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I tried to delete/merge the "Reunification" article and got nowhere. Maybe I need to come at this a different way altogether. The 67 annex (de facto at a minimum, de jure for all practical purposes according to most authoritative sources annexed "Jordanian East Jerusalem" (this part one could arguably describe as "reunification") and a chunk of the WB (this part is a straight up annex). Neither part is accepted internationally as legal (no change to Jerusalem and occupied WB (including East Jerusalem) resolutions.) Then, a la Jordan case, we have a missing article, Israeli annexation of East Jerusalem ( Annexation of East Jerusalem is currently a redirect to Jerusalem Law which is wrong afaics but I have not sources to verify that as yet) where East Jerusalem has today's meaning of both annexed parts (compare Jordanian annexation of the West Bank and West Bank.) Such an article has foundational sourcing, is clearly notable and fixes up misapprehensions/lacunae in the existing Jerusalem articles (reunification, Jerusalem law and Jerusalem day as well as to a lesser extent East Jerusalem articles). Do you think an article like that has merit? An aside, what is your understanding of the term "Arab Jerusalem"? Selfstudier ( talk) 12:28, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Zero - I hope things are OK. I am making an attempt to rationalise some of the piles of books in the back room and realise I have 60-70 B'Tselem reports. I am minded to list them on the B'Tselem page but I have a memory that there used to be something similar but it seems to have gone. Can you remember if this is ground that has already been trampled on? Will I just get told off if I have a go at it? All the best. Padres Hana ( talk) 21:38, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
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so edit on that page, not my user space. Tiamut talk 12:06, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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Do you have a view on this? I thought it would be just the same as the last time around but seems not. Selfstudier ( talk) 14:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Here you wrote that you removed information per consensus on the talk page. In fact there is no consensus, we just started the discussion on the talk page. Could you revert it until the consensus is reached? Alaexis ¿question? 07:29, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I had a question you might know the answer to. The 500/30 restriction that has been in place for the Israel-Palestine TA covers comments by brand new accounts made at RfCs, right? This has been my understanding but I'm not all that familiar with this topic area. Volunteer Marek 13:13, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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If I take this UN map and add the names per this one would that be legit? Selfstudier ( talk) 10:09, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello :) I am writing my MA dissertation on Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict, and I noticed that you have contributed to those pages. My dissertation will look at the process of collaborative knowledge production on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and the effect it has on bias in the articles. This will involve understanding the profiles and motivations of editors, contention/controversy and dispute resolution in the talk pages, and bias in the final article.
For more information, you can check out my meta-wiki research page or my user page, where I will be posting my findings when I am done.
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Sarabnas I'm researching Wikipedia Questions? 21:16, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
I vaguely recall you having an interest in this newspaper. Is this of any use? Selfstudier ( talk) 09:53, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
Hey. I thought you might find this of interest. Ynet reports ( link) that yesterday night, two drunk Israeli women accidentally ended up lost (drunkenly) in the Al-Am'ari refugee camp, a camp which Ynet describes as being one of the most dangerous in the West Bank, which even Palestinian Authority forces are wary of entering.
Anyway, rescued by Palestinian Authority forces and handed over to the IDF. They've been criminally charged for unauthorized entry into Area A and for violating a standing Aluf directive.
Regards, El_C 14:49, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, I didn't enjoy the interaction. Please refrain from messaging me in general. If you see a remark I make on a talkpage, you do not have to feel obliged to give conter-criticism of the criticism itself, rather choose to address it in general without asking me to personally respond to you. I don't see the point, and I respond solely because of the provocation, not from interest in the discussion. It's quiet unpleasant and useless.
I don't like the use of the slur "Silly".
Goodbye -- Vanlister ( talk) 11:44, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Zero, I've been beginning to weigh in on articles on food and other things in the Middle East, and I've noticed that the region is particularly oddly divided/classified on the platform. Some of these problems are clearly years in the making, such as the locking of the Wikiprojects to the UN's geoscheme and the use of the totally unnatural phrase 'Western Asia' to refer to the Middle East. But today, one particular issue has grasped my attention, and it pertains to North Africa. Everything gets fantastically messy here, with Maghreb, Middle East, Northwestern Africa and Northeastern Africa all overlapping, but on the specific note of North Africa, a seemlingly unresolved question that has lingered for decades is whether to include Sudan. This has been discussed extensively on the talk page, in various forms, including in relation to the independence of South Sudan, but not firmly resolved. However, as I have noted in a comment, the issue is actually fairly simple. ONLY the UN Statistics Division, which is locked to the UN geoscheme, includes Sudan, while the African Union, World Bank and Encylopedia Britannica sources (and so on) exclude it. Even in the article, there is little mention of Sudan on the page beyond the UN definition. I personally think Sudan should go, in line with most of the sources, geopolitical definitions such as Mena and based on cultural context. Without Sudan, North Africa is a convenient grouping of Maghreb + Egypt + enclaves + Maghrebi culturally influenced Atlantic islands. With Sudan, it is all of that plus an awkwardly placed Sahel state. Anyway, I thought it could really do with the eye of an experienced editor and administrator with an interest in the Middle East to rule on it. I'd be grateful for your input. Best regards, Iskandar 323 ( talk) 12:51, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Does it practically change anything as far as Arbpia goes? Selfstudier ( talk) 12:44, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification — always helps to read the actual UN address in question.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ RE: WaPo's (or AP's Joseph Krauss, rather) final paragraph: Abbas has made veiled threats before, and is unlikely to follow through with the kind of drastic political decision that would spell the end of the PA
— what's your take? Regards,
El_C
12:11, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I saw your comment at the JIDF talk page. The last AfD was inconclusive and I tend to agree with the main argument to delete there about sustained coverage. I'm a little nervous to send it back though, because it seems like a politically-charged topic. OrgoneBox ( talk) 15:54, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, could you please have a word with @ TerraCyprus: re his recent editing of categories in the IP area. Thanks. Selfstudier ( talk) 13:36, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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Diff This person cannot take a hint (re this) Selfstudier ( talk) 12:23, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
You're now the 2nd editor to accuse David Collier of "outing" or "doxxing" wikipedia editors. diff
As of yet, neither of you has provided a reference to substantiate that accusations.
Can you please do so?
-- Bob drobbs ( talk) 06:09, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
At first sight there is a catch-22: how to just justify an assertion that an external actor is engaging in doxxing without linking to the doxxing and thereby participating in it. But this is not the case: evidence about external actors can be sent in confidence to the Wikimedia Trust and Safety Committee, who can evaluate it and take action against Wikipedia editors or not at their discretion. There is no requirement to justify the assertion in public on Wikipedia. Zero talk 01:23, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
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Can you do anything about these two? 5 edits and no others since 23 February & 10 edits and no others since 5 May all for the same thing, pointless repetitive requests to remove the description right wing for StandWithUs, WP:NOTHERE. Selfstudier ( talk) 19:35, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
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I tried to delete/merge the "Reunification" article and got nowhere. Maybe I need to come at this a different way altogether. The 67 annex (de facto at a minimum, de jure for all practical purposes according to most authoritative sources annexed "Jordanian East Jerusalem" (this part one could arguably describe as "reunification") and a chunk of the WB (this part is a straight up annex). Neither part is accepted internationally as legal (no change to Jerusalem and occupied WB (including East Jerusalem) resolutions.) Then, a la Jordan case, we have a missing article, Israeli annexation of East Jerusalem ( Annexation of East Jerusalem is currently a redirect to Jerusalem Law which is wrong afaics but I have not sources to verify that as yet) where East Jerusalem has today's meaning of both annexed parts (compare Jordanian annexation of the West Bank and West Bank.) Such an article has foundational sourcing, is clearly notable and fixes up misapprehensions/lacunae in the existing Jerusalem articles (reunification, Jerusalem law and Jerusalem day as well as to a lesser extent East Jerusalem articles). Do you think an article like that has merit? An aside, what is your understanding of the term "Arab Jerusalem"? Selfstudier ( talk) 12:28, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
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post-1992 politics of United States and closely related people, replacing the 1932 cutoff.
Hi Zero - I hope things are OK. I am making an attempt to rationalise some of the piles of books in the back room and realise I have 60-70 B'Tselem reports. I am minded to list them on the B'Tselem page but I have a memory that there used to be something similar but it seems to have gone. Can you remember if this is ground that has already been trampled on? Will I just get told off if I have a go at it? All the best. Padres Hana ( talk) 21:38, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
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authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, any gender-related dispute or controversy and associated people.Sanctions issued under GamerGate are now considered Gender and sexuality sanctions.
the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan, broadly construed.
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delete-redirect
userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.Would you happen to know how the initial categorization of (Israel) Palestine articles came about? Cheers. Selfstudier ( talk) 14:16, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
so edit on that page, not my user space. Tiamut talk 12:06, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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T112147 if you have objections.Hi, Is it] really such a problem having this perm? I could understand if I was misusing it but I haven't been. Selfstudier ( talk) 10:18, 20 May 2021 (UTC) Thank you for that. Selfstudier ( talk) 13:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Do you have a view on this? I thought it would be just the same as the last time around but seems not. Selfstudier ( talk) 14:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Here you wrote that you removed information per consensus on the talk page. In fact there is no consensus, we just started the discussion on the talk page. Could you revert it until the consensus is reached? Alaexis ¿question? 07:29, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I had a question you might know the answer to. The 500/30 restriction that has been in place for the Israel-Palestine TA covers comments by brand new accounts made at RfCs, right? This has been my understanding but I'm not all that familiar with this topic area. Volunteer Marek 13:13, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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If I take this UN map and add the names per this one would that be legit? Selfstudier ( talk) 10:09, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello :) I am writing my MA dissertation on Wikipedia Wars and the Israel-Palestine conflict, and I noticed that you have contributed to those pages. My dissertation will look at the process of collaborative knowledge production on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and the effect it has on bias in the articles. This will involve understanding the profiles and motivations of editors, contention/controversy and dispute resolution in the talk pages, and bias in the final article.
