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[s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.
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Hi again! I’m not sure how familiar you are with album/single certifications but on Ready to Die — Billboard published an article with its sales but RIAA updated the albums cert 2 months after the article was published. What are we supposed to keep in the box? This user reverted it [1] This is the second incident I’ve had with this user in a month. Please step in. I opened a discussion on their talk page. I would greatly appreciate your opinion! Pillowdelight ( talk) 04:35, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Please take a look at my latest source for the article List of Pokémon Anime Characters, I am really confident about this one. Master106 ( talk) 18:10, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Please don't fall for this innocent act, he's tried it before. Returning to edit a Dierks Bentley album article, and Gucci Mane's discography, which I previously detailed here is far too much of a coincidence for this to be anyone else. Also, BlaccCrab's last edits before being blocked were to Gucci Mane articles... Ss 112 01:34, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Sergecross73:Hello! I recently saw your work with the list of cancelled Sega Saturn games. Nice job! Look, i stopped doing those lists a long time ago but, if you're interested in reworking other canned games list that i worked on such as the Atari Jaguar ( 1), 3DO ( 2), and Atari Lynx ( 3) then go ahead! I have no issues with it (i'm currently more focused rewriting and expanding the Atari Jaguar game articles these days. Also, if you have interest in working on other canned games list for systems like the 32X ( 4) and Virtual Boy ( 5), you can freely use my work that i did too! Have a great day and take care :) Roberth Martinez ( talk) 22:56, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Serge! Was wondering(and this might sound strange) but can you recreate the edits logs/edit history for Vietnam: Black Ops and Godzilla Online? These articles were previously deleted before years ago until I recreated them. I recal BOZ doing this to The War in Heaven (video game) when he was an admin. Timur9008 ( talk) 12:03, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Serge. I've come across the user Friendlyhelper9949 popping up on articles on my watchlist today, uploading extra album covers, in some cases that were already removed several years ago. I've removed most of the extra covers and cited WP:NFCC (most are just different poses of the artists with a different "fancy" background, nothing that can't be explained in prose if it's deemed important) and left a message on the user's talk page, but I feel that anything less than an admin impressing upon them the seriousness of being this cavalier about uploading excessive non-free media won't get them to stop. They uploaded close to 20 alternative covers all in one day. Thanks if you can drop them a line. Ss 112 15:26, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
The Music Barnstar | ||
Put Thanks for helping with making the FIF Album! It helped alot. Babysharkboss2 ( talk) 16:36, 13 September 2023 (UTC) |
Hey Serge not sure if you are aware but someone has finally merged all the Famicom games to the NES games list. Although we are still keeping the Famicom Disk System games list because all console add-ons have their own pages (N64DD, Sega CD, Jaguar CD, etc). So I was wondering if you could start the process right now because you are an admin and we did say we would delete it once it is merged. NakhlaMan ( talk) 03:04, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
I know you've had [some] run-ins with the user above, and it appears as if despite warnings and encouragements to avoid their disruptive editing, they've continued to make the same edits that caused their previous block. Just thought you'd like to know. livelikemusic ( TALK!) 01:37, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
I understand the concerns, and this editor certainly seems to be irritating a number of editors now, but when I block editors, its because there's a solid, established policy, guideline, or consensus against something, and its clear that the editor has been notified of this, and yet still keeps crossing that line. We are at that point with this editor if we're talking about image uploads, 3RR violations, or editing while logged out. But the track list altering stuff? I don't see where they've been notified of a hard policy/guideline/consensus and then gone and broke it anyways.
