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talk to your inner fish 19:21, 16 September 2019 (UTC).
KillerChihuahua, let me apologize in advance, I'm not well versed in how to make comments on talk pages like this and tag myself and my articles appropriately. I'll do my best. You deleted the page Clint Pulver earlier today, citing G11. It must have gone up shortly before that as a nomination for speedy deletion, but it was certainly "speedily deleted" as I didn't have a chance to look at it before you deleted. So I read through the link you have here on your talk page ("please read this before posting here." and went back over what G11 is. I could really use your advice as I tried to make the article as neutral as possible and used multiple objective citations for nearly every sentence included in the article. I'd love to be able to fix whatever I did wrong and get the article back up. Please advise. Cheers, tbc32 15:44, 16 September 2019
hello! I do not vandalize i revert the vandal in this article see the talk page section location /info/en/?search=Talk:Karaiskakis_Stadium -- Jjik43 ( talk) 14:02, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Ok-- Jjik43 ( talk) 14:24, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Heated discussions are best enjoyed with a heated beverage; you are not at fault (well, except for being wrong about the AIV/spam thing, but this place is an arcane bewildertempest of bureaucracy, and we all get little things like that confused from time to time!) so relax and enjoy a nice cup of tea. (*slides teacup down admin lounge bar like an old-timey cowboy) Yunshui 雲 水 14:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC) |
As I said in that discussion: Here is the thing. I have known a number of editors who started out exactly like this. One issue editors, often spamming with the same link to multiple articles, the "Warrell vandal" comes to mind. Instead of immediately blocking, we kept reaching out to him, explaining NPOV and NOT. He became a valuable contributor. Wikipedia is in decline. The number of editors and admins has dropped precipitously. Biting newbies is a primary reason people don't become contributors. Will I have to indef Harold? Probably. But I'm NOT going to do that first thing. I'm going to at least try to get him to understand and follow policy. I care more about Wikipedia as a whole than I do about smashing newbies with my banhammer just because they're not helpful at first. I understand current terms; you don't need to insult and pretend to explain things to senile old timer me. It isn't necessary nor helpful. I'm not "wrong", thank you so much for your help; I'm just not a fucking asshole who blocks everybody on sight if I think they might be able to learn to be a helpful contributor. Your opinion and approach may vary, that's fine. Just because I don't immediately block all new editors who fuck up, does not mean I'm "wrong" or "confused". Killer Chihuahua 14:54, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
fair block, plenty of AGF. you have been missed. — Ched ( talk) 22:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello - just looking for some additional guidance/feedback regarding the draft article "Incentive Solutions," which you speedily deleted, citing G11 - unambiguous advertising or promotion. I look forward to making the changes in violation of this criteria. Thank you in advance! Leslie Wells ( talk) 19:26, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Just saw your declines on a series of half-baked reports. One one hand, I don't want to be bitey and discourage people from helping fight vandalism, but jeesh, lots of people not following directions. Seems that it's a pretty small of regulars who use the board properly. The other type of report I see very frequently on AIV is "vandals" who are making small tweaks on articles pertaining to (1) wrestling (2) cartoons (3) TV/radio stations, being tagged as "disruptive." Not being well-versed in any of those topics, it's difficult to tell if it really is disruption or just a content dispute between people who are extremely passionate about those topics. Life is hard. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:11, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Damn, I take a little break, and look who pops out of the woodwork. I gather you got your bit back. It's really good to see you active, again. Now, I need to spend some time in here. - Donald Albury 21:07, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Please do not introduce inappropriate pages, such as Kakooskavin, to Wikipedia. Doing so is considered to be vandalism and is prohibited. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Under section G3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, the page has been nominated for deletion. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Begoon 16:31, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
"Have you ever read WP:BITE? I suggest you might want to do that, to avoid treating newbies with as much callous disregard for courtesy and intentions as you have me."turns out to apply perfectly to you, here, ironically. Have a nice day. -- Begoon 16:55, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
