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Hello @ HistoryofIran, Recently, a second phase of War Articles has been initiated by our new Indian users. Could you please take a look at them, specifically including topics such as the Shunga-Greek War, Gupta conquests of Bengal, and Mauryan Khotan Colonization.
The most notable issue I've encountered, which is not a brand new article, is an ongoing edit war with an Indian user. It revolves around the conflict between the Iranic Scythians, also known as Sakas, and the Satavahanas, in which the Sakas/Scythians emerged victorious. However, the Indian user keeps reverting my edits repeatedly. The article in question is titled "Saka-Satavahana Wars." DeepstoneV ( talk) 09:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
1. Melechha created a wikitable in "
Ahom-Mughal conflicts,"
[1] and Jonharojjashi promptly modified it
[2] .
2. Aryan and Melechha (Editor Pandit is his socked acc) engaged in edit warring for improving a wikitable in "
Maratha–Portuguese War (1683–1684),
[3]" with Jonharojjashi making the similar edits shortly after in favour of them
[4]
[5].
3. Similar occurrences were observed in "
Luso–Maratha War (1729–1732)," where Melechha created a wikitable
[6], and Jonharojjashi either restored or modified it
[7]. Additionally, when Melechha moved the page to a different title
[8], Jonharojjashi followed suit
[9]. Notably, this marked Jonharojjashi's third edit on the article.
4. The pattern repeated in the "
Dogra–Tibetan War," with Melechha creating a wikitable
[10] and Jonharojjashi subsequently editing it. This marked as the fourth article Jonharojjashi edited.
[11].
5. Daayush (a confirmed sock), Jonharojjashi, and an IP user collaborated on editing "
Kanishka" for a common purpose.
[12]
[13]
6. Jonharojjashi and Msangharak (a sock of Melechha) collaborated on editing "
Kanishka's war with Parthia."
[14].
7. Indo12122 (a confirmed sock user) and Jonharojjashi engaged in reverting each other's edits on "
Muslim conquests in the Indian subcontinent."
I noticed several other accounts during the revision checks, some of which were added in earlier SPI checks. But, I didn't include them as they are not significant leads.
Imperial
[AFCND] 04:50, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi, how are you?
I noticed you reverted my change in the Cambyses II article. I added what I thought was true that the rebellion was started by either Gaumata or Bardiya. You said that the my source (Encyclopedia Britannica) was not so good (which I admit I don't really know what qualifies as a good source) and that the story wasn't necessarily even true and you referred me to the article about Darius and his rise to power.
I read that part of the article, and what it appeared to me was that what I got wrong was that the rebellion wasn't started by either Gaumata or Bardiya but rather the people were rebelling on their own and then unified under Gaumata or Bardiya. Was there more that you wanted me to see in the Darius article and was there something else I was incorrect about? Because it would be a simple switch to say that a rebellion started and united under Gaumata or Bardiya rather than the way I put it which made it sound like they started the rebellion.
In addition, I heard this story on Hardcore History as well by Dan Carlin but I assume that that isn't considered a good source for Wikipedia. PotatoKugel ( talk) 18:25, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, colleague. I half cleaned the article Talish (region) from the flood of low-quality sources or information without sources. I will continue to do this. But I would like to ask you to watch this little part - Talish_(region)#Middle_Ages. Could you suggest sources for the third and fourth sentences there? Everything else (starting with Revolt of 1629, I will look through it myself, since the sources there, if they are, are in Russian). With respect, colleague. Smpad ( talk) 21:15, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
سلام. ببخشید فارسی می نویسم. انگلیسی م به قدرت شما نیست. امکانش هست مقاله اران در ویکی فارسی را با ترجمه دانشنامه اسلام ویرایش دوم (نوشته ریچارد فرای) و ویرایش سوم (نوشته الیسون واکا) و هم چنین ویرایش اول (نوشته بارتولد) و همچنین ترجمه دانشنامه ایرانیکا (نوشته کلیفورد ادموند باسورث) تکمیل کنید تا دهان پان ترک ها بسته شود ؟ الان مقاله فقط با دائرة المعارف بزرگ اسلامی سر پا مونده است. با تشکر Onusread ( talk) 07:00, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
برادر سلمون علیکم. در صفحه چوواش دروغ ها و اطلاعات بی اساس زیادی وجود دارد. پاناتورکس آن را اضافه کرد. آیا می توانید به بررسی و حذف دروغ ها کمک کنید؟
Chuvash people 2A02:FF0:3316:8F74:8DDF:2A42:58F:B5AF ( talk) 15:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Can you review [20] (Scythian vs. Scytho-Siberian) and [21] (representing Ferdowsi and Shahnameh as historical facts)? @ Kansas Bear, LouisAragon, and Wikaviani: You might be interested too. -- Mann Mann ( talk) 16:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, colleague. Can I ask your opinion for Talk:Forced assimilation in Azerbaijan#Merge proposal?