I'll definitely give them a warning for violating WP:NPA for the first time, and a warning could probably be given to stop tinkering with track lists until there's a consensus on switching htme because there's clear opposition to their changes, but unless there's some other WP:DIFs on other developments, that's all I can justify as things stand right now. Sergecross73 msg me 15:20, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
I have a very strong suspicion that this user, Friendlyhelper9949, is Stickerstar49272 and EmeraldWicket9947. However, the CU data is stall. If someone wants to gather the evidence and do an SPI for behavioral digging, go for it. Please do not request a CU, I've already looked. -- ferret ( talk) 19:11, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Serge. I notice you've come across the editor Diomandz11 as they've made a few Porcupine Tree song articles, but despite my asking them twice several months ago to source genres on articles they create [15] [16] (a month apart), they're still creating articles with unsourced genres on them [17] [18]. They're clearly capable of adding sourced genres [19] [20] but they're just not doing it all the time. Not sure anything more I can say to them will get them to start doing it. Ss 112 13:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Serge. What do you think of moving a category you've just created but accidentally misspelled? I ask because I just did this—I had a brain fart and typed "artists" instead of "albums" in a category name and corrected my mistake, and obviously when you go to move a category, it says "Categories should not be moved without discussion" at WP:CFD etc. Obviously moving years-old and populated categories would need discussion but if I've just created it and clearly misspelled or used the wrong word there's no real need to go through the whole process of filing a request at CFD, right? Maybe in future it might be better if I've misspelt a category name to create the correctly named category rather than move the misspelt one, and tag the misspelt one for speedy deletion? Ss 112 08:59, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar | |
Its my birthday! So, im going around, and giving barnstars out to people on
here thats been kind/and/or encouraging to me! So, you earn this barnstar as a thank you for helping me create the draft for
Until this Shakes apart!! Babysharkboss2 was here!! 15:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC) |
Hey Serge. Jovarca1000000 is a sock of Pjesnik21 making all the same overlink-type edits [21] and updating Croatian and Serbian topics again [22] (as always, they can't stay away from updating List of number-one singles of 2023 (Croatia)—maybe you could protect it so newly registered editors can't edit it? I'll watchlist it though to see if their socks return). Would you be able to block them and revert all their active edits? They also created a redirect for a song, so hopefully you can delete that too. When they registered looks about the last time you blocked one of their socks too. Ss 112 19:58, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Serge. I recently changed the text for the upcoming Peter Gabriel album I/O to be consistent with the capitalisation of the article title (it's been located at the capitalised I/O since two weeks after its creation). It's been written inconsistently in the article text since its creation. Little did I know I was indirectly reverting an editor, RoyLeban, who's been here for quite a number of years but refuses to accept MOS:CAPS and WP:TMRULES and considers Peter Gabriel's lower-case "i/o" the definitive and only acceptable way to render the title, and earlier this month changed the text of the article to be the lower-case i/o without moving the article. Nobody has objected to the article being located at what was previously I/O (Peter Gabriel album) and is now I/O (album) (and this user isn't even objecting to that), and there has been no formal consensus to write its text in all lowercase. Past versions of the page [31] [32] even have it capitalised (as it's an acronym for Input/Output) with the "stylised as i/o" note.
After a discussion on the talk page, the user is now saying they will revert me if I don't revert myself, which I have said I won't do. I have tried and apparently failed to get through the point to this user to start a move request so they can get consensus and gauge the opinion of the Wikipedia community for the page to be the closest it can be to i/o. They refuse to do that, as they are still insisting the article text doesn't need to reflect what the article title shows it as, and are essentially saying they don't need formal consensus. I'm obviously not getting through to this editor. Would you be able to have a word to them and tell them to seek consensus through a move request or an RfC and not edit war (as essentially, my edits were the revert in a WP:BRD cycle?) Thanks. Ss 112 01:52, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 95 | ← | Archive 98 | Archive 99 | Archive 100 | Archive 101 | Archive 102 | → | Archive 105 |
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).
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[s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.
local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to
note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.
Hi again! I’m not sure how familiar you are with album/single certifications but on Ready to Die — Billboard published an article with its sales but RIAA updated the albums cert 2 months after the article was published. What are we supposed to keep in the box? This user reverted it [1] This is the second incident I’ve had with this user in a month. Please step in. I opened a discussion on their talk page. I would greatly appreciate your opinion! Pillowdelight ( talk) 04:35, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Please take a look at my latest source for the article List of Pokémon Anime Characters, I am really confident about this one. Master106 ( talk) 18:10, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Please don't fall for this innocent act, he's tried it before. Returning to edit a Dierks Bentley album article, and Gucci Mane's discography, which I previously detailed here is far too much of a coincidence for this to be anyone else. Also, BlaccCrab's last edits before being blocked were to Gucci Mane articles... Ss 112 01:34, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
@ Sergecross73:Hello! I recently saw your work with the list of cancelled Sega Saturn games. Nice job! Look, i stopped doing those lists a long time ago but, if you're interested in reworking other canned games list that i worked on such as the Atari Jaguar ( 1), 3DO ( 2), and Atari Lynx ( 3) then go ahead! I have no issues with it (i'm currently more focused rewriting and expanding the Atari Jaguar game articles these days. Also, if you have interest in working on other canned games list for systems like the 32X ( 4) and Virtual Boy ( 5), you can freely use my work that i did too! Have a great day and take care :) Roberth Martinez ( talk) 22:56, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Serge! Was wondering(and this might sound strange) but can you recreate the edits logs/edit history for Vietnam: Black Ops and Godzilla Online? These articles were previously deleted before years ago until I recreated them. I recal BOZ doing this to The War in Heaven (video game) when he was an admin. Timur9008 ( talk) 12:03, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Serge. I've come across the user Friendlyhelper9949 popping up on articles on my watchlist today, uploading extra album covers, in some cases that were already removed several years ago. I've removed most of the extra covers and cited WP:NFCC (most are just different poses of the artists with a different "fancy" background, nothing that can't be explained in prose if it's deemed important) and left a message on the user's talk page, but I feel that anything less than an admin impressing upon them the seriousness of being this cavalier about uploading excessive non-free media won't get them to stop. They uploaded close to 20 alternative covers all in one day. Thanks if you can drop them a line. Ss 112 15:26, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
The Music Barnstar | ||
Put Thanks for helping with making the FIF Album! It helped alot. Babysharkboss2 ( talk) 16:36, 13 September 2023 (UTC) |
Hey Serge not sure if you are aware but someone has finally merged all the Famicom games to the NES games list. Although we are still keeping the Famicom Disk System games list because all console add-ons have their own pages (N64DD, Sega CD, Jaguar CD, etc). So I was wondering if you could start the process right now because you are an admin and we did say we would delete it once it is merged. NakhlaMan ( talk) 03:04, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
I know you've had [some] run-ins with the user above, and it appears as if despite warnings and encouragements to avoid their disruptive editing, they've continued to make the same edits that caused their previous block. Just thought you'd like to know. livelikemusic ( TALK!) 01:37, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
I understand the concerns, and this editor certainly seems to be irritating a number of editors now, but when I block editors, its because there's a solid, established policy, guideline, or consensus against something, and its clear that the editor has been notified of this, and yet still keeps crossing that line. We are at that point with this editor if we're talking about image uploads, 3RR violations, or editing while logged out. But the track list altering stuff? I don't see where they've been notified of a hard policy/guideline/consensus and then gone and broke it anyways.
