Thank you! Full support! -- Chris 73 | Talk 06:29, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Full Support here as well! /me bows to Dmcdevit :) -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 12:39, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Full support from me too. technically, admins should block for 1 month at most, but unless people object, this is a full-fledged "community ban". dab (ᛏ) 14:16, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I am afraid some admins may evolve to use the long block periods more and more often — this will no doubt happen, necessarily. Wikipedia is among the top 20 sites of the internet now, and we simply cannot afford to prat around with every problem user as we used to (five warnings, and then increasing blocks from five minutes up to three hours). This is not about power (peer review between admins works very well), simply about efficiency: as soon as it is clear a user is here for other reasons than collaborating in writing an encyclopedia, they should be blocked to protect good faith users. dab (ᛏ) 08:05, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
There was a misunderstanding on my part that the 'evidence' should not be listed until the case was "opened" and a link to a page for evidence was given. Please let me know if this matter is still open, or if not.... if it will need to be resubmitted. I have now included said evidence on the complaint. Thank you Sarastro777 20:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I have talked to you on irc. Unfortunately, much of content on historia de Venezuela has copyright violation. If you are interrested in Latin America and have a lot of time, you can translate part of [:es:Historia_de_Chile] which is longer than the English article. Moreover, the article is a "featured article" on es:. -- Youssef 18:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
According to the history, you were the arbitrator who proposed Probation for all major move warriors on the proposed decision page. PHenry recently pointed out to me that as it stands, Freakofnurture is not being put under probation. Was this intentional, or was it merely an oversight?
If it was intentional, what is your reasoning? (Freakofnurture is included in the related finding of fact.)
If it was an oversight, can it please be corrected? -- Northenglish ( talk) -- 20:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm very wary of the "making/accepting" arbitrary decisions proposed decision. Much trouble ahead based upon people citing this, I forsee. Can you comment further? I don't see the talk thread getting much love. - brenneman {L} 02:40, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
You asked me if I'd missed closing this, last night, and I was quite surprised to see how long it had been left and I promised to do it today. However looking at it again today I see that it's still stalemated. You have four votes to close but one opposing close, making only three net votes to close. If another arbitrator votes to close, or else James F withdraws his objection, I will close the case. -- Tony Sidaway 12:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Per the Arbitration policy, I request that you provide a rationale for your vote of "Reject" in the UCRGrad RfA request. Thanks! -- ElKevbo 13:26, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
If it's not too much trouble I would appreciate a reply to the email I sent this morning. I would also like you to forward a brief note from me to the ArbCom mailing list. David | Talk 21:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Hiya, in regards recent events with Piotrus, have you been following the discussion at " Wikipedia talk:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-06-07 Polish Cabal and myself as its leader" ? If not, I would be interested in your opinion, thanks. -- Elonka 06:24, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey man, I see you have an Einstein quote on your page, "As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.", I've not heard this one before, but I heard a similar one by John Archibald Wheeler, "We live on an island surrounded by a sea of ignorance. As our island of knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance." — and they were contemporaries too I think. There isn't any real purpose to this message, just found it interesting. - FrancisTyers · 09:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd very much appreciate a reply to my comments above. Please note, that my prososed additions will probably never make it into Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy if you ban me from this article. Raphael1 14:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
If you take a look at the talk page of Russian architecture and its archives, you may understand that every expedient at discussion has been tried, but talking with AndriyK, though tried by dozens various users, invariably proved futile. He will listen to you more or less politely and will not concede a point. Therefore this silly tag disfigures the article for half a year now. Yet I do not care about it as long as sock puppets like this one do not remove my own counter-tag. -- Ghirla -трёп- 19:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi! Got involved with the heirarchial reorganization of maps on the commons a few weeks back, and as we worked into categories where names matched here, images here (mainly historical maps) that should be moved to the commons crossed my path. Subsequently, I've traded some emails with BOT wizard User:AllyUnion, to see if it was feasible to have things moved automatically. Now I find You begining this Category:Move_to_Wikimedia_Commons category. So the question occurs: How is this being implimented? There is no talk page and only a brief note on purpose, all of which are rather buried by the long See Also section. There is no reference of a self-tagging template that automatically adds the category.
I'm given to understand that image moves have been mainly manual, as in time consumptive and inefficient of man-hours expenditures. (Offensive to a computer engineer like me, who can see the images 'mirrored-to-here' from the commons! <g>) So is this just a way to tag those which need someone to manually move, or is there something automatic involved (Like the BOT that runs when a category is tagged with {{ category redirect}}? Please clue me in! Thanks // Fra nkB 21:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this category is resolved by manually moving the images, reuploading them to commons and and then listing the replaced ones on Wikipedia for deletion. The category is populated by tagging pages with {{ Move to Wikimedia Commons}}. It would be great if you could assist in clearing out the category (or can devise a bot), as it currently has a large backlog. Particularly, all the image galleries that are tagged there mean that there are really a lot more there than it looks like. Dmcdevit· t 04:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Why don't you take part in this RfC - as an admin ocassionally involved to Eastern Europe affairs? The user in question is one of the most important and controversial editors in the region. Thanks, Ukrained 22:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Would you please add an article ban on Islamophobia for User:Karl_Meier to Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Irishpunktom/Proposed_decision. An editor who put this link on his user page and never apologized for it and is still "editing" on Islamophobia does not help the project at all. Indeed he just started again to strip down the article. [7] [8] Obviously he does not even consider an attack on a mosque islamophobic. Raphael1 20:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your message on my talk page. I do my best to resolve the dispute on Russian architecture. I propsed mediation, but the opposite party refused. Now they try to remove or change the dispute tag pretending that there is no dispute. Please have a look at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Irpen.
