non-admin closure)HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale:delete per
WP:OCASSOC and we do not categorize people by fraternity.
Marcocapelle (
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* Keep. We do categorize people by fraternity, e.g.,
Category:Members of fraternal orders. In the case of the I.O.G.T., it is a "fraternal organization" whose scope is that of a "temperance organization". Its members are always temperance advocates/activists. For example, see
Martha B. O'Donnell whose article, coincidentally, I started yesterday before being notified about the proposed category deletion. --
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Delete - I've added the names of all the people in this category into the article itself in a Notable people section. Retaining the category isn't significant to me, so I don't want to hold up the deletion of something that others think should happen. Signing off as the cat creator, --
Rosiestep (
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Comment Categories for Lions and Odd Fellows were deleted by consensus at CFD
here and
here, so them being recreated (in good faith I'm sure) under a different name doesn't really show a consensus for this category. -
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Delete Non-defining textbook
WP:OCASSOC. No objection to more narrow category for leadership in the organization though. -
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Category:Secret millionaire philanthropists
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The fact that they were secret millionnaires is defining, it is the sole reason for their notability. I have more doubts about the philanthropists part, because donations from one's will are fairly common.
Marcocapelle (
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I'm not sure if secret millionaires is defining. There are a "lot" of millionaires out there. If it stays, it needs really clear criteria because we don't have any other secret occupations like this.
Mason (
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heh, the problem of English language :-). I thought the defining part is "secret philantropists" (although the proper term would be anonymous philantropists).... Or not..
Sylvia Bloom was a secret millionaire. Do we have
category:Secret millionaires? I have a couple fictional secret millionaries: some plots revolve around them. -
Altenmann>talk 23:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Both secret wealth and (secret) giving are defining, in my opinion. A secret millionarie who leaves all to children is too routine, not interesting to news media. A secret millionarie who, surprizing all, leaves most or all wealth to charities that gets media coverage and becomes notable.
Yamfri /ˈjæm.friː/ (
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I think that at best, this should be listified instead as it's too vague without a TON of context.
Mason (
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Just delete per all targets already being in the parent target cat. This one feels like a
WP:SUBJECTIVECAT issue.
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Delete per Respublik. –
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Rename per nom. –
Aidan721 (
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Rename per ample recent precedent.
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Category:Films about the Abrahamic religions
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Nominator's rationale: This has another parent
Category:Abrahamic religions, but IMHO is is not a useful addition to that hierarchy. Maybe
Dimadick intended to build an expanded hierarchy around this intersection when he created this last May, but it is not currently helpful. –
FayenaticLondon 13:53, 18 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Support,
Abrahamic religions is a useful term in the study of religions, but it is not as if the three religions have so much in common that it justifies a common category tree for all sorts of topics.
Marcocapelle (
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Support per nom. This may have been a useful intersection if there were films that specifically were about all Abrahamic religions. That does not appear as each film is specific to Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. –
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Category:Fictional characters with volcanic abilities
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Nominator's rationale: Clear
WP:NARROWCAT with a very small focus. There is not much importance to whether a fire ability is, specifically, volcano-based. While the obvious merge target is fire, it can also be merged to others if necessary.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 07:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)reply
When someone says volcanic it implies heat/lava, that's just a common sense thing to me. Volcanism is, specifically, the eruption of molten rock. However, for the record I support adding the character to both categories if needed. This is still a NARROWCAT.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 23:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Merge Manually to parents per
WP:NARROWCAT and
WP:NONDEFINING. The only 1 of the 4 characters who seems to routinely use this capability is
Magma (comics) while the other 3 don't seem defined by the capability. -
RevelationDirect (
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Support alt merge per RevelationDirect.
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Support alt merge per RevelationDirect. HouseBlaster (
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Nominator's rationale: This is just confusing and vague. Seems like a
WP:SUBJECTIVECAT if there ever was one.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 06:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Keep. The subcats help explain what this is about: objects in fiction, imagination, or supposition that, you know, don't actually exist.
StAnselm (
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I don't believe they do. For example, is an unbuilt structure really a "nonexistent thing", or does that only encompass things that cannot exist, like a circular square? Can a nonexistent thing be a concept or does it have to be an object? Does it have to have previously existed or can it just be something that could exist?
Nonexistent objects is about a particular philosophical theory and has nothing to do with this category.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
ᴛ) 07:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)reply
Leaning to support, the fact that the only parent is
Category:Fiction while the category also contains very different things than fiction illustrates that this category does not really belong somewhere.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep. Should have its scope enforced very strictly against editors adding random stuff into it, but if that's done, it seems well-defined enough.
SnowFire (
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There is no enforcement in individual categories. Categories should be self-explanatory or should not exist.
Marcocapelle (
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Keep per SnowFire
AHI-3000 (
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@
SnowFire: I am not sure who will do this "strict enforcement", many times when I tried to fix a category I was reverted, making it impossible to enforce anything. Problems with specific categories are bad enough without there being incredibly vague ones.
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Category:Sikh organizations in Canada
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Nominator's rationale:merge for now, currently only one article in the category. No objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available.
Marcocapelle (
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Lean merge. I was able to add two more pages, so if this is merged, it should also be merged to
Category:Sikhism in Canada. If it gets to 5, I'd vote keep.
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Category:Mount Vernon slaves
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Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. (Probably good to do a reverse merge and then rename given this page has a much longer history) slaves from this location are only defining because Mount Vernon is associated with george washington
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Reverse merge per nom, to the older page, and possibly rename back to the newer name.
Marcocapelle (
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Merge and use People who were enslaved by George Washington.--
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Category:Slaves at Monticello
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Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category, slaves from this location are only defining because monticello is associated with thomas jefferson
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Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. Only member of the category is politicians from a political group
Justice Social Democratic Party, secularism isn't mentioned on the page of the group or on the single member of the page.
Mason (
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Delete per nom. Also, more fundamentally, I wonder what a secularist is. Based on a quick scan of some articles it seems that it more or less coincides with
Category:Critics of religions.
Marcocapelle (
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Yeah, I couldn't really figure it out either (but to be honest, I didn't try very hard)
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Category:Sikh organisations by country
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Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only two categories in here, which isn't helpful for navigation
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