And now I'm "immature"? Look - here's the way I see it: for obscure and unfortunate reasons, that message ended up here. You assumed there had been something active about it and gave me a condescending lecture. I didn't like that so gave you one back. Now I'm very bored with the whole thing, so if it makes you feel better I'm sorry you thought I was rude, but, honestly, you do need to look at how you jumped up and down defensively too - I'll forget all about this in half an hour - not everybody would. -- Begoon 17:19, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure that recent actions merit an ANI report, and I'm hesitant to engage further than I already have here given the recent history. BigDWiki is continuing to make axe-grinding sorts of edits using sources that clearly don't meet WP:RS guidelines; see also here; thankfully someone else has already stepped in to that dispute. Thoughts? OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:29, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Yay! Guettarda ( talk) 14:17, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
So glad you're back! :-) Katie talk 17:54, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
+1 :) Good to see you. Antandrus (talk) 23:02, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
3 days late, happy to see you at ANI. Yngvadottir ( talk) 05:25, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Welcome back! --random anon admin 19:44, 16 September 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.182.252.233 ( talk)
Hi, just wanted to checkin with you on the deletion of my recreation of Instana. Did you read my objection against the speedy deletion? As I pointed out the deletion vote 9 months ago was not unanimous. There were several votes to keep it. Also the page content has been significantly extended. Thirdly the expanded contents, as well as the inherent notability should at least have a regular discussion for deletion. Lastly, locking a page which was recreated after 9 months is not really appropriate, right? FabianLange ( talk) 14:12, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
thank you for waiting. Ok, the articles ARE mostly identical. The new version has the following added:
None of this establishes the company's notability. The original article was rejected twice at AFC, then created anyway, then deleted due to not meeting notability. The rest of the article is identical to the deleted version, and the added text is advertising, basically. So yes, this is the same problem as before, the article has been created three times now (not one) and deleted every time. Killer Chihuahua 15:04, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Instana. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. FabianLange ( talk) 17:13, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi there, just a question as I've not seen it clearly stated - are user sandboxes CSD-able under U5? I get that sandboxes are for testing, and I've come across sandboxes that look like drafts for legitimate things, and others that look like adverts. What's typically the best course of action or a place to report these? - D7a894f1d ( talk) 19:12, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello KillerChihuahua, it looks the IP 100.19.65.89 removed my previous 4im NPA warning and continued with the general personal attacks. -- LuK3 (Talk) 19:08, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
I saw your question. Fram's claim that he has left me alone? Incorrect. He has needled me enough to let me know I am on his Nixonian list. The most recent, prior to [1] was [2] Geo Swan should have been banned from BLPs years and years ago. This one was far from the worst (borderline speedy, but I certainly would have voted for deletion at AfD anyway). Things like User:Geo Swan/Fa‘iz al-Shanbari (from 2009) or User:Geo Swan/Hesham Mohamed Hussain and User:Geo Swan/Mohammed Quayyum Khan (from 2012) should not remain in userspace indefinitely, and have no chance of becoming articles anyway, so a major cleanup of Geo Swan's userspace seems necessary.
In the fall of 2010 Fram and I had had very little interaction. He left what looked like a good faith suggestion I consider deleting some userspace pages. That is how I treated it. I spent a long time looking at. Hours? All morning, all afternoon, all day? I can't remember now. But I looked at every page he listed, and tried to figure out what triggered his concern.
Spending hours assuming good faith on Fram's part turned to have been a horrible mistake. Here is the frankly unforgiveable edit summary from his reply: Congratulations, you have just ruined your chance at any further cooperation.
Fram wasn't joking. He soon proceeded to return to my contributions, and nominate userspace pages, and articles, at a far greater pace than anyone could reasonably be expected to respond to. This first intense focus on me lasted for months. At least half a dozen of his fellow administrators warned him that his focus on me gave the strong appearance of malice.
