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The result was no consensus‎. This close has no prejudice against renaming/rescoping the article, but there's insufficient consensus and it can be discussed outside of AFD. The Wordsmith Talk to me 22:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Foreign-born Japanese (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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See my comment below. The term is Diaspora. — Maile ( talk) 01:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply
That's not the case. The article on Japanese diaspora is about the group of ethnic Japanese people who are in Japan (a large majority of whom are not citizens of Japan, and have never lived there), whereas this article is about the group of Japanese citizens who were not born in Japan (a large majority of whom live in Japan). Dekimasu よ! 03:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • That's not the scope intended by this article. This article is explicitly about citizens of Japan, which is a separate topic from Japanese diaspora. In effect, since the Japanese government does not acknowledge the existence of ethnicity (and the series of articles on foreign groups in Japan also explicitly limits the scope of those articles to citizens of foreign countries, cf. Brazilians in Japan, Chinese people in Japan, Americans in Japan), deletion of this article would leave us with few places to discuss the subjects of this article as a group. If that is fine with everyone, I suppose the category will have to suffice. Dekimasu よ! 03:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To discuss Dekimasu's extensive edits, and to see whether the initial issues have been resolved or can be with a rename.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 22:32, 28 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. More discussion in line with the prior relisting comment would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 03:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. This close has no prejudice against renaming/rescoping the article, but there's insufficient consensus and it can be discussed outside of AFD. The Wordsmith Talk to me 22:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC) reply

Foreign-born Japanese (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
See my comment below. The term is Diaspora. — Maile ( talk) 01:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply
That's not the case. The article on Japanese diaspora is about the group of ethnic Japanese people who are in Japan (a large majority of whom are not citizens of Japan, and have never lived there), whereas this article is about the group of Japanese citizens who were not born in Japan (a large majority of whom live in Japan). Dekimasu よ! 03:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply
  • That's not the scope intended by this article. This article is explicitly about citizens of Japan, which is a separate topic from Japanese diaspora. In effect, since the Japanese government does not acknowledge the existence of ethnicity (and the series of articles on foreign groups in Japan also explicitly limits the scope of those articles to citizens of foreign countries, cf. Brazilians in Japan, Chinese people in Japan, Americans in Japan), deletion of this article would leave us with few places to discuss the subjects of this article as a group. If that is fine with everyone, I suppose the category will have to suffice. Dekimasu よ! 03:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To discuss Dekimasu's extensive edits, and to see whether the initial issues have been resolved or can be with a rename.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 22:32, 28 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. More discussion in line with the prior relisting comment would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 03:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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