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Welcome to the fourteenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
We deployed the "Guidance" feature on June 15.
This feature uses the help panel to explain what to do after selecting a suggested edit. For instance, if a newcomer selects a copyedit task, they are guided on what sorts of errors to look for. They can see examples of how to rewrite the text. You can try this feature on test.wikipedia.org. First enable the homepage and the help panel in your preferences there.
Since we launched "Guidance", the data we collected show good results (see image). Now, we see more users completing suggested edits than before Guidance was deployed.
Structured tasks is a project that aims to break down editing workflows into a series of steps. We hope newcomers can accomplish these tasks easily.
In the previous newsletter, we asked for feedback from community members on the idea. We had a good discussion in six languages with 35 community members ( summary here). We have now posted new design mockups. We hope community members can check the mockups out and react to them (in any language). They are posted along with some of the main questions we are thinking about as we continue to refine our plans.
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Hello vexations, what do you think ? /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zvi_Sever — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.253.189.248 ( talk) 15:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Welcome to the fifteenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
Variants C and D are two new arrangements of the newcomer homepage. We hope they will increase the number of users using suggested edits. They both make suggested edits the clear place where newcomers should get started on the page. They have some differences in their workflows, because we want to test which design is better. We deployed these variants on October 19; half of newcomers get each variant. After about 5 weeks, we will analyze the data from the tests. The goal is to determine which variant is helping more newcomers to make more suggested edits. We will identify the better variant and then use it with all newcomers.
As we discussed in previous newsletters, the team is working on our first "structured task": the "add a link" task. After community discussion on design ideas, we ran user tests on the mobile designs. We decided on the design concept we want to use moving forward: Concept A. We're now engineering the backend for this feature. Next, we will be running user tests for desktop designs.
Learn more about the findings.
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I must admit I'm getting a good laugh out of "disrespectful" contributions being excluded from a talk page so dedicated to ~~exposing censorship~~. Ahh well, you tried. He's entitled to his views, but if nothing else he's certainly wrong when he said that "anyone who comes here looking for something interesting is sure to be disappointed". Alyo ( chat· edits) 22:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Vexations. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Commonwealth and Council".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Vexations. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Kai Kaljo".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:18, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Vexations. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Aina Šmid".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:25, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Vexations. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Annie Nash".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:26, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Vexations. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Mare Tralla".
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:27, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
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Interesting, the Proud Boys are factually incorrectly called fascist in the first sentence on the actual page. It has been suggested Reilly would be useful to provide empirical data from his research that this group is 10-20percent people of color and not white supremacist(the domain expert language specific SLPC and ADL do not label this group white supremacist). Both points of which do not require any knowledge of fascism. Reilly's empirical work on the social grievance industry has been tested extensively and proven reliable.
Although immaterial as to whether Reilly should be used for the 10-20 percent POC and not white supremacists. the following significantly more respected than the current RS academic press being cited for the neo fascist label currently on the page, could be whom he was referring to by our if not his own assistants: /info/en/?search=Seymour_Martin_Lipset /info/en/?search=Irving_Louis_Horowitz /info/en/?search=Richard_Wolin /info/en/?search=J%C3%BCrgen_Habermas. They all refer to a form of left-wing fascism similarly as Reilly did in that quote and they are not only reliable they are noted, lauded and have contributed to their field's, academic scholars. Lipset was called "one of the most influential social scientists of the past half century". Their work has not been wholly indicted because exception was taken to their categorizing fascism or some fascism as leftist. Reilly is a lot more reliable than some of the RS currently cited on the page. RS cited on the page Vitolo-Haddad, CV is a white woman recently caught lying about being black for personal gain or is of zero trustworthiness and hence reliability.