Thanks.-- AndriyK 21:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your support on my recent RfA, which I'm quite happy to announce has passed with a consensus of 67 supporting, 0 opposed and 0 neutral. I'm glad you took the time to consider my candidacy, and I'll be working hard to justify the vote of confidence you've placed in me, especially with those transwiki tasks. Let me know at my talk page if you have any comments on my performance as an admin. Thanks! TheProject 23:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that you really chowed down on that category yesterday ;). I just finished script that I put in [[User:Voice of All/Specialadmin/monobook.js] that makes it easy to compare the licenses and delete images form the cat page. Though you have to enable "signed.applets.codebase_principal_support" in about:config if you have firefox/NS, and do somthing else for IE :). Voice-of-All 00:10, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to ask you to examine this request for checkuser, which is currently pending. Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Iloveminun You examined and completed a prior request against the same user somewhat recently, so I'm contacting you. Currently it may have signifigance, if the request is valid enough to warrent the user of checkuser, for Iloveminun's arbcom case, which is in evidence. Note that I'm not asking you neccessarily to use the checkuser tool, if it is not warrented, mearly that you examine the request. Kevin_b_er 09:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Please note that User:Ghirlandajo provokes a new edit war by removing the OR and POV tags. Please suggest how this situation can be resolved.-- AndriyK 09:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Please have a look at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Resolving_content_disputes. Please help me to find the answer to my questions. Thanks.-- AndriyK 14:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
In relation to the 7th point in my arbcom case (remove this if I'm acting out of hand), you use this to maintain that I am uncivil, frequently make assumptions of bad faith such as refer to other editors as racists and bigots for opposition to my edits. I just think that edit is unfair, as it comes right after Zeno of Elea refered to me as a "Ramadan-crazed narcasistic fundamentalist" a "Muslim fundamentalist", referred to islam as a "horrid religion", Muhammad as a "deranged rapist psychopath". My reply, referring to Zeno as a Bigot was not about his editing of articles in "opposition to [my] edits", rather because those statements I have listed appeared like Bigotry to me. -- Irishpunktom\ talk 17:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
You chose to accept the case of abritration, but what is the scope of this arbitration, only the article Sathya Sai Baba, or category:Sathya Sai Baba or category:Sathya Sai Baba plus user:Andries? I would like to know because I want to know what I should comment on. I prefer that the arbitration deals with Sathya Sai Baba and closely related articles contained in category:Sathya Sai Baba Thanks. Andries 11:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Deletion of properly inserted dispute tags does damage the integrity of the encyclopedia because it hinder resolving POV disputes. Having deleted the tag, the supporter of POV-version of the article do not care about dispute resolution, they ignore WP:DR, refuse mediation etc. The reader remains uninformed that article is biased. It is not a surprise, that deletion of properly inserted dispute tags is forbidden by the policy.
Any edit war always has two sides (one cannot be edit warring with oneself ;) ). This does not mean that both sides are always equelly guilty. Therefore, unbiased and good faithed admin always checks the role of each users in the edit war. Reverting unexplained edits or edits with offensive edit summaries is, in most cases, usefull activity. While offensive edit summaries, removing properly inserted tags, etc. is a violation of the Policies and has to be prevented or punished.
It is difficult to assume a good faith towards the admin, who blocked one of the users and ignored incivility and violation of the Policies by the other ones. It could happen once by mistake. But if it happens second time with an experienced admin and ArbCom member, after the situation was explained by e-mail and on the talk page, it makes me think that the admin abuses his power to support his friends or the users with similar POVs. I would be glad if you convince me that I am mistaking. Thanks.-- AndriyK 17:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
AndriyK, this is a well-known tactic frequently used in football: trying to shame the referee who in all fairness is harsh towards the violator to be harsh too (even if unfairly) towards an opponent. It sometimes works and causes even unjustified penalty kicks ordered by a referee in fear of being called unfair in order to show even-handedness.
Your entire activity in Wikipedia is a huge disruption and you are getting the exact treatment you are asking for. Your disputed tags were placed improperly in contravention to sources cited earlier at the article's talk pages or in the articles themselves. Your unwarranted tag-trolling and revert warring is but the only activity taken at Wikipedia since your month ban by ArbCom for other dirty tricks. You loaded the talk pages of a whole lot of people with baseless accusations and uninterrupted pestering for already answered questions. Your Wikilawyering and unwarranted appeals to the Policy pages where you also gain no support are yet as disruptive.
If you continue this tactic you will find yourself frequently blocked and experienced admins will be able to see who is acting in bad faith here. My hope is that you will simply change your ways and seize disruptive activities for now limited to tag-trolling, revert-warring, wikilawyering, content removal, attacking your opponents and unsuccessful attempts to recruit the supporters for your crusade. If you don't, you have no one but yourself to blame for not being able to edit. -- Irpen 19:31, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
As a arbiter in Wikipedia I hope you will read the words of the Palestinian writer Hanina here: [11]especially the part about History which is where Wikipedia takes part. Best Zeq 10:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I added Ulster Project to your desk because it involves politics and social issues (program involving 'the troubles' in Ireland). Please look at it and either accept or let me knwo and I'll reassign it. Thank you. RJFJR 03:21, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Since I know your on-line will you deal with this user. He is trolling at User:Vitriouxc and removing his name from WP:AIV. Could you at least semi-protect User:Vitriouxc (a indefblocked editors userpage) so he cannot edit it. — The King of Kings 08:19 July 09 '06
Thank you Dmcdevit. This user's relentless libel had practically driven me from Wikipedia. If ArbCom hears the case, his sympathizer Bishonen will likely use it as an excuse to unblock him to respond to the case, allowing his attacks to continue. Please don't forget about his other username, User:Amibidhrohi. Timothy Usher 09:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Is your email system not working or have you not checked your mail today? Irishpunktom and myself have agreed a full resolution of any dispute which may previously have existed between us, so the arbitration is now moot, superseded, obsoleted, etc. etc. Please confirm you understand this. David | Talk 23:32, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I see you've been deleting A LOT of images, soo many that it's filling up the recent changes page!-- Andeh 08:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
On 2006-07-01 you deleted Image:Human_Feces.jpg because someone previously moved it to the commons. Unfortunately I had added a lot of descriptive information on the english wikipedia page that wasn't there when it was moved and thus subsequently lost. Is there any way you know of to get that descriptive text back, or do I have to write it all over again? I would appreciate it if you could drop me a line and let me know. Thanks, Cacetudo 14:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Why did you revert the changes made for Image:Nuclear weapon programs worldwide.png and deleted them? Please let me know. CG 18:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Isn't Remedy 2.1 more of an enforcement clause? It should be worded more as a remedy, and 2.1 as written could be moved to the enforcement section. Ral315 ( talk) 21:31, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Greetings:
The log shows that you deleted Image:Railway swing bridge.jpg. There is no justification stated on the page. As this is a useful and important image I am requesting more information. Thanks, Leonard G. 15:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I know how much you dislike edit wars. Could you please warn User:Irpen, User:Telex and User:Grafikm_fr? They remove the dispute tag while there is OR and NPOV dispute about Ukrainization and provoke edit war there. Thank you in advance.-- Mbuk 21:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I've been surprised by Irpen's recent lack of response in our dispute at Ukrainization's talk, only to realize that he's been blocked for edit-warring at the very article. While I respect your administrator's discretion, as Irpen's opponent in the dispute, I'd like to voice my opinion that the block was inappropriate, unnecessary or even harmful. A warning to all the involved parties would probably be more useful and less disruptive. I know that Irpen is sometimes quick to revert (I am too) but he is also open for discussion. This said, I have to admit that I've not appreciated the edit war on the tags on the article going on in the background of the dispute. However, I doubt if blocking editors will help to solve this problem. What the article badly needs is a good mediation, and that is what Elonka in my understanding attempted to do there. I was going to request the help of an experienced mediator if the edit-war on tags persisted after our disputes with Irpen had been settled (or failed). All that's achieved now with the block, is that the dispute has to wait until it expires. I understand that Irpen has not been blocked because of our collaborative edits, but because of the past revert-warring on the tags, still I believe the timing of the block was inappropriate. If he deserved to be blocked, it should have happened earlier, not in the middle of a potentially productive dispute. I do not doubt your good intentions but still I suggest that you consider unblocking. -- Lysy talk 07:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I did take the block lightly even though I disagree that it was appropriate as I explained in detail at my talk. I was also surprized that the user:Mbuk whose contribution to the entire project is non-existing, save disruptions, and whose provocative behavior, wikilawyering and, particularly, the bad-faith report above largely caused this whole mess and blocks of several contributing editors got away with just a warning (despite he edit warred rabidly and was warned not to do so in the past) while editors who were actually working on the solution found themselves blocked and the article progress was thus interrupted. I do think that Dmcdevit tried to do help the best he could and since the blocks expired, the issue of those particular blocks is now moot. The more global issue on the actions in similar situation is a separate one and it is addressed below. -- Irpen 00:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Dmcdevit, I am still a bit puzzled about your recent blocks over Ukrainization, and I have a question regarding myself. I understand you are taking a strict stance on edit-warring, which is okay (and I've seen you inspiring shock and awe on edit-warriors at Arbcom.) But with the standards you seem to be applying, I have the feeling even I could find myself on the wrong end of them some day. So, here's a genuine question: what would you recommend me to do?
