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The user has continued to violate WP:BRAND after I told him/her not to do it again, and has had a history of other disruptive editing. This user does not seem to want to discuss his changes. I wanted to bring this to ANI, but first want to check with you. Jasper Deng (talk) 16:54, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Sorry about that, all sorted now though, thank you both, Atomician ( talk) 18:08, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I was just wondering if you had seen my comment and what your thoughts were on the project. Ryan Vesey Review me! 17:18, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
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For your help and input with User:Zackaback... Atomician ( talk) 18:07, 25 August 2011 (UTC) |
I would like to move the Pre-RfA proposal out of my userspace fairly soon. I leave for college in 4 days and there is a possibility that I don't edit Wikipedia for months. I would hope to initiate discussion on the idea before I leave. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:29, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
This is my 808th edit, but anyway, I just would like to find out if you think I am ready to become an administrator. I will accept both yes or no. I am willing to become an RfA and make all of my edits in good faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JCRules ( talk • contribs)
Thanks, I just wanted your opinions of if I was ready. I will take your words and thoughts into consideration. JC Rules! ( talk) 23:40, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
First, I have completely modified my proposal. Hopefully you can look at it because I would like to advertise it when I get back to the computer in about 30 minutes. Second, what should be done about JCRules' User:Health4Kids Campaign I moved it to his userspace. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
An IP, without an edit summary, reverted my reversion of his/her edit. I'm requesting a 1RR exemption for this, since I'm highly knowledgeable in this field. Jasper Deng (talk) 15:15, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Looks like the IP decided to re-add it again, also without an edit summary. I left an edit warring warning on the IP's talk page because the IP does not seem to even want to explain his/her actions. Jasper Deng (talk) 16:39, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
I am going to be bold by putting __NOTOC__ tags on your adoptees pages since on your adopt HQ page, it really isn't neet because of them. ~~
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Thank you for your message. I have decided that it is not expedient for me either to answer your message, or to comment on what I have just read on Kudpung's user talk page, or to continue to participate either at RfA, or anything remotely connected with RfA, including in particular, RfA reform 2011. So I will not be participating further in any of these areas. James500 ( talk) 11:33, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Well we provided all references and links + details. -- Bioplus ( talk) 18:20, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
- http://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/karstadt-investor-nicolas-berggruen-auf-den-spuren-von-jimi-hendrix-1.982877 - http://www.bz-berlin.de/archiv/meine-wilde-partynacht-mit-nicolas-berggruen-article936728.html - http://www.daylife.com/topic/Nicolas_Berggruen - http://www.am-ende-des-tages.de/photos/100730-grown-ups-party-felix-st-tropez/
and one can find more than 20 ref on that -- Bioplus ( talk) 18:38, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/arts/design/27berggruen.html
-- Bioplus ( talk) 18:41, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
"Forbes magazine estimated Berggruen's net worth at $2.2 billion as of 2010[update] and he made most of his money from inheritance and business. ref -- Bioplus ( talk) 18:52, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
"Berggruen hosts an annual exclusive party at Chateau Marmont, which draws the wealthy and the famous.[7] and attends mayn parties in st tropez france" how about that ? -- Bioplus ( talk) 18:54, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
-- Bioplus ( talk) 19:04, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
-- Bioplus ( talk) 19:51, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
No it doesn't. Black Kite was disagreeing with you, as was the IP editor. If you think that's consensus, you've got a long way to go. But please, my talk page isn't the best place to discuss this - the article talk page is - where I see you've made no recent edits. WormTT · ( talk) 19:56, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
FYI: [1] and [2]. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:54, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
I have decided that I am going to continue to participate at RfA and related pages, except for RfA reform 2011. Please disregard my previous message above to the extent, and only to the extent, that it says that I will not. I apologise for being inconsistent and for any confusion that this might cause anyone. James500 ( talk) 12:09, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
You have a new email Worm. Thanks Jenova 20 15:07, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Also how do i find a deleted article? I'm looking for Tribal Fusion - the old one about the advertisement software. Thanks Jenova 20 16:25, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
-- Bioplus ( talk) 08:44, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
-- Bioplus ( talk) 09:14, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
-- Bioplus ( talk) 09:16, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
you re claiming that i am here only to devellop on berggruen is not true and makes no sense. wikipedia is a place for everybody. you dont want to promote berggruen's as advertisement this is unaaceptable.
-- Bioplus ( talk) 09:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
I have been asked to be an ambassador for a course in the spring semester... and also, I sent you some email, did you get it? Thanks a lot for your help so far, by the way. Sharktopus talk 13:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm. I've started my own adoption scheme, based on yours, at User:Rcsprinter123/Adopt. I've got two adoptees already, although one accepted and vanished, but the other is going through the modules. Thought I'd tell you so you can come have a look and comment. Rcsprinter (talk) 09:11, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi there! I saw your name at WP:RRN and decided that the admin at the top of the list was as good a choice as any... I'm a long time vandalism fighter, and this has been my primary focus as a Wikipedian. In addition, I've edited various articles (ranging from Ford Mustang to Oranjeboom). I haven't started articles (other than Charlie the Unicorn, which recently went back up thanks to some good sourcing), but feel that the admin toolbox would greatly help me to efficiently and effectively fight vandalism. I realize that there are many who feel that a more rounded Wikipedian is a more appropriate admin, and I agree, but I also feel there is room for someone like me, who is foremost a vandalism fighter, but also contributes with various gnomish edits and re-writes. Either way, I appreciate your opinion. Cheers! - superβεεcat 02:25, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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Hi. It's been a little while since the last message on RfA reform, and there's been a fair amount of slow but steady progress. However, there is currently a flurry of activity due to some conversations on Jimbo's talk page.