(This has been pointed out along with RS citation confirming it five times and yet she is still being cited). The ADL and SLPC are the language specific standard bearer for labeling US right wing hate groups. Any publicly held source deviating from their description of right-wing hate groups is always minority POV (the SLPC and ADL represent the informed majority) and are not reliable. SLPC and ADL work hand in hand with law enforcement, US intelligence, think tanks and government agencies. Reliability on this topic means congruence with the SLPC and ADL. They don't label this group fascist. Can we agree to not use such fringe definitions of fascism to "prove", with "logic" like (for example) fascism is defined despite said group having no stated or implied, desired or practiced dictatorial or extreme authoritarian control concerning itself, the means of local, state, national or global governance? Which is not merely unreliable it is an unheard definition of fascism beyond FRINGE. This is also as fascism is currently being defined to label this group and is taking place on the current page in the first sentence. Failure to explicitly address this factually wrong fascist label at least two dozen times on this talk page, washing it away with RS says(they are not reliable if they cannot be corroborated or conflict with the undisputed language specific domain experts) so therefore it shall be, grossly ignoring WP/BESTSOURCES is unreliable, not credible, unacceptable and intellectual destitution at its finest. 2601:46:C801:B1F0:2D92:A947:910C:C354 ( talk) 18:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
If you have a proposal for improving an article, make it at the relevant talk page and support it with citations to reliable sources. Vexations ( talk) 22:56, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Template:ArtAndFeminism2017 draft has been
nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the entry on the Templates for discussion page. --
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Can you say your opinion /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tzahi_(Zack)_Weisfeld — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.12.141.84 ( talk) 11:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
I don’t think I have much to contribute. My first thought when I read “So-and-so is a serial entrepreneur” is that the poor guy probably bought himself a Wikipedia article, but if he’s smart he bought some sources too. It’s so obviously a CV and utterly depressing that anyone would think there’s anything encyclopedic about it. Vexations ( talk) 23:07, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi ... I’m new to this and note you deleted a sentence had added on Alexis Hunter that informed of her gallery. We (trustees of her estate) and her twin sister Alyson (on WP) thought this would be essential information to any interested party as the gallery is a source of deep knowledge about the artist’s work, but your comment is ‘promotional’. Noting you are highly experienced, I’m therefore asking advice ... is there a way we can provide this information within the rules? Cheers WP WhitespacePhil ( talk) 17:22, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Vexations ... first on old websites etc, ... indeed ah.co.uk was the subject's personal site and is therefore now forever dormant.... as a recent trustee I am working to replace information there with our live trust.org site, which already has details from the defunct site I do think it’s necessary to update WP, and showing the trust as the legal ‘guardian’ of her art legacy is a good start. Perhaps the best way forward is that when more suggestions are ready after discussions with trustees/family, I ask your opinion/advice. As for the gallery, I’ll mull over what you say ... may get back to you on that too. Cheers WhitespacePhil ( talk) 18:13, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Welcome to the sixteenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
Newcomer task experiments results
The team recently published our analysis of the impact of newcomer tasks. We are happy to announce that we found that the Growth features, and particularly newcomer tasks, lead to increased editing from newcomers.
In November 2019, the Growth team added the " newcomer tasks" feature to the newcomer homepage. After six months, we collected data from Arabic, Vietnamese, Czech, and Korean Wikipedias. We analyzed the overall impact of the Growth features, including newcomer tasks.
This analysis finds that the Growth features lead to increases in:
We also find that the quality of their edits, as measured by revert rate, is comparable to that of a control group.
Because of these results, we think all Wikipedias should consider implementing these features. Learn more about how to get them.
You can find more details about this experiment on the report page. Please post any feedback or questions on the talk page
General metrics
As of November 2020, across all wikis where the features have been deployed:
Learn more about Growth results here, and please post any feedback or questions on the talk page.
Variants C and D are two new arrangements of the newcomer homepage. We deployed them in October. After six weeks of these variants being deployed, we can see that they have led to increased interactions with newcomer tasks. Next, we will determine which variant is best and use that for all newcomers.
A separate list for workshops hosts
During workshops organized by education programs through the communities, workshops hosts like to mentor people they train on wiki. Several wikis requested to have a way to claim their mentees without having other newcomers being randomly being assigned to them. To address this need, a separate list can be created on wiki, for mentors that wish to claim mentees, but prefer not to have random mentees being assigned to them. Learn more about this feature.
Claiming multiple mentees at once
Mentors can use Special:ClaimMentee to claim a newcomer as their mentee. The feature now allows mentors to claim multiple newcomers at once.