I created Forced assimilation in Azerbaijan article, so now I plan to reduce Talysh people#In the Soviet Union. With respect, Smpad ( talk) 20:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Where is the voluntariness on the part of these peoples here?
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Hey HistoryofIran, I saw your edit on this article and wondered if you had any more information concerning this event? I posted some information on the article talk page, but 2 of the sources are generalized and non-specialized. I would appreciate your opinion on the matter. Thanks! -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 19:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Orontes I you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Relativity -- Relativity ( talk) 19:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello @ HistoryofIran, once again a great pleasure to be talking to you and hope you're doing well. I was recently looking to make some improvements about Nader Shah's religious policy and couldn't help but notice that a section about his crown (the Kolah I Naderi) cites Axworthy as a source to state that the 4 peak's of the crown symbolised the first 4 Caliphs. However on page 76 of "Sword of Persia", Axworthy says that some "believe that the four points of Nader's version had a religious meaning, but it seems more likely that...they signified the four corners of the territories he aimed to conquer", do you think this can be added as an alternative interpretation about the meaning behind the crown? Looking forward for your thoughts, thanks! Salman Cooper Mapping ( talk) 08:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
First and foremost, sorry for mistakenly talking in the wrong place, didn’t intend. Anyway, please take back the revision, because the source I add was just echoing the previous one. Also I found your criticism about the “naming” very simple. The ethnonym Bulgar was never an umbrella term like Scythian, or Tartar. Please consider this. BulgarChanyu ( talk) 20:28, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi @ HistoryofIran, hope all is well with you. I recently made some changes to the page Hushang. I wonder if there are any suggestions you can make for improvement. I noticed that a lot of the articles on figures from Iranian mythology are very "Shahnameh-centric" and haven't been touched for years, so there's a lot of room for improvement there. Revolution Saga ( talk) 20:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
From what little I could find, it[Koyulhisar] appears to have been 3 sieges.
It may be better to move Battle of Koyulhisar (1461) to a draft under the name: Siege of Koyulhisar (1461). Thoughts? --
Kansas Bear (
talk) 00:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi. I'm goting to complete the article of Zayn al-Din Taybadi and I can't find any English sources. As you seem to have access to the EI I need your help if you could send me some pdfs on this subject. He was one of the main mystics of the 14th century whose life and deeds has not been dealt with very much. Thanks in advance. Bbadree ( talk) 14:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Rabia was an Arab woman, I don't know why there is a claim that she was from a non-Arab descent. She was called bint Ka'b aka: the daughter of Ka'b, which is, كعب, an Arab name. She was called Zain Al-Arab, which indicates her Arab lineage. Ibnismail2222 ( talk) 15:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello bro, I wanted to say that if you can, take a look at Bogazicili edits in the turkic peoples article, he has done a lot of vandalism, even removing the maps that helps the lot of readers in the article!
Even if you have more time better check all recently works of this person Twg7s7h ( talk) 15:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Userpage | Talk page | Awards | Articles | Sources |
This is HistoryofIran's talk page, where you can send them messages and comments. |
|
Hello @ HistoryofIran, Recently, a second phase of War Articles has been initiated by our new Indian users. Could you please take a look at them, specifically including topics such as the Shunga-Greek War, Gupta conquests of Bengal, and Mauryan Khotan Colonization.