I think we're very close to putting an idea or two forward before the community and there are at least two newer ones in the pipeline. So if you have a moment:
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28bytes is requesting that you comment here. Jasper Deng (talk) 03:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi there and thanks for the kind words. My main worry for wikipedia is that I see people with a huge amount of contributions leave it or be sick of it. That should be minimized and a good way is to entrust those people with admin tools. We should be able to have article writers stick around for as much as possible, hence my proposal. An encyclopaedia is 90% history and geography, but what's the ratio of professional historians and geographers to that of IT people in the admin ranks? We need mediators here between several POV pushers, but I see that many admins have no clue or are too bothered to do research on content, and they decide mainly on civilty, and that's all they do. It's sad to see that the bad apples win, because the admin handling the issue is not prepared enough. Divide et Impera ( talk) 15:38, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
I am here to ask you to nominate ArcAngel for adminship, he has around 14,000 edits, been on wikipedia for four years, and was never blocked, Thank You -- ChristianandJericho ( talk) 08:23, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm That Turned/Archive 10. The main reasons why
WT:RfA was never successful in getting anything done are that threads on different aspects of RfA are all mixed together, and are then archived where nobody remembers them and they are hard to find - same applies to ad hoc threads on the founder's talk page. I've therefore spent a couple of hours organising, transferring, and collapsing some of the older threads at
WT:RFA2011 - experience has shown that people are quite happy to follow a link to a new, more appropriate location. I've also added some slightly more blatant edit notices in the hope that newcomers will take notice.
If you can, please consider collapsing and copying new threads started by newcomers to the appropriate talk page, drawing their attention to the navigation aid at
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Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (
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I hope you don't mind, but someone came to my talk page asking for mentorship and I've again recommended you instead. You just seem to have the mentorship thing down to a science and I'd be making it up as I go. You can find the thread on my talk page.--v/r - T P 12:53, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to seek your kind attention in improving my editing skills. I read your pages.-- Day000Walker ( talk) 14:19, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Worm. I've adopted a multitude of editors in my time. I've always handled it informally; I make it clear that I will help them with anything whatsoever and essentially mentor them on an "as needed" basis. I was wondering if you think that the more formal method that you use is better. Most of my adoptees ask for at least some degree of help or advice, but I've yet to see any of them be significantly active in the long run. Do you find the case to be different when they've graduated in in-depth "class"? Do most of your adoptees complete the class? Have they become active? Swarm u | t 16:36, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Dave. Porchcorpter has requested edit filter rights, and I have declined the request. I believe it is far too soon after the expiration of his topic ban to be requesting advanced permissions, but I told him that if there is consensus on his talk page to re-open the request for wider review, I would do so. Your input there is welcome. Thanks, 28bytes ( talk) 03:56, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Talk:Center I've been under the impression that Centre and Center had different meanings. Thanks Jenova 20 15:07, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Worm, I have reviewed a nomination made by User:Porchcorpter, whom you are mentoring, at Template:Did you know nominations/Wenderholm Regional Park. Would it be possible for you to work with him/her to improve reference formatting in the article? I understand that s/he may not understand the importance of reference formatting yet. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 04:55, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm! Sorry to be off IRC. I've had non-stop people at my door, and have been avoiding all live contact. :) I would love to IRC when you get a chance. PM me whenever you like. I would be most grateful. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 10:55, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
I had warned TurboForce for this, which was followed by this, despite my warning. This user has shown a WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT attitude toward what I've been trying to tell him (specifically, NPOV, CIVILITY, and EDITWARRING). Jasper Deng (talk) 03:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Ah, but WP:WIN is just an essay, whilst WP:BATTLE is policy - I do appreciate it's annoying, and will have a word to see if I can improve the situation - but at the moment I don't see anything terrible. Jasper, I'm sorry I'm not always around at the same times you are, but as you can see, I've got quite a few talk page stalkers. In general they offer very good advice, possibly not as I'd say it - but certainly with the sentiments mine would carry.
So, looking at the situation - You seem to be reading his comment as negative, and deserving a block - my reading is that he acknowledged my comments and will ensure that he tempers himself in future (the "okay okay") but he still thinks that the articles are not written correctly. Now, that becomes a content issue - and as I mentioned to Daniel, I'll leave him some feedback about the best way to handle that. There's nothing worth chastising in his second comment, let alone blocking. WormTT · ( talk) 07:49, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
On 15 September 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wenderholm Regional Park, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Wenderholm Regional Park includes a house built by Sir Robert Graham? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wenderholm Regional Park.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Materialscientist ( talk) 08:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
I don't mean to rush you but, how far have you come in researching ArcAngel -- Christian and Jericho 13:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hows this for a strange and unexpected article!? Gay Nigger Association of America Just when you think you've seen it all there's stranger articles out there in WP land lol. Political correctness clearly isn't as bad in America as it is in the UK. Jenova 20 12:37, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey there! Just wanted to check in with you. Someone is missed in the Ambassador program this semester. ; ) I'm guessing that the 2011 RFA reform is keeping you busy, but if not, we could use some help over there. (Throwing out a lifeline.) We have several classes starting without online (or campus) support. If you know of any Wikipedians that may be interested in applying to serve as an Online Ambassador, send them here. Campus Ambassadors can apply here. Taking applications now! ; ) Cind. amuse (Cindy) 14:06, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
There are a few good applications for ambassador pending approval. In particular I was hoping maybe you could comment on this one. -- My76Strat ( talk) 16:56, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm. Please put your opinion in these AFDs: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Advanced SystemCare and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Advanced Vista Optimizer. - Porch corpter ( talk/ contribs) 08:31, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. You have a new message at Anna Frodesiak's talk page. 14:37, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm so sorry I missed you on IRC last night. I noticed you on in the middle of the night when I got up for 2 minutes. We can try again, my friend. :) Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 05:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
hello ,Worm please take a look at my article Suzhou Harmony Times Square, and give me some advice. thank you NNU-02-05100143
We need you. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 10:10, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm: What happened was as follows: I asked a student to come up and show the class how she could ask for help from an editor for her article, the Suzhou Harmony Times. Under my guidance, she did that. But when it was done we noticed that I hadn't signed out from a previous exercise; nor she in. So she replaced the tildes with her username in as the signature. Sorry. Didn't realise this could be an issue. Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 12:47, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Worm, you long ago (June) said you'd help me set up the archiving process for my Talk page. I have read the bot page several times and I simply do not understand it. I don't have lots of Talk page activity, but would like a 6-month archive process. Can you help me? I am happy to do something in return, like proofread or copyedit something you need help with. Or do your laundry. Anything. Thank you.-- TEHodson 04:36, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
I found the said users' mentioning of me in his leaving message to be an attempt to troll me knowing full well that it would wind me up. I done my edits based on TPG Section "Editing Comments - others' comments" - point 3: "Removing harmful posts" - the post in question I felt to be trolling. Colofac ( talk) 15:43, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
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Good news: We now have an important new member. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 18:12, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello, Ambassadors!