Fram blew them all off.
It seemed to me, at the time, that if Fram had not been an administrator, and he ignored just a couple of administrator warnings, he would have found himself issued a 24, 48, or 72 hour block. And if, after that block, he had returned to giving the appearance of a focus triggered by malice, he would have been issued longer and longer blocks, right up to indefinite.
If Fram returns to being an administrator, will he be an "unblockable" again?
Finally, can I ask you to email me a deleted file? Could you email me the former contents of User:Geo Swan/Eyad Alrababah? It is the page the other administrator deleted, and then asked for Fram's support, when I asked him to email it to me.
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geo Swan ( talk • contribs) 17:12, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm no friend of Fram, but in this case I agree: this wasn't the first time that I found Geo Swan's BLPs to be falling short. Thanks, Drmies ( talk) 21:39, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Could you take a look at the activities of Awikivisitor20122018 ( talk · contribs) with regard to creating nonsense redirects? I’ve been nominating them for CSD (thanks for the help there). S/he’s not taking the hints [3] [4]. Toddst1 ( talk) 16:20, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
I thought I would give you a heads up that Geo_Swan hasn't dropped the Fram obsession: User_talk:Geo_Swan/BLPs_started_2011-02_to_2012-08 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.112.220 ( talk) 00:09, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi. Any idea how to nominate more than one category for deletion? Ruwaym is trying to nationalize every pre-modern figure, as seen here [5]. I did try to look it up at this [6] but it's so horribly written. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 13:52, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello, KillerChihuahua,
In the future, if you come across an empty category, please just tag with a CSD C1 tag, do not delete it. Then, empty categories sit for 7 days in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion. If, after a week, the category is still empty, then it is deleted. If it is no longer empty after 7 days, then the tag is removed.
This is the process now because it gives category creators time, after creating a category, to find appropriate pages for it. Also, sometimes categories are emptied out-of-process and this week gives other editors time to discover what the issue is and recategorize articles. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 16:48, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi KC, I noticed you put the unblock request at User_talk:HaroldDunlop on hold a little under two weeks ago. It looks like discussion died off around the 19th. Are you still considering unblocking? SQL Query me! 02:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Hi KillerChihuahua. You recently deleted a page that I created Clint Pulver. Is it possible to get that page put onto the talk page or onto my sandbox? I got some good feedback on the Articles for Deletion page and would like to improve the article and resubmit. - tbc32 ( talk) 014:13, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi KillerChihuahua, I noticed the recent discussion you were involved in on Cahk’s talk page. He’s right: those accounts are spambots, and they’re eligible for blocks with TPA revoked with no warning. It’s just a script that runs to spam links, not a human being, so warnings don’t do anything. If we decline to block here, someone can just go over to m:SRG and they’d be globally blocked on request. Not a criticism of you since many AIV patrolling admins don’t recognize them, but I did want to reach out about it for the future . TonyBallioni ( talk) 16:12, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Otherwise thanks for your feedback. No, I don't refer to "those people". No, I don't demonise others with who I do not agree. Think that you will find that it is probably furthest from the truth. Nice attempt to blame shift away from your chastising a user who identified a spambot and just wanted it blocked before it edited again.
