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Well now I've revisited your long posts at MOSLINK, I realise I got the message completely wrong. I largely do agree with what you're saying. Tony (talk) 15:23, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of scientific constants named after people#Notability. 786b6364 ( talk) 16:25, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
The Wiknic is nearly upon us! We need to figure out who can bring different food items; please reply at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Evansville/Wiknic/2012#Food. Thanks! Bob the WikipediaN ( talk • contribs) 22:52, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Nyttend, I'd love to accompany you on your photo shoot. I might even learn something. As for where to meet, I'm happy to come by CRCC. Or, it might be simplest to just pick up me and Vmenkov on your way to the picnic. I'll be at CRCC a little later this afternoon (next door to the Liberian collection), so we can talk in person. — Ben Kovitz ( talk)
Hello, I felt these remarks were relevant. But I didn't want to stoke any flames. Regards, — MistyMorn ( talk) 05:41, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Yes, the article did need some updating. I think the most important update was inclusion of Ernst 2010, which I have now seen to. Honestly, I don't see any reason to go into greater detail regarding individual studies, a step which I don't think would be in the spirit of WP:MEDRS. Clear explanation of the role of publication bias (and how it can be detected) seems to me more relevant. Regards, — MistyMorn ( talk) 21:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Not terribly complex to explain really, when one's got wikilinks to help... Maybe, a newspaper article by Ben Goldacre could indeed be a key source to sketch a layman's explanation. — MistyMorn ( talk) 23:18, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Welcome back Ben. I saw your message and will reply soonish. Thanks, — MistyMorn ( talk) 15:23, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
I made a small reply to you in the Talk:Mathematics page. Marvin Ray Burns ( talk) 01:26, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Don't know if you heard, but the library school's Society of American Archivists student chapter is putting on a meetup on Saturday. There's not a ton of space at the venue (University Archives, fourth floor of Wells Library), so if you're interested, you should contact Brimarshall, the organiser. If you want to send Brimarshall an email directly instead of through the email service, let me know and I'll forward you the email that went put on the library school listserv. Nyttend ( talk) 04:08, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
The article stated baldly that "Ashkenazim" rise while "Sephardim" don't. In my personal experience, the Spanish and Portuguese congregations in London do. I therefore toned down the claim so as not to imply that all Sephardim are the same. If you want a source on the details, the best bet would probably be Gaguine's Keter Shem Tob, which compares the different Sephardic traditions. -- Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) ( talk) 09:15, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Ben, Regarding -Sentence added to 4th paragraph of lead. I was re-reading your original comment and noticed that somehow I missed the original meaning. I completely agree that the sentence re-added should be removed. Don't know how I missed that. Good work on the rewording we discussed. -- Daffydavid ( talk) 22:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello BenKovitz, I see you opened the talk page up on the Maize page to arguments from both sides. I'm not sure if anything has been done about it, but it seems that the Corn side has many more and better arguments. Since you seemed to be in charge, could you take another look at it? Shicoco ( talk) 14:27, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
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Sure! I've never been a heavy editor, but I just checked, and I see that indeed I've been trickling in about 18 edits a month since 2003. — Ben Kovitz ( talk) 13:53, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I think the sentence "Soylent has not been scientifically tested and is potentially dangerous" is an unnecessarily harsh statement, which is only an opinion expressed by the news article writer, not necessarily a medical experts opinion. I think people are confusing the use of this as a dietary supplement with its use as a sole food, which of course he is promoting, but which is really the only way it can be harmful, and since its not medically tested, no doctor on earth would recommend it as a sole food, just like no doctor would recommend flax oil as a sole food. other than that, not sure what else. Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 07:12, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
A great chance encounter at an unlikely place. Good luck with your dissertation! NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 02:30, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Just letting you know I've reverted your addition to this policy. I recommend seeking consensus first. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 21:39, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, I would just like to take to your attention that I will be doing an experiment on the Chemophobia one (it's still early on and it seems to be the weakest pick) but I am really not interested in arguing and spreading conflict with people over things I don't care about at all. I would just like a nice policy so it is easy to follow for everyone in the future so please do give me your thoughts on it as well. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chemophobia#Whole_article_stinks). Is invoking NPOV, Advocacy and Notability a good procedure here? I really have no idea how to work with all these terms in Wikipedia...it has grown into quite the bureaucratic colossus with an internal language that is difficult for outsiders to grasp. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.59.34.174 ( talk) 11:58, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Ben, I read in one breath your amazing story about the Wikipedia emergence... and it touched me deeply. I think every editor on Wikipedia should read it to understand the deep meaning of Wikipedia. Also, I have seen remarkable thoughts in your essay about salience, especially "There is more to writing an encyclopedia than collecting facts from verifiable sources..." I only wonder why there are no other contributors in this interesting and so important for Wikipedia topic (looking at the history, I see you started it almost five years ago)... strange... Thank you for all that wisdom... I was just willing to accept it... -- Circuit dreamer ( talk, contribs, email) 22:14, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Hey there? What do you mean with "not readable"?