I tend to follow this rule: In an emerging dispute, I revert once with a reason in the edit summary. If that doesn't stick, I revert a second time with a detailed reasoning on talkpage. If that doesn't stick, I usually don't revert again but ask for other people's opinions or help. That may result in a third opinion on talk, leading to further consensus-building in the best case. Or it may result in those people choosing to join in reverting. I don't ask them to do that, though. But conversely, I am willing to do the same kind of "helping-out" reverts in other articles, if I'm confident that the other side is acting obstinately and disruptively and has not been responding adequately to rational talk-page discussion. There are such cases.
In practice, look at what happened at, for instance Souliotes between 20 June and 4 July. I ended up doing some 10 or 11 reverts within two weeks, scratching 3RR once. I was dealing with a guy who insisted on including an OR paragraph even while admitting it was OR. I think I removed it some five or six times. Another guy was adding and removing "fact" tags arbitrarily on the whim of which statements suited his POV and which didn't. Both were making personal attacks. I discussed extensively both on article talk and personal talk pages. I offered to go for an article RfC. But in the end, only reverting helped.
So, am I a revert-warrior in your book? Honestly, what would you suggest I do in such a situation? Don't tell me "follow dispute resolution" - I know what dispute resolution is. Article RfCs hardly ever get response these days; mediation has big backlogs and moreover requires much higher levels of mutual cooperation and rationality on both sides of a debate. Both can be great in some cases, but if all disputes of the above type and size went to either of these two avenues, the place would be utterly swamped. Informal "ask a trusted friend to join the discussion" is often much more efficient. And don't tell me "edit warring never improves a conflict, but always makes it worse". It's simply not true, in my experience. Sad as it is: some people are prepared to edit obstinately against policy and/or consensus, and cannot be reached by rational discussion. It's sometimes simply necessary to tag-team revert them in a demonstration of consensus, until they themselves reach 3RR. They understand no other language. Ugly, but in the case above that's what actually got the article pacified in the end. -- Your inveterate, unrepentant revert-warrior, Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
A comment to the note by the Future Perfect and Alex. I also thoroughly support admins reigning in and throwing blocks per their judgement to alleviate the overload of the ArbCom with obvious cases but under one condition: admins should take it upon themselves to thoroughly investigate the issue every time they dare to administer justice by their unilateral decisions. In cases, like the ones suggested by Alex or Future it would be easy for an admin to take the legitimate editor for an edit warrior unless the admin takes enough time to diligently study the matter. If an admin does not have time for that, he should leave it to the admins who are less busy at the moment. The emotional aggravation of the legitimate editor to be hit by an unfair block is too huge to risk it. In the
note I posted at WP:AN shortly before this accident (what an amazing coincidence!) I offered one clue on how to see whether one needs to be even more thorough than normally. If the suspect is an established editor, with a reputation he likely cherishes and the empty or short block log, then what looks like edit warring may actually turn out to be something else, like
WP:BRD or simply fending the troll off. As such, if the examples presented by Future and Alex the issue is looked at properly, there would not be any action against the editor who is developing the article.
This is all fine and dandy to cite WP:DR but it sounds patronizing and also offensive to the users who know it well and routinely follow it. When I remove someone's nonsense addition to the article and in response receive a {{ blank}} at my talk, I would see it as a bad faith aggravating gesture. So looks the reminder of WP:DR to the editors who resolved hundreds of disagreements with their opponents in the past.
When dealing with a sock, abusive vandal or a bad-faith troll the demand to follow WP:DR just makes no sense. As such, it is useful to look and compare the involved editor's overall backgrounds to get some initial clues. Demanding to file RfCs and ArbCom every time a new troll or an extremist appears just makes no sense. We would be all writing RfCs and ArbCom submissions if we followed it. AndriyK's case is a more grievous than most, and here, I was wrong not to have addressed to the ArbCom yet.
The bottom-line is the same. If the editor is at fault, it is ok to punish him, irrespective of his past contributions. However, the due effort to determine the actual fault is required. If this is impossible, ArbCom is lesser of an evil than the editors offended by the unjustified block.
Look at it this way: this is the same discretion thing as for admins to block per their own judgement when there is no technical 3RR. The editors also can make a good-faith judgement on how to deal with particular situation and, when acting reasonably, should not be penalized for that, similar to an Admin throwing a non-3RR judgement block, should not automatically be grilled at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct#Use of administrator privileges. -- Irpen 00:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
For those of you who supported my RfA, I highly appreciate your kind words and your trust in me. For those who opposed - many of you expressed valid concerns regarding my activity here; I will make an effort in addressing them as time goes on while at the same time using my admin tools appropriately. So, salamat, gracias, merci, ありがとう, спасибо, धन्यवाद, 多謝, agyamanak unay, شكرًا, cảm ơn, 감사합니다, mahalo, ขอบคุณครับ, go raibh maith agat, dziękuję, ευχαριστώ, Danke, תודה, mulţumesc, გმადლობთ, etc.! If you need any help, feel free to contact me.
