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Here's the 15th iteration of Serge's personal WP:AIV. Let me know if you like me to look into any instances that you feel may require warnings, blocks, page protections, or just general intervention. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 15:48, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Hey Sergecross73 msg me, I was wondering if you could take a look at the page, some anonymous user did this to my page which I find unnecessary, and was wondering if you could issue a warning to him/her
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=746029111&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop
Thanks! Zacharyalejandro ( talk) 22:42, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
I have a new computer and it won't let me upload audio files. I now have an Apple laptop. Statik N ( talk) 22:52, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I wanted to create a page for Giygas, the main antagonist of the Mother series. I've already designated a page for the character, here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Giygas_(character)&action=edit&redlink=1
There seems to be enough coverage of Giygas, from what I've checked. IGN, WatchMojo, and The A.V. Club have coverage of him. Can you help me?
Thanks, ( TheJoebro64 ( talk) 21:51, 7 November 2016 (UTC))
On the charts part of the Results May Vary article, one is in bold and one is NOT in bold. Can you please help me with this? Thanks. Statik N ( talk) 01:09, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
I've expressed what I don't like about the criteria and format being proposed so far; yeah, sue me. I expect this will prompt people to suggest some more inclusive criteria. If people agree to use the criteria I don't like, obviously there's nothing I can do to prevent that. But my opposition to the few proposals made so far doesn't mean that I oppose any possible change, only that I think we should explore more possibilities, because I think there are better ones out there.
I *have* explained what I believe should (and shouldn't) be the criteria for this article entries; that you don't like them doesn't mean that I didn't express them. I will continue to denounce the changes I don't like and explain why I don't like them, but I'll try to be nicer about it. Diego ( talk) 19:18, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
so your saying that the main few sonic games are not the main series i edit?. are you serious? those things i edit are not the main series sonic games Sergecross73? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonicgalaxy27 ( talk • contribs) 01:01, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
hey dude some guy name ImageRemovalBot remove the image of ash from sun and moon image dude for some reason. i was trying to undo the image that he remove but after i press undo the image is still not up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonicgalaxy27 ( talk • contribs) 11:49, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Hello,
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Hey Serge, how's it going? I came here to talk about a user that is being unreasonable. User:Walter Görlitz has repeatedly accused me of things that I have not done or unknowingly was incorrect. Here's a report of me making up information for Emery's article, when the previous revision stated that a member had rejoined the band, I simply moved his name in the infobox from former to current. Here's an discussion where a fellow user accused him of WP:HOUND and him dodging that. Here's an article where he accused me of vandalism, where I did no such thing. I added touring members to the timeline, with a category in the timeline specifically for Touring Members. This user has repeatedly sent me message such as "stop editing" or the I treat it like "zine or fan site". This user has become a pain in my side and I'm sick of it. Is there a way to report him? Metalworker14 ( Yo) 8:49, November 14, 2016 (UTC)
A user is accusing me of something that is most likely a huge misunderstanding at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria Rita Epik. The article subject was part of a boycott at the Eurovision 1979, I mentioned that in my rationale for Keeping the article. The next thing that happens is that user Rms125a@hotmail.com accuses me of basically saying that He by placing the article up for deletion has done some sort of boycott [4]. Either the user is just confused and has not read the article he has put up for AfD or it is just wanting to start a fight I guess. I just find it really baffling how many AfD initiaters that uses the process as a personal playground. I will not respond any further to the user as it seems he is highly unlikely to respond in any reasonable way to any kind of explanation. I also find it baffling that the user is using an almost verge on semi-racist tone in its latest comment towards me about being Turkish and for that reason being anti-semitic (I am Swedish lol). Regards, BabbaQ ( talk) 16:59, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross73.
A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.
It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.