The help panel allows people to post a message to the local help desk while editing. Previously, the tool always posted messages to the bottom of help desks. Wikis are now able to configure it to display new messages at the top of the help desk page. T261714
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Hello Vexations,
It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
Rank | Username | Num reviews | Log |
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1 | DannyS712 bot III ( talk) | 67,552 | Patrol Page Curation |
2 | Rosguill ( talk) | 63,821 | Patrol Page Curation |
3 | John B123 ( talk) | 21,697 | Patrol Page Curation |
4 | Onel5969 ( talk) | 19,879 | Patrol Page Curation |
5 | JTtheOG ( talk) | 12,901 | Patrol Page Curation |
6 | Mcampany ( talk) | 9,103 | Patrol Page Curation |
7 | DragonflySixtyseven ( talk) | 6,401 | Patrol Page Curation |
8 | Mccapra ( talk) | 4,918 | Patrol Page Curation |
9 | Hughesdarren ( talk) | 4,520 | Patrol Page Curation |
10 | Utopes ( talk) | 3,958 | Patrol Page Curation |
John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.
As a special recognition and thank you DannyS712 has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.
Six Month Queue Data: Today – 2262 Low – 2232 High – 10271
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{{Old prod|2ndreason=Mythological surrealism — is author’s style and it has right to exist even if it's not global. Paintings are stored in the fund of National Museum of History of Moldova.|con=Nina Buimestru}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina Buimestru ( talk • contribs) 14:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
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Looks like you forgot to sign? [3] Just FYI. :) IHateAccounts ( talk) 22:36, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I entered the various links the first time and was told to remove them. now I am being asked to enter them again. I have inserted the sources, but I can insert other links. i insert them all at the bottom, like the link to my official participation in the cuban pavilion at the venice biennale.
all best, Desiderio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coocuyo ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Vexations I can post links to all the events, but then I get the message that it is promotional material. what can I do?
My apologies for the article mania! I’ll slow down and do a better job from now on. Best, Thriley ( talk) 18:38, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
I finally came back to my article about the artist "Golif". I hope it is okay now. Once it is on WP I will ask a native speaker to smooth out the text.
here my answer (still without feedback) from /info/en/?search=User_talk:Alex_Kowalski#January_2021 I very rarely write on Wikipedia and have never received any compensation or had any other benefit from it - not even for the recently deleted article. The article is an almost verbatim translation from the German Wikipedia, where it has never been objected to. The software has relevance - thousands of accountants work with it every day, also in the USA. I don't find it overdone in promotional language, it has many references. How can I improve it so that it is accepted? Maybe remove the links to the xsuite website?
Best Regards, Alex Alex Kowalski (talk) 21:14, 29 January 2021 (UTC) Alex Kowalski ( talk) 20:39, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Mit Hilfe digitaler Workflows für alle Prüf-, Freigabe- und Vervollständigungsschritte zielt die Unternehmenssoftware auf eine deutliche Reduzierung der Durchlaufzeit einer Rechnung.is very close paraphrasing of https://www.xsuite.com/leistungen-und-loesungen/rechnungsbearbeitung/, which says:
Mit Hilfe digitaler Workflows für alle Prüf-, Freigabe- und Vervollständigungsschritte reduzieren Sie die Durchlaufzeit einer Rechnung um mindestens 50%.Vexations ( talk) 21:17, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi , i am ShewanKara (who created page of Fatima Assad Shahin) .
In order to prove the authenticity of the flag of Kurdistan, I needed to create this page, and the only source available on this subject was this free site, the source of which I mentioned.There is only one Kurdish source in English that has been found and no longer exists.Please remove the option to delete it so that I can follow up on this issue for another ten days ShewanKara ( talk) 13:22, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
how can i know about it copyright ? ShewanKara ( talk) 13:40, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
beacuse thats free i think ShewanKara ( talk) 13:41, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
thanks > if they give me right to imporve this page > it do not will be delete ? ShewanKara ( talk) 13:43, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi Vexations, saw that you were editing on Wellendorff yesterday, while I was contributing to the Talk-Page. Would you have a look at Talk:Wellendorff and maybe review & merge the udates to the main article? Regards and greetings from Germany, -- Wedo1893 ( talk) 09:13, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
You may or may not find this one interesting. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 10:17, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Welcome to the seventeenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
Add a link: the team is continuing to engineer on our first "structured task", which will break down the workflow of adding wikilinks to articles, and assist newcomers with an algorithm to identify words and phrases that could be made into links.