I wanted to give you one last update on where we are this term, before my role as Online Facilitator wraps up at the end of this week. Already, there are over 800 students in U.S. classes who have signed up on course pages this term. About 40 classes are active, and we're expecting that many more again once all the classes are up and running.
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I think that interaction ban should be turned into an AfD ban for topics I'm not familiar in. I support a self-ban from interacting with that user and want to make it so that I can't bite any more editors. Jasper Deng (talk) 04:35, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
I think Eagles makes a good point: Jasper is still way too bitey for the help desk. The only way I could see it working is if he committed to only answering helpfully, e.g. no telling the person they're in the wrong venue, no reverting "suspicious" questions, no tossing warning templates, no telling the person what they want can't be done: only responding if he can say "the information you're looking for can be found [here]" or "here's how you do it:" or something similar. Leave the "can't help you" responses to someone more diplomatic. Thoughts? 28bytes ( talk) 17:24, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, do you know how i can add a green tick to my "Current Project" section on my user page? I wanted to tick each car done but don't know how lol Thanks, hope all is well Jenova 20 10:27, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey Worm! I was considering an article on Ikechi Nnamani and noticed that an article had been deleted on him in 2009. Would you be willing to email me the contents of the article or to restore it in the subpage User:Ryan Vesey/Ikechi Nnamani? Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm, we haven't talked in a while. I'm wondering if there are Wikipedians I can contact who have subscribed to the New York Times and are willing to purchase an article for a WP article. Thanks! (Oh, and BTW, can you comment in my editor review?) HurricaneFan 25 17:32, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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This dispute has been going for about a month or a half. My concern with TurboForce is his comments on the mentioned article's talk page, which seem to be rants against Windows (COI warning: I love Windows), after being told repeatedly that such comments are not appropriate for talk pages ( WP:IDHT seems to apply in my opinion, but I may be wrong), and that consensus is against them. His edits to the article are fine enough though, so I need your advice before I can go to a noticeboard. Jasper Deng (talk) 22:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
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I have seen on his talk page that he has been harrassing Adam mugliston. I would just like to say I'm almost certain charles has been looking over every edit I make which does make me feel uncomfortable. Wilbysuffolk Talk to me 15:16, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't go around moving your posts around, so kindly extend me the same courtesy. PumpkinSky talk 17:42, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Thank you sir for your message on my page, was it Σ who told you? How thoughtful of him. But yeah thats perfectly fine, you seem like a really busy guy anyway. The majority of my edits are to do with either politics or 19th / 20th century history. Is there anyone else you would recommend who could take me under their wing for a few months? i did have a previous mentor but unfortunately he doesnt go on much these days. Goldblooded ( talk) 22:36, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Worm!
Been so long, since we've had a chat - better yet, since I last went to Your Adoption School. Well, if you have the time (going through your edit history, you edit as if you don't sleep!), would it be possible if I could proceed with my education at the Adoption school? I apologise for not returning to it for a while - I fail miserably when it comes to procrastination, and that's definately not a good thing to have at my age! :D
Would I be able to start it sometime tommorow? (Monday, 10 October)? If not, some time this upcomming week?
Thank You! -- MelbourneStar☆ (talk to me) 12:56, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey Worm :) There's a possible third DYK/2nd GA up my alley :). Would you mind giving 1906 Florida hurricane a quick copyedit? Thanks! HurricaneFan 25 16:05, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi WTT, thanks for your message a while back. I just wanted to let you know that I haven't completely disappeared, but I recently started a new job in real life and have had no time for Wikipedia of late. I should be back again before too long though, so if you are still happy to be my adopter then could we leave my page archived until I get back and then re-activate it? I am still very keen to learn from you and take your course as soon as real life settles back down again!
And congratulations on becoming an admin a few months ago. I hope it is going well. Sincerely, Antarctic-adventurer (talk) 06:52, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello. Would you be willing to review my edits to see if I'm ready to be nominated for adminship? I have previously run unsuccessfully under the username Wikiwoohoo. Cloudbound ( talk) 02:30, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi, please take a lookat the Daily Mail talk page and give me your opinion on the "my chemical romance" section. It's Jenova20 here not logged in. Thanks 90.209.124.27 ( talk) 22:54, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello again!
