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Thank you for the guidance. Sorry for the rudeness; I recognize you didn't deserve that. TlonicChronic ( talk) 14:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
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1. [Undeniable - The Story Independent Soul Music Movement] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy8QF0q82Lk (which spawned a tv series with PBS focused on individual artists [Indie Soul Journey] https://www.netaonline.org/episode/indie-soul-journeys [Undeniable director brings TV project] https://rollingout.com/2017/01/25/undeniable-director-brings-latest-project-indie-soul-journeys-television/) 2. [Essential Guide to Contemporary RnB Soul Music] https://thebluesproject.co/2023/05/essential-guide-contemporary-rnb-soul-music/ 3. [How Indie Soul became a multibillion dollar genre of music] https://www.deezer.com/us/episode/277717612?utm_campaign=clipboard-generic&utm_source=user_sharing&utm_content=talk_episode-277717612&deferredFl=1 4. A google search for "indie-soul artist" which will generate 100's and 100's of articles by Rolling Stone, Fader, Billboard, Reuters, PBS, Music Blogs about song/album/artists who clearly state they are indie-soul genre including dozens of grammy nominees and winners. The 10,000+ playlists named indie soul on whichever music streamer you use. 5. Is there a way I can provide you text book notations?
In Regards to the discussion I was trying to be polite and do not want to blast him on a page. Accept I directly told him I was in the process of adding sources and was in the middle of doing so and told him I was working backwards. Then he AFD'd it after instantaneously getting rejected from speedy. For saying I made up the subject and term. At no point did he follow any of the basic steps of guide to delete. The same statements the attempted deleter made on my talk page, first saying "I made up the term" then that indie cant be a genre it justs means "independent." The case with all things that statement can be applied to /info/en/?search=Indie_rock /info/en/?search=Indie_folk /info/en/?search=Indie_electronic /info/en/?search=Indie_pop So did he mark those for deletion for the same? No. Because that carries no logic. Nor does a comment about "well an article only refers to the artist as indie soul once" Does Rolling Stone need to repeat it over and over in the same article? You only to tell me a banana is yellow once. No logic either. It seems he has another prerogative in this. These are all independent music styles as has been documented and accepted for decades because they developed on their own trajectories with more collaboration than at studio level, alternative production techniques(budget), and more freedom, and historically had more media attention as they are traditionally white music. And artists who identify themselves as indie-soul, of which there are a tremendous amount of very recognized artists now, are a distinct genre same as each of the above, and including this one. Indie soul is referenced consistently on all major media platforms, in every music publication of note, and on playlists and curation at all major music services as a genre, and the other authority "google search trends" list as a separate music genre. It is not even at all niche. It is actually preposterous his action read of white unawareness. It shouldn't have ever even been an issue. It may not be part of his world community which is fine, so he should have reserved participation. I believe that an appropriate information page on this topic ads to the Diversity of wikipedia. I noticed a non-representive and glaring hole. I am in music composition university, studying music. And now he again has marked it for deletion with everything he could think of. If you don't know about a subject and aren't willing to google you should move on to something familiar. Because his comments where transparently entirely uniformed at best.
I am hoping the case it is something he is just unfamiliar because the zealotous nature of trying to remove a pervasive music genre with exactly similar ones from more "traditional" American genres seems unusual to say the least. This page serves the mission of wikipedia to provide knowledge on a subject of interest that was inadequately ordered and addressed, without any actual question of notability and is a significant part of many communities. A simple google search would tell him that in about 20 sec's. I believe it to be a great start to an interesting subject in Wikipedias music, right along with the multiple types of other music. Black music is not a monolith. And I think you will find the references quite fine as it is easy to find thousands of articles, festivals, reviews and documentsa bout indie-soul artists. This isn't a controversial topic and if it is for someone specifically they should reflect. Atmospherpolyphonic ( talk) 10:23, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
So what should you do then?
Good luck! Sergecross73 msg me 18:19, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox person § Education and alma mater parameters. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 04:52, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).