Add an image: even as we build our first structured task, we have been thinking about the next one. "Add an image" is a structured task in which newcomers would be recommended images from Wikimedia Commons to add to unillustrated articles. This is an ambitious idea with many details to consider. We have already learned a lot from community members, and we encourage everyone to look at the project page and join the discussion.
Last November, our team published the analysis of the impact of newcomer tasks. We announced that we found that the Growth features, and particularly newcomer tasks, lead to increased editing from newcomers. Because of these results, we believe all Wikipedias should implement these features.
We have started to contact more wikis to deploy the features, including Wikipedias of all sizes. Bengali Wikipedia recently began using Growth features, and Danish, Thai, Indonesian, and Romanian Wikipedias will be coming soon. Please contact us if you have questions regarding deployment.
We are looking for translators who can help by translating the interface. Translating is done on Translatewiki.net (it requires a different account that your Wikimedia one). Communities that already have the Growth features being deployed are invited to check on the translations. Access translations here.
As mentioned in our previous newsletter, we ran a test of two variants of the newcomer homepage, meant to find a version that increases users completing suggested edits. We have completed the experiment, and learned that one of the variants leads to more edits on desktop while the other leads to more edits on mobile. Therefore, we will deploy the strongest variants for each platform to all newcomers.
Mentor dashboard: we have interviewed mentors from several communities as we plan a mentor dashboard feature, which would help mentors track the progress of their mentees. We encourage all mentors to share their thoughts on tools that would help them.
Magic word for mentors: it is now possible to
use a magic word, {{#mentor}}
, to display the name of a given newcomer's mentor. This can be used on welcome messages, userboxes, etc.
Help panel questions going to mentors: in most wikis, newcomers using the help panel ask questions to the help desk. On Czech Wikipedia, we have experimented with sending these questions to mentors instead. This simplifies the newcomer experience, and only led to a increase in mentorship questions of about 30%. We tried this in Arabic, Bengali, French and Vietnamese Wikipedias, and we are making it the default experience.
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Hello! I collapsed out discussion with the Gorriako sock over at the AfD. I hope that is OK. Gorriako got globally locked after a Commons CU request.--- Possibly ( talk) 20:12, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Can you explain why you flagged the sources as primary, when some of them were created by journalist that doesn't appear to be involved with Neil Krug's work and were involved in external publications. Additionally, the sourced information was written in a factual manner, and did occur as part of his career. I also added WorldCat as a source. Jacobmcpherson ( talk) 16:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC) 16:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an
edit war according to the reverts you have made on
Joseph Nechvatal. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to
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I've honestly never heard of "cyberart(s)" as a distinct field of academic or aesthetic study (aside from some commercial material related to transhumanism and possibly Burning Man projects from the 90s), but the Wiktionary definiton [5] appears to be synonymous with the other terms and is clearly a recent neologism. A single article from a French journal may a good starting point for adding content, but there have to be other reliable sources that back this up to justify an article, otherwise this data belongs somewhere like Cybernetics#In art or Cyborg#In art. See Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary#Neologisms. Are there sufficient reliable sources to justify a proper article? Mansheimer ( talk) 15:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
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Welcome to the eighteenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
" Add a link" is now being tested in production and is nearing release on our four pilot wikis (Arabic, Czech, Vietnamese, and Bengali Wikipedias). We'll be doing final tests this week and next week, and then plan to deploy to the four wikis either during May 24 week, or May 31 week. After two weeks, we will analyze the initial data to identify any problems or trends. We expect that this feature will engage new kinds of newcomers in easy and successful edits. If things are going well after four weeks, we'll progressively deploy it to the wikis with Growth features.