I'll definitely give them a warning for violating WP:NPA for the first time, and a warning could probably be given to stop tinkering with track lists until there's a consensus on switching htme because there's clear opposition to their changes, but unless there's some other WP:DIFs on other developments, that's all I can justify as things stand right now. Sergecross73 msg me 15:20, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
I have a very strong suspicion that this user, Friendlyhelper9949, is Stickerstar49272 and EmeraldWicket9947. However, the CU data is stall. If someone wants to gather the evidence and do an SPI for behavioral digging, go for it. Please do not request a CU, I've already looked. -- ferret ( talk) 19:11, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Hi Serge. I notice you've come across the editor Diomandz11 as they've made a few Porcupine Tree song articles, but despite my asking them twice several months ago to source genres on articles they create [15] [16] (a month apart), they're still creating articles with unsourced genres on them [17] [18]. They're clearly capable of adding sourced genres [19] [20] but they're just not doing it all the time. Not sure anything more I can say to them will get them to start doing it. Ss 112 13:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).
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Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.
Hi Serge. What do you think of moving a category you've just created but accidentally misspelled? I ask because I just did this—I had a brain fart and typed "artists" instead of "albums" in a category name and corrected my mistake, and obviously when you go to move a category, it says "Categories should not be moved without discussion" at WP:CFD etc. Obviously moving years-old and populated categories would need discussion but if I've just created it and clearly misspelled or used the wrong word there's no real need to go through the whole process of filing a request at CFD, right? Maybe in future it might be better if I've misspelt a category name to create the correctly named category rather than move the misspelt one, and tag the misspelt one for speedy deletion? Ss 112 08:59, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar | |
Its my birthday! So, im going around, and giving barnstars out to people on
here thats been kind/and/or encouraging to me! So, you earn this barnstar as a thank you for helping me create the draft for
Until this Shakes apart!! Babysharkboss2 was here!! 15:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC) |
Hey Serge. Jovarca1000000 is a sock of Pjesnik21 making all the same overlink-type edits [21] and updating Croatian and Serbian topics again [22] (as always, they can't stay away from updating List of number-one singles of 2023 (Croatia)—maybe you could protect it so newly registered editors can't edit it? I'll watchlist it though to see if their socks return). Would you be able to block them and revert all their active edits? They also created a redirect for a song, so hopefully you can delete that too. When they registered looks about the last time you blocked one of their socks too. Ss 112 19:58, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Serge. I recently changed the text for the upcoming Peter Gabriel album I/O to be consistent with the capitalisation of the article title (it's been located at the capitalised I/O since two weeks after its creation). It's been written inconsistently in the article text since its creation. Little did I know I was indirectly reverting an editor, RoyLeban, who's been here for quite a number of years but refuses to accept MOS:CAPS and WP:TMRULES and considers Peter Gabriel's lower-case "i/o" the definitive and only acceptable way to render the title, and earlier this month changed the text of the article to be the lower-case i/o without moving the article. Nobody has objected to the article being located at what was previously I/O (Peter Gabriel album) and is now I/O (album) (and this user isn't even objecting to that), and there has been no formal consensus to write its text in all lowercase. Past versions of the page [31] [32] even have it capitalised (as it's an acronym for Input/Output) with the "stylised as i/o" note.
After a discussion on the talk page, the user is now saying they will revert me if I don't revert myself, which I have said I won't do. I have tried and apparently failed to get through the point to this user to start a move request so they can get consensus and gauge the opinion of the Wikipedia community for the page to be the closest it can be to i/o. They refuse to do that, as they are still insisting the article text doesn't need to reflect what the article title shows it as, and are essentially saying they don't need formal consensus. I'm obviously not getting through to this editor. Would you be able to have a word to them and tell them to seek consensus through a move request or an RfC and not edit war (as essentially, my edits were the revert in a WP:BRD cycle?) Thanks. Ss 112 01:52, 21 October 2023 (UTC)