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of course I meant Facebook! Thank you for pointing that out. SIX submissions from a paid editor! On my book that is four too many! 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes it becomes a big time sink when they don't have the competence. Theroadislong ( talk) 08:44, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

The whole draft is a mess! A slew of lists. I am for rejection at the next incompetent submission. She is being paid! 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Gawd! Have a look at my talk page! 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes I did chuckle! Theroadislong ( talk) 08:55, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

I used the TLA "FMS" whose second word is "me" and third is "sideways" 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 08:58, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Timtrent Interestingly the user Karinvanderlaag has their own VERY poorly sourced article here Karin Van Der Laag created by blocked user User:Gihan Jayaweera. Theroadislong ( talk) 09:16, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

I suggest further UPE, possible socks 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:18, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Now at AfD 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Heavens, it is getting worse! 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 09:41, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Im writing you as well since it's importent for me.. can you please have a look at the sources... below is a short summry since maybe due to the sources being in Hebrew it wasnt clear they are independent as well as many of them are significanty on Benjamin Freidenberg himself only... below are 5 examples, if you need more, I can add: 1. Hebrew University - one of the top 3 uni' in Israel, very independent 2. Yad Vashem - Please read about it, couldnt be more independent 3. globes - One of the top 3 news websites in Israel, also very independent 4. bezalel - ezalel Academy of Arts and Design Jerusalem 5. taufilmfest - this is Tel-Aviv International Student Film Festival, very major in Israel. Please have a look.. this is 2nd declined and I did add sources following the first. Thank you, Li-reg ( talk) 21:04, 20 May 2024 (UTC).

I shall remove bold lettering - thanks for the tip Nigel PG Dale 12:40, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

That has been done Nigel PG Dale 08:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I have edited the draft for the article "Valentina Gomez" to follow your request. PeaRidge62 ( talk) 17:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

@ PeaRidge62. ( talk page watcher)  Declined as failing (still and for the foreseeable future), WP:NPOLITICIAN, WP:BIO. If doing the same thing gives you the same results I suggest changing the thing. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I have been editing the draft constantly, not "doing the same thing." It clearly satisfies WP:NPOLITICIAN through WP:GNG. WP:NPOLITICIAN states that "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline." The general notability guideline ( WP:GNG) says, "A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The draft of that article satisfies those requirements. PeaRidge62 ( talk) 22:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Valentina Gomez was rejected by another reviewer this morning so there is nothing further you can do. Theroadislong ( talk) 06:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Shengyongchoo ( talk · contribs)
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Hi! Thank you for reviewing the draft. I believe I have enough reliable sources, albeit in Vietnamese, to consider this article to be notable, so how can I make my article more notable? May I also know where in the article might sound like advertising, to my knowledge most of the information under "Important Milestones" have been provided with references from a reputable source. All in all, I'm asking how I may improve on this article. Thanks a lot!

Shengyongchoo ( talk) 02:05, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Your draft begins with a spam link and reads like a prospectus, we only report on what reliable, independent sources say about a topic, do you have a conflict on interest here? Theroadislong ( talk) 06:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi! I have corrected the spam link, however I am unsure how it sounds like a prospectus. To my understanding, this draft talks about the founding, history and current state of the company. Yes, I do have a conflict of interest here, but I have tried writing it in a neutral POV.

If you have any other comments please do tell me. Thanks! Shengyongchoo ( talk) 07:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi! My apologies if this is the wrong place to bring it - you recently rejected a draft, Draft:Collegiate Model United Nations Society, India, and the editor responsible promptly created an identical draft with a slightly different name, Draft:Collegiate Model United Nations Society. I don't think this hits the requirements for salting, but there also seems to be no reason to waste further AFC time and effort with a draft that isn't being improved and presumably cannot be improved. Is there somewhere I should take this for attention, or is bringing it to you a suitable response? Thanks and hope you're having a good day! StartGrammarTime ( talk) 08:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not an admin so all I can do is decline or reject! Theroadislong ( talk) 08:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough! For some reason I was convinced you were one...sorry to bother you, I'll go find an admin! StartGrammarTime ( talk) 01:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello! You recently declined my submission at Draft:History of the Milwaukee Bucks. I understand that a similar topic exists in the full Milwaukee Bucks article, but is there any way I could extend this article so it meets Wikipedia guidelines? If not, I will abandon the draft, and try and add necessary citations to the full article. Also, other team history articles exist with less detail and less citations, so should those be merged as well?

Thanks, Awhellnawr123214 ( talk) 23:20, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

I wonder if it might be advisable to start a discussion at Talk:Milwaukee Bucks and depending on the outcome you could re-submit? Theroadislong ( talk) 06:12, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

I have attached all the available sources on this notable figure. Any suggestions how I can improve to make it published. Rrpriyam ( talk) 11:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Goodreads and spam links to purchase his books are NOT suitable sources, if that is all you have then he is not notable in Wikipedia terms. Theroadislong ( talk) 12:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for paring it down. I felt it was going no further, but that I believed him to be notable. The community is always better than those in any way involved with an article. I believe him to be the correct side of the border, with some of the article showing that 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 15:49, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

No worries, you just had me Googling "correct side of the birder" thought it might be a colloquial expression ;) Theroadislong ( talk) 15:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

I have been known to trype rather than type! 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 15:56, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