We are working on project to allow communities to manage the configuration of the Growth features on their own. In the past, communities have needed to work directly with the Growth team to set up and alter the features. We plan to put this capability in the hands of administrators, through an easy-to-use form, so that the features can be easily tailored to fit the needs of each community. While we developed it initially for Growth features, we think this approach could have uses in other features as well. We'll be trying this on our pilot wikis in the coming weeks, and then we'll bring it to all Growth wikis soon after. We hope you check out the project page and add any of your thoughts to the talk page.
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Archive 20 | ← | Archive 22 | Archive 23 | Archive 24 | Archive 25 | Archive 26 |
Welcome to the fourteenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
We deployed the "Guidance" feature on June 15.
This feature uses the help panel to explain what to do after selecting a suggested edit. For instance, if a newcomer selects a copyedit task, they are guided on what sorts of errors to look for. They can see examples of how to rewrite the text. You can try this feature on test.wikipedia.org. First enable the homepage and the help panel in your preferences there.
Since we launched "Guidance", the data we collected show good results (see image). Now, we see more users completing suggested edits than before Guidance was deployed.
Structured tasks is a project that aims to break down editing workflows into a series of steps. We hope newcomers can accomplish these tasks easily.
In the previous newsletter, we asked for feedback from community members on the idea. We had a good discussion in six languages with 35 community members ( summary here). We have now posted new design mockups. We hope community members can check the mockups out and react to them (in any language). They are posted along with some of the main questions we are thinking about as we continue to refine our plans.
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09:33, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Hello vexations, what do you think ? /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zvi_Sever — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.253.189.248 ( talk) 15:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Welcome to the fifteenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
Variants C and D are two new arrangements of the newcomer homepage. We hope they will increase the number of users using suggested edits. They both make suggested edits the clear place where newcomers should get started on the page. They have some differences in their workflows, because we want to test which design is better. We deployed these variants on October 19; half of newcomers get each variant. After about 5 weeks, we will analyze the data from the tests. The goal is to determine which variant is helping more newcomers to make more suggested edits. We will identify the better variant and then use it with all newcomers.
As we discussed in previous newsletters, the team is working on our first "structured task": the "add a link" task. After community discussion on design ideas, we ran user tests on the mobile designs. We decided on the design concept we want to use moving forward: Concept A. We're now engineering the backend for this feature. Next, we will be running user tests for desktop designs.
Learn more about the findings.
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10:09, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
I must admit I'm getting a good laugh out of "disrespectful" contributions being excluded from a talk page so dedicated to ~~exposing censorship~~. Ahh well, you tried. He's entitled to his views, but if nothing else he's certainly wrong when he said that "anyone who comes here looking for something interesting is sure to be disappointed". Alyo ( chat· edits) 22:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Vexations. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Commonwealth and Council".
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
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Interesting, the Proud Boys are factually incorrectly called fascist in the first sentence on the actual page. It has been suggested Reilly would be useful to provide empirical data from his research that this group is 10-20percent people of color and not white supremacist(the domain expert language specific SLPC and ADL do not label this group white supremacist). Both points of which do not require any knowledge of fascism. Reilly's empirical work on the social grievance industry has been tested extensively and proven reliable.
Although immaterial as to whether Reilly should be used for the 10-20 percent POC and not white supremacists. the following significantly more respected than the current RS academic press being cited for the neo fascist label currently on the page, could be whom he was referring to by our if not his own assistants: /info/en/?search=Seymour_Martin_Lipset /info/en/?search=Irving_Louis_Horowitz /info/en/?search=Richard_Wolin /info/en/?search=J%C3%BCrgen_Habermas. They all refer to a form of left-wing fascism similarly as Reilly did in that quote and they are not only reliable they are noted, lauded and have contributed to their field's, academic scholars. Lipset was called "one of the most influential social scientists of the past half century". Their work has not been wholly indicted because exception was taken to their categorizing fascism or some fascism as leftist. Reilly is a lot more reliable than some of the RS currently cited on the page. RS cited on the page Vitolo-Haddad, CV is a white woman recently caught lying about being black for personal gain or is of zero trustworthiness and hence reliability.(This has been pointed out along with RS citation confirming it five times and yet she is still being cited). The ADL and SLPC are the language specific standard bearer for labeling US right wing hate groups. Any publicly held source deviating from their description of right-wing hate groups is always minority POV (the SLPC and ADL represent the informed majority) and are not reliable. SLPC and ADL work hand in hand with law enforcement, US intelligence, think tanks and government agencies. Reliability on this topic means congruence with the SLPC and ADL. They don't label this group fascist. Can we agree to not use such fringe definitions of fascism to "prove", with "logic" like (for example) fascism is defined despite said group having no stated or implied, desired or practiced dictatorial or extreme authoritarian control concerning itself, the means of local, state, national or global governance? Which is not merely unreliable it is an unheard definition of fascism beyond FRINGE. This is also as fascism is currently being defined to label this group and is taking place on the current page in the first sentence. Failure to explicitly address this factually wrong fascist label at least two dozen times on this talk page, washing it away with RS says(they are not reliable if they cannot be corroborated or conflict with the undisputed language specific domain experts) so therefore it shall be, grossly ignoring WP/BESTSOURCES is unreliable, not credible, unacceptable and intellectual destitution at its finest. 2601:46:C801:B1F0:2D92:A947:910C:C354 ( talk) 18:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
If you have a proposal for improving an article, make it at the relevant talk page and support it with citations to reliable sources. Vexations ( talk) 22:56, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
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Can you say your opinion /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tzahi_(Zack)_Weisfeld — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.12.141.84 ( talk) 11:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
I don’t think I have much to contribute. My first thought when I read “So-and-so is a serial entrepreneur” is that the poor guy probably bought himself a Wikipedia article, but if he’s smart he bought some sources too. It’s so obviously a CV and utterly depressing that anyone would think there’s anything encyclopedic about it. Vexations ( talk) 23:07, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi ... I’m new to this and note you deleted a sentence had added on Alexis Hunter that informed of her gallery. We (trustees of her estate) and her twin sister Alyson (on WP) thought this would be essential information to any interested party as the gallery is a source of deep knowledge about the artist’s work, but your comment is ‘promotional’. Noting you are highly experienced, I’m therefore asking advice ... is there a way we can provide this information within the rules? Cheers WP WhitespacePhil ( talk) 17:22, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Vexations ... first on old websites etc, ... indeed ah.co.uk was the subject's personal site and is therefore now forever dormant.... as a recent trustee I am working to replace information there with our live trust.org site, which already has details from the defunct site I do think it’s necessary to update WP, and showing the trust as the legal ‘guardian’ of her art legacy is a good start. Perhaps the best way forward is that when more suggestions are ready after discussions with trustees/family, I ask your opinion/advice. As for the gallery, I’ll mull over what you say ... may get back to you on that too. Cheers WhitespacePhil ( talk) 18:13, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Welcome to the sixteenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
Newcomer task experiments results
The team recently published our analysis of the impact of newcomer tasks. We are happy to announce that we found that the Growth features, and particularly newcomer tasks, lead to increased editing from newcomers.
In November 2019, the Growth team added the " newcomer tasks" feature to the newcomer homepage. After six months, we collected data from Arabic, Vietnamese, Czech, and Korean Wikipedias. We analyzed the overall impact of the Growth features, including newcomer tasks.
This analysis finds that the Growth features lead to increases in:
We also find that the quality of their edits, as measured by revert rate, is comparable to that of a control group.
Because of these results, we think all Wikipedias should consider implementing these features. Learn more about how to get them.
You can find more details about this experiment on the report page. Please post any feedback or questions on the talk page
General metrics
As of November 2020, across all wikis where the features have been deployed:
Learn more about Growth results here, and please post any feedback or questions on the talk page.
Variants C and D are two new arrangements of the newcomer homepage. We deployed them in October. After six weeks of these variants being deployed, we can see that they have led to increased interactions with newcomer tasks. Next, we will determine which variant is best and use that for all newcomers.
A separate list for workshops hosts
During workshops organized by education programs through the communities, workshops hosts like to mentor people they train on wiki. Several wikis requested to have a way to claim their mentees without having other newcomers being randomly being assigned to them. To address this need, a separate list can be created on wiki, for mentors that wish to claim mentees, but prefer not to have random mentees being assigned to them. Learn more about this feature.