For more information, you can check out my meta-wiki research page or my user page, where I will be posting my findings when I am done.
I would greatly appreciate if you could take 5 minutes to fill out this quick survey before 8 August 2021.
Participation in this survey is entirely voluntary and anonymous. There are no foreseeable risks nor benefits to you associated with this project.
Thanks so much,
Sarah Sanbar
Sarabnas I'm researching Wikipedia Questions? 21:16, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
I vaguely recall you having an interest in this newspaper. Is this of any use? Selfstudier ( talk) 09:53, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
Hey. I thought you might find this of interest. Ynet reports ( link) that yesterday night, two drunk Israeli women accidentally ended up lost (drunkenly) in the Al-Am'ari refugee camp, a camp which Ynet describes as being one of the most dangerous in the West Bank, which even Palestinian Authority forces are wary of entering.
Anyway, rescued by Palestinian Authority forces and handed over to the IDF. They've been criminally charged for unauthorized entry into Area A and for violating a standing Aluf directive.
Regards, El_C 14:49, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, I didn't enjoy the interaction. Please refrain from messaging me in general. If you see a remark I make on a talkpage, you do not have to feel obliged to give conter-criticism of the criticism itself, rather choose to address it in general without asking me to personally respond to you. I don't see the point, and I respond solely because of the provocation, not from interest in the discussion. It's quiet unpleasant and useless.
I don't like the use of the slur "Silly".
Goodbye -- Vanlister ( talk) 11:44, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2021).
Hi Zero, I've been beginning to weigh in on articles on food and other things in the Middle East, and I've noticed that the region is particularly oddly divided/classified on the platform. Some of these problems are clearly years in the making, such as the locking of the Wikiprojects to the UN's geoscheme and the use of the totally unnatural phrase 'Western Asia' to refer to the Middle East. But today, one particular issue has grasped my attention, and it pertains to North Africa. Everything gets fantastically messy here, with Maghreb, Middle East, Northwestern Africa and Northeastern Africa all overlapping, but on the specific note of North Africa, a seemlingly unresolved question that has lingered for decades is whether to include Sudan. This has been discussed extensively on the talk page, in various forms, including in relation to the independence of South Sudan, but not firmly resolved. However, as I have noted in a comment, the issue is actually fairly simple. ONLY the UN Statistics Division, which is locked to the UN geoscheme, includes Sudan, while the African Union, World Bank and Encylopedia Britannica sources (and so on) exclude it. Even in the article, there is little mention of Sudan on the page beyond the UN definition. I personally think Sudan should go, in line with most of the sources, geopolitical definitions such as Mena and based on cultural context. Without Sudan, North Africa is a convenient grouping of Maghreb + Egypt + enclaves + Maghrebi culturally influenced Atlantic islands. With Sudan, it is all of that plus an awkwardly placed Sahel state. Anyway, I thought it could really do with the eye of an experienced editor and administrator with an interest in the Middle East to rule on it. I'd be grateful for your input. Best regards, Iskandar 323 ( talk) 12:51, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Does it practically change anything as far as Arbpia goes? Selfstudier ( talk) 12:44, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification — always helps to read the actual UN address in question.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ RE: WaPo's (or AP's Joseph Krauss, rather) final paragraph: Abbas has made veiled threats before, and is unlikely to follow through with the kind of drastic political decision that would spell the end of the PA
— what's your take? Regards,
El_C
12:11, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I saw your comment at the JIDF talk page. The last AfD was inconclusive and I tend to agree with the main argument to delete there about sustained coverage. I'm a little nervous to send it back though, because it seems like a politically-charged topic. OrgoneBox ( talk) 15:54, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi, could you please have a word with @ TerraCyprus: re his recent editing of categories in the IP area. Thanks. Selfstudier ( talk) 13:36, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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Diff This person cannot take a hint (re this) Selfstudier ( talk) 12:23, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
You're now the 2nd editor to accuse David Collier of "outing" or "doxxing" wikipedia editors. diff
As of yet, neither of you has provided a reference to substantiate that accusations.
Can you please do so?
-- Bob drobbs ( talk) 06:09, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
At first sight there is a catch-22: how to just justify an assertion that an external actor is engaging in doxxing without linking to the doxxing and thereby participating in it. But this is not the case: evidence about external actors can be sent in confidence to the Wikimedia Trust and Safety Committee, who can evaluate it and take action against Wikipedia editors or not at their discretion. There is no requirement to justify the assertion in public on Wikipedia. Zero talk 01:23, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
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A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:07, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Can you do anything about these two? 5 edits and no others since 23 February & 10 edits and no others since 5 May all for the same thing, pointless repetitive requests to remove the description right wing for StandWithUs, WP:NOTHERE. Selfstudier ( talk) 19:35, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
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