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Would you allow me to remove the sub heading "This RFC is flawed" from the RfC at Talk:Gibraltar? Your point is clearly made elsewhere and the discussion flows just fine without it. As it is, other participants may not know where to add their comments. Regards, Scolaire ( talk) 13:39, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi there. You reverted my religion edit on the Falkland Islands page, which is fair enough edits aren't sacred. However you say the reference supports it, but I can find no mention in the reference to those religions, or in fact any religion, in the cited reference. The original reference at least did support the 66% Christian and 2% other, but the reference and document linked left has no mention of any religion. Can you point out what I've missed? Thanks. Canterbury Tail talk 17:32, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
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I thought that you might find it interesting to know that (according to Wikipedia:Time Between Edits), your edit to 1982 invasion of the Falkland Islands was the 890,000,000th edit to Wikipedia. Clovermoss ( talk) 17:28, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hi WCM. I just edited the Falkland Islands article based on the info you provided about the Sovereignty Dispute. I agree that the balance of information was not adequate. Could you please give it a look and (if needed) add any other clarifications or information that I may have missed. Thanks! By the way, I hope you're safe and well during these pandemic.-- MarshalN20 ✉ 🕊 18:48, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, you don't happen to know if this is on-line anywhere do you? I seem to remember having seen it at some point, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere. I'm trying to improve the Spanish articles on the events of 1833-1834 at the mo, and I thought you were likely to have an idea, if anyone does.
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My memory plays tricks, it's not in Cawkell. The reference is PRO Adm 1/2276, with another copy in PRO FO 6 500, fol. 195.
18 Male inhabitants are listed (additional notes are my own):
William Dixon
Jean Simon
Antonio Rivero
Jose Luna
Santigo Lopez (I believe that may have been a mis-spelling)
Manuel Coronel
Piedro Firmyn
Luciano Flores
Manuel Galon
Philip Phillipes
Lataro St Juan
Fautino Martinez
Piedro Allecio
Pascual Diez
Benjamin Pearson
Ant Werner (I believe that may have been a mis-spelling and refers to Anton Wagner)
William Jones
Ch Kusserler - this is probably Carl Kussler who appears on the 1837 census
Not listed by Onlsow were:
Antonina Roxa
Gregoria Madrid
Carmelita + Child
Jose Simon - Son of Jean Simon
2 x servants (names unknown)
There is a sort of copy of Pinedo's list in Fitte, La Aggresion Norteamericana a las Islas Malvinas but the reference given is incorrect. Fitte omits a fairly crucial detail in that it blurs the distinction between members of the garrison and settlers. W C M email 10:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks a million, that's really useful. I have seen the copy of Helsby's account in the Nautical Journal (I think) which is online, but the list on you link to is different to the one in the first paragraph of Helsby's text (also on wikisource). The one you linked in wikisource states at the top that it is actually Onslow's, but it's different from the list you very kindly typed out here. Do you think two versions of Onslow's list exist, or there is an attribution mistake on wikisource? Boynamedsue ( talk) 11:53, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, the point you make about language is quite pertinent. The list you copied out here is clearly written by an English speaker, as the errors in spelling are pretty clearly those an English-speaker would make (the spelling of Fermin, dropping the 's' in Faustino). Thanks again for your help. Boynamedsue ( talk) 12:35, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for mithering, I just found this, reading Coan's mentions of Rivero:
Brisbane employed the Spaniard Antook as a shoemaker, and several Mestizos and South American Indians as herdsmen, bullock-hunters, etc. Failing to pay them promptly, from lack of means, as he said, they were angry, and determined to kill him and all his friends and plunder the village. According to the plot agreed on, Antook came to the door of this room one morning while Brisbane was sitting before the stove lighted with a fire of peat, the principal fuel of these islands, and demanded pay. Brisbane refused, and immediately a bullet went through his body. He grabbed for his pistol, in a cupboard on his left, arose to fire, but staggered and fell, when he received a blow upon his head from a cutlass and three stabs from a dirk. He was then dragged to the door, his feet bound with raw-hide rope, and this being attached to the saddle of a horse, he was drawn out into the field, where he was stripped, mutilated, and left unburied. His clerk was also killed with several others at the same time, and the town was sacked, a few Englishmen escaping as before stated.