PS: I took the company car (pictured left) out for a spin, and well... it's not quite how I pictured it. -- Chris S. 23:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)Please take a look at the case as I am told you had preformed the previous checkuser -- Cat out 07:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello Dominic/Archive13, and thank you for your support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with an overwhelming final count of (105/2/0). I was very pleased with the outpouring of kind words from the community that has now entrusted me with these tools, from the classroom, the lesson in human psychology and the international resource known as Wikipedia. The Free Encyclopedia. Please feel free to leave me plenty of requests, monitor my actions (through the admin desk on my userpage) and, if you find yourself in the mood, listen to some of what I do in real life. In any case, keep up the great work and have a fabulous day. Grand master ka 06:35, 16 July 2006 (UTC) |
"I did not 'attempt' to post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. I did post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. All but one of them is still there. I merely waited until [ Rook wave ], [ Phr ] and Louis Blair were not looking and reposted them. I added a new biography yesterday and no I am not going to tell you where it is for fear that they will vandalize it again." - Sam Sloan (samhsloan@gmail.com, NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255, 11 Jul 2006 05:23:13 -0700) http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f010?hl=en
"My Biography of Dimitrije Bjelica" - Sam Sloan (sloan@ishipress.com, NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255, Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:09:34 GMT) http://groups.google.com/group/samsloan/msg/eefc91bb2aeda9d0?hl=en http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrije_Bjelica - Louis Blair (July 19, 2006)
Hi there. I realize there's nothing to stop you from randomly blocking AOL IPs, but could you at least set a slightly higher threshold for week long blocks, 1 edit from a vandal + a 1 week block = vastly more collateral damage than stopping power-- 205.188.116.138 13:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you using {{ Sockpuppetproven}} for puppets blocked via checkuser results; I used to do that, but eventually got tired of typing in "checkuser results" as a summary, and instead created {{sockpuppetcheckuser|Puppeteer}}. Feel free to use that if you want, it shows up as:
Hope you find it useful! Essjay (Talk) 21:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello, please help with a case about alleged adminship abuse by JzG, which had been rejected by three arbitrators before an administrator warned the accused one and undid part of his actions. The conflict is going on and I do not know how to find a solution. The only arbitrator who has sinced voted on the case is one who in my eyes is in a conflict of interest as he did a very similar block on me in the past that I think was abusive and that was undone by Theresa as it lacked any evidence of wrongdoing by me. I had suggested a change to the blocking policy but the discussion about it has up to now been inconclusive due to a lack of participants. Socafan 02:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Great duck, but where is his towel? ;P H ig hway Return to Oz... 18:48, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, who was the autor of this picture : http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Image%3AOstia-Toilets.JPG ? Kelson 18:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I know you have voted on the matter of Coolcaesar, but right after you voted, his destructive and malicious behavior began again, even after an ingenuine apology that you thought was legitamite. Perhaps you might want to reconsider your vote, as is clear by the edit that if an Arb Case does not make him change his ways, nothing will, and this IS indeed the apppropriate step. -- 69.238.56.207 19:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
You write:
Oh, I think our disagreement is much more fundamental than being about "what the situation calls for". Firstly, I consider that your decision to reject everything I've done without a word to me to say that you had done so, or to explain why, lacks even basic common courtesy. This note was the first time you have said this, although it was four weeks ago that I sent you the statement.
As for this "proposed remedy", it's not, it's a "finding of fact". It's a fact which I have found to be true. Nothing which has appeared on that page has in any sense been taken account of by any arbitrator. Nothing at all. I really can't understand your obstinacy on this point. Whatever you think you are doing, it is not arbitration. I've offered to negotiate and suggested alternative ways of handling any problem to which proposed decision no. 1 is designed to address (which my voluntary agreement with Irishpunktom has in any case rendered impossible). Nothing has happened. No response. It has been the very opposite of the responsive process it should have been. If I sound bitter about it, then you are not getting an inaccurate impression.
I must ask for an explanation of your remark "Strangely, considering your behaviour so far I am not surprised." This is either a personal attack or something much worse. Perhaps you should bear in mind that old French proverb "Cet animal est très méchant: quand on l'attaque, il se défend". For the uninitiated, the point being made is that the second statement being true is not a reason to believe the first statement is true. David | Talk 21:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
It is hardly unreasonable to take offence at an offensive statement, even one by implication. However I accept your sincerity and good faith are not in question: it is by now quite obvious that you had none to start with. I am not lecturing you on how arbitration works so much as telling you that what you are doing is not arbitration, and it hasn't worked. I don't know what it is you think you're doing. It certainly isn't in the best interests of Wikipedia, and please don't kid yourself that is. David | Talk 11:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey Dmc. I responded to the topic you brought up. My response is a bit long, so I won't reproduce it here. But thanks for bringing up the topic.....I'm guessing this issue is bothering other people too. I hope I helped clear up some things for you. The ikiroid ( talk· desk· Advise me) 22:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Since it was you who blocked Molobo and brought some measure of peace to the Eastern European segment of this project, I think you might be interested to check the latest developments. There appeared 83.5.xxx.xxx, which operates from Warsaw, making usually one edit from one address. He surveys my watchlist on a regular basis and targets my contributions relentlessly. We suspect him to be Molobo, but our request to investigate was rejected on WP:RCU. Revelling in his impunity, the guy went to WP:AN and WP:ANI where he posted a slanderous message "Administrator user:Alex Bakharev and his semi-protection spree". This guy, while making no useful or constructive edits, distracts my attention from creating new content. Besides, I don't like being stalked. Could you advise what I should do? -- Ghirla -трёп- 13:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Based on this, it appears that it is a user evading a block.