If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins). MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi, admin, another big problem has emerged. As you know, I have created articles for many Tekken characters, and I must say, it wasn't that easy. During that time, I also learned how to upload pictures. But anyway, here's the link to the page of that guy who is giving me problems. [5] The guy just started to delete all of the articles and merged them into List of Tekken characters. That is really pissing me off that I can't even describe to you. When he deleted Ogre's article, he said this - article mostly cruft and original research with no viable third-party reception. There's nothing wrong with the article - everything is written as it should be, and everything that I listed is true, all those lines were from official Tekken Wikias, and I didn't made anything out of my head. Same goes with reception lists. The guy is looking like a troll to me, but anyway, for the other articles, I don't care that much, but at least, save Ogre's article. It is after all, the first article that I made and it should stay, because once again, there's nothing wrong about it and there's no reason to delete it. As soon as you see this, and after I see your thoughts, I'll bring the article back. If anyone tries to delete it, I'll say that I have your permission to bring it/ keep it. Thanks. Disturbedasylum
Thanks for the advice and for the heads up, admin. I just feel that it's not right to delete the articles just like, especially if a lot of effort (at least in my case) was put into it. And I don't see a single thing or reason for it to be removed, maybe the article isn't notable for them, but for me and for many others it is. I know that it would be too much for the other articles as well to be brought back, but at least, this one can/should stay. Keeping it won't hurt anyone that much. Disturbedasylum
Alrighty then. I'm glad that this article can stay, but for real, everything that is written is truthful for the character, there's nothing wrong. I didn't made any of those words out of my head. Just because the character hasn't appeared in too many games (although Ogre had a cameo at one point or another in every Tekken game after Tekken 3, had a significant impact on the story and is one of the most iconic bosses of its franchise) that doesn't mean that their articles should be removed. The same goes for reception lists, too. I believe that you saw that, but if you didn't or if you haven't looked at the article as a whole, you can. I believe that all those sources are reliable, if that's one of the problems. Disturbedasylum
The issue here is not whether the article content is true or false, but rather the lack of notability and possible WP:OWN by its most prominent contributor, who additionally felt the need to hurl insults even though I've penned and revised multiple ably-sourced articles on lesser-known fighting game characters, but I digress. In fact, Ogre has been previously merged twice [6] [7] because each time it's read like a Tekken wiki that is heavy on unsourced fancruft regarding the character's storyline and costume designs (and is it really important what he says prior to battle?), and this latest incarnation is no exception. Since the article was revived by Disturbedasylum in 2014, zero effort has been made to cite sources, save for the threadbare reception section that consists of the same old gaming top-ten lists found in nearly every VG character article — with half of the cites therein coming from GamesRadar and Complex alone — and don't help in establishing notability. Placing sixteenth in a top-20 Tekken character ranking doesn't really tell us anything about him. Calling him "iconic" is hyperbolic at best; he's made one selectable appearance in the main games and that was back in 1997, while he finished 47th in the 2012 Namco fan poll linked in the article. I performed searches on Ogre prior to the re-merge and they produced nothing. Heck, Disturbedasylum openly said that the article content was taken from Tekken wikias. And that's the problem right there. Wikias are not viable Wikipedia sources as they are fan-made and can be edited by anyone. sixtynine • speak up • 07:05, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
Actually, he made more than one selectable appearance: aside from Tekken 3, he is also selectable in TTT and TTT2, Tekken Card Tournament, Tekken Revolution (True Form, though he's not playable), Tekken 5 Arcade History and Devil Within Mode: (one selectable and one unselectable), Tekken Hybrid, Street Fighter X Tekken, Namco X Capcom (unplayable boss) and he appears as a customizable costume in Soul Calibur V. Plus in appears in one way or another (cameo) in every game after Tekken 3. Even though those lines/words were taken from Tekkenpedia and other cites regarding the video game characters, there's nothing wrong or false about them. Disturbedasylum
Point taken, Serge, and before I even read your reply the lightbulb went on that opening a discussion first would've been more appropriate. It's that, as you mentioned, I've seen other VG editors forge ahead and merge a number of non-notable character articles in the past, so I've always believed that was the proper plan of action in regards to this issue. When Disturbedasylum reverted the changes I thought he was the one in the wrong mainly due to having no edit summary. I've been immersed in VG editing for the past couple years and have absorbed so many do's and dont's about the process that it can be hard to juggle at times, and for better or worse I've always been of the school of bold editing. Thanks for your reply and sorry for turning your page into a knock-down-drag-out. :) sixtynine • speak up • 03:24, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 45 | ← | Archive 47 | Archive 48 | Archive 49 | Archive 50 | Archive 51 | → | Archive 55 |
Here's the 15th iteration of Serge's personal WP:AIV. Let me know if you like me to look into any instances that you feel may require warnings, blocks, page protections, or just general intervention. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 15:48, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Hey Sergecross73 msg me, I was wondering if you could take a look at the page, some anonymous user did this to my page which I find unnecessary, and was wondering if you could issue a warning to him/her
https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=746029111&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop
Thanks! Zacharyalejandro ( talk) 22:42, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
I have a new computer and it won't let me upload audio files. I now have an Apple laptop. Statik N ( talk) 22:52, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I wanted to create a page for Giygas, the main antagonist of the Mother series. I've already designated a page for the character, here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Giygas_(character)&action=edit&redlink=1
There seems to be enough coverage of Giygas, from what I've checked. IGN, WatchMojo, and The A.V. Club have coverage of him. Can you help me?
