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The result was redirect to TSA (band). Sandstein 12:16, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Stefan Machel
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Non-notable musician. All the sources I'm finding are either unreliable sources or name drops (note that I don't speak Polish and don't understand it so there may be reliable polish sources to be found). Only source on the article currently seems to be a store page. ― Blaze Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:38, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, and Poland. ― Blaze Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:38, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. Pl wiki has an interview in a source that's probably reliable (but WP:INTERVIEW...): [1]. Mention in the encyclopedia of Polish rock (a book) cited on pl wiki seems to be passing, he is mentioned as a member of a band, which has an entry there, but I don't think he has one. That said, I only have snippet view so I cannot be sure; index does suggest he may be covered on pages 414-418, but it's just an index. I'll ping a Polish Wikipedian who often know more than me about Polish music topics: User:Yurek88. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:04, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- Co-founder and long time member of legendary Polish rock band
TSA, also described as first Polish heavy metal band (e.g. P. Zieliński, Scena rockowa w PRL, 2005). His connections with TSA are mentioned in detail in Polish rock encyclopedia. And
this is very reliable source, believe me.
Yurek88 (
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11:51, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- 1 reliable source is typically not enough for an article on a BLP here on enWiki. We usually look for at least 3. ― Blaze Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:56, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –– FormalDude (talk) 06:51, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 07:12, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to TSA (band). He is better known in Poland than implied in the nomination, but there is still not enough for a stand-alone article. It appears to me that, except for occasional film work, he is usually described as a member of the band and has done little outside of their albums. The discography in his article is all TSA albums. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 17:04, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to TSA (band). Sandstein 12:16, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Stefan Machel
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Non-notable musician. All the sources I'm finding are either unreliable sources or name drops (note that I don't speak Polish and don't understand it so there may be reliable polish sources to be found). Only source on the article currently seems to be a store page. ― Blaze Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:38, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, and Poland. ― Blaze Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:38, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. Pl wiki has an interview in a source that's probably reliable (but WP:INTERVIEW...): [1]. Mention in the encyclopedia of Polish rock (a book) cited on pl wiki seems to be passing, he is mentioned as a member of a band, which has an entry there, but I don't think he has one. That said, I only have snippet view so I cannot be sure; index does suggest he may be covered on pages 414-418, but it's just an index. I'll ping a Polish Wikipedian who often know more than me about Polish music topics: User:Yurek88. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:04, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- Co-founder and long time member of legendary Polish rock band
TSA, also described as first Polish heavy metal band (e.g. P. Zieliński, Scena rockowa w PRL, 2005). His connections with TSA are mentioned in detail in Polish rock encyclopedia. And
this is very reliable source, believe me.
Yurek88 (
talk)
11:51, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- 1 reliable source is typically not enough for an article on a BLP here on enWiki. We usually look for at least 3. ― Blaze Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:56, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –– FormalDude (talk) 06:51, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 07:12, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to TSA (band). He is better known in Poland than implied in the nomination, but there is still not enough for a stand-alone article. It appears to me that, except for occasional film work, he is usually described as a member of the band and has done little outside of their albums. The discography in his article is all TSA albums. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 17:04, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
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