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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 23:08, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Shimica Castro Wong
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She had one song that won in the Hong Kong Film Awards , which could redirect to the film itself at ( WP:MUSICBIO #10), but the rest of the information is either from her websites or iTunes. I can't make sense of the Hong Kong music charts and it's not clear which of those are notable. If she started her career with a label at 2013, why are singles prior to that listed? Non-notable other awards too. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 17:36, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
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Sorry to keep you waiting,She has 2 official websites, http://www.hongermusic.com/shimica.php , http://b2talentasia.com/artist/shimica-wong/, And those charts are so notable in Hk. She was an independent singer who worked with pinoy musicians before signing a deal with Honger music. feel free to check it out She released her first English single on soundclick in 2007 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=746777 And released 2 singles with pinoy musician "eAzY" on youtube in 2010 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZLACdzAQVo , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic5OvcHuayM XBabiCaca ( talk) 11:51, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
feel free to check this article /info/en/?search=Cantopop#Major_awards /info/en/?search=Cantopop#Cantopop_radio_stations, it can prove that the charts and awards are notable XBabiCaca ( talk) 12:09, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
977 chart official website http://www.metroradio.com.hk/997/Music/Chart/Local.aspx 903 chart official website https://www.my903.com/903openbox/903songtable1 rthk chart official website http://www.rthk.hk/radio/radio2/programme/chinesepopchart tvb chart official website http://jsg.tvb.com/ XBabiCaca ( talk) 12:09, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Unfortunately none of the Hong Kong charts are described in WP:CHART so there's no indication what are really notable. Most appear to be radio and television stations' local charts. Soundclick isn't a notable chart, that's comparable to citing iTunes. The Metro Radio Hit Music Awards is a maybe as it's listed in Cantopop but the Song Writers Quest is not listed there. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 15:32, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
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- Adding actors and filmmakers, film wikiprojects for assessment of Hong Kong music and film awards notability whether those are good enough for her notability. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 15:52, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Hong Kong Film Awards winner - The Hong Kong Film Awards is arguably the most prestigious film award in Asia, on par with the American Academy Awards. Top 5 RTHK charting artist. If an editor "can't make sense of the Hong Kong music charts", then that's every reason to perform due diligence and not even think of AfDing. This is looking like a case of WP:BIAS. -- Oakshade ( talk) 02:43, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
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- As requested, I'm trying to make sense of the Hong Kong music charts. I'm looking at the WP:SINGLEVENDOR now and while this would be a good case for her notability, the charts section should be scrubbed for local networks that are definitive national channels (ones based in U.S./Canada shouldn't count). Television stations should not count towards charting; this would be like having a U.S. single count towards appearing on Total Request Live. Soundclick is still not a legit chart for here as it is like iTunes. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 16:23, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Her wins is notable and her Chinese wiki is more complete. This page needs major development. Filmman3000 ( talk) 03:30, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- I've added
{{ Expand Chinese}}tag to the article. Hopefully the news articles there aren't just youtube announcements. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 16:51, 17 January 2018 (UTC) - For her appearance on the Hong Kong Film Awards, and establishment of what charts on Hong Kong Radio are actually notable, as well as potentially good references on ZH wikipedia, I'll go ahead and withdraw this early. But the charts still need scrubbing to meet MOS:ACCESS and discography standards. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 22:58, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- I've added
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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 23:08, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Shimica Castro Wong
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She had one song that won in the Hong Kong Film Awards , which could redirect to the film itself at ( WP:MUSICBIO #10), but the rest of the information is either from her websites or iTunes. I can't make sense of the Hong Kong music charts and it's not clear which of those are notable. If she started her career with a label at 2013, why are singles prior to that listed? Non-notable other awards too. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 17:36, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
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Sorry to keep you waiting,She has 2 official websites, http://www.hongermusic.com/shimica.php , http://b2talentasia.com/artist/shimica-wong/, And those charts are so notable in Hk. She was an independent singer who worked with pinoy musicians before signing a deal with Honger music. feel free to check it out She released her first English single on soundclick in 2007 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=746777 And released 2 singles with pinoy musician "eAzY" on youtube in 2010 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZLACdzAQVo , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic5OvcHuayM XBabiCaca ( talk) 11:51, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
feel free to check this article /info/en/?search=Cantopop#Major_awards /info/en/?search=Cantopop#Cantopop_radio_stations, it can prove that the charts and awards are notable XBabiCaca ( talk) 12:09, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
977 chart official website http://www.metroradio.com.hk/997/Music/Chart/Local.aspx 903 chart official website https://www.my903.com/903openbox/903songtable1 rthk chart official website http://www.rthk.hk/radio/radio2/programme/chinesepopchart tvb chart official website http://jsg.tvb.com/ XBabiCaca ( talk) 12:09, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Unfortunately none of the Hong Kong charts are described in WP:CHART so there's no indication what are really notable. Most appear to be radio and television stations' local charts. Soundclick isn't a notable chart, that's comparable to citing iTunes. The Metro Radio Hit Music Awards is a maybe as it's listed in Cantopop but the Song Writers Quest is not listed there. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 15:32, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
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- Adding actors and filmmakers, film wikiprojects for assessment of Hong Kong music and film awards notability whether those are good enough for her notability. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 15:52, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Hong Kong Film Awards winner - The Hong Kong Film Awards is arguably the most prestigious film award in Asia, on par with the American Academy Awards. Top 5 RTHK charting artist. If an editor "can't make sense of the Hong Kong music charts", then that's every reason to perform due diligence and not even think of AfDing. This is looking like a case of WP:BIAS. -- Oakshade ( talk) 02:43, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
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AngusWOOF (
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- As requested, I'm trying to make sense of the Hong Kong music charts. I'm looking at the WP:SINGLEVENDOR now and while this would be a good case for her notability, the charts section should be scrubbed for local networks that are definitive national channels (ones based in U.S./Canada shouldn't count). Television stations should not count towards charting; this would be like having a U.S. single count towards appearing on Total Request Live. Soundclick is still not a legit chart for here as it is like iTunes. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 16:23, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Her wins is notable and her Chinese wiki is more complete. This page needs major development. Filmman3000 ( talk) 03:30, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- I've added
{{ Expand Chinese}}tag to the article. Hopefully the news articles there aren't just youtube announcements. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 16:51, 17 January 2018 (UTC) - For her appearance on the Hong Kong Film Awards, and establishment of what charts on Hong Kong Radio are actually notable, as well as potentially good references on ZH wikipedia, I'll go ahead and withdraw this early. But the charts still need scrubbing to meet MOS:ACCESS and discography standards. AngusWOOF ( bark • sniff) 22:58, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
- I've added
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