Thanks, ( TheJoebro64 ( talk) 21:51, 7 November 2016 (UTC))
On the charts part of the Results May Vary article, one is in bold and one is NOT in bold. Can you please help me with this? Thanks. Statik N ( talk) 01:09, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
I've expressed what I don't like about the criteria and format being proposed so far; yeah, sue me. I expect this will prompt people to suggest some more inclusive criteria. If people agree to use the criteria I don't like, obviously there's nothing I can do to prevent that. But my opposition to the few proposals made so far doesn't mean that I oppose any possible change, only that I think we should explore more possibilities, because I think there are better ones out there.
I *have* explained what I believe should (and shouldn't) be the criteria for this article entries; that you don't like them doesn't mean that I didn't express them. I will continue to denounce the changes I don't like and explain why I don't like them, but I'll try to be nicer about it. Diego ( talk) 19:18, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
so your saying that the main few sonic games are not the main series i edit?. are you serious? those things i edit are not the main series sonic games Sergecross73? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonicgalaxy27 ( talk • contribs) 01:01, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
hey dude some guy name ImageRemovalBot remove the image of ash from sun and moon image dude for some reason. i was trying to undo the image that he remove but after i press undo the image is still not up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonicgalaxy27 ( talk • contribs) 11:49, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Hello,
Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 20:34, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
Hey Serge, how's it going? I came here to talk about a user that is being unreasonable. User:Walter Görlitz has repeatedly accused me of things that I have not done or unknowingly was incorrect. Here's a report of me making up information for Emery's article, when the previous revision stated that a member had rejoined the band, I simply moved his name in the infobox from former to current. Here's an discussion where a fellow user accused him of WP:HOUND and him dodging that. Here's an article where he accused me of vandalism, where I did no such thing. I added touring members to the timeline, with a category in the timeline specifically for Touring Members. This user has repeatedly sent me message such as "stop editing" or the I treat it like "zine or fan site". This user has become a pain in my side and I'm sick of it. Is there a way to report him? Metalworker14 ( Yo) 8:49, November 14, 2016 (UTC)
A user is accusing me of something that is most likely a huge misunderstanding at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria Rita Epik. The article subject was part of a boycott at the Eurovision 1979, I mentioned that in my rationale for Keeping the article. The next thing that happens is that user Rms125a@hotmail.com accuses me of basically saying that He by placing the article up for deletion has done some sort of boycott [4]. Either the user is just confused and has not read the article he has put up for AfD or it is just wanting to start a fight I guess. I just find it really baffling how many AfD initiaters that uses the process as a personal playground. I will not respond any further to the user as it seems he is highly unlikely to respond in any reasonable way to any kind of explanation. I also find it baffling that the user is using an almost verge on semi-racist tone in its latest comment towards me about being Turkish and for that reason being anti-semitic (I am Swedish lol). Regards, BabbaQ ( talk) 16:59, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross73.
A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.
It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.