Is there something I could improve on that?
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I won't insist, but the picture File:Its fun to be a Sentinel.jpg Fun at work was meant to illustrate : Fellowship: This type of fun is created when cooperation and coexistence with other people... This could be developed much more.
But maybe you never had fun on your workplace ...
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I would like to address the two questions you posed in your summary to this edit. I already responded to question (c) on Talk:Mathematics, but I would like to respond here as well to ensure there isn't any confusion. To reiterate, Oakley doesn't actually make the claim that mathematical notation is more ambiguous or equivocal than regular words. When she's describing encryptedness, she's referring to mathematical symbols having multiple operations or ideas embedded within them, not to mathematical symbols having more than one meaning ("standing for more than one operation"). Hence, the question of whether there is consensus among scholars about the ambiguity of mathematical notation isn't really relevant; Oakley never concerns herself with this question, and it isn't really addressed in the article either.
I also have a quick response to question (b). As Mr. August stated, two of the three ideas attributed to Oakley (viz., that mathematical notation is more abstract than natural language and more encrypted than natural language) seem self-evidently true. Oakley isn't making any innovative claims here; in fact, I can't think of any mathematicians who would disagree with these statements (assuming, of course, there isn't any confusion about what is meant by "encrypted"). For that reason, I agree with you that mentioning Oakley by name is unnecessary. The focus should be on the ideas she's describing rather than on the person who's describing them. I personally would support removing the in-text attribution to Oakley, but keeping her citations and the wording they support in their current form.
Any thoughts? Lord Bolingbroke ( talk) 03:45, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
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Hello, and thank you for your inspiration for the Wiki-encyclopedia concept and instant follow-through with Larry Sanger as outlined on your user page, which I just read. A very good historical document, especially with Sanger's reply. The concept and cooperation shown in those early hours and days created something which now seems to be the largest collaborative process in human history as well as one of humanity's touchstones. Nice work. Randy Kryn ( talk) 15:19, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
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I noticed that you made a WP:NOTADVICE edit to the CSV page to clean up the Application Support section (11:55, 5 February 2018). I had added a sentence 27 January 2017 about an Excel nuance with non-comma delimiters ('cause I found that nuance to be a significant issue with how Excel supported non-comma delimited *.csv files).
Based on your understanding of the WP:NOTADVICE guidelines and the page structure regarding Comma Separated Values, where/if/how should a nuance like Excel's interpretation of the "sep= " row be recorded in Wikipedia?
Thank you for any insight you can give.