Best, Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 14:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
This is not Molobo. See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Administrator_user:Alex_Bakharev__and_his_semi-protection_spree, especially the latter links, for evidence.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 19:25, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I've simply been rather busy at work, which should be much reduced next week. Thanks, Matthew Brown (Morven) ( T: C) 21:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I ask that you kindly reconsider your vote for user:coolcaesar and change it to accept the case. After he made his apologies on the arbitration page, he has gone on to offend two more Wikipedians in just 3 days. I know that there has not been alot done previously, and mediation as well as dozens of notices to him were the actions that were taken. But, after he apologized to the ArbCom, he continued again to do this. It shows that even a pending ArbCom case is not enough to change his actions. I kindly ask that you reconsider your vote for he flat out lied, and that comes after all the horrible personal attacks he committed. I posted the links on the Arbitration Case that relates to him. I would appreciate it. Thank You. -- 69.227.160.83 00:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I have noticed that on the "proposed decisions" of the RfArb against Eternal Equinox, you have voted to support the "Taunting by Giano" FoF using the same comment that you used to used to oppose other "Taunting by Foo" FoFs. Is this deliberate? -- David Mestel( Talk) 17:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you! Full support! -- Chris 73 | Talk 06:29, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Full Support here as well! /me bows to Dmcdevit :) -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 12:39, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Full support from me too. technically, admins should block for 1 month at most, but unless people object, this is a full-fledged "community ban". dab (ᛏ) 14:16, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I am afraid some admins may evolve to use the long block periods more and more often — this will no doubt happen, necessarily. Wikipedia is among the top 20 sites of the internet now, and we simply cannot afford to prat around with every problem user as we used to (five warnings, and then increasing blocks from five minutes up to three hours). This is not about power (peer review between admins works very well), simply about efficiency: as soon as it is clear a user is here for other reasons than collaborating in writing an encyclopedia, they should be blocked to protect good faith users. dab (ᛏ) 08:05, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
There was a misunderstanding on my part that the 'evidence' should not be listed until the case was "opened" and a link to a page for evidence was given. Please let me know if this matter is still open, or if not.... if it will need to be resubmitted. I have now included said evidence on the complaint. Thank you Sarastro777 20:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I have talked to you on irc. Unfortunately, much of content on historia de Venezuela has copyright violation. If you are interrested in Latin America and have a lot of time, you can translate part of [:es:Historia_de_Chile] which is longer than the English article. Moreover, the article is a "featured article" on es:. -- Youssef 18:10, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
According to the history, you were the arbitrator who proposed Probation for all major move warriors on the proposed decision page. PHenry recently pointed out to me that as it stands, Freakofnurture is not being put under probation. Was this intentional, or was it merely an oversight?
If it was intentional, what is your reasoning? (Freakofnurture is included in the related finding of fact.)
If it was an oversight, can it please be corrected? -- Northenglish ( talk) -- 20:46, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm very wary of the "making/accepting" arbitrary decisions proposed decision. Much trouble ahead based upon people citing this, I forsee. Can you comment further? I don't see the talk thread getting much love. - brenneman {L} 02:40, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
You asked me if I'd missed closing this, last night, and I was quite surprised to see how long it had been left and I promised to do it today. However looking at it again today I see that it's still stalemated. You have four votes to close but one opposing close, making only three net votes to close. If another arbitrator votes to close, or else James F withdraws his objection, I will close the case. -- Tony Sidaway 12:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Per the Arbitration policy, I request that you provide a rationale for your vote of "Reject" in the UCRGrad RfA request. Thanks! -- ElKevbo 13:26, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
If it's not too much trouble I would appreciate a reply to the email I sent this morning. I would also like you to forward a brief note from me to the ArbCom mailing list. David | Talk 21:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Hiya, in regards recent events with Piotrus, have you been following the discussion at " Wikipedia talk:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-06-07 Polish Cabal and myself as its leader" ? If not, I would be interested in your opinion, thanks. -- Elonka 06:24, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey man, I see you have an Einstein quote on your page, "As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it.", I've not heard this one before, but I heard a similar one by John Archibald Wheeler, "We live on an island surrounded by a sea of ignorance. As our island of knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance." — and they were contemporaries too I think. There isn't any real purpose to this message, just found it interesting. - FrancisTyers · 09:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd very much appreciate a reply to my comments above. Please note, that my prososed additions will probably never make it into Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy if you ban me from this article. Raphael1 14:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
If you take a look at the talk page of Russian architecture and its archives, you may understand that every expedient at discussion has been tried, but talking with AndriyK, though tried by dozens various users, invariably proved futile. He will listen to you more or less politely and will not concede a point. Therefore this silly tag disfigures the article for half a year now. Yet I do not care about it as long as sock puppets like this one do not remove my own counter-tag. -- Ghirla -трёп- 19:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi! Got involved with the heirarchial reorganization of maps on the commons a few weeks back, and as we worked into categories where names matched here, images here (mainly historical maps) that should be moved to the commons crossed my path. Subsequently, I've traded some emails with BOT wizard User:AllyUnion, to see if it was feasible to have things moved automatically. Now I find You begining this Category:Move_to_Wikimedia_Commons category. So the question occurs: How is this being implimented? There is no talk page and only a brief note on purpose, all of which are rather buried by the long See Also section. There is no reference of a self-tagging template that automatically adds the category.
I'm given to understand that image moves have been mainly manual, as in time consumptive and inefficient of man-hours expenditures. (Offensive to a computer engineer like me, who can see the images 'mirrored-to-here' from the commons! <g>) So is this just a way to tag those which need someone to manually move, or is there something automatic involved (Like the BOT that runs when a category is tagged with {{ category redirect}}? Please clue me in! Thanks // Fra nkB 21:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this category is resolved by manually moving the images, reuploading them to commons and and then listing the replaced ones on Wikipedia for deletion. The category is populated by tagging pages with {{ Move to Wikimedia Commons}}. It would be great if you could assist in clearing out the category (or can devise a bot), as it currently has a large backlog. Particularly, all the image galleries that are tagged there mean that there are really a lot more there than it looks like. Dmcdevit· t 04:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Why don't you take part in this RfC - as an admin ocassionally involved to Eastern Europe affairs? The user in question is one of the most important and controversial editors in the region. Thanks, Ukrained 22:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Would you please add an article ban on Islamophobia for User:Karl_Meier to Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Irishpunktom/Proposed_decision. An editor who put this link on his user page and never apologized for it and is still "editing" on Islamophobia does not help the project at all. Indeed he just started again to strip down the article. [7] [8] Obviously he does not even consider an attack on a mosque islamophobic. Raphael1 20:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your message on my talk page. I do my best to resolve the dispute on Russian architecture. I propsed mediation, but the opposite party refused. Now they try to remove or change the dispute tag pretending that there is no dispute. Please have a look at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Irpen.
Thanks.-- AndriyK 21:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your support on my recent RfA, which I'm quite happy to announce has passed with a consensus of 67 supporting, 0 opposed and 0 neutral. I'm glad you took the time to consider my candidacy, and I'll be working hard to justify the vote of confidence you've placed in me, especially with those transwiki tasks. Let me know at my talk page if you have any comments on my performance as an admin. Thanks! TheProject 23:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that you really chowed down on that category yesterday ;). I just finished script that I put in [[User:Voice of All/Specialadmin/monobook.js] that makes it easy to compare the licenses and delete images form the cat page. Though you have to enable "signed.applets.codebase_principal_support" in about:config if you have firefox/NS, and do somthing else for IE :). Voice-of-All 00:10, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to ask you to examine this request for checkuser, which is currently pending. Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Iloveminun You examined and completed a prior request against the same user somewhat recently, so I'm contacting you. Currently it may have signifigance, if the request is valid enough to warrent the user of checkuser, for Iloveminun's arbcom case, which is in evidence. Note that I'm not asking you neccessarily to use the checkuser tool, if it is not warrented, mearly that you examine the request. Kevin_b_er 09:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Please note that User:Ghirlandajo provokes a new edit war by removing the OR and POV tags. Please suggest how this situation can be resolved.-- AndriyK 09:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Please have a look at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Resolving_content_disputes. Please help me to find the answer to my questions. Thanks.-- AndriyK 14:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
In relation to the 7th point in my arbcom case (remove this if I'm acting out of hand), you use this to maintain that I am uncivil, frequently make assumptions of bad faith such as refer to other editors as racists and bigots for opposition to my edits. I just think that edit is unfair, as it comes right after Zeno of Elea refered to me as a "Ramadan-crazed narcasistic fundamentalist" a "Muslim fundamentalist", referred to islam as a "horrid religion", Muhammad as a "deranged rapist psychopath". My reply, referring to Zeno as a Bigot was not about his editing of articles in "opposition to [my] edits", rather because those statements I have listed appeared like Bigotry to me. -- Irishpunktom\ talk 17:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
You chose to accept the case of abritration, but what is the scope of this arbitration, only the article Sathya Sai Baba, or category:Sathya Sai Baba or category:Sathya Sai Baba plus user:Andries? I would like to know because I want to know what I should comment on. I prefer that the arbitration deals with Sathya Sai Baba and closely related articles contained in category:Sathya Sai Baba Thanks. Andries 11:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Deletion of properly inserted dispute tags does damage the integrity of the encyclopedia because it hinder resolving POV disputes. Having deleted the tag, the supporter of POV-version of the article do not care about dispute resolution, they ignore WP:DR, refuse mediation etc. The reader remains uninformed that article is biased. It is not a surprise, that deletion of properly inserted dispute tags is forbidden by the policy.
Any edit war always has two sides (one cannot be edit warring with oneself ;) ). This does not mean that both sides are always equelly guilty. Therefore, unbiased and good faithed admin always checks the role of each users in the edit war. Reverting unexplained edits or edits with offensive edit summaries is, in most cases, usefull activity. While offensive edit summaries, removing properly inserted tags, etc. is a violation of the Policies and has to be prevented or punished.
It is difficult to assume a good faith towards the admin, who blocked one of the users and ignored incivility and violation of the Policies by the other ones. It could happen once by mistake. But if it happens second time with an experienced admin and ArbCom member, after the situation was explained by e-mail and on the talk page, it makes me think that the admin abuses his power to support his friends or the users with similar POVs. I would be glad if you convince me that I am mistaking. Thanks.-- AndriyK 17:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
AndriyK, this is a well-known tactic frequently used in football: trying to shame the referee who in all fairness is harsh towards the violator to be harsh too (even if unfairly) towards an opponent. It sometimes works and causes even unjustified penalty kicks ordered by a referee in fear of being called unfair in order to show even-handedness.
Your entire activity in Wikipedia is a huge disruption and you are getting the exact treatment you are asking for. Your disputed tags were placed improperly in contravention to sources cited earlier at the article's talk pages or in the articles themselves. Your unwarranted tag-trolling and revert warring is but the only activity taken at Wikipedia since your month ban by ArbCom for other dirty tricks. You loaded the talk pages of a whole lot of people with baseless accusations and uninterrupted pestering for already answered questions. Your Wikilawyering and unwarranted appeals to the Policy pages where you also gain no support are yet as disruptive.
If you continue this tactic you will find yourself frequently blocked and experienced admins will be able to see who is acting in bad faith here. My hope is that you will simply change your ways and seize disruptive activities for now limited to tag-trolling, revert-warring, wikilawyering, content removal, attacking your opponents and unsuccessful attempts to recruit the supporters for your crusade. If you don't, you have no one but yourself to blame for not being able to edit. -- Irpen 19:31, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
As a arbiter in Wikipedia I hope you will read the words of the Palestinian writer Hanina here: [11]especially the part about History which is where Wikipedia takes part. Best Zeq 10:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I added Ulster Project to your desk because it involves politics and social issues (program involving 'the troubles' in Ireland). Please look at it and either accept or let me knwo and I'll reassign it. Thank you. RJFJR 03:21, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Since I know your on-line will you deal with this user. He is trolling at User:Vitriouxc and removing his name from WP:AIV. Could you at least semi-protect User:Vitriouxc (a indefblocked editors userpage) so he cannot edit it. — The King of Kings 08:19 July 09 '06
Thank you Dmcdevit. This user's relentless libel had practically driven me from Wikipedia. If ArbCom hears the case, his sympathizer Bishonen will likely use it as an excuse to unblock him to respond to the case, allowing his attacks to continue. Please don't forget about his other username, User:Amibidhrohi. Timothy Usher 09:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Is your email system not working or have you not checked your mail today? Irishpunktom and myself have agreed a full resolution of any dispute which may previously have existed between us, so the arbitration is now moot, superseded, obsoleted, etc. etc. Please confirm you understand this. David | Talk 23:32, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I see you've been deleting A LOT of images, soo many that it's filling up the recent changes page!-- Andeh 08:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
On 2006-07-01 you deleted Image:Human_Feces.jpg because someone previously moved it to the commons. Unfortunately I had added a lot of descriptive information on the english wikipedia page that wasn't there when it was moved and thus subsequently lost. Is there any way you know of to get that descriptive text back, or do I have to write it all over again? I would appreciate it if you could drop me a line and let me know. Thanks, Cacetudo 14:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Why did you revert the changes made for Image:Nuclear weapon programs worldwide.png and deleted them? Please let me know. CG 18:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Isn't Remedy 2.1 more of an enforcement clause? It should be worded more as a remedy, and 2.1 as written could be moved to the enforcement section. Ral315 ( talk) 21:31, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Greetings:
The log shows that you deleted Image:Railway swing bridge.jpg. There is no justification stated on the page. As this is a useful and important image I am requesting more information. Thanks, Leonard G. 15:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I know how much you dislike edit wars. Could you please warn User:Irpen, User:Telex and User:Grafikm_fr? They remove the dispute tag while there is OR and NPOV dispute about Ukrainization and provoke edit war there. Thank you in advance.-- Mbuk 21:32, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I've been surprised by Irpen's recent lack of response in our dispute at Ukrainization's talk, only to realize that he's been blocked for edit-warring at the very article. While I respect your administrator's discretion, as Irpen's opponent in the dispute, I'd like to voice my opinion that the block was inappropriate, unnecessary or even harmful. A warning to all the involved parties would probably be more useful and less disruptive. I know that Irpen is sometimes quick to revert (I am too) but he is also open for discussion. This said, I have to admit that I've not appreciated the edit war on the tags on the article going on in the background of the dispute. However, I doubt if blocking editors will help to solve this problem. What the article badly needs is a good mediation, and that is what Elonka in my understanding attempted to do there. I was going to request the help of an experienced mediator if the edit-war on tags persisted after our disputes with Irpen had been settled (or failed). All that's achieved now with the block, is that the dispute has to wait until it expires. I understand that Irpen has not been blocked because of our collaborative edits, but because of the past revert-warring on the tags, still I believe the timing of the block was inappropriate. If he deserved to be blocked, it should have happened earlier, not in the middle of a potentially productive dispute. I do not doubt your good intentions but still I suggest that you consider unblocking. -- Lysy talk 07:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I did take the block lightly even though I disagree that it was appropriate as I explained in detail at my talk. I was also surprized that the user:Mbuk whose contribution to the entire project is non-existing, save disruptions, and whose provocative behavior, wikilawyering and, particularly, the bad-faith report above largely caused this whole mess and blocks of several contributing editors got away with just a warning (despite he edit warred rabidly and was warned not to do so in the past) while editors who were actually working on the solution found themselves blocked and the article progress was thus interrupted. I do think that Dmcdevit tried to do help the best he could and since the blocks expired, the issue of those particular blocks is now moot. The more global issue on the actions in similar situation is a separate one and it is addressed below. -- Irpen 00:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Dmcdevit, I am still a bit puzzled about your recent blocks over Ukrainization, and I have a question regarding myself. I understand you are taking a strict stance on edit-warring, which is okay (and I've seen you inspiring shock and awe on edit-warriors at Arbcom.) But with the standards you seem to be applying, I have the feeling even I could find myself on the wrong end of them some day. So, here's a genuine question: what would you recommend me to do?