The most notable issue I've encountered, which is not a brand new article, is an ongoing edit war with an Indian user. It revolves around the conflict between the Iranic Scythians, also known as Sakas, and the Satavahanas, in which the Sakas/Scythians emerged victorious. However, the Indian user keeps reverting my edits repeatedly. The article in question is titled "Saka-Satavahana Wars." DeepstoneV ( talk) 09:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
1. Melechha created a wikitable in "
Ahom-Mughal conflicts,"
[1] and Jonharojjashi promptly modified it
[2] .
2. Aryan and Melechha (Editor Pandit is his socked acc) engaged in edit warring for improving a wikitable in "
Maratha–Portuguese War (1683–1684),
[3]" with Jonharojjashi making the similar edits shortly after in favour of them
[4]
[5].
3. Similar occurrences were observed in "
Luso–Maratha War (1729–1732)," where Melechha created a wikitable
[6], and Jonharojjashi either restored or modified it
[7]. Additionally, when Melechha moved the page to a different title
[8], Jonharojjashi followed suit
[9]. Notably, this marked Jonharojjashi's third edit on the article.
4. The pattern repeated in the "
Dogra–Tibetan War," with Melechha creating a wikitable
[10] and Jonharojjashi subsequently editing it. This marked as the fourth article Jonharojjashi edited.
[11].
5. Daayush (a confirmed sock), Jonharojjashi, and an IP user collaborated on editing "
Kanishka" for a common purpose.
[12]
[13]
6. Jonharojjashi and Msangharak (a sock of Melechha) collaborated on editing "
Kanishka's war with Parthia."
[14].
7. Indo12122 (a confirmed sock user) and Jonharojjashi engaged in reverting each other's edits on "
Muslim conquests in the Indian subcontinent."
I noticed several other accounts during the revision checks, some of which were added in earlier SPI checks. But, I didn't include them as they are not significant leads.
Imperial
[AFCND] 04:50, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi, how are you?
I noticed you reverted my change in the Cambyses II article. I added what I thought was true that the rebellion was started by either Gaumata or Bardiya. You said that the my source (Encyclopedia Britannica) was not so good (which I admit I don't really know what qualifies as a good source) and that the story wasn't necessarily even true and you referred me to the article about Darius and his rise to power.
I read that part of the article, and what it appeared to me was that what I got wrong was that the rebellion wasn't started by either Gaumata or Bardiya but rather the people were rebelling on their own and then unified under Gaumata or Bardiya. Was there more that you wanted me to see in the Darius article and was there something else I was incorrect about? Because it would be a simple switch to say that a rebellion started and united under Gaumata or Bardiya rather than the way I put it which made it sound like they started the rebellion.
In addition, I heard this story on Hardcore History as well by Dan Carlin but I assume that that isn't considered a good source for Wikipedia. PotatoKugel ( talk) 18:25, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, colleague. I half cleaned the article Talish (region) from the flood of low-quality sources or information without sources. I will continue to do this. But I would like to ask you to watch this little part - Talish_(region)#Middle_Ages. Could you suggest sources for the third and fourth sentences there? Everything else (starting with Revolt of 1629, I will look through it myself, since the sources there, if they are, are in Russian). With respect, colleague. Smpad ( talk) 21:15, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
سلام. ببخشید فارسی می نویسم. انگلیسی م به قدرت شما نیست. امکانش هست مقاله اران در ویکی فارسی را با ترجمه دانشنامه اسلام ویرایش دوم (نوشته ریچارد فرای) و ویرایش سوم (نوشته الیسون واکا) و هم چنین ویرایش اول (نوشته بارتولد) و همچنین ترجمه دانشنامه ایرانیکا (نوشته کلیفورد ادموند باسورث) تکمیل کنید تا دهان پان ترک ها بسته شود ؟ الان مقاله فقط با دائرة المعارف بزرگ اسلامی سر پا مونده است. با تشکر Onusread ( talk) 07:00, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
برادر سلمون علیکم. در صفحه چوواش دروغ ها و اطلاعات بی اساس زیادی وجود دارد. پاناتورکس آن را اضافه کرد. آیا می توانید به بررسی و حذف دروغ ها کمک کنید؟
Chuvash people 2A02:FF0:3316:8F74:8DDF:2A42:58F:B5AF ( talk) 15:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Can you review [20] (Scythian vs. Scytho-Siberian) and [21] (representing Ferdowsi and Shahnameh as historical facts)? @ Kansas Bear, LouisAragon, and Wikaviani: You might be interested too. -- Mann Mann ( talk) 16:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello, colleague. Can I ask your opinion for Talk:Forced assimilation in Azerbaijan#Merge proposal?