Quick question, I have plans to write about a single from an album that never got it's own cover artwork. Do I just leave the infobox image blank? Panini! • 🥪 18:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Serge. Hope you haven't forgotten the Taiwanese editor User:Tim96144, whom you blocked multiple times for copyright infringement, finally indefinitely. They were then caught socking. Well they're now using the range 111.246.112.214/16, geolocating to Taiwan. Tim has been editing on and off adding charts (which was Tim96144's MO) for the past several months. I'm aware you can't publicly connect an IP address to a user account but I'm 100% sure this is them. They return every year to add year-end charts that they think I've forgotten about. Ss 112 11:04, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Mentioned you here, so just flagging as a courtesy. Of course the issue is not remotely with your conduct. Have a great evening. Star Mississippi 01:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, since you were involved in the discussion about my previously proposed edit, would you mind responding to me and Meters on this discussion to give your thoughts about my new edit and help steer the discussion in the right direction? Thank you. EpicTiger87 ( talk) 19:31, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding the edit dispute on the John de Lancie article. Since you may be busy and this minor editing dispute may not be a priority for you, I fully understand if you do not participate in this. The thread is " John de Lancie" .
Please join us to help form a consensus if you are interested. Thank you!
EpicTiger87 ( talk) 23:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Hey, we have a dispute and we're hoping you would participate in it. Cleter ( talk) 14:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello Serge. The user Portalomaniac.669 has gone around to several dozen album articles (including some I thought would be on your watchlist) and tagged listings of bonus tracks with citation needed tags despite the fact WP:TRACKLIST (in MOS:ALBUM) states track listings don't need to be sourced as we'd just be sourcing the liner notes. I've asked them to stop, but there's also multiple instances of concerning tagging for a user who's been here for two years, like putting cn tags in section headings: [1], [2], [3], and adding citations to headings [4], [5]... maybe you could help address this? Thanks. Ss 112 14:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross73, its not the best idea putting unsourced back into a mainspace after its been redirected. More than 90% of article was unsourced. It reflectd the worst habits of spammers and UPE and wouldn't expect that behaviour from yourself, not that your either. If it was newb editor I would issue a distruptive edit warning against them. I think it was a particularly poor choice. scope_creep Talk 17:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Party pooper... Panini! • 🥪 20:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).
Music editor Zacharythoden saw fit to mistakenly attack @ Lk95: on their talk page (thinking Lk95 had redirected the song article they just made) here, calling them a "loserrr", "lame ass" and saying they took the "lame-o editor nazi route" (one message and already being accused of being a Nazi, don't worry about Godwin's law). Not sure what action you want to take against this, if just a warning or not, but thought you should know, as they don't reply to me on their talk page. Ss 112 14:55, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
I am reaching out to report a critical issue concerning the accuracy of information on Wikipedia, specifically regarding the origin of a music genre. My recent registration on Wikipedia was prompted by the discovery of false information attributing the origin of a music genre established in South Africa to Nigeria, as claimed by a registered user.
Upon reviewing the Wikipedia page on [the gender 'Amapiano'], I was troubled to find that the origin of the music genre was inaccurately represented, falsely labeled as originating from Nigeria. As someone familiar with the history and cultural significance of the genre, which was established in South Africa, I am deeply concerned about the implications of this error and the potential dissemination of misinformation to readers.
To rectify this issue, I am kindly requesting that the misattribution of the music genre's origin be thoroughly reviewed and corrected to accurately reflect its establishment in South Africa.
Thank you for your immediate attention to this urgent matter.
I will be available to provide further clarification or assistance if needed. EncyclopediaEureka ( talk) 23:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Wikipedia Administrator
kindly please assist, EncyclopediaEureka ( talk) 23:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Just letting you know as I found it strange, but it's not every day you see an experienced editor adding the full lyrics for a classic rock song to Wikipedia like they're not aware of our policy on copyright or not think that that would be a copyright violation. And moreover, the fact that nobody cared for nearly a whole month until I just removed it, tagged the page for copyvio-revdel, and warned them not to do that. Ss 112 14:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello Sergecross73, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.
While your contributions are appreciated, I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Jeff Friedl, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Friedl (2nd nomination).
Deletion discussions usually run for seven days and are not votes. Our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. The most common issue in these discussions is notability, but it's not the only aspect that may be discussed; read the nomination and any other comments carefully before you contribute to the discussion. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.
If you have any questions, please leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|Chris troutman}}
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Chris Troutman ( talk) 16:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 100 | Archive 101 | Archive 102 | Archive 103 | Archive 104 | Archive 105 |
Thank you for the guidance. Sorry for the rudeness; I recognize you didn't deserve that. TlonicChronic ( talk) 14:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
Lord Sjones23 (
talk -
contributions) is wishing you
Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's
Solstice or
Christmas,
Diwali,
Hogmanay,
Hanukkah,
Lenaia,
Festivus or even the
Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{ subst: User:WereSpielChequers/Dec19b}} to your friends' talk pages.
Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 07:29, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
1. [Undeniable - The Story Independent Soul Music Movement] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy8QF0q82Lk (which spawned a tv series with PBS focused on individual artists [Indie Soul Journey] https://www.netaonline.org/episode/indie-soul-journeys [Undeniable director brings TV project] https://rollingout.com/2017/01/25/undeniable-director-brings-latest-project-indie-soul-journeys-television/) 2. [Essential Guide to Contemporary RnB Soul Music] https://thebluesproject.co/2023/05/essential-guide-contemporary-rnb-soul-music/ 3. [How Indie Soul became a multibillion dollar genre of music] https://www.deezer.com/us/episode/277717612?utm_campaign=clipboard-generic&utm_source=user_sharing&utm_content=talk_episode-277717612&deferredFl=1 4. A google search for "indie-soul artist" which will generate 100's and 100's of articles by Rolling Stone, Fader, Billboard, Reuters, PBS, Music Blogs about song/album/artists who clearly state they are indie-soul genre including dozens of grammy nominees and winners. The 10,000+ playlists named indie soul on whichever music streamer you use. 5. Is there a way I can provide you text book notations?
In Regards to the discussion I was trying to be polite and do not want to blast him on a page. Accept I directly told him I was in the process of adding sources and was in the middle of doing so and told him I was working backwards. Then he AFD'd it after instantaneously getting rejected from speedy. For saying I made up the subject and term. At no point did he follow any of the basic steps of guide to delete. The same statements the attempted deleter made on my talk page, first saying "I made up the term" then that indie cant be a genre it justs means "independent." The case with all things that statement can be applied to /info/en/?search=Indie_rock /info/en/?search=Indie_folk /info/en/?search=Indie_electronic /info/en/?search=Indie_pop So did he mark those for deletion for the same? No. Because that carries no logic. Nor does a comment about "well an article only refers to the artist as indie soul once" Does Rolling Stone need to repeat it over and over in the same article? You only to tell me a banana is yellow once. No logic either. It seems he has another prerogative in this. These are all independent music styles as has been documented and accepted for decades because they developed on their own trajectories with more collaboration than at studio level, alternative production techniques(budget), and more freedom, and historically had more media attention as they are traditionally white music. And artists who identify themselves as indie-soul, of which there are a tremendous amount of very recognized artists now, are a distinct genre same as each of the above, and including this one. Indie soul is referenced consistently on all major media platforms, in every music publication of note, and on playlists and curation at all major music services as a genre, and the other authority "google search trends" list as a separate music genre. It is not even at all niche. It is actually preposterous his action read of white unawareness. It shouldn't have ever even been an issue. It may not be part of his world community which is fine, so he should have reserved participation. I believe that an appropriate information page on this topic ads to the Diversity of wikipedia. I noticed a non-representive and glaring hole. I am in music composition university, studying music. And now he again has marked it for deletion with everything he could think of. If you don't know about a subject and aren't willing to google you should move on to something familiar. Because his comments where transparently entirely uniformed at best.
I am hoping the case it is something he is just unfamiliar because the zealotous nature of trying to remove a pervasive music genre with exactly similar ones from more "traditional" American genres seems unusual to say the least. This page serves the mission of wikipedia to provide knowledge on a subject of interest that was inadequately ordered and addressed, without any actual question of notability and is a significant part of many communities. A simple google search would tell him that in about 20 sec's. I believe it to be a great start to an interesting subject in Wikipedias music, right along with the multiple types of other music. Black music is not a monolith. And I think you will find the references quite fine as it is easy to find thousands of articles, festivals, reviews and documentsa bout indie-soul artists. This isn't a controversial topic and if it is for someone specifically they should reflect. Atmospherpolyphonic ( talk) 10:23, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
So what should you do then?
Good luck! Sergecross73 msg me 18:19, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox person § Education and alma mater parameters. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 04:52, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).