I tend to follow this rule: In an emerging dispute, I revert once with a reason in the edit summary. If that doesn't stick, I revert a second time with a detailed reasoning on talkpage. If that doesn't stick, I usually don't revert again but ask for other people's opinions or help. That may result in a third opinion on talk, leading to further consensus-building in the best case. Or it may result in those people choosing to join in reverting. I don't ask them to do that, though. But conversely, I am willing to do the same kind of "helping-out" reverts in other articles, if I'm confident that the other side is acting obstinately and disruptively and has not been responding adequately to rational talk-page discussion. There are such cases.
In practice, look at what happened at, for instance Souliotes between 20 June and 4 July. I ended up doing some 10 or 11 reverts within two weeks, scratching 3RR once. I was dealing with a guy who insisted on including an OR paragraph even while admitting it was OR. I think I removed it some five or six times. Another guy was adding and removing "fact" tags arbitrarily on the whim of which statements suited his POV and which didn't. Both were making personal attacks. I discussed extensively both on article talk and personal talk pages. I offered to go for an article RfC. But in the end, only reverting helped.
So, am I a revert-warrior in your book? Honestly, what would you suggest I do in such a situation? Don't tell me "follow dispute resolution" - I know what dispute resolution is. Article RfCs hardly ever get response these days; mediation has big backlogs and moreover requires much higher levels of mutual cooperation and rationality on both sides of a debate. Both can be great in some cases, but if all disputes of the above type and size went to either of these two avenues, the place would be utterly swamped. Informal "ask a trusted friend to join the discussion" is often much more efficient. And don't tell me "edit warring never improves a conflict, but always makes it worse". It's simply not true, in my experience. Sad as it is: some people are prepared to edit obstinately against policy and/or consensus, and cannot be reached by rational discussion. It's sometimes simply necessary to tag-team revert them in a demonstration of consensus, until they themselves reach 3RR. They understand no other language. Ugly, but in the case above that's what actually got the article pacified in the end. -- Your inveterate, unrepentant revert-warrior, Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
A comment to the note by the Future Perfect and Alex. I also thoroughly support admins reigning in and throwing blocks per their judgement to alleviate the overload of the ArbCom with obvious cases but under one condition: admins should take it upon themselves to thoroughly investigate the issue every time they dare to administer justice by their unilateral decisions. In cases, like the ones suggested by Alex or Future it would be easy for an admin to take the legitimate editor for an edit warrior unless the admin takes enough time to diligently study the matter. If an admin does not have time for that, he should leave it to the admins who are less busy at the moment. The emotional aggravation of the legitimate editor to be hit by an unfair block is too huge to risk it. In the
note I posted at WP:AN shortly before this accident (what an amazing coincidence!) I offered one clue on how to see whether one needs to be even more thorough than normally. If the suspect is an established editor, with a reputation he likely cherishes and the empty or short block log, then what looks like edit warring may actually turn out to be something else, like
WP:BRD or simply fending the troll off. As such, if the examples presented by Future and Alex the issue is looked at properly, there would not be any action against the editor who is developing the article.
This is all fine and dandy to cite WP:DR but it sounds patronizing and also offensive to the users who know it well and routinely follow it. When I remove someone's nonsense addition to the article and in response receive a {{ blank}} at my talk, I would see it as a bad faith aggravating gesture. So looks the reminder of WP:DR to the editors who resolved hundreds of disagreements with their opponents in the past.
When dealing with a sock, abusive vandal or a bad-faith troll the demand to follow WP:DR just makes no sense. As such, it is useful to look and compare the involved editor's overall backgrounds to get some initial clues. Demanding to file RfCs and ArbCom every time a new troll or an extremist appears just makes no sense. We would be all writing RfCs and ArbCom submissions if we followed it. AndriyK's case is a more grievous than most, and here, I was wrong not to have addressed to the ArbCom yet.
The bottom-line is the same. If the editor is at fault, it is ok to punish him, irrespective of his past contributions. However, the due effort to determine the actual fault is required. If this is impossible, ArbCom is lesser of an evil than the editors offended by the unjustified block.
Look at it this way: this is the same discretion thing as for admins to block per their own judgement when there is no technical 3RR. The editors also can make a good-faith judgement on how to deal with particular situation and, when acting reasonably, should not be penalized for that, similar to an Admin throwing a non-3RR judgement block, should not automatically be grilled at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct#Use of administrator privileges. -- Irpen 00:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
For those of you who supported my RfA, I highly appreciate your kind words and your trust in me. For those who opposed - many of you expressed valid concerns regarding my activity here; I will make an effort in addressing them as time goes on while at the same time using my admin tools appropriately. So, salamat, gracias, merci, ありがとう, спасибо, धन्यवाद, 多謝, agyamanak unay, شكرًا, cảm ơn, 감사합니다, mahalo, ขอบคุณครับ, go raibh maith agat, dziękuję, ευχαριστώ, Danke, תודה, mulţumesc, გმადლობთ, etc.! If you need any help, feel free to contact me.