I created Forced assimilation in Azerbaijan article, so now I plan to reduce Talysh people#In the Soviet Union. With respect, Smpad ( talk) 20:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Where is the voluntariness on the part of these peoples here?
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
I was given this Barnstar by TheEagle107 but I decided you also deserve this barnstar for your outstanding efforts in defending vulnerable articles and combating against vandalism on Wikipedia. We appreciate you as a member of this community and this Barnstar is well deserved! Ayaltimo ( talk) 07:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC) |
Hey HistoryofIran, I saw your edit on this article and wondered if you had any more information concerning this event? I posted some information on the article talk page, but 2 of the sources are generalized and non-specialized. I would appreciate your opinion on the matter. Thanks! -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 19:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Orontes I you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Relativity -- Relativity ( talk) 19:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello @ HistoryofIran, once again a great pleasure to be talking to you and hope you're doing well. I was recently looking to make some improvements about Nader Shah's religious policy and couldn't help but notice that a section about his crown (the Kolah I Naderi) cites Axworthy as a source to state that the 4 peak's of the crown symbolised the first 4 Caliphs. However on page 76 of "Sword of Persia", Axworthy says that some "believe that the four points of Nader's version had a religious meaning, but it seems more likely that...they signified the four corners of the territories he aimed to conquer", do you think this can be added as an alternative interpretation about the meaning behind the crown? Looking forward for your thoughts, thanks! Salman Cooper Mapping ( talk) 08:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
First and foremost, sorry for mistakenly talking in the wrong place, didn’t intend. Anyway, please take back the revision, because the source I add was just echoing the previous one. Also I found your criticism about the “naming” very simple. The ethnonym Bulgar was never an umbrella term like Scythian, or Tartar. Please consider this. BulgarChanyu ( talk) 20:28, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi @ HistoryofIran, hope all is well with you. I recently made some changes to the page Hushang. I wonder if there are any suggestions you can make for improvement. I noticed that a lot of the articles on figures from Iranian mythology are very "Shahnameh-centric" and haven't been touched for years, so there's a lot of room for improvement there. Revolution Saga ( talk) 20:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
From what little I could find, it[Koyulhisar] appears to have been 3 sieges.
It may be better to move Battle of Koyulhisar (1461) to a draft under the name: Siege of Koyulhisar (1461). Thoughts? --
Kansas Bear (
talk) 00:18, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi. I'm goting to complete the article of Zayn al-Din Taybadi and I can't find any English sources. As you seem to have access to the EI I need your help if you could send me some pdfs on this subject. He was one of the main mystics of the 14th century whose life and deeds has not been dealt with very much. Thanks in advance. Bbadree ( talk) 14:08, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Rabia was an Arab woman, I don't know why there is a claim that she was from a non-Arab descent. She was called bint Ka'b aka: the daughter of Ka'b, which is, كعب, an Arab name. She was called Zain Al-Arab, which indicates her Arab lineage. Ibnismail2222 ( talk) 15:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello bro, I wanted to say that if you can, take a look at Bogazicili edits in the turkic peoples article, he has done a lot of vandalism, even removing the maps that helps the lot of readers in the article!
Even if you have more time better check all recently works of this person Twg7s7h ( talk) 15:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC)