Thanks for your comment. I imagine you had my typesetting effort on Group action in mind; please make it clear what you refer to when you decide to leave a comment. Fixing one section takes me an hour and a half; it is a considerable amount of time but I have not come up with a smarter method to do it yet. Ideally, the math coprocessor should be fixed to produce better results in HTML mode.
Do you moderate the articles on mathematical subjects on Wikipedia? If so, please take into account that the typesetting changes were made with fingers crossed — e.g. Konqueror has problems with displaying the content. Konqueror is free software and it is likely to be fixed; AFAIK the fix is already there but I am not sure whether the fix has made it into the installer yet. I am not following that issue any more because I switched back to Windows (accidentally). Probably not.
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Your recent changes at Modular group replacing LaTex markup with HTML look awful in my browser. Also, I think the previous LaTex markup was shorter and easier for an editor to write and modify. I don't see anything at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (mathematics) about new standards for formulae mark-up - has this new style been discussed anywhere ? Gandalf61 ( talk) 14:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
@import url("/?title=User:Yecril/monobook.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css");
<math>
, and it looks much worse than my hand-crafted version). The bullets are gone as a side-effect. --
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16:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)Hi, I see you are changing ♥ to ♥ etc in various articles. Could you explain why please? Abtract ( talk) 11:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
What excuse is needed? I object to you taking this template without even an attempt at discussion with the users. Abtract ( talk) 12:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Who are you to ask such a question? Abtract ( talk) 12:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
You made no attempt to discuss this with anyone before your sweeping changes (and threatened bot), you give no rationale for wanting it or why you can't construct a template not already in use, you give no numbers of your own and you tell me the numbers for its current use are not very impressive. Personally, I don't want to use another template - find your own. Please leave ♥ alone until you have the agreement of those who use it already. Abtract ( talk) 12:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
-- Yecril ( talk) 13:04, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
And 'global' might just be a slight exageration for a wp template. Since I still have no idea what your proposed template is for or who will use it, I have no means of even considering whether it is a good idea or not ... would it be beyond all reason for you to explain it to me? Abtract ( talk) 13:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
It is completely incomprehnsible to me ... what will it do? who has asked for it? How many are likely to use it? etc Abtract ( talk) 14:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Sorry doesn't help ... there is no request there. I repeat, choose some other template, please. Abtract ( talk) 14:40, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Then don't mess about with ♥ please. Abtract ( talk) 15:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
So you are just going to ignore the fact that ♥ is in use already and hijack it for another use, with no attempt to explain why or gain consensus? Abtract ( talk) 18:07, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Please provide documentation for the undocumented template {{ Math}} which you created or are a major contributor to. — SMcCandlish [ talk] [ cont] ‹(-¿-)› 02:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
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Hi,
Please see Wikipedia: Manual of Style#Quotation marks for our guidelines on punctuation. Wikipedia does not use left and right apostrophes, so I have undone your stylistic edits to this article (and the page move). Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 22:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I agree with getting rid of inline TeX in this edit. But what is the point of the "bigmath" template? What I notice right away is:
Michael Hardy ( talk) 13:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Hiya Yecril. I had a request to archive that long section at WT:MOS that was taking up half the page on various issues involving quotation marks. After I did the manual archive, I saw that you had made a comment a few days ago on curly quotes. The section that's currently at the top of WT:MOS involves curly quotes; instead of pulling back in the really long section, I'm hoping you're okay with talking in that shorter section.
There's a lot of "fatigue" currently on the subject of curly quotes. User_talk:Greg L and User_talk:Sswonk were the guys arguing for curly quotes, but they both think it's not worth arguing about now. Obviously, nobody at WT:MOS can tell anybody else what ought to be important, or what your position ought to be; I'm just saying that my sense is, after a lot of argument on the subject, that most people (in a lot of different forums, not just at WT:MOS) are in favor of the straight quotes, for various reasons, and most people are a little tired at the moment of talking about it.