PS: I took the company car (pictured left) out for a spin, and well... it's not quite how I pictured it. -- Chris S. 23:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)Please take a look at the case as I am told you had preformed the previous checkuser -- Cat out 07:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello Dominic/Archive13, and thank you for your support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with an overwhelming final count of (105/2/0). I was very pleased with the outpouring of kind words from the community that has now entrusted me with these tools, from the classroom, the lesson in human psychology and the international resource known as Wikipedia. The Free Encyclopedia. Please feel free to leave me plenty of requests, monitor my actions (through the admin desk on my userpage) and, if you find yourself in the mood, listen to some of what I do in real life. In any case, keep up the great work and have a fabulous day. Grand master ka 06:35, 16 July 2006 (UTC) |
"I did not 'attempt' to post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. I did post 100 chess biographies on Wikipedia. All but one of them is still there. I merely waited until [ Rook wave ], [ Phr ] and Louis Blair were not looking and reposted them. I added a new biography yesterday and no I am not going to tell you where it is for fear that they will vandalize it again." - Sam Sloan (samhsloan@gmail.com, NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255, 11 Jul 2006 05:23:13 -0700) http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.misc/msg/f245a0650c22f010?hl=en
"My Biography of Dimitrije Bjelica" - Sam Sloan (sloan@ishipress.com, NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.199.110.255, Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:09:34 GMT) http://groups.google.com/group/samsloan/msg/eefc91bb2aeda9d0?hl=en http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrije_Bjelica - Louis Blair (July 19, 2006)
Hi there. I realize there's nothing to stop you from randomly blocking AOL IPs, but could you at least set a slightly higher threshold for week long blocks, 1 edit from a vandal + a 1 week block = vastly more collateral damage than stopping power-- 205.188.116.138 13:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you using {{ Sockpuppetproven}} for puppets blocked via checkuser results; I used to do that, but eventually got tired of typing in "checkuser results" as a summary, and instead created {{sockpuppetcheckuser|Puppeteer}}. Feel free to use that if you want, it shows up as:
Hope you find it useful! Essjay (Talk) 21:12, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello, please help with a case about alleged adminship abuse by JzG, which had been rejected by three arbitrators before an administrator warned the accused one and undid part of his actions. The conflict is going on and I do not know how to find a solution. The only arbitrator who has sinced voted on the case is one who in my eyes is in a conflict of interest as he did a very similar block on me in the past that I think was abusive and that was undone by Theresa as it lacked any evidence of wrongdoing by me. I had suggested a change to the blocking policy but the discussion about it has up to now been inconclusive due to a lack of participants. Socafan 02:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Great duck, but where is his towel? ;P H ig hway Return to Oz... 18:48, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, who was the autor of this picture : http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Image%3AOstia-Toilets.JPG ? Kelson 18:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I know you have voted on the matter of Coolcaesar, but right after you voted, his destructive and malicious behavior began again, even after an ingenuine apology that you thought was legitamite. Perhaps you might want to reconsider your vote, as is clear by the edit that if an Arb Case does not make him change his ways, nothing will, and this IS indeed the apppropriate step. -- 69.238.56.207 19:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
You write:
Oh, I think our disagreement is much more fundamental than being about "what the situation calls for". Firstly, I consider that your decision to reject everything I've done without a word to me to say that you had done so, or to explain why, lacks even basic common courtesy. This note was the first time you have said this, although it was four weeks ago that I sent you the statement.
As for this "proposed remedy", it's not, it's a "finding of fact". It's a fact which I have found to be true. Nothing which has appeared on that page has in any sense been taken account of by any arbitrator. Nothing at all. I really can't understand your obstinacy on this point. Whatever you think you are doing, it is not arbitration. I've offered to negotiate and suggested alternative ways of handling any problem to which proposed decision no. 1 is designed to address (which my voluntary agreement with Irishpunktom has in any case rendered impossible). Nothing has happened. No response. It has been the very opposite of the responsive process it should have been. If I sound bitter about it, then you are not getting an inaccurate impression.
I must ask for an explanation of your remark "Strangely, considering your behaviour so far I am not surprised." This is either a personal attack or something much worse. Perhaps you should bear in mind that old French proverb "Cet animal est très méchant: quand on l'attaque, il se défend". For the uninitiated, the point being made is that the second statement being true is not a reason to believe the first statement is true. David | Talk 21:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
It is hardly unreasonable to take offence at an offensive statement, even one by implication. However I accept your sincerity and good faith are not in question: it is by now quite obvious that you had none to start with. I am not lecturing you on how arbitration works so much as telling you that what you are doing is not arbitration, and it hasn't worked. I don't know what it is you think you're doing. It certainly isn't in the best interests of Wikipedia, and please don't kid yourself that is. David | Talk 11:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey Dmc. I responded to the topic you brought up. My response is a bit long, so I won't reproduce it here. But thanks for bringing up the topic.....I'm guessing this issue is bothering other people too. I hope I helped clear up some things for you. The ikiroid ( talk· desk· Advise me) 22:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Since it was you who blocked Molobo and brought some measure of peace to the Eastern European segment of this project, I think you might be interested to check the latest developments. There appeared 83.5.xxx.xxx, which operates from Warsaw, making usually one edit from one address. He surveys my watchlist on a regular basis and targets my contributions relentlessly. We suspect him to be Molobo, but our request to investigate was rejected on WP:RCU. Revelling in his impunity, the guy went to WP:AN and WP:ANI where he posted a slanderous message "Administrator user:Alex Bakharev and his semi-protection spree". This guy, while making no useful or constructive edits, distracts my attention from creating new content. Besides, I don't like being stalked. Could you advise what I should do? -- Ghirla -трёп- 13:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Based on this, it appears that it is a user evading a block.
Best, Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 14:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
This is not Molobo. See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Administrator_user:Alex_Bakharev__and_his_semi-protection_spree, especially the latter links, for evidence.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 19:25, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I've simply been rather busy at work, which should be much reduced next week. Thanks, Matthew Brown (Morven) ( T: C) 21:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I ask that you kindly reconsider your vote for user:coolcaesar and change it to accept the case. After he made his apologies on the arbitration page, he has gone on to offend two more Wikipedians in just 3 days. I know that there has not been alot done previously, and mediation as well as dozens of notices to him were the actions that were taken. But, after he apologized to the ArbCom, he continued again to do this. It shows that even a pending ArbCom case is not enough to change his actions. I kindly ask that you reconsider your vote for he flat out lied, and that comes after all the horrible personal attacks he committed. I posted the links on the Arbitration Case that relates to him. I would appreciate it. Thank You. -- 69.227.160.83 00:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I have noticed that on the "proposed decisions" of the RfArb against Eternal Equinox, you have voted to support the "Taunting by Giano" FoF using the same comment that you used to used to oppose other "Taunting by Foo" FoFs. Is this deliberate? -- David Mestel( Talk) 17:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC)