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I consider that in the areas of mathematics, Computational Mathematics should be eliminated, since it belongs, in any case, to an area of mathematics in conjunction with another science, such as Mathematical Physics or Mathematical Economics, and not to pure mathematics like the rest.
Alternatively, a section of applied mathematics could be incorporated where Computational Mathematics could be included.
Alex gnpi ( talk) 09:12, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm in my mid-20s, and I remember reading the lead of this article as a kid and being happy with how elegant it was:
Mathematics (colloquially, maths or math) is the body of knowledge centered on such concepts as quantity, structure, space, and change, and also the academic discipline that studies them. Benjamin Peirce called it "the science that draws necessary conclusions". [1]
Other practitioners of mathematics [2] [3] maintain that mathematics is the science of pattern, that mathematicians seek out patterns whether found in numbers, space, science, computers, imaginary abstractions, or elsewhere. Mathematicians explore such concepts, aiming to formulate new conjectures and establish their truth by rigorous deduction from appropriately chosen axioms and definitions. [4]
I think, broadly, this is significantly better than the present lead. There's a lot of 00s-isms there, we shouldn't consider copy-pasting it back, but would there be consensus to rewrite the lead based on a 2008 version, before the article got de-GAd?
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Remsense 诉 13:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Most mathematical activity involves the discovery of properties of abstract objects and the use of pure reason to prove them. These objects consist of either abstractions from nature or—in modern mathematics—entities that are stipulated to have certain properties, called axioms. A proof consists of a succession of applications of deductive rules to already established results. These results include previously proved theorems, axioms, and—in case of abstraction from nature—some basic properties that are considered true starting points of the theory under consideration.
Most mathematical activity involves statements about abstract objects, known as theorems, and the use of reason to prove them. These objects may be abstractions of the natural world or entities with no relation to reality. A mathematical proof of a new theorem is formed by applying a series of deductive rules to these objects, using their known properties, which come from base assumptions known as axioms as well as previously proven theorems.
D.Lazard ( talk) 15:27, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Most mathematical activity involves the manipulation of abstract objects in view of proving statements called theorems. These objects may be abstractions of the natural world such as numbers and curves, or entities with no direct relation to reality such as rings, topologies and cryptographic protocols. A proof of a theorem is formed by applying a series of deductive rules starting from known properties, which may be either base assumptions known as axioms, or previously proven theorems.
Mathematics is the study of concepts such as number, structure, space, and change. These topics are broadly represented by the major mathematical disciplines of number theory, algebra, geometry, and analysis, respectively. There is no general consensus among mathematicians about a common definition for their academic discipline. Most mathematical activity involves the manipulation of abstract objects in view of proving statements called theorems. These objects may be abstractions of the natural world such as numbers and curves, or entities with no direct relation to reality such as rings, topologies and cryptographic protocols. A proof of a theorem is formed by applying a series of deductive rules starting from known properties, which may be either base assumptions known as axioms, or previously proven theorems.
I have seen the section "Training and practice" in the article, to which some info could be added from the following source https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01425692.2023.2240530 178.138.99.208 ( talk) 16:23, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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I consider that in the areas of mathematics, Computational Mathematics should be eliminated, since it belongs, in any case, to an area of mathematics in conjunction with another science, such as Mathematical Physics or Mathematical Economics, and not to pure mathematics like the rest.
Alternatively, a section of applied mathematics could be incorporated where Computational Mathematics could be included.
Alex gnpi ( talk) 09:12, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm in my mid-20s, and I remember reading the lead of this article as a kid and being happy with how elegant it was:
Mathematics (colloquially, maths or math) is the body of knowledge centered on such concepts as quantity, structure, space, and change, and also the academic discipline that studies them. Benjamin Peirce called it "the science that draws necessary conclusions". [1]
Other practitioners of mathematics [2] [3] maintain that mathematics is the science of pattern, that mathematicians seek out patterns whether found in numbers, space, science, computers, imaginary abstractions, or elsewhere. Mathematicians explore such concepts, aiming to formulate new conjectures and establish their truth by rigorous deduction from appropriately chosen axioms and definitions. [4]
I think, broadly, this is significantly better than the present lead. There's a lot of 00s-isms there, we shouldn't consider copy-pasting it back, but would there be consensus to rewrite the lead based on a 2008 version, before the article got de-GAd?
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Remsense 诉 13:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Most mathematical activity involves the discovery of properties of abstract objects and the use of pure reason to prove them. These objects consist of either abstractions from nature or—in modern mathematics—entities that are stipulated to have certain properties, called axioms. A proof consists of a succession of applications of deductive rules to already established results. These results include previously proved theorems, axioms, and—in case of abstraction from nature—some basic properties that are considered true starting points of the theory under consideration.
Most mathematical activity involves statements about abstract objects, known as theorems, and the use of reason to prove them. These objects may be abstractions of the natural world or entities with no relation to reality. A mathematical proof of a new theorem is formed by applying a series of deductive rules to these objects, using their known properties, which come from base assumptions known as axioms as well as previously proven theorems.
D.Lazard ( talk) 15:27, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Most mathematical activity involves the manipulation of abstract objects in view of proving statements called theorems. These objects may be abstractions of the natural world such as numbers and curves, or entities with no direct relation to reality such as rings, topologies and cryptographic protocols. A proof of a theorem is formed by applying a series of deductive rules starting from known properties, which may be either base assumptions known as axioms, or previously proven theorems.
Mathematics is the study of concepts such as number, structure, space, and change. These topics are broadly represented by the major mathematical disciplines of number theory, algebra, geometry, and analysis, respectively. There is no general consensus among mathematicians about a common definition for their academic discipline. Most mathematical activity involves the manipulation of abstract objects in view of proving statements called theorems. These objects may be abstractions of the natural world such as numbers and curves, or entities with no direct relation to reality such as rings, topologies and cryptographic protocols. A proof of a theorem is formed by applying a series of deductive rules starting from known properties, which may be either base assumptions known as axioms, or previously proven theorems.
I have seen the section "Training and practice" in the article, to which some info could be added from the following source https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01425692.2023.2240530 178.138.99.208 ( talk) 16:23, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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where does the rules of math state that 1x0=0 add Jgomezbeyondpie ( talk) 04:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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