Just wanted to say thanks again for all your help early on! Hellblazer now has a little green plus sign at the top right! Couldn't have done this without all your help, and your great adoption course. Benny Digital Speak Your Brains 07:51, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Another edit war is going on, with a guy who is insisting that a band member Tweeting that it was his band whose song was played over a TV show is a reliable source. Twitter is not considered a reliable source from my understanding of WP:IRS, but he won't stop putting it back. The page is Running Up that Hill and there's a discussion on the Talk page, in which he is rude and just doesn't seem to get it. I wrote to him on his talk page User:Brandon, but nothing is helping. I can't understand the form to fill out. We need a second opinion or two. Can you help?-- TEHodson 04:31, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Someone else just came to the page and absolutely declared Twitter an unreliable source and reverted the edit you restored. I'm not touching it again, but he cited the same things I did. Interesting to see if the edit gets re-reverted (you know what I mean).-- TEHodson 22:13, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hey there WTT, sorry to bother you but ive got a quick question; something ive noticed is that a lot of editors when they sign their posts have their name in different colours or have "return fire" or "shout back" etc next to it , do you know how to get this? Goldblooded ( talk) 12:45, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Ah right , ive got the jist of it but how do i add colour? Goldblooded Return Fire 14:43, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
and is there a way to get the latter part to be aligned at the top as opposed to at the bottom? Goldblooded Return Fire 14:44, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Ok, ill look at that in a bit thanks :) Also , are you allowed to "borrow" an idea off another editor? Not nessarially just for sigs, for example i noticed this other user had a page where other users could post reviews/complaints about that user; would i be able to copy his idea? (or part of it) Goldblooded Return Fire 14:50, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
And also, im a little confused by the archive system - is there a way to create a seperate archives for the complaints page? [ [4]]
Thank you for all your help :) thanks for doing the coding too, much appreciated. Goldblooded Return Fire 15:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
One last thing, do you by any chance know how to make a page redirect?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stavtordt Goldblooded Return Fire 20:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Alright , thank you :) Also concerning the sig; how do i get a part of it in colour? say i wanted the return fire bit just in black what would the coding be? User:Goldblooded (Return Fire) 15:42, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
[[User talk:Goldblooded|<sup style="color:#000000;">(Return Fire)</sup>]]
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Can you snow this? Or do you think it's too early? -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 06:12, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
This is my 12000th edit! I have definitely got them up since April! Thanks for all your help as ever, Worm. Rcsprinter (rap) 13:42, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Since you're around, could you look at this message which I just placed, and possibally chime in. The referenced conversation is this page. Sven Manguard Wha? 12:45, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I already know how to and I'm putting it on now. I gotta get away from this. JamesAlan1986 * talk 13:12, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi it's James I already put the break on so I have to use my IP. I set it for the 22nd. It should end at 12:01:01 am, if it doesn't look right you are more then welcome to fix it. 74.83.199.78 ( talk) 13:23, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Okay I will. ^_^ 74.83.199.78 ( talk) 13:38, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Okay saw what you posted on your history page. And you're more then welcome to e-mail me anytime. I'm waiting on status and novice to get ahold of me on there right now. 74.83.199.78 ( talk) 14:23, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Worm, mind removing [redacted] from the history? Don't really want everyone seeing his email, do we? — Status { talk contribs 14:27, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm,
I've started reviewing GANs, and now I feel that I'm worried about whether I'm on the right track, reviewing articles (like am I too tough?). [This concern was sparked by finding out about a GA-nominating/reviewing topic ban for a user.] My two GA reviews so far are this and this. I'm going to work on this one soon. Although I consider our relation via adoption is over, I'm hoping you can mentor me now, especially in the GA reviewing section. Thanks! HurricaneFan 25 17:34, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the #: thing [5]; I was trying to figure out how to do that. Where's the embarrassed smiley when you need it? CRGreathouse ( t | c) 16:59, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm. I considered replying at the ANI thread for TreasuryTag but I guess this turned into a bit of a rant that is only tangentially related to the case at hand. I'll put it to you here instead.
On the question I asked you about 'last chances', I suppose my concern is that Wikipedia is effectively a toothless tiger when it comes to problematic long-term editors. It seems every month there's one of a familiar list of names appearing in ANI over yet more misbehaviour, with a chorus of people saying 'enough is enough', and a vocal group of supporters trying to downplay the whole thing or rationalise that the editor's contributions somehow give him immunity from all of the rules we expect people to follow. Inevitably either nothing happens, or a block or ban is placed only to be overturned a few days later by yet another sympathetic admin, and the whole cycle repeats month after month.
I applaud Wikipedia's patience and forgiveness (as well as your own) in dealing with situations like this, but we really need to be able to have the teeth to show some of these people the door. The way things go at the moment, these editors have no real reason to change. Why would they, when we've proven that any time someone finally takes a stand and does something about it, it doesn't matter because there's always someone else around the next corner who will have sympathy or reverse the decision? We've created an environment where 'barely tolerable' is all an editor needs to be for a few days to reset the entire process back to square one. We've communicated clearly to people that would take advantage of it that many of our policies and guidelines are effectively weightless. Personally, I'm sick of seeing serial-incivility pests getting free run over the project because nobody can sustain a civility block on an established editor without it being overturned.
