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The result was delete. This is a close call, but essentially all of the views to keep have been adequately refuted after several relists, while the arguments to delete, explaining why there is an insufficient amount of sourcing to write a fully-fledged article, have held their ground.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 11:19, 17 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep He also got some notability being a contestant on Spain's version of Masterchef (
yes, same guy) - which there is seemingly more coverage of than his actual sporting exploits, as minor celebrities and reality shows tend to drum up. There's plenty other reports on that. Ones like
this at least have some detail on his life and sports, even if only written because he was on Masterchef.
Kingsif (
talk) 22:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. While I disagree with the respondent above me that participatng in Masterchef makes one notable, the coverage adds up to a notable bottomline.
gidonb (
talk) 02:00, 25 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep based on Kingsif and Gidonb's logic. Over the two fields, I think he achieves notability.
Red Fiona (
talk) 08:43, 25 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete per nominator and Ravenswing, I also don't think the subject's participation in Masterchef meets
WP:ENT guideline.
Karnataka (
talk) 17:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)reply
The point was that his appearance on Masterchef generated SIGCOV in reliable sources, some of which have been added to the article - which someone looking at exclusively sports news wouldn't find. Not that being a reality show participant is basis to pass GNG.
Kingsif (
talk) 21:19, 1 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 19:42, 1 July 2023 (UTC)reply
This isn't a good rationale. What is notable?
Sportsfan 1234 (
talk) 01:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)reply
This is a cross-wiki spam account that has been voting on random AFD's (among other things) to attempt to gain legitimacy. Graham87 05:47, 6 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete The piece on El Periòdic d'Andorra is an interview and thus a
primary source, and those on DiariAndorra.ad are too brief to qualify as significant. The latter were also published too close in time to each other, so the coverage in them isn't
WP:SUSTAINED. Neither his sports career nor his Masterchef appearance have generated enough coverage to establish notability.
Avilich (
talk) 02:43, 6 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Admin note, this is now extended confirmed to stop the utter nonsense. If a legit autoconfirmed account needs to participate, please use the Talk page. StarMississippi 11:56, 6 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguilltalk 02:20, 9 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - famous in
Andorra -- a literal big shot. Unfortunately, not notable here per lack of refs meeting
WP:GNG or trap-shooting performance/ranking meeting
WP:NSPORT and
WP:NOLYMPICS
Weak keep. Few reasons. Multiple sources combined put us in the ballpark of BIO/GNG. Also, consider the language divide. And most importantly, a 2004-era Olympian almost certainly has some analog reporting we're not finding right now which would comfortably reinforce the existing GNG entries. —
siroχo 04:41, 9 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Also known as Francisco Repiso (unfortunately?), I thought I'd mentioned that but apparently not. Could possibly search for that.
Kingsif (
talk) 12:57, 13 July 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. This is a close call, but essentially all of the views to keep have been adequately refuted after several relists, while the arguments to delete, explaining why there is an insufficient amount of sourcing to write a fully-fledged article, have held their ground.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 11:19, 17 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep He also got some notability being a contestant on Spain's version of Masterchef (
yes, same guy) - which there is seemingly more coverage of than his actual sporting exploits, as minor celebrities and reality shows tend to drum up. There's plenty other reports on that. Ones like
this at least have some detail on his life and sports, even if only written because he was on Masterchef.
Kingsif (
talk) 22:17, 24 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep. While I disagree with the respondent above me that participatng in Masterchef makes one notable, the coverage adds up to a notable bottomline.
gidonb (
talk) 02:00, 25 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep based on Kingsif and Gidonb's logic. Over the two fields, I think he achieves notability.
Red Fiona (
talk) 08:43, 25 June 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete per nominator and Ravenswing, I also don't think the subject's participation in Masterchef meets
WP:ENT guideline.
Karnataka (
talk) 17:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)reply
The point was that his appearance on Masterchef generated SIGCOV in reliable sources, some of which have been added to the article - which someone looking at exclusively sports news wouldn't find. Not that being a reality show participant is basis to pass GNG.
Kingsif (
talk) 21:19, 1 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk! 19:42, 1 July 2023 (UTC)reply
This isn't a good rationale. What is notable?
Sportsfan 1234 (
talk) 01:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)reply
This is a cross-wiki spam account that has been voting on random AFD's (among other things) to attempt to gain legitimacy. Graham87 05:47, 6 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete The piece on El Periòdic d'Andorra is an interview and thus a
primary source, and those on DiariAndorra.ad are too brief to qualify as significant. The latter were also published too close in time to each other, so the coverage in them isn't
WP:SUSTAINED. Neither his sports career nor his Masterchef appearance have generated enough coverage to establish notability.
Avilich (
talk) 02:43, 6 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Admin note, this is now extended confirmed to stop the utter nonsense. If a legit autoconfirmed account needs to participate, please use the Talk page. StarMississippi 11:56, 6 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguilltalk 02:20, 9 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete - famous in
Andorra -- a literal big shot. Unfortunately, not notable here per lack of refs meeting
WP:GNG or trap-shooting performance/ranking meeting
WP:NSPORT and
WP:NOLYMPICS
Weak keep. Few reasons. Multiple sources combined put us in the ballpark of BIO/GNG. Also, consider the language divide. And most importantly, a 2004-era Olympian almost certainly has some analog reporting we're not finding right now which would comfortably reinforce the existing GNG entries. —
siroχo 04:41, 9 July 2023 (UTC)reply
Also known as Francisco Repiso (unfortunately?), I thought I'd mentioned that but apparently not. Could possibly search for that.
Kingsif (
talk) 12:57, 13 July 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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