And, no, I see no intelligent rationale for why you are ignoring the policy that is aimed at real users, the warning policy is not aimed at spambots. The rationalist within me would think that implicitly or explicitly that was reasonably obvious. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:24, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi! <br>My name is Clarissa and I'm a 20 years old girl from Berrambool.<br><br>Feel free to surf to my site :: [fxer.org/category/finance-news/ fxer.org]
"/"Hi! <br>My name is Rosie and I'm a 23 years old boy from Vennington.<br><br>my blog :: [www.gentech.fr/sliminazer-avis/ sliminazer bewertung]
"/"I'm Karine (18) from Tafolwern, Great Britain. <br>I'm learning Russian literature at a local high school and I'm just about to graduate.<br>I have a part time job in a university.<br><br>My web site cryptocompare api documentation ([cointrack.net/en/cryptocurrency-widgets cointrack.net/en/cryptocurrency-widgets])
"/"My name is Ruth and I am studying Japanese Studies and Greek and Roman Culture at Reykholt / Iceland.<br><br>My webpage [sites.google.com/view/zetawhtcream/ Zeta White Cream]
" .. do you see how these are
WP:DUCK-level sockpuppets of each other (especially the first two, where the first one is the one you mentioned and the second one a couple of days before, note the '::' and the 'Hi! <br>My name is <name> and I'm a ## old <boy/girl> from <place><br>&l;br>'?)Spambots are already volunteer killers and timeholes, and when fellow administrators want people to jump through more hoops for what we see as blindingly obvious, it is utterly frustrating.
This isn't about KC's own interactions with spambots that they discover, it is the expectations and interactions when they are responding at WP:AIV or on their user pages and telling other volunteers how they need to handle obvious spambots. It is also about deafness and blindness to current practice, and an expectation that at those places they can impose a practice that has been left behind, and imposing their interpretation of a policy that is not supported by the majority of the community. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:57, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you all for the measured responses. I can relate to seeing some changes over time. Some things change in practice, even if we've learned that we don't have to codify every dot for every t with regards to policy and guidelines. I know that malware, spam, bots, etc have all become much more sophisticated over time; it's a vicious circle of virus vs anti-virus issue. I also have a great deal of empathy for someone who has 4, 5, 6 people showing up to find fault with something on their user page, especially if the posts get increasingly harsh. That's rough no matter who you are. Thanks again for letting me have my say. (I can't speak to the IRC issues, I gave that up years ago) — Ched ( talk) 05:10, 22 October 2019 (UTC) Oh, and thank you Dirk for the excellent examples. — Ched ( talk) 05:16, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
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KillerChihuahua, let me apologize in advance, I'm not well versed in how to make comments on talk pages like this and tag myself and my articles appropriately. I'll do my best. You deleted the page Clint Pulver earlier today, citing G11. It must have gone up shortly before that as a nomination for speedy deletion, but it was certainly "speedily deleted" as I didn't have a chance to look at it before you deleted. So I read through the link you have here on your talk page ("please read this before posting here." and went back over what G11 is. I could really use your advice as I tried to make the article as neutral as possible and used multiple objective citations for nearly every sentence included in the article. I'd love to be able to fix whatever I did wrong and get the article back up. Please advise. Cheers, tbc32 15:44, 16 September 2019
hello! I do not vandalize i revert the vandal in this article see the talk page section location /info/en/?search=Talk:Karaiskakis_Stadium -- Jjik43 ( talk) 14:02, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Ok-- Jjik43 ( talk) 14:24, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Heated discussions are best enjoyed with a heated beverage; you are not at fault (well, except for being wrong about the AIV/spam thing, but this place is an arcane bewildertempest of bureaucracy, and we all get little things like that confused from time to time!) so relax and enjoy a nice cup of tea. (*slides teacup down admin lounge bar like an old-timey cowboy) Yunshui 雲 水 14:49, 18 September 2019 (UTC) |