I understand that to you, this situation looks like 'he gets one last chance and I'll give it my best to help him' but to me it looks like 'another name on the list of people I'm going to see complaints about month after month without anything being done'. I guess that's an AGF issue on my part, but it just wearies me to see good editors and new editors with a lot of potential giving up on Wikipedia, driven away by those same people we see complained about regularly, because there's a systematic failure to draw a line in the sand and really stick to it. I haven't voted in the discussion on TT at ANI and I remain neutral on that specific case, but I think these things are worth consideration in the way we approach situations like this. TechnoSymbiosis ( talk) 03:45, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Worm! Kind of relieved that's over. Just wanted to thank you for the RfA nom. It was pretty cool that you held out for #100 (and that you wagered it would reach that level in the first place). I (quite seriously) could not have asked for a better nominator or nom statement. Thanks again, Swarm X 04:44, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
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The user has continued to violate WP:BRAND after I told him/her not to do it again, and has had a history of other disruptive editing. This user does not seem to want to discuss his changes. I wanted to bring this to ANI, but first want to check with you. Jasper Deng (talk) 16:54, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Sorry about that, all sorted now though, thank you both, Atomician ( talk) 18:08, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I was just wondering if you had seen my comment and what your thoughts were on the project. Ryan Vesey Review me! 17:18, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
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I would like to move the Pre-RfA proposal out of my userspace fairly soon. I leave for college in 4 days and there is a possibility that I don't edit Wikipedia for months. I would hope to initiate discussion on the idea before I leave. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:29, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
This is my 808th edit, but anyway, I just would like to find out if you think I am ready to become an administrator. I will accept both yes or no. I am willing to become an RfA and make all of my edits in good faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JCRules ( talk • contribs)
Thanks, I just wanted your opinions of if I was ready. I will take your words and thoughts into consideration. JC Rules! ( talk) 23:40, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
First, I have completely modified my proposal. Hopefully you can look at it because I would like to advertise it when I get back to the computer in about 30 minutes. Second, what should be done about JCRules' User:Health4Kids Campaign I moved it to his userspace. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
An IP, without an edit summary, reverted my reversion of his/her edit. I'm requesting a 1RR exemption for this, since I'm highly knowledgeable in this field. Jasper Deng (talk) 15:15, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Looks like the IP decided to re-add it again, also without an edit summary. I left an edit warring warning on the IP's talk page because the IP does not seem to even want to explain his/her actions. Jasper Deng (talk) 16:39, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
I am going to be bold by putting __NOTOC__ tags on your adoptees pages since on your adopt HQ page, it really isn't neet because of them. ~~
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Thank you for your message. I have decided that it is not expedient for me either to answer your message, or to comment on what I have just read on Kudpung's user talk page, or to continue to participate either at RfA, or anything remotely connected with RfA, including in particular, RfA reform 2011. So I will not be participating further in any of these areas. James500 ( talk) 11:33, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Well we provided all references and links + details. -- Bioplus ( talk) 18:20, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
- http://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/karstadt-investor-nicolas-berggruen-auf-den-spuren-von-jimi-hendrix-1.982877 - http://www.bz-berlin.de/archiv/meine-wilde-partynacht-mit-nicolas-berggruen-article936728.html - http://www.daylife.com/topic/Nicolas_Berggruen - http://www.am-ende-des-tages.de/photos/100730-grown-ups-party-felix-st-tropez/
and one can find more than 20 ref on that -- Bioplus ( talk) 18:38, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/arts/design/27berggruen.html
-- Bioplus ( talk) 18:41, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
"Forbes magazine estimated Berggruen's net worth at $2.2 billion as of 2010[update] and he made most of his money from inheritance and business. ref -- Bioplus ( talk) 18:52, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
"Berggruen hosts an annual exclusive party at Chateau Marmont, which draws the wealthy and the famous.[7] and attends mayn parties in st tropez france" how about that ? -- Bioplus ( talk) 18:54, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
-- Bioplus ( talk) 19:04, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
-- Bioplus ( talk) 19:51, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
No it doesn't. Black Kite was disagreeing with you, as was the IP editor. If you think that's consensus, you've got a long way to go. But please, my talk page isn't the best place to discuss this - the article talk page is - where I see you've made no recent edits. WormTT · ( talk) 19:56, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
FYI: [1] and [2]. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:54, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
I have decided that I am going to continue to participate at RfA and related pages, except for RfA reform 2011. Please disregard my previous message above to the extent, and only to the extent, that it says that I will not. I apologise for being inconsistent and for any confusion that this might cause anyone. James500 ( talk) 12:09, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
You have a new email Worm. Thanks Jenova 20 15:07, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Also how do i find a deleted article? I'm looking for Tribal Fusion - the old one about the advertisement software. Thanks Jenova 20 16:25, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
-- Bioplus ( talk) 08:44, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
-- Bioplus ( talk) 09:14, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
-- Bioplus ( talk) 09:16, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
you re claiming that i am here only to devellop on berggruen is not true and makes no sense. wikipedia is a place for everybody. you dont want to promote berggruen's as advertisement this is unaaceptable.
-- Bioplus ( talk) 09:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
I have been asked to be an ambassador for a course in the spring semester... and also, I sent you some email, did you get it? Thanks a lot for your help so far, by the way. Sharktopus talk 13:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm. I've started my own adoption scheme, based on yours, at User:Rcsprinter123/Adopt. I've got two adoptees already, although one accepted and vanished, but the other is going through the modules. Thought I'd tell you so you can come have a look and comment. Rcsprinter (talk) 09:11, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi there! I saw your name at WP:RRN and decided that the admin at the top of the list was as good a choice as any... I'm a long time vandalism fighter, and this has been my primary focus as a Wikipedian. In addition, I've edited various articles (ranging from Ford Mustang to Oranjeboom). I haven't started articles (other than Charlie the Unicorn, which recently went back up thanks to some good sourcing), but feel that the admin toolbox would greatly help me to efficiently and effectively fight vandalism. I realize that there are many who feel that a more rounded Wikipedian is a more appropriate admin, and I agree, but I also feel there is room for someone like me, who is foremost a vandalism fighter, but also contributes with various gnomish edits and re-writes. Either way, I appreciate your opinion. Cheers! - superβεεcat 02:25, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
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Hi. It's been a little while since the last message on RfA reform, and there's been a fair amount of slow but steady progress. However, there is currently a flurry of activity due to some conversations on Jimbo's talk page.
I think we're very close to putting an idea or two forward before the community and there are at least two newer ones in the pipeline. So if you have a moment:
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28bytes is requesting that you comment here. Jasper Deng (talk) 03:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi there and thanks for the kind words. My main worry for wikipedia is that I see people with a huge amount of contributions leave it or be sick of it. That should be minimized and a good way is to entrust those people with admin tools. We should be able to have article writers stick around for as much as possible, hence my proposal. An encyclopaedia is 90% history and geography, but what's the ratio of professional historians and geographers to that of IT people in the admin ranks? We need mediators here between several POV pushers, but I see that many admins have no clue or are too bothered to do research on content, and they decide mainly on civilty, and that's all they do. It's sad to see that the bad apples win, because the admin handling the issue is not prepared enough. Divide et Impera ( talk) 15:38, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
I am here to ask you to nominate ArcAngel for adminship, he has around 14,000 edits, been on wikipedia for four years, and was never blocked, Thank You -- ChristianandJericho ( talk) 08:23, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm That Turned/Archive 10. The main reasons why
WT:RfA was never successful in getting anything done are that threads on different aspects of RfA are all mixed together, and are then archived where nobody remembers them and they are hard to find - same applies to ad hoc threads on the founder's talk page. I've therefore spent a couple of hours organising, transferring, and collapsing some of the older threads at
WT:RFA2011 - experience has shown that people are quite happy to follow a link to a new, more appropriate location. I've also added some slightly more blatant edit notices in the hope that newcomers will take notice.
If you can, please consider collapsing and copying new threads started by newcomers to the appropriate talk page, drawing their attention to the navigation aid at
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I hope you don't mind, but someone came to my talk page asking for mentorship and I've again recommended you instead. You just seem to have the mentorship thing down to a science and I'd be making it up as I go. You can find the thread on my talk page.--v/r - T P 12:53, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to seek your kind attention in improving my editing skills. I read your pages.-- Day000Walker ( talk) 14:19, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Worm. I've adopted a multitude of editors in my time. I've always handled it informally; I make it clear that I will help them with anything whatsoever and essentially mentor them on an "as needed" basis. I was wondering if you think that the more formal method that you use is better. Most of my adoptees ask for at least some degree of help or advice, but I've yet to see any of them be significantly active in the long run. Do you find the case to be different when they've graduated in in-depth "class"? Do most of your adoptees complete the class? Have they become active? Swarm u | t 16:36, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Dave. Porchcorpter has requested edit filter rights, and I have declined the request. I believe it is far too soon after the expiration of his topic ban to be requesting advanced permissions, but I told him that if there is consensus on his talk page to re-open the request for wider review, I would do so. Your input there is welcome. Thanks, 28bytes ( talk) 03:56, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Talk:Center I've been under the impression that Centre and Center had different meanings. Thanks Jenova 20 15:07, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Worm, I have reviewed a nomination made by User:Porchcorpter, whom you are mentoring, at Template:Did you know nominations/Wenderholm Regional Park. Would it be possible for you to work with him/her to improve reference formatting in the article? I understand that s/he may not understand the importance of reference formatting yet. Crisco 1492 ( talk) 04:55, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm! Sorry to be off IRC. I've had non-stop people at my door, and have been avoiding all live contact. :) I would love to IRC when you get a chance. PM me whenever you like. I would be most grateful. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 10:55, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
I had warned TurboForce for this, which was followed by this, despite my warning. This user has shown a WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT attitude toward what I've been trying to tell him (specifically, NPOV, CIVILITY, and EDITWARRING). Jasper Deng (talk) 03:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Ah, but WP:WIN is just an essay, whilst WP:BATTLE is policy - I do appreciate it's annoying, and will have a word to see if I can improve the situation - but at the moment I don't see anything terrible. Jasper, I'm sorry I'm not always around at the same times you are, but as you can see, I've got quite a few talk page stalkers. In general they offer very good advice, possibly not as I'd say it - but certainly with the sentiments mine would carry.
So, looking at the situation - You seem to be reading his comment as negative, and deserving a block - my reading is that he acknowledged my comments and will ensure that he tempers himself in future (the "okay okay") but he still thinks that the articles are not written correctly. Now, that becomes a content issue - and as I mentioned to Daniel, I'll leave him some feedback about the best way to handle that. There's nothing worth chastising in his second comment, let alone blocking. WormTT · ( talk) 07:49, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
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I don't mean to rush you but, how far have you come in researching ArcAngel -- Christian and Jericho 13:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
Hows this for a strange and unexpected article!? Gay Nigger Association of America Just when you think you've seen it all there's stranger articles out there in WP land lol. Political correctness clearly isn't as bad in America as it is in the UK. Jenova 20 12:37, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey there! Just wanted to check in with you. Someone is missed in the Ambassador program this semester. ; ) I'm guessing that the 2011 RFA reform is keeping you busy, but if not, we could use some help over there. (Throwing out a lifeline.) We have several classes starting without online (or campus) support. If you know of any Wikipedians that may be interested in applying to serve as an Online Ambassador, send them here. Campus Ambassadors can apply here. Taking applications now! ; ) Cind. amuse (Cindy) 14:06, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
There are a few good applications for ambassador pending approval. In particular I was hoping maybe you could comment on this one. -- My76Strat ( talk) 16:56, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm. Please put your opinion in these AFDs: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Advanced SystemCare and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Advanced Vista Optimizer. - Porch corpter ( talk/ contribs) 08:31, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello. You have a new message at Anna Frodesiak's talk page. 14:37, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm so sorry I missed you on IRC last night. I noticed you on in the middle of the night when I got up for 2 minutes. We can try again, my friend. :) Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 05:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
hello ,Worm please take a look at my article Suzhou Harmony Times Square, and give me some advice. thank you NNU-02-05100143
We need you. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 10:10, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm: What happened was as follows: I asked a student to come up and show the class how she could ask for help from an editor for her article, the Suzhou Harmony Times. Under my guidance, she did that. But when it was done we noticed that I hadn't signed out from a previous exercise; nor she in. So she replaced the tildes with her username in as the signature. Sorry. Didn't realise this could be an issue. Njnu-ban-xueshenghao ( talk) 12:47, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Worm, you long ago (June) said you'd help me set up the archiving process for my Talk page. I have read the bot page several times and I simply do not understand it. I don't have lots of Talk page activity, but would like a 6-month archive process. Can you help me? I am happy to do something in return, like proofread or copyedit something you need help with. Or do your laundry. Anything. Thank you.-- TEHodson 04:36, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
I found the said users' mentioning of me in his leaving message to be an attempt to troll me knowing full well that it would wind me up. I done my edits based on TPG Section "Editing Comments - others' comments" - point 3: "Removing harmful posts" - the post in question I felt to be trolling. Colofac ( talk) 15:43, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
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Good news: We now have an important new member. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 18:12, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello, Ambassadors!