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What exactly was wrong with the wording changes I made? I would like to know, especially because I am a non-native speaker who wants to improve his English. Zesd ( talk) 21:45, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
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Well now I've revisited your long posts at MOSLINK, I realise I got the message completely wrong. I largely do agree with what you're saying. Tony (talk) 15:23, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of scientific constants named after people#Notability. 786b6364 ( talk) 16:25, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
The Wiknic is nearly upon us! We need to figure out who can bring different food items; please reply at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Evansville/Wiknic/2012#Food. Thanks! Bob the WikipediaN ( talk • contribs) 22:52, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Nyttend, I'd love to accompany you on your photo shoot. I might even learn something. As for where to meet, I'm happy to come by CRCC. Or, it might be simplest to just pick up me and Vmenkov on your way to the picnic. I'll be at CRCC a little later this afternoon (next door to the Liberian collection), so we can talk in person. — Ben Kovitz ( talk)
Hello, I felt these remarks were relevant. But I didn't want to stoke any flames. Regards, — MistyMorn ( talk) 05:41, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Yes, the article did need some updating. I think the most important update was inclusion of Ernst 2010, which I have now seen to. Honestly, I don't see any reason to go into greater detail regarding individual studies, a step which I don't think would be in the spirit of WP:MEDRS. Clear explanation of the role of publication bias (and how it can be detected) seems to me more relevant. Regards, — MistyMorn ( talk) 21:29, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Not terribly complex to explain really, when one's got wikilinks to help... Maybe, a newspaper article by Ben Goldacre could indeed be a key source to sketch a layman's explanation. — MistyMorn ( talk) 23:18, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Welcome back Ben. I saw your message and will reply soonish. Thanks, — MistyMorn ( talk) 15:23, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
I made a small reply to you in the Talk:Mathematics page. Marvin Ray Burns ( talk) 01:26, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Don't know if you heard, but the library school's Society of American Archivists student chapter is putting on a meetup on Saturday. There's not a ton of space at the venue (University Archives, fourth floor of Wells Library), so if you're interested, you should contact Brimarshall, the organiser. If you want to send Brimarshall an email directly instead of through the email service, let me know and I'll forward you the email that went put on the library school listserv. Nyttend ( talk) 04:08, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
The article stated baldly that "Ashkenazim" rise while "Sephardim" don't. In my personal experience, the Spanish and Portuguese congregations in London do. I therefore toned down the claim so as not to imply that all Sephardim are the same. If you want a source on the details, the best bet would probably be Gaguine's Keter Shem Tob, which compares the different Sephardic traditions. -- Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) ( talk) 09:15, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Ben, Regarding -Sentence added to 4th paragraph of lead. I was re-reading your original comment and noticed that somehow I missed the original meaning. I completely agree that the sentence re-added should be removed. Don't know how I missed that. Good work on the rewording we discussed. -- Daffydavid ( talk) 22:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello BenKovitz, I see you opened the talk page up on the Maize page to arguments from both sides. I'm not sure if anything has been done about it, but it seems that the Corn side has many more and better arguments. Since you seemed to be in charge, could you take another look at it? Shicoco ( talk) 14:27, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
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Sure! I've never been a heavy editor, but I just checked, and I see that indeed I've been trickling in about 18 edits a month since 2003. — Ben Kovitz ( talk) 13:53, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I think the sentence "Soylent has not been scientifically tested and is potentially dangerous" is an unnecessarily harsh statement, which is only an opinion expressed by the news article writer, not necessarily a medical experts opinion. I think people are confusing the use of this as a dietary supplement with its use as a sole food, which of course he is promoting, but which is really the only way it can be harmful, and since its not medically tested, no doctor on earth would recommend it as a sole food, just like no doctor would recommend flax oil as a sole food. other than that, not sure what else. Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 07:12, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
A great chance encounter at an unlikely place. Good luck with your dissertation! NorthBySouthBaranof ( talk) 02:30, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Just letting you know I've reverted your addition to this policy. I recommend seeking consensus first. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 21:39, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Can't remember if it were to you or to Rob whom I was mentioning this today, so leaving the same message for both of you. Rockhouse Cliffs Rockshelters is the rockshelter site in question; as you can see from File:Rockhouse Hollow shelter with human for scale, interior.jpg, its ceiling is several times the height of a person, and it's quite the impressive sight when you come around the corner and observe it for the first time. Thanks for participating in the meetup! Nyttend ( talk) 06:37, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
This may sounds wrong to you, and please see the talk to find what section of the source supports this, ... but please restore the info.