As I said in that discussion: Here is the thing. I have known a number of editors who started out exactly like this. One issue editors, often spamming with the same link to multiple articles, the "Warrell vandal" comes to mind. Instead of immediately blocking, we kept reaching out to him, explaining NPOV and NOT. He became a valuable contributor. Wikipedia is in decline. The number of editors and admins has dropped precipitously. Biting newbies is a primary reason people don't become contributors. Will I have to indef Harold? Probably. But I'm NOT going to do that first thing. I'm going to at least try to get him to understand and follow policy. I care more about Wikipedia as a whole than I do about smashing newbies with my banhammer just because they're not helpful at first. I understand current terms; you don't need to insult and pretend to explain things to senile old timer me. It isn't necessary nor helpful. I'm not "wrong", thank you so much for your help; I'm just not a fucking asshole who blocks everybody on sight if I think they might be able to learn to be a helpful contributor. Your opinion and approach may vary, that's fine. Just because I don't immediately block all new editors who fuck up, does not mean I'm "wrong" or "confused". Killer Chihuahua 14:54, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
fair block, plenty of AGF. you have been missed. — Ched ( talk) 22:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello - just looking for some additional guidance/feedback regarding the draft article "Incentive Solutions," which you speedily deleted, citing G11 - unambiguous advertising or promotion. I look forward to making the changes in violation of this criteria. Thank you in advance! Leslie Wells ( talk) 19:26, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Just saw your declines on a series of half-baked reports. One one hand, I don't want to be bitey and discourage people from helping fight vandalism, but jeesh, lots of people not following directions. Seems that it's a pretty small of regulars who use the board properly. The other type of report I see very frequently on AIV is "vandals" who are making small tweaks on articles pertaining to (1) wrestling (2) cartoons (3) TV/radio stations, being tagged as "disruptive." Not being well-versed in any of those topics, it's difficult to tell if it really is disruption or just a content dispute between people who are extremely passionate about those topics. Life is hard. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:11, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Damn, I take a little break, and look who pops out of the woodwork. I gather you got your bit back. It's really good to see you active, again. Now, I need to spend some time in here. - Donald Albury 21:07, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Please do not introduce inappropriate pages, such as Kakooskavin, to Wikipedia. Doing so is considered to be vandalism and is prohibited. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Under section G3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, the page has been nominated for deletion. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Begoon 16:31, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
"Have you ever read WP:BITE? I suggest you might want to do that, to avoid treating newbies with as much callous disregard for courtesy and intentions as you have me."turns out to apply perfectly to you, here, ironically. Have a nice day. -- Begoon 16:55, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
And now I'm "immature"? Look - here's the way I see it: for obscure and unfortunate reasons, that message ended up here. You assumed there had been something active about it and gave me a condescending lecture. I didn't like that so gave you one back. Now I'm very bored with the whole thing, so if it makes you feel better I'm sorry you thought I was rude, but, honestly, you do need to look at how you jumped up and down defensively too - I'll forget all about this in half an hour - not everybody would. -- Begoon 17:19, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure that recent actions merit an ANI report, and I'm hesitant to engage further than I already have here given the recent history. BigDWiki is continuing to make axe-grinding sorts of edits using sources that clearly don't meet WP:RS guidelines; see also here; thankfully someone else has already stepped in to that dispute. Thoughts? OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:29, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Yay! Guettarda ( talk) 14:17, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
So glad you're back! :-) Katie talk 17:54, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
+1 :) Good to see you. Antandrus (talk) 23:02, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
3 days late, happy to see you at ANI. Yngvadottir ( talk) 05:25, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Welcome back! --random anon admin 19:44, 16 September 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.182.252.233 ( talk)
Hi, just wanted to checkin with you on the deletion of my recreation of Instana. Did you read my objection against the speedy deletion? As I pointed out the deletion vote 9 months ago was not unanimous. There were several votes to keep it. Also the page content has been significantly extended. Thirdly the expanded contents, as well as the inherent notability should at least have a regular discussion for deletion. Lastly, locking a page which was recreated after 9 months is not really appropriate, right? FabianLange ( talk) 14:12, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