I wanted to give you one last update on where we are this term, before my role as Online Facilitator wraps up at the end of this week. Already, there are over 800 students in U.S. classes who have signed up on course pages this term. About 40 classes are active, and we're expecting that many more again once all the classes are up and running.
On a personal note, it's been a huge honor to work with so many great Wikipedians over the last 15 months. Thanks so much to everyone who jumped in and decided to give the ambassador concept a try, and double thanks those of you who were involved early on. Your ideas and insights and enthusiasm have been the foundation of the program, and they will be the keys the future of the program.
Still waiting to get involved with a class this term, or ready to take on more? We have seven classes that are already active and need OA support, and eleven more that have course pages started but don't have active students yet. Please consider joining one or more of these pods!
Active courses that really need Online Ambassadors:
Courses that may be active soon that need Online Ambassadors:
-- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 23:16, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
I think that interaction ban should be turned into an AfD ban for topics I'm not familiar in. I support a self-ban from interacting with that user and want to make it so that I can't bite any more editors. Jasper Deng (talk) 04:35, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
I think Eagles makes a good point: Jasper is still way too bitey for the help desk. The only way I could see it working is if he committed to only answering helpfully, e.g. no telling the person they're in the wrong venue, no reverting "suspicious" questions, no tossing warning templates, no telling the person what they want can't be done: only responding if he can say "the information you're looking for can be found [here]" or "here's how you do it:" or something similar. Leave the "can't help you" responses to someone more diplomatic. Thoughts? 28bytes ( talk) 17:24, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi, do you know how i can add a green tick to my "Current Project" section on my user page? I wanted to tick each car done but don't know how lol Thanks, hope all is well Jenova 20 10:27, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Hey Worm! I was considering an article on Ikechi Nnamani and noticed that an article had been deleted on him in 2009. Would you be willing to email me the contents of the article or to restore it in the subpage User:Ryan Vesey/Ikechi Nnamani? Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm, we haven't talked in a while. I'm wondering if there are Wikipedians I can contact who have subscribed to the New York Times and are willing to purchase an article for a WP article. Thanks! (Oh, and BTW, can you comment in my editor review?) HurricaneFan 25 17:32, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
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This dispute has been going for about a month or a half. My concern with TurboForce is his comments on the mentioned article's talk page, which seem to be rants against Windows (COI warning: I love Windows), after being told repeatedly that such comments are not appropriate for talk pages ( WP:IDHT seems to apply in my opinion, but I may be wrong), and that consensus is against them. His edits to the article are fine enough though, so I need your advice before I can go to a noticeboard. Jasper Deng (talk) 22:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Hello, Worm That Turned. Rcsprinter123 has filed a request at the above page to have his GA topic ban lifted after six months. Your input would be appreciated. |
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I have seen on his talk page that he has been harrassing Adam mugliston. I would just like to say I'm almost certain charles has been looking over every edit I make which does make me feel uncomfortable. Wilbysuffolk Talk to me 15:16, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't go around moving your posts around, so kindly extend me the same courtesy. PumpkinSky talk 17:42, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Thank you sir for your message on my page, was it Σ who told you? How thoughtful of him. But yeah thats perfectly fine, you seem like a really busy guy anyway. The majority of my edits are to do with either politics or 19th / 20th century history. Is there anyone else you would recommend who could take me under their wing for a few months? i did have a previous mentor but unfortunately he doesnt go on much these days. Goldblooded ( talk) 22:36, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Worm!
Been so long, since we've had a chat - better yet, since I last went to Your Adoption School. Well, if you have the time (going through your edit history, you edit as if you don't sleep!), would it be possible if I could proceed with my education at the Adoption school? I apologise for not returning to it for a while - I fail miserably when it comes to procrastination, and that's definately not a good thing to have at my age! :D
Would I be able to start it sometime tommorow? (Monday, 10 October)? If not, some time this upcomming week?
Thank You! -- MelbourneStar☆ (talk to me) 12:56, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey Worm :) There's a possible third DYK/2nd GA up my alley :). Would you mind giving 1906 Florida hurricane a quick copyedit? Thanks! HurricaneFan 25 16:05, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi WTT, thanks for your message a while back. I just wanted to let you know that I haven't completely disappeared, but I recently started a new job in real life and have had no time for Wikipedia of late. I should be back again before too long though, so if you are still happy to be my adopter then could we leave my page archived until I get back and then re-activate it? I am still very keen to learn from you and take your course as soon as real life settles back down again!
And congratulations on becoming an admin a few months ago. I hope it is going well. Sincerely, Antarctic-adventurer (talk) 06:52, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello. Would you be willing to review my edits to see if I'm ready to be nominated for adminship? I have previously run unsuccessfully under the username Wikiwoohoo. Cloudbound ( talk) 02:30, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi, please take a lookat the Daily Mail talk page and give me your opinion on the "my chemical romance" section. It's Jenova20 here not logged in. Thanks 90.209.124.27 ( talk) 22:54, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello again!