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Thank you for your insightful responses to my question regarding paid editing. I hope you would not mind if I quoted you in my sure-to-be-published-nationwide-first-year-English-class paper. ; ) If you do mind, let me know on my talk page. Thanks Pugsly8000 ( talk) 00:32, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, I would just like to take to your attention that I will be doing an experiment on the Chemophobia one (it's still early on and it seems to be the weakest pick) but I am really not interested in arguing and spreading conflict with people over things I don't care about at all. I would just like a nice policy so it is easy to follow for everyone in the future so please do give me your thoughts on it as well. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chemophobia#Whole_article_stinks). Is invoking NPOV, Advocacy and Notability a good procedure here? I really have no idea how to work with all these terms in Wikipedia...it has grown into quite the bureaucratic colossus with an internal language that is difficult for outsiders to grasp. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.59.34.174 ( talk) 11:58, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
Ben, I read in one breath your amazing story about the Wikipedia emergence... and it touched me deeply. I think every editor on Wikipedia should read it to understand the deep meaning of Wikipedia. Also, I have seen remarkable thoughts in your essay about salience, especially "There is more to writing an encyclopedia than collecting facts from verifiable sources..." I only wonder why there are no other contributors in this interesting and so important for Wikipedia topic (looking at the history, I see you started it almost five years ago)... strange... Thank you for all that wisdom... I was just willing to accept it... -- Circuit dreamer ( talk, contribs, email) 22:14, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Hey there? What do you mean with "not readable"?
Is there something I could improve on that?
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You made recent edits on Help:IPA for Latin to replace example words like "scar" with "cat". Consonant clusters like in "spot" and "store" are conventionally used for English phonology to illustrate unaspirated stops versus aspirated. Personally I don't like this convention, since a layperson who doesn't know what unaspirated means or sounds like would not understand the difference in the sound of "scar" or "cat" anyway, but it is convention in every dictionary and language-learning book (but not linguistics book) I've ever seen. I won't revert, but as a heads-up, don't be surprised and don't edit-war if somebody does, because they would be backed by both convention and technical correctness. SamuelRiv ( talk) 14:20, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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Hello BenKovitz,
I won't insist, but the picture File:Its fun to be a Sentinel.jpg Fun at work was meant to illustrate : Fellowship: This type of fun is created when cooperation and coexistence with other people... This could be developed much more.
But maybe you never had fun on your workplace ...
Happy editing anyway,
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I would like to address the two questions you posed in your summary to this edit. I already responded to question (c) on Talk:Mathematics, but I would like to respond here as well to ensure there isn't any confusion. To reiterate, Oakley doesn't actually make the claim that mathematical notation is more ambiguous or equivocal than regular words. When she's describing encryptedness, she's referring to mathematical symbols having multiple operations or ideas embedded within them, not to mathematical symbols having more than one meaning ("standing for more than one operation"). Hence, the question of whether there is consensus among scholars about the ambiguity of mathematical notation isn't really relevant; Oakley never concerns herself with this question, and it isn't really addressed in the article either.
I also have a quick response to question (b). As Mr. August stated, two of the three ideas attributed to Oakley (viz., that mathematical notation is more abstract than natural language and more encrypted than natural language) seem self-evidently true. Oakley isn't making any innovative claims here; in fact, I can't think of any mathematicians who would disagree with these statements (assuming, of course, there isn't any confusion about what is meant by "encrypted"). For that reason, I agree with you that mentioning Oakley by name is unnecessary. The focus should be on the ideas she's describing rather than on the person who's describing them. I personally would support removing the in-text attribution to Oakley, but keeping her citations and the wording they support in their current form.
Any thoughts? Lord Bolingbroke ( talk) 03:45, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
also tell me the correct latin translation for "Make it so"? Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 13:42, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
Hello, and thank you for your inspiration for the Wiki-encyclopedia concept and instant follow-through with Larry Sanger as outlined on your user page, which I just read. A very good historical document, especially with Sanger's reply. The concept and cooperation shown in those early hours and days created something which now seems to be the largest collaborative process in human history as well as one of humanity's touchstones. Nice work. Randy Kryn ( talk) 15:19, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
BenKovitz,
I noticed that you made a WP:NOTADVICE edit to the CSV page to clean up the Application Support section (11:55, 5 February 2018). I had added a sentence 27 January 2017 about an Excel nuance with non-comma delimiters ('cause I found that nuance to be a significant issue with how Excel supported non-comma delimited *.csv files).
Based on your understanding of the WP:NOTADVICE guidelines and the page structure regarding Comma Separated Values, where/if/how should a nuance like Excel's interpretation of the "sep= " row be recorded in Wikipedia?
Thank you for any insight you can give.
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What exactly was wrong with the wording changes I made? I would like to know, especially because I am a non-native speaker who wants to improve his English. Zesd ( talk) 21:45, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
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