Very impressive userpage, btw. I wish I knew half the stuff you do. I used to use that "this editor uses SQL queries to find car keys" userbox, myself. - Dan Dank55 ( send/receive) 15:52, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I disagree with your move of Skewes' number to Skewes’s number. I get 2430 Google hits versus 94. Skewes' number is the established name and Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Use common names of persons and things trumps considerations about what would be grammatically best. Skewes' number also dominates 45 to 3 in Google Scholar hits. PrimeHunter ( talk) 21:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't believe there is any consensus to rename pages with possessive names to use a fancy apostrophe instead of a simple ASCII apostrophe. I wish you would stop doing such moves until you can establish such a consensus. Note that WP:NAME says "Separate accent-like and/or quote-like characters (including, but not limited to ʻ, ʾ, ʿ, ᾿, ῾, ‘, “, ’, ”, c, combining diacritical marks combined with a "space" character,...) should be avoided in page names." The goal of page names is not typographic beauty; they are just meant to be easy for naive users to type. Also, note that your edit to the manual of style was reverted. [4] — Carl ( CBM · talk) 02:18, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Please stop making these changes [5]. Various people have pointed out that the Manual of Style says to use straight apostrophes only. Also, as I pointed out on the Math MoS page, if you need to explain what the prime counting function is [6] you should do so using plain English, not via a template. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 14:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
ë
; however, it does not mean that the character ë has an
umlaut. The names chosen for HTML entities are unfortunate; the people who made these decisions lacked linguistic knowledge.Because of disagreements that have arisen in the past, Wikipedia has a general principle for stylistic changes in articles: if an article has an established style, this should not be changed unilaterally to a different style without very strong agreement to do so ( WP:MOS#Consistency). Areas where this has come up include American/British spelling , the use of binary SI units, and different styles of reference formatting . Your changes in math formatting, spelling of possessives, and curly apostrophes fit into this general principle. If wide agreement can be obtained for the changes, then by all means make them, but don't change articles without getting that agreement first. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 16:09, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that you made another math style conversion last night. I really wish you would stop making such unilateral changes until you can find some consensus for the new formatting method. It would help if you made a brief but thorough list of the advantages that you see in your new format, so that other people can assess them and come to their own decision. I'm going to ask about the new format at WT:WPM. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 12:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I am not going to learn TeX because of your like or dislike of it. You asked that I do not modify text I have not created; that is granted. If you do not want me to edit, that is, if you consider my edits unworthy vandalism, just block me. I can fix your edits; I promised not to and I shall not. I hope you can "fix" mine to your liking; I shall not revert. That is my final word on the subject, and I am not going to argue with you. If you kill my templates, I shall not recreate them; however, I shall use the expanded text (that is, when I try to add something), which will be much worse for everybody. -- Yecril ( talk) 18:07, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for your comment. I imagine you had my typesetting effort on Group action in mind; please make it clear what you refer to when you decide to leave a comment. Fixing one section takes me an hour and a half; it is a considerable amount of time but I have not come up with a smarter method to do it yet. Ideally, the math coprocessor should be fixed to produce better results in HTML mode.
Do you moderate the articles on mathematical subjects on Wikipedia? If so, please take into account that the typesetting changes were made with fingers crossed — e.g. Konqueror has problems with displaying the content. Konqueror is free software and it is likely to be fixed; AFAIK the fix is already there but I am not sure whether the fix has made it into the installer yet. I am not following that issue any more because I switched back to Windows (accidentally). Probably not.
Yecril 09:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
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Your recent changes at Modular group replacing LaTex markup with HTML look awful in my browser. Also, I think the previous LaTex markup was shorter and easier for an editor to write and modify. I don't see anything at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (mathematics) about new standards for formulae mark-up - has this new style been discussed anywhere ? Gandalf61 ( talk) 14:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
@import url("/?title=User:Yecril/monobook.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css");
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16:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)Hi, I see you are changing ♥ to ♥ etc in various articles. Could you explain why please? Abtract ( talk) 11:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
What excuse is needed? I object to you taking this template without even an attempt at discussion with the users. Abtract ( talk) 12:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Who are you to ask such a question? Abtract ( talk) 12:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
You made no attempt to discuss this with anyone before your sweeping changes (and threatened bot), you give no rationale for wanting it or why you can't construct a template not already in use, you give no numbers of your own and you tell me the numbers for its current use are not very impressive. Personally, I don't want to use another template - find your own. Please leave ♥ alone until you have the agreement of those who use it already. Abtract ( talk) 12:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
-- Yecril ( talk) 13:04, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
And 'global' might just be a slight exageration for a wp template. Since I still have no idea what your proposed template is for or who will use it, I have no means of even considering whether it is a good idea or not ... would it be beyond all reason for you to explain it to me? Abtract ( talk) 13:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
It is completely incomprehnsible to me ... what will it do? who has asked for it? How many are likely to use it? etc Abtract ( talk) 14:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Sorry doesn't help ... there is no request there. I repeat, choose some other template, please. Abtract ( talk) 14:40, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Then don't mess about with ♥ please. Abtract ( talk) 15:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
So you are just going to ignore the fact that ♥ is in use already and hijack it for another use, with no attempt to explain why or gain consensus? Abtract ( talk) 18:07, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
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Hi,
Please see Wikipedia: Manual of Style#Quotation marks for our guidelines on punctuation. Wikipedia does not use left and right apostrophes, so I have undone your stylistic edits to this article (and the page move). Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 22:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I agree with getting rid of inline TeX in this edit. But what is the point of the "bigmath" template? What I notice right away is:
Michael Hardy ( talk) 13:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Hiya Yecril. I had a request to archive that long section at WT:MOS that was taking up half the page on various issues involving quotation marks. After I did the manual archive, I saw that you had made a comment a few days ago on curly quotes. The section that's currently at the top of WT:MOS involves curly quotes; instead of pulling back in the really long section, I'm hoping you're okay with talking in that shorter section.
There's a lot of "fatigue" currently on the subject of curly quotes. User_talk:Greg L and User_talk:Sswonk were the guys arguing for curly quotes, but they both think it's not worth arguing about now. Obviously, nobody at WT:MOS can tell anybody else what ought to be important, or what your position ought to be; I'm just saying that my sense is, after a lot of argument on the subject, that most people (in a lot of different forums, not just at WT:MOS) are in favor of the straight quotes, for various reasons, and most people are a little tired at the moment of talking about it.
Very impressive userpage, btw. I wish I knew half the stuff you do. I used to use that "this editor uses SQL queries to find car keys" userbox, myself. - Dan Dank55 ( send/receive) 15:52, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I disagree with your move of Skewes' number to Skewes’s number. I get 2430 Google hits versus 94. Skewes' number is the established name and Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Use common names of persons and things trumps considerations about what would be grammatically best. Skewes' number also dominates 45 to 3 in Google Scholar hits. PrimeHunter ( talk) 21:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't believe there is any consensus to rename pages with possessive names to use a fancy apostrophe instead of a simple ASCII apostrophe. I wish you would stop doing such moves until you can establish such a consensus. Note that WP:NAME says "Separate accent-like and/or quote-like characters (including, but not limited to ʻ, ʾ, ʿ, ᾿, ῾, ‘, “, ’, ”, c, combining diacritical marks combined with a "space" character,...) should be avoided in page names." The goal of page names is not typographic beauty; they are just meant to be easy for naive users to type. Also, note that your edit to the manual of style was reverted. [4] — Carl ( CBM · talk) 02:18, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Please stop making these changes [5]. Various people have pointed out that the Manual of Style says to use straight apostrophes only. Also, as I pointed out on the Math MoS page, if you need to explain what the prime counting function is [6] you should do so using plain English, not via a template. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 14:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
ë
; however, it does not mean that the character ë has an
umlaut. The names chosen for HTML entities are unfortunate; the people who made these decisions lacked linguistic knowledge.Because of disagreements that have arisen in the past, Wikipedia has a general principle for stylistic changes in articles: if an article has an established style, this should not be changed unilaterally to a different style without very strong agreement to do so ( WP:MOS#Consistency). Areas where this has come up include American/British spelling , the use of binary SI units, and different styles of reference formatting . Your changes in math formatting, spelling of possessives, and curly apostrophes fit into this general principle. If wide agreement can be obtained for the changes, then by all means make them, but don't change articles without getting that agreement first. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 16:09, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that you made another math style conversion last night. I really wish you would stop making such unilateral changes until you can find some consensus for the new formatting method. It would help if you made a brief but thorough list of the advantages that you see in your new format, so that other people can assess them and come to their own decision. I'm going to ask about the new format at WT:WPM. — Carl ( CBM · talk) 12:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I am not going to learn TeX because of your like or dislike of it. You asked that I do not modify text I have not created; that is granted. If you do not want me to edit, that is, if you consider my edits unworthy vandalism, just block me. I can fix your edits; I promised not to and I shall not. I hope you can "fix" mine to your liking; I shall not revert. That is my final word on the subject, and I am not going to argue with you. If you kill my templates, I shall not recreate them; however, I shall use the expanded text (that is, when I try to add something), which will be much worse for everybody. -- Yecril ( talk) 18:07, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
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