Just wanted to say thanks again for all your help early on! Hellblazer now has a little green plus sign at the top right! Couldn't have done this without all your help, and your great adoption course. Benny Digital Speak Your Brains 07:51, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Another edit war is going on, with a guy who is insisting that a band member Tweeting that it was his band whose song was played over a TV show is a reliable source. Twitter is not considered a reliable source from my understanding of WP:IRS, but he won't stop putting it back. The page is Running Up that Hill and there's a discussion on the Talk page, in which he is rude and just doesn't seem to get it. I wrote to him on his talk page User:Brandon, but nothing is helping. I can't understand the form to fill out. We need a second opinion or two. Can you help?-- TEHodson 04:31, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Someone else just came to the page and absolutely declared Twitter an unreliable source and reverted the edit you restored. I'm not touching it again, but he cited the same things I did. Interesting to see if the edit gets re-reverted (you know what I mean).-- TEHodson 22:13, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hey there WTT, sorry to bother you but ive got a quick question; something ive noticed is that a lot of editors when they sign their posts have their name in different colours or have "return fire" or "shout back" etc next to it , do you know how to get this? Goldblooded ( talk) 12:45, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Ah right , ive got the jist of it but how do i add colour? Goldblooded Return Fire 14:43, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
and is there a way to get the latter part to be aligned at the top as opposed to at the bottom? Goldblooded Return Fire 14:44, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Ok, ill look at that in a bit thanks :) Also , are you allowed to "borrow" an idea off another editor? Not nessarially just for sigs, for example i noticed this other user had a page where other users could post reviews/complaints about that user; would i be able to copy his idea? (or part of it) Goldblooded Return Fire 14:50, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
And also, im a little confused by the archive system - is there a way to create a seperate archives for the complaints page? [ [4]]
Thank you for all your help :) thanks for doing the coding too, much appreciated. Goldblooded Return Fire 15:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
One last thing, do you by any chance know how to make a page redirect?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stavtordt Goldblooded Return Fire 20:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Alright , thank you :) Also concerning the sig; how do i get a part of it in colour? say i wanted the return fire bit just in black what would the coding be? User:Goldblooded (Return Fire) 15:42, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
[[User talk:Goldblooded|<sup style="color:#000000;">(Return Fire)</sup>]]
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c. 23:34, 13 October 2011 (UTC)... that they got mentioned here. Wow, wtf? Oh dear. Do people not have anything better to do than think up new and silly variations on my username? I would've thought the obvious humour was plenty to be going on with. -- Demiurge1000 ( talk) 22:25, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
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Can you snow this? Or do you think it's too early? -- Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 06:12, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
This is my 12000th edit! I have definitely got them up since April! Thanks for all your help as ever, Worm. Rcsprinter (rap) 13:42, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Since you're around, could you look at this message which I just placed, and possibally chime in. The referenced conversation is this page. Sven Manguard Wha? 12:45, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I already know how to and I'm putting it on now. I gotta get away from this. JamesAlan1986 * talk 13:12, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi it's James I already put the break on so I have to use my IP. I set it for the 22nd. It should end at 12:01:01 am, if it doesn't look right you are more then welcome to fix it. 74.83.199.78 ( talk) 13:23, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Okay I will. ^_^ 74.83.199.78 ( talk) 13:38, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Okay saw what you posted on your history page. And you're more then welcome to e-mail me anytime. I'm waiting on status and novice to get ahold of me on there right now. 74.83.199.78 ( talk) 14:23, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Worm, mind removing [redacted] from the history? Don't really want everyone seeing his email, do we? — Status { talk contribs 14:27, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm,
I've started reviewing GANs, and now I feel that I'm worried about whether I'm on the right track, reviewing articles (like am I too tough?). [This concern was sparked by finding out about a GA-nominating/reviewing topic ban for a user.] My two GA reviews so far are this and this. I'm going to work on this one soon. Although I consider our relation via adoption is over, I'm hoping you can mentor me now, especially in the GA reviewing section. Thanks! HurricaneFan 25 17:34, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing the #: thing [5]; I was trying to figure out how to do that. Where's the embarrassed smiley when you need it? CRGreathouse ( t | c) 16:59, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi Worm. I considered replying at the ANI thread for TreasuryTag but I guess this turned into a bit of a rant that is only tangentially related to the case at hand. I'll put it to you here instead.
On the question I asked you about 'last chances', I suppose my concern is that Wikipedia is effectively a toothless tiger when it comes to problematic long-term editors. It seems every month there's one of a familiar list of names appearing in ANI over yet more misbehaviour, with a chorus of people saying 'enough is enough', and a vocal group of supporters trying to downplay the whole thing or rationalise that the editor's contributions somehow give him immunity from all of the rules we expect people to follow. Inevitably either nothing happens, or a block or ban is placed only to be overturned a few days later by yet another sympathetic admin, and the whole cycle repeats month after month.
I applaud Wikipedia's patience and forgiveness (as well as your own) in dealing with situations like this, but we really need to be able to have the teeth to show some of these people the door. The way things go at the moment, these editors have no real reason to change. Why would they, when we've proven that any time someone finally takes a stand and does something about it, it doesn't matter because there's always someone else around the next corner who will have sympathy or reverse the decision? We've created an environment where 'barely tolerable' is all an editor needs to be for a few days to reset the entire process back to square one. We've communicated clearly to people that would take advantage of it that many of our policies and guidelines are effectively weightless. Personally, I'm sick of seeing serial-incivility pests getting free run over the project because nobody can sustain a civility block on an established editor without it being overturned.
I understand that to you, this situation looks like 'he gets one last chance and I'll give it my best to help him' but to me it looks like 'another name on the list of people I'm going to see complaints about month after month without anything being done'. I guess that's an AGF issue on my part, but it just wearies me to see good editors and new editors with a lot of potential giving up on Wikipedia, driven away by those same people we see complained about regularly, because there's a systematic failure to draw a line in the sand and really stick to it. I haven't voted in the discussion on TT at ANI and I remain neutral on that specific case, but I think these things are worth consideration in the way we approach situations like this. TechnoSymbiosis ( talk) 03:45, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Worm! Kind of relieved that's over. Just wanted to thank you for the RfA nom. It was pretty cool that you held out for #100 (and that you wagered it would reach that level in the first place). I (quite seriously) could not have asked for a better nominator or nom statement. Thanks again, Swarm X 04:44, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
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