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The result was no consensus. I do not believe a third relist is likely to get closer to a consensus. Stifle ( talk) 09:13, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Hamdy El-Said
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Fails WP:NMMA and WP:NOLY. His highest ranking by Fight Matrix is 104th in the world heavyweight rankings, which is not even close to the top 10 requirement. He also failed to win a medal in his appearance at the 2016 Summer Olympics, having been eliminated in round 16. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 13:12, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Martial arts, Olympics, Wrestling, and Egypt. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 13:12, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep He doesn't meet either SNG, but it looks like there's enough coverage of him to pass GNG. In English, there's [1] [2] and [3]. I don't speak Arabic, but using Google Translate I was able to find some additional Arabic sources: [4] [5] [6]. I'd like to get an Arabic speaker's opinion on whether there are additional Arabic sources or the quality of the sources I linked, but it does look like significant coverage exists. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 01:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 13:43, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete He fails WP:NMMA, WP:NSPORT, and WP:MANOTE. He lost his first match at the Olympics and doesn't appear to have ever competed at an adult world championship event. The articles I found, including those in the article and the ones mentioned by TheCatalyst31, were about his loss at the Rio Olympics, his signing of a UFC contract, and at least three heralding the fact he was the first Egyptian to win a UFC fight. I don't think that coverage is significant enough to meet WP:GNG. At best I'd say it's WP:TOOSOON. Papaursa ( talk) 19:49, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. I'd say the articles linked by TheCatalyst31 just get him over the GNG bar. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 14:07, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting in light of new sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:30, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. I do not believe a third relist is likely to get closer to a consensus. Stifle ( talk) 09:13, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Hamdy El-Said
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Fails WP:NMMA and WP:NOLY. His highest ranking by Fight Matrix is 104th in the world heavyweight rankings, which is not even close to the top 10 requirement. He also failed to win a medal in his appearance at the 2016 Summer Olympics, having been eliminated in round 16. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 13:12, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Martial arts, Olympics, Wrestling, and Egypt. ♡RAFAEL♡( talk) 13:12, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep He doesn't meet either SNG, but it looks like there's enough coverage of him to pass GNG. In English, there's [1] [2] and [3]. I don't speak Arabic, but using Google Translate I was able to find some additional Arabic sources: [4] [5] [6]. I'd like to get an Arabic speaker's opinion on whether there are additional Arabic sources or the quality of the sources I linked, but it does look like significant coverage exists. TheCatalyst31 Reaction• Creation 01:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 13:43, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete He fails WP:NMMA, WP:NSPORT, and WP:MANOTE. He lost his first match at the Olympics and doesn't appear to have ever competed at an adult world championship event. The articles I found, including those in the article and the ones mentioned by TheCatalyst31, were about his loss at the Rio Olympics, his signing of a UFC contract, and at least three heralding the fact he was the first Egyptian to win a UFC fight. I don't think that coverage is significant enough to meet WP:GNG. At best I'd say it's WP:TOOSOON. Papaursa ( talk) 19:49, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. I'd say the articles linked by TheCatalyst31 just get him over the GNG bar. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 14:07, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting in light of new sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:30, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
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