If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins). MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi, admin, another big problem has emerged. As you know, I have created articles for many Tekken characters, and I must say, it wasn't that easy. During that time, I also learned how to upload pictures. But anyway, here's the link to the page of that guy who is giving me problems. [5] The guy just started to delete all of the articles and merged them into List of Tekken characters. That is really pissing me off that I can't even describe to you. When he deleted Ogre's article, he said this - article mostly cruft and original research with no viable third-party reception. There's nothing wrong with the article - everything is written as it should be, and everything that I listed is true, all those lines were from official Tekken Wikias, and I didn't made anything out of my head. Same goes with reception lists. The guy is looking like a troll to me, but anyway, for the other articles, I don't care that much, but at least, save Ogre's article. It is after all, the first article that I made and it should stay, because once again, there's nothing wrong about it and there's no reason to delete it. As soon as you see this, and after I see your thoughts, I'll bring the article back. If anyone tries to delete it, I'll say that I have your permission to bring it/ keep it. Thanks. Disturbedasylum
Thanks for the advice and for the heads up, admin. I just feel that it's not right to delete the articles just like, especially if a lot of effort (at least in my case) was put into it. And I don't see a single thing or reason for it to be removed, maybe the article isn't notable for them, but for me and for many others it is. I know that it would be too much for the other articles as well to be brought back, but at least, this one can/should stay. Keeping it won't hurt anyone that much. Disturbedasylum
Alrighty then. I'm glad that this article can stay, but for real, everything that is written is truthful for the character, there's nothing wrong. I didn't made any of those words out of my head. Just because the character hasn't appeared in too many games (although Ogre had a cameo at one point or another in every Tekken game after Tekken 3, had a significant impact on the story and is one of the most iconic bosses of its franchise) that doesn't mean that their articles should be removed. The same goes for reception lists, too. I believe that you saw that, but if you didn't or if you haven't looked at the article as a whole, you can. I believe that all those sources are reliable, if that's one of the problems. Disturbedasylum
The issue here is not whether the article content is true or false, but rather the lack of notability and possible WP:OWN by its most prominent contributor, who additionally felt the need to hurl insults even though I've penned and revised multiple ably-sourced articles on lesser-known fighting game characters, but I digress. In fact, Ogre has been previously merged twice [6] [7] because each time it's read like a Tekken wiki that is heavy on unsourced fancruft regarding the character's storyline and costume designs (and is it really important what he says prior to battle?), and this latest incarnation is no exception. Since the article was revived by Disturbedasylum in 2014, zero effort has been made to cite sources, save for the threadbare reception section that consists of the same old gaming top-ten lists found in nearly every VG character article — with half of the cites therein coming from GamesRadar and Complex alone — and don't help in establishing notability. Placing sixteenth in a top-20 Tekken character ranking doesn't really tell us anything about him. Calling him "iconic" is hyperbolic at best; he's made one selectable appearance in the main games and that was back in 1997, while he finished 47th in the 2012 Namco fan poll linked in the article. I performed searches on Ogre prior to the re-merge and they produced nothing. Heck, Disturbedasylum openly said that the article content was taken from Tekken wikias. And that's the problem right there. Wikias are not viable Wikipedia sources as they are fan-made and can be edited by anyone. sixtynine • speak up • 07:05, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
Actually, he made more than one selectable appearance: aside from Tekken 3, he is also selectable in TTT and TTT2, Tekken Card Tournament, Tekken Revolution (True Form, though he's not playable), Tekken 5 Arcade History and Devil Within Mode: (one selectable and one unselectable), Tekken Hybrid, Street Fighter X Tekken, Namco X Capcom (unplayable boss) and he appears as a customizable costume in Soul Calibur V. Plus in appears in one way or another (cameo) in every game after Tekken 3. Even though those lines/words were taken from Tekkenpedia and other cites regarding the video game characters, there's nothing wrong or false about them. Disturbedasylum
Point taken, Serge, and before I even read your reply the lightbulb went on that opening a discussion first would've been more appropriate. It's that, as you mentioned, I've seen other VG editors forge ahead and merge a number of non-notable character articles in the past, so I've always believed that was the proper plan of action in regards to this issue. When Disturbedasylum reverted the changes I thought he was the one in the wrong mainly due to having no edit summary. I've been immersed in VG editing for the past couple years and have absorbed so many do's and dont's about the process that it can be hard to juggle at times, and for better or worse I've always been of the school of bold editing. Thanks for your reply and sorry for turning your page into a knock-down-drag-out. :) sixtynine • speak up • 03:24, 16 November 2016 (UTC)