Were you aware of this? It seems very pertinent to the case. With what you know about the use of primary sources, am I justified in adding something like "However, the American missionary Titus Coan states that Rivero was employed as a shoemaker rather than a gaucho", or would that be OR? Boynamedsue ( talk) 10:48, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
I've heard of Rivero being referred to as Antook before but I doubt he was a shoemaker, Emilio Vernet's diary show him employed as a Gaucho and just about ever secondary cite bar this one. I would tend to suggest this goes down as a fringe view, given the wealth of sources that contradict it. As for non-primary sources - Cawkell in the English language, Caillet-Bois, Destefani, Fitte etc all cite that he was employed as a Gaucho. Even Mario Tesler the one academic that supports the myths surrounding Rivero says the same. That's pretty authorative. W C M email 11:54, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll follow your advice in terms of articles, especially given the weight of secondary sources. I would imagine the reality is that he was a gaucho who occasionally made shoes. -- Boynamedsue ( talk) 15:21, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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Good morning WCM. Per your revert on my edit to Rick Jolly—in fact, we do refer to people just by their surnames. MOS:SURNAME states that "After the initial mention, a person should generally be referred to by surname only, without an honorific prefix such as "Mr.", "Mrs.", "Ms.", "Miss", "Mx" (this includes academic or professional prefixes like "Dr.", "Prof.", "Rev.", etc.)". With this in mind, just using "Jolly" in the article would be correct (see also MOS:DOCTOR). I hope this makes sense, and I shall reapply the changes. Please {{ ping}} me if you want to discuss this further! Best wishes, MIDI ( talk) 08:09, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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Hello. Can I get some help pease?
How translate the name "Regimiento de Infantería Mecanizado 3" to English? "3rd Mechanized Infantry Regiment, "Mechanized Infantry Regiment 3" or "3 Mechanized Infantry Regiment"?
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Greetings, mister. Can I get some help, please? I don't know too much about the 1982 invasion operation. Here goes the question: how many combatants participate in the 2 April confrontation? The problem it's in the es-wiki article (the line starts with: "Al día siguiente aparecieron(...)"). Sorry about my english.-- Malvinero10 ( talk) 23:03, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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Would you allow me to remove the sub heading "This RFC is flawed" from the RfC at Talk:Gibraltar? Your point is clearly made elsewhere and the discussion flows just fine without it. As it is, other participants may not know where to add their comments. Regards, Scolaire ( talk) 13:39, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi there. You reverted my religion edit on the Falkland Islands page, which is fair enough edits aren't sacred. However you say the reference supports it, but I can find no mention in the reference to those religions, or in fact any religion, in the cited reference. The original reference at least did support the 66% Christian and 2% other, but the reference and document linked left has no mention of any religion. Can you point out what I've missed? Thanks. Canterbury Tail talk 17:32, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
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I thought that you might find it interesting to know that (according to Wikipedia:Time Between Edits), your edit to 1982 invasion of the Falkland Islands was the 890,000,000th edit to Wikipedia. Clovermoss ( talk) 17:28, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hi WCM. I just edited the Falkland Islands article based on the info you provided about the Sovereignty Dispute. I agree that the balance of information was not adequate. Could you please give it a look and (if needed) add any other clarifications or information that I may have missed. Thanks! By the way, I hope you're safe and well during these pandemic.-- MarshalN20 ✉ 🕊 18:48, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, you don't happen to know if this is on-line anywhere do you? I seem to remember having seen it at some point, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere. I'm trying to improve the Spanish articles on the events of 1833-1834 at the mo, and I thought you were likely to have an idea, if anyone does.
-- Boynamedsue ( talk) 07:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
My memory plays tricks, it's not in Cawkell. The reference is PRO Adm 1/2276, with another copy in PRO FO 6 500, fol. 195.
18 Male inhabitants are listed (additional notes are my own):
William Dixon
Jean Simon
Antonio Rivero
Jose Luna
Santigo Lopez (I believe that may have been a mis-spelling)
Manuel Coronel
Piedro Firmyn
Luciano Flores
Manuel Galon
Philip Phillipes
Lataro St Juan
Fautino Martinez
Piedro Allecio
Pascual Diez
Benjamin Pearson
Ant Werner (I believe that may have been a mis-spelling and refers to Anton Wagner)
William Jones
Ch Kusserler - this is probably Carl Kussler who appears on the 1837 census
Not listed by Onlsow were:
Antonina Roxa
Gregoria Madrid
Carmelita + Child
Jose Simon - Son of Jean Simon
2 x servants (names unknown)
There is a sort of copy of Pinedo's list in Fitte, La Aggresion Norteamericana a las Islas Malvinas but the reference given is incorrect. Fitte omits a fairly crucial detail in that it blurs the distinction between members of the garrison and settlers. W C M email 10:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks a million, that's really useful. I have seen the copy of Helsby's account in the Nautical Journal (I think) which is online, but the list on you link to is different to the one in the first paragraph of Helsby's text (also on wikisource). The one you linked in wikisource states at the top that it is actually Onslow's, but it's different from the list you very kindly typed out here. Do you think two versions of Onslow's list exist, or there is an attribution mistake on wikisource? Boynamedsue ( talk) 11:53, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, the point you make about language is quite pertinent. The list you copied out here is clearly written by an English speaker, as the errors in spelling are pretty clearly those an English-speaker would make (the spelling of Fermin, dropping the 's' in Faustino). Thanks again for your help. Boynamedsue ( talk) 12:35, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for mithering, I just found this, reading Coan's mentions of Rivero:
Brisbane employed the Spaniard Antook as a shoemaker, and several Mestizos and South American Indians as herdsmen, bullock-hunters, etc. Failing to pay them promptly, from lack of means, as he said, they were angry, and determined to kill him and all his friends and plunder the village. According to the plot agreed on, Antook came to the door of this room one morning while Brisbane was sitting before the stove lighted with a fire of peat, the principal fuel of these islands, and demanded pay. Brisbane refused, and immediately a bullet went through his body. He grabbed for his pistol, in a cupboard on his left, arose to fire, but staggered and fell, when he received a blow upon his head from a cutlass and three stabs from a dirk. He was then dragged to the door, his feet bound with raw-hide rope, and this being attached to the saddle of a horse, he was drawn out into the field, where he was stripped, mutilated, and left unburied. His clerk was also killed with several others at the same time, and the town was sacked, a few Englishmen escaping as before stated.
Were you aware of this? It seems very pertinent to the case. With what you know about the use of primary sources, am I justified in adding something like "However, the American missionary Titus Coan states that Rivero was employed as a shoemaker rather than a gaucho", or would that be OR? Boynamedsue ( talk) 10:48, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
I've heard of Rivero being referred to as Antook before but I doubt he was a shoemaker, Emilio Vernet's diary show him employed as a Gaucho and just about ever secondary cite bar this one. I would tend to suggest this goes down as a fringe view, given the wealth of sources that contradict it. As for non-primary sources - Cawkell in the English language, Caillet-Bois, Destefani, Fitte etc all cite that he was employed as a Gaucho. Even Mario Tesler the one academic that supports the myths surrounding Rivero says the same. That's pretty authorative. W C M email 11:54, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll follow your advice in terms of articles, especially given the weight of secondary sources. I would imagine the reality is that he was a gaucho who occasionally made shoes. -- Boynamedsue ( talk) 15:21, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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Good morning WCM. Per your revert on my edit to Rick Jolly—in fact, we do refer to people just by their surnames. MOS:SURNAME states that "After the initial mention, a person should generally be referred to by surname only, without an honorific prefix such as "Mr.", "Mrs.", "Ms.", "Miss", "Mx" (this includes academic or professional prefixes like "Dr.", "Prof.", "Rev.", etc.)". With this in mind, just using "Jolly" in the article would be correct (see also MOS:DOCTOR). I hope this makes sense, and I shall reapply the changes. Please {{ ping}} me if you want to discuss this further! Best wishes, MIDI ( talk) 08:09, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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Hello. Can I get some help pease?
How translate the name "Regimiento de Infantería Mecanizado 3" to English? "3rd Mechanized Infantry Regiment, "Mechanized Infantry Regiment 3" or "3 Mechanized Infantry Regiment"?
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Greetings, mister. Can I get some help, please? I don't know too much about the 1982 invasion operation. Here goes the question: how many combatants participate in the 2 April confrontation? The problem it's in the es-wiki article (the line starts with: "Al día siguiente aparecieron(...)"). Sorry about my english.-- Malvinero10 ( talk) 23:03, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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