Quick question, I have plans to write about a single from an album that never got it's own cover artwork. Do I just leave the infobox image blank? Panini! • 🥪 18:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Serge. Hope you haven't forgotten the Taiwanese editor User:Tim96144, whom you blocked multiple times for copyright infringement, finally indefinitely. They were then caught socking. Well they're now using the range 111.246.112.214/16, geolocating to Taiwan. Tim has been editing on and off adding charts (which was Tim96144's MO) for the past several months. I'm aware you can't publicly connect an IP address to a user account but I'm 100% sure this is them. They return every year to add year-end charts that they think I've forgotten about. Ss 112 11:04, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Mentioned you here, so just flagging as a courtesy. Of course the issue is not remotely with your conduct. Have a great evening. Star Mississippi 01:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello, since you were involved in the discussion about my previously proposed edit, would you mind responding to me and Meters on this discussion to give your thoughts about my new edit and help steer the discussion in the right direction? Thank you. EpicTiger87 ( talk) 19:31, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding the edit dispute on the John de Lancie article. Since you may be busy and this minor editing dispute may not be a priority for you, I fully understand if you do not participate in this. The thread is " John de Lancie" .
Please join us to help form a consensus if you are interested. Thank you!
EpicTiger87 ( talk) 23:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Hey, we have a dispute and we're hoping you would participate in it. Cleter ( talk) 14:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Hello Serge. The user Portalomaniac.669 has gone around to several dozen album articles (including some I thought would be on your watchlist) and tagged listings of bonus tracks with citation needed tags despite the fact WP:TRACKLIST (in MOS:ALBUM) states track listings don't need to be sourced as we'd just be sourcing the liner notes. I've asked them to stop, but there's also multiple instances of concerning tagging for a user who's been here for two years, like putting cn tags in section headings: [1], [2], [3], and adding citations to headings [4], [5]... maybe you could help address this? Thanks. Ss 112 14:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Sergecross73, its not the best idea putting unsourced back into a mainspace after its been redirected. More than 90% of article was unsourced. It reflectd the worst habits of spammers and UPE and wouldn't expect that behaviour from yourself, not that your either. If it was newb editor I would issue a distruptive edit warning against them. I think it was a particularly poor choice. scope_creep Talk 17:45, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
Party pooper... Panini! • 🥪 20:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).
Music editor Zacharythoden saw fit to mistakenly attack @ Lk95: on their talk page (thinking Lk95 had redirected the song article they just made) here, calling them a "loserrr", "lame ass" and saying they took the "lame-o editor nazi route" (one message and already being accused of being a Nazi, don't worry about Godwin's law). Not sure what action you want to take against this, if just a warning or not, but thought you should know, as they don't reply to me on their talk page. Ss 112 14:55, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
I am reaching out to report a critical issue concerning the accuracy of information on Wikipedia, specifically regarding the origin of a music genre. My recent registration on Wikipedia was prompted by the discovery of false information attributing the origin of a music genre established in South Africa to Nigeria, as claimed by a registered user.
Upon reviewing the Wikipedia page on [the gender 'Amapiano'], I was troubled to find that the origin of the music genre was inaccurately represented, falsely labeled as originating from Nigeria. As someone familiar with the history and cultural significance of the genre, which was established in South Africa, I am deeply concerned about the implications of this error and the potential dissemination of misinformation to readers.
To rectify this issue, I am kindly requesting that the misattribution of the music genre's origin be thoroughly reviewed and corrected to accurately reflect its establishment in South Africa.
Thank you for your immediate attention to this urgent matter.
I will be available to provide further clarification or assistance if needed. EncyclopediaEureka ( talk) 23:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi Wikipedia Administrator
kindly please assist, EncyclopediaEureka ( talk) 23:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Just letting you know as I found it strange, but it's not every day you see an experienced editor adding the full lyrics for a classic rock song to Wikipedia like they're not aware of our policy on copyright or not think that that would be a copyright violation. And moreover, the fact that nobody cared for nearly a whole month until I just removed it, tagged the page for copyvio-revdel, and warned them not to do that. Ss 112 14:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello Sergecross73, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia.
While your contributions are appreciated, I wanted to let you know that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, Jeff Friedl, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Friedl (2nd nomination).
Deletion discussions usually run for seven days and are not votes. Our guide about effectively contributing to such discussions is worth a read. The most common issue in these discussions is notability, but it's not the only aspect that may be discussed; read the nomination and any other comments carefully before you contribute to the discussion. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.
If you have any questions, please leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|Chris troutman}}
. And don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~
. Thanks!
(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)
Chris Troutman ( talk) 16:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)