Claiming multiple mentees at once
Mentors can use Special:ClaimMentee to claim a newcomer as their mentee. The feature now allows mentors to claim multiple newcomers at once.
The help panel allows people to post a message to the local help desk while editing. Previously, the tool always posted messages to the bottom of help desks. Wikis are now able to configure it to display new messages at the top of the help desk page. T261714
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Hello Vexations,
It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
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4 | Onel5969 ( talk) | 19,879 | Patrol Page Curation |
5 | JTtheOG ( talk) | 12,901 | Patrol Page Curation |
6 | Mcampany ( talk) | 9,103 | Patrol Page Curation |
7 | DragonflySixtyseven ( talk) | 6,401 | Patrol Page Curation |
8 | Mccapra ( talk) | 4,918 | Patrol Page Curation |
9 | Hughesdarren ( talk) | 4,520 | Patrol Page Curation |
10 | Utopes ( talk) | 3,958 | Patrol Page Curation |
John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.
As a special recognition and thank you DannyS712 has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.
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{{Old prod|2ndreason=Mythological surrealism — is author’s style and it has right to exist even if it's not global. Paintings are stored in the fund of National Museum of History of Moldova.|con=Nina Buimestru}} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nina Buimestru ( talk • contribs) 14:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
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Looks like you forgot to sign? [3] Just FYI. :) IHateAccounts ( talk) 22:36, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I entered the various links the first time and was told to remove them. now I am being asked to enter them again. I have inserted the sources, but I can insert other links. i insert them all at the bottom, like the link to my official participation in the cuban pavilion at the venice biennale.
all best, Desiderio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coocuyo ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Vexations I can post links to all the events, but then I get the message that it is promotional material. what can I do?
My apologies for the article mania! I’ll slow down and do a better job from now on. Best, Thriley ( talk) 18:38, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
I finally came back to my article about the artist "Golif". I hope it is okay now. Once it is on WP I will ask a native speaker to smooth out the text.
here my answer (still without feedback) from /info/en/?search=User_talk:Alex_Kowalski#January_2021 I very rarely write on Wikipedia and have never received any compensation or had any other benefit from it - not even for the recently deleted article. The article is an almost verbatim translation from the German Wikipedia, where it has never been objected to. The software has relevance - thousands of accountants work with it every day, also in the USA. I don't find it overdone in promotional language, it has many references. How can I improve it so that it is accepted? Maybe remove the links to the xsuite website?
Best Regards, Alex Alex Kowalski (talk) 21:14, 29 January 2021 (UTC) Alex Kowalski ( talk) 20:39, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Mit Hilfe digitaler Workflows für alle Prüf-, Freigabe- und Vervollständigungsschritte zielt die Unternehmenssoftware auf eine deutliche Reduzierung der Durchlaufzeit einer Rechnung.is very close paraphrasing of https://www.xsuite.com/leistungen-und-loesungen/rechnungsbearbeitung/, which says:
Mit Hilfe digitaler Workflows für alle Prüf-, Freigabe- und Vervollständigungsschritte reduzieren Sie die Durchlaufzeit einer Rechnung um mindestens 50%.Vexations ( talk) 21:17, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi , i am ShewanKara (who created page of Fatima Assad Shahin) .
In order to prove the authenticity of the flag of Kurdistan, I needed to create this page, and the only source available on this subject was this free site, the source of which I mentioned.There is only one Kurdish source in English that has been found and no longer exists.Please remove the option to delete it so that I can follow up on this issue for another ten days ShewanKara ( talk) 13:22, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
how can i know about it copyright ? ShewanKara ( talk) 13:40, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
beacuse thats free i think ShewanKara ( talk) 13:41, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
thanks > if they give me right to imporve this page > it do not will be delete ? ShewanKara ( talk) 13:43, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi Vexations, saw that you were editing on Wellendorff yesterday, while I was contributing to the Talk-Page. Would you have a look at Talk:Wellendorff and maybe review & merge the udates to the main article? Regards and greetings from Germany, -- Wedo1893 ( talk) 09:13, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
You may or may not find this one interesting. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 10:17, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Welcome to the seventeenth newsletter from the Growth team!
The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.