thank you for waiting. Ok, the articles ARE mostly identical. The new version has the following added:
None of this establishes the company's notability. The original article was rejected twice at AFC, then created anyway, then deleted due to not meeting notability. The rest of the article is identical to the deleted version, and the added text is advertising, basically. So yes, this is the same problem as before, the article has been created three times now (not one) and deleted every time. Killer Chihuahua 15:04, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Instana. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. FabianLange ( talk) 17:13, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi there, just a question as I've not seen it clearly stated - are user sandboxes CSD-able under U5? I get that sandboxes are for testing, and I've come across sandboxes that look like drafts for legitimate things, and others that look like adverts. What's typically the best course of action or a place to report these? - D7a894f1d ( talk) 19:12, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello KillerChihuahua, it looks the IP 100.19.65.89 removed my previous 4im NPA warning and continued with the general personal attacks. -- LuK3 (Talk) 19:08, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
I saw your question. Fram's claim that he has left me alone? Incorrect. He has needled me enough to let me know I am on his Nixonian list. The most recent, prior to [1] was [2] Geo Swan should have been banned from BLPs years and years ago. This one was far from the worst (borderline speedy, but I certainly would have voted for deletion at AfD anyway). Things like User:Geo Swan/Fa‘iz al-Shanbari (from 2009) or User:Geo Swan/Hesham Mohamed Hussain and User:Geo Swan/Mohammed Quayyum Khan (from 2012) should not remain in userspace indefinitely, and have no chance of becoming articles anyway, so a major cleanup of Geo Swan's userspace seems necessary.
In the fall of 2010 Fram and I had had very little interaction. He left what looked like a good faith suggestion I consider deleting some userspace pages. That is how I treated it. I spent a long time looking at. Hours? All morning, all afternoon, all day? I can't remember now. But I looked at every page he listed, and tried to figure out what triggered his concern.
Spending hours assuming good faith on Fram's part turned to have been a horrible mistake. Here is the frankly unforgiveable edit summary from his reply: Congratulations, you have just ruined your chance at any further cooperation.
Fram wasn't joking. He soon proceeded to return to my contributions, and nominate userspace pages, and articles, at a far greater pace than anyone could reasonably be expected to respond to. This first intense focus on me lasted for months. At least half a dozen of his fellow administrators warned him that his focus on me gave the strong appearance of malice.
Fram blew them all off.
It seemed to me, at the time, that if Fram had not been an administrator, and he ignored just a couple of administrator warnings, he would have found himself issued a 24, 48, or 72 hour block. And if, after that block, he had returned to giving the appearance of a focus triggered by malice, he would have been issued longer and longer blocks, right up to indefinite.
If Fram returns to being an administrator, will he be an "unblockable" again?
Finally, can I ask you to email me a deleted file? Could you email me the former contents of User:Geo Swan/Eyad Alrababah? It is the page the other administrator deleted, and then asked for Fram's support, when I asked him to email it to me.
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geo Swan ( talk • contribs) 17:12, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm no friend of Fram, but in this case I agree: this wasn't the first time that I found Geo Swan's BLPs to be falling short. Thanks, Drmies ( talk) 21:39, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Could you take a look at the activities of Awikivisitor20122018 ( talk · contribs) with regard to creating nonsense redirects? I’ve been nominating them for CSD (thanks for the help there). S/he’s not taking the hints [3] [4]. Toddst1 ( talk) 16:20, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
I thought I would give you a heads up that Geo_Swan hasn't dropped the Fram obsession: User_talk:Geo_Swan/BLPs_started_2011-02_to_2012-08 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.112.220 ( talk) 00:09, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi. Any idea how to nominate more than one category for deletion? Ruwaym is trying to nationalize every pre-modern figure, as seen here [5]. I did try to look it up at this [6] but it's so horribly written. -- HistoryofIran ( talk) 13:52, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello, KillerChihuahua,
In the future, if you come across an empty category, please just tag with a CSD C1 tag, do not delete it. Then, empty categories sit for 7 days in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion. If, after a week, the category is still empty, then it is deleted. If it is no longer empty after 7 days, then the tag is removed.
This is the process now because it gives category creators time, after creating a category, to find appropriate pages for it. Also, sometimes categories are emptied out-of-process and this week gives other editors time to discover what the issue is and recategorize articles. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 16:48, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi KC, I noticed you put the unblock request at User_talk:HaroldDunlop on hold a little under two weeks ago. It looks like discussion died off around the 19th. Are you still considering unblocking? SQL Query me! 02:25, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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Hi KillerChihuahua. You recently deleted a page that I created Clint Pulver. Is it possible to get that page put onto the talk page or onto my sandbox? I got some good feedback on the Articles for Deletion page and would like to improve the article and resubmit. - tbc32 ( talk) 014:13, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi KillerChihuahua, I noticed the recent discussion you were involved in on Cahk’s talk page. He’s right: those accounts are spambots, and they’re eligible for blocks with TPA revoked with no warning. It’s just a script that runs to spam links, not a human being, so warnings don’t do anything. If we decline to block here, someone can just go over to m:SRG and they’d be globally blocked on request. Not a criticism of you since many AIV patrolling admins don’t recognize them, but I did want to reach out about it for the future . TonyBallioni ( talk) 16:12, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Otherwise thanks for your feedback. No, I don't refer to "those people". No, I don't demonise others with who I do not agree. Think that you will find that it is probably furthest from the truth. Nice attempt to blame shift away from your chastising a user who identified a spambot and just wanted it blocked before it edited again.
And, no, I see no intelligent rationale for why you are ignoring the policy that is aimed at real users, the warning policy is not aimed at spambots. The rationalist within me would think that implicitly or explicitly that was reasonably obvious. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:24, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi! <br>My name is Clarissa and I'm a 20 years old girl from Berrambool.<br><br>Feel free to surf to my site :: [fxer.org/category/finance-news/ fxer.org]
"/"Hi! <br>My name is Rosie and I'm a 23 years old boy from Vennington.<br><br>my blog :: [www.gentech.fr/sliminazer-avis/ sliminazer bewertung]
"/"I'm Karine (18) from Tafolwern, Great Britain. <br>I'm learning Russian literature at a local high school and I'm just about to graduate.<br>I have a part time job in a university.<br><br>My web site cryptocompare api documentation ([cointrack.net/en/cryptocurrency-widgets cointrack.net/en/cryptocurrency-widgets])
"/"My name is Ruth and I am studying Japanese Studies and Greek and Roman Culture at Reykholt / Iceland.<br><br>My webpage [sites.google.com/view/zetawhtcream/ Zeta White Cream]
" .. do you see how these are
WP:DUCK-level sockpuppets of each other (especially the first two, where the first one is the one you mentioned and the second one a couple of days before, note the '::' and the 'Hi! <br>My name is <name> and I'm a ## old <boy/girl> from <place><br>&l;br>'?)Spambots are already volunteer killers and timeholes, and when fellow administrators want people to jump through more hoops for what we see as blindingly obvious, it is utterly frustrating.
This isn't about KC's own interactions with spambots that they discover, it is the expectations and interactions when they are responding at WP:AIV or on their user pages and telling other volunteers how they need to handle obvious spambots. It is also about deafness and blindness to current practice, and an expectation that at those places they can impose a practice that has been left behind, and imposing their interpretation of a policy that is not supported by the majority of the community. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:57, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you all for the measured responses. I can relate to seeing some changes over time. Some things change in practice, even if we've learned that we don't have to codify every dot for every t with regards to policy and guidelines. I know that malware, spam, bots, etc have all become much more sophisticated over time; it's a vicious circle of virus vs anti-virus issue. I also have a great deal of empathy for someone who has 4, 5, 6 people showing up to find fault with something on their user page, especially if the posts get increasingly harsh. That's rough no matter who you are. Thanks again for letting me have my say. (I can't speak to the IRC issues, I gave that up years ago) — Ched ( talk) 05:10, 22 October 2019 (UTC) Oh, and thank you Dirk for the excellent examples. — Ched ( talk) 05:16, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
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