Add a link: the team is continuing to engineer on our first "structured task", which will break down the workflow of adding wikilinks to articles, and assist newcomers with an algorithm to identify words and phrases that could be made into links.
Add an image: even as we build our first structured task, we have been thinking about the next one. "Add an image" is a structured task in which newcomers would be recommended images from Wikimedia Commons to add to unillustrated articles. This is an ambitious idea with many details to consider. We have already learned a lot from community members, and we encourage everyone to look at the project page and join the discussion.
Last November, our team published the analysis of the impact of newcomer tasks. We announced that we found that the Growth features, and particularly newcomer tasks, lead to increased editing from newcomers. Because of these results, we believe all Wikipedias should implement these features.
We have started to contact more wikis to deploy the features, including Wikipedias of all sizes. Bengali Wikipedia recently began using Growth features, and Danish, Thai, Indonesian, and Romanian Wikipedias will be coming soon. Please contact us if you have questions regarding deployment.
We are looking for translators who can help by translating the interface. Translating is done on Translatewiki.net (it requires a different account that your Wikimedia one). Communities that already have the Growth features being deployed are invited to check on the translations. Access translations here.
As mentioned in our previous newsletter, we ran a test of two variants of the newcomer homepage, meant to find a version that increases users completing suggested edits. We have completed the experiment, and learned that one of the variants leads to more edits on desktop while the other leads to more edits on mobile. Therefore, we will deploy the strongest variants for each platform to all newcomers.
Mentor dashboard: we have interviewed mentors from several communities as we plan a mentor dashboard feature, which would help mentors track the progress of their mentees. We encourage all mentors to share their thoughts on tools that would help them.
Magic word for mentors: it is now possible to
use a magic word, {{#mentor}}
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Help panel questions going to mentors: in most wikis, newcomers using the help panel ask questions to the help desk. On Czech Wikipedia, we have experimented with sending these questions to mentors instead. This simplifies the newcomer experience, and only led to a increase in mentorship questions of about 30%. We tried this in Arabic, Bengali, French and Vietnamese Wikipedias, and we are making it the default experience.
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Hello! I collapsed out discussion with the Gorriako sock over at the AfD. I hope that is OK. Gorriako got globally locked after a Commons CU request.--- Possibly ( talk) 20:12, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Can you explain why you flagged the sources as primary, when some of them were created by journalist that doesn't appear to be involved with Neil Krug's work and were involved in external publications. Additionally, the sourced information was written in a factual manner, and did occur as part of his career. I also added WorldCat as a source. Jacobmcpherson ( talk) 16:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC) 16:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
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I've honestly never heard of "cyberart(s)" as a distinct field of academic or aesthetic study (aside from some commercial material related to transhumanism and possibly Burning Man projects from the 90s), but the Wiktionary definiton [5] appears to be synonymous with the other terms and is clearly a recent neologism. A single article from a French journal may a good starting point for adding content, but there have to be other reliable sources that back this up to justify an article, otherwise this data belongs somewhere like Cybernetics#In art or Cyborg#In art. See Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a dictionary#Neologisms. Are there sufficient reliable sources to justify a proper article? Mansheimer ( talk) 15:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
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Welcome to the eighteenth newsletter from the Growth team!
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" Add a link" is now being tested in production and is nearing release on our four pilot wikis (Arabic, Czech, Vietnamese, and Bengali Wikipedias). We'll be doing final tests this week and next week, and then plan to deploy to the four wikis either during May 24 week, or May 31 week. After two weeks, we will analyze the initial data to identify any problems or trends. We expect that this feature will engage new kinds of newcomers in easy and successful edits. If things are going well after four weeks, we'll progressively deploy it to the wikis with Growth features.
We are working on project to allow communities to manage the configuration of the Growth features on their own. In the past, communities have needed to work directly with the Growth team to set up and alter the features. We plan to put this capability in the hands of administrators, through an easy-to-use form, so that the features can be easily tailored to fit the needs of each community. While we developed it initially for Growth features, we think this approach could have uses in other features as well. We'll be trying this on our pilot wikis in the coming weeks, and then we'll bring it to all Growth wikis soon after. We hope you check out the project page and add any of your thoughts to the talk page.
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