• Zengoldenstate ( talk · contribs)
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The subject of the page I created is a general election contender in the race to replace Adam Schiff in Congress. How is this not a qualification for coverage when his opponent has coverage? He is only given passing mentions in articles because it is presumed he will not win, however, it was presumed he would not win the Primary election, which he did, against 15 other candidates. Multiple news sources were provided, local and national (LA Times, New York Times, Fox News, Yahoo) detailing the fact that this guy came out of nowhere and could now represent Hollywood, West Hollywood, Burbank, Beverly Hills, and more in Congress. Close to 30 sources were provided, and all were reliable and secondary, and independent of the subject. In the interest of fairness, and transparency, shouldn't both candidates in elections have pages people can come to in order to assess their worthiness? Zengoldenstate ( talk) 17:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Candidates don't usually pass WP:NPOLITICIAN, you can ask for other opinions at The Teahouse though if you wish. Theroadislong ( talk) 17:37, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

@ Zengoldenstate ( talk page watcher) candidates are not considered notable. Please read WP:NPOL. Unfair? Perhaps, but the are not suitable for Wikipedia 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 17:37, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello @ Theroadislong,

I have edited the introduction in the article Draft:Aziz Amoura to be more neutral toned according to your comment. I would be grateful if you can point out any other sections of the article that require further editing to sound more dry/neutral. Would appreciate your advice, thanks. JoHisAmm20 ( talk) 15:27, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Non neutral terms include "prominent Jordanian artist", " a leading figure ", " artistic journey" "prominent artists" "A dedicated teacher," " international acclaim"

Hi,

I've made significant improvements to the page Draft:Jason Pine, rewriting the article in a neutral tone and including proper references.

Thank you for checking it again. Artistic Research ( talk) 19:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@ Artisticresearch don't post messages on multiple reviewer's talk pages asking them to review a draft. You've posted a request for Qcne, who rejected the draft, so they will take look. S0091 ( talk) 19:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

You have incorrectly restored a label. Things have been clarified in the talk page. Please cancel that tag. /info/en/?search=Talk:Maria-Ana_Tupan 2A02:2F08:EB08:8B00:E59A:F0E:D9BA:A532 ( talk) 13:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Have a nice day! 82.78.49.235 ( talk) 17:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Karin van der Laag played the LEAD role of MAGGIE WEBSTER in Isidingo for 12 years for SABC 3 under ENDEMOL the biggest television producer in the country.

Please google TV SA and IMDB and please look at every title sequence from 1998 til 2010 to see who is featured and who bills as lead actors before making the assertion that Karin van der Laag was one of the small parts in Isidingo.

Do your research, esteemed editor Karinvanderlaag ( talk) 11:20, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

The article about you was deleted after a week long community discussion here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karin Van Der Laag, you had every opportunity to comment, IMDb is NOT a reliable source for anything so cannot be used to establish any notability. Theroadislong ( talk) 13:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

You may be unaware of this talk page. I choose to make no comment despite inaccuracies. YMMV. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 15:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey, i have made a draft of Draft:Aamir_Naik with reliable sources of Indian news Media, so hiw can yiu clearly say it is not suitable. Please check carefully its about an actor who done many roles in Bollywood films Kamarrrr ( talk) 06:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

The draft consists of one sentence and the subject does not seem to meet our standards for notable actors. Theroadislong ( talk) 07:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello @ Theroadislong,

I have tried to be neutral with the article Draft:Nicholas Omonuk and was hoping to hear from you if the language is abit neutral now. Kindly advice please.

Clare Nassanga ( talk) 06:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

You still have two paragraphs of unsourced puffery in the "Achievements in Activism' section. Theroadislong ( talk) 06:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

@ Clare Nassanga ( talk page watcher) However, you have created a list of stuff. Articles are not lists, they are fair, continuous prose. I am sure you will solve this as well. 🇺🇦  Fiddle^Timtrent  Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 06:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @ Theroadislong for this advise. I have edited the article again. I kindly request you to look though if its better now. Clare Nassanga ( talk) 21:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

I wanted to let you know that I updated the draft page for Jason Pickleman with new citations and made the following clearer to establish notability:

Pickleman received awards from the The Society of Typographic Arts, the James Beard Foundation, the Museum of Contemporary Photography, and others.

He received features from Atlas Obscura, Chicago magazine, Chicago Gallery News, Chicago Sun-Times, Chicago Tribune, DNAinfo Chicago, Hyperallergic, Newcity, the New York Times, and Time Out Chicago.

And has work included in significant collections such as the Art Institute of Chicago, Columbia College Chicago, and theNate.

Thanks for your work! Archndesign ( talk) 02:37, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Please do not revert maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Maria-Ana Tupan. If you violate the revert rule, you break the wikipedia rules. Any user without a conflict of interest may remove a maintenance template if the issue has been resolved by someone else. You can ask an administrator about this aspect.

The issue has NOT been resolved, you have a conflict of interest and should use the talk page to suggest edits. Theroadislong ( talk) 06:51, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Theroadislong, I think you meant to reply to a different user. I have not made any edits to a page related to Maria-Ana Tupan. Thanks again for your work on Wikipedia. Archndesign ( talk) 21:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't know what edit of mine you are referring to sorry? Theroadislong ( talk) 21:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Archndesign Oh I see now [1] the edit was made by a user who is now blocked it had nothing to do with you. Theroadislong ( talk) 21:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Understood. Archndesign ( talk) 22:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Sajad Hussain Malik (Volleyball) is ready for article, please check if there is any mistake Kamarrrr ( talk) 05:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Sorry I avoid reviewing drafts about sports people, the relevant criteria can be found at WP:NSPORTS. Theroadislong ( talk) 07:32, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey there! Reaching out because you rejected my draft a while back and then made a a comment on it last month about the sourcing. Since then I reviewed all of the sourcing very thoroughly, made necessary edits, and took out the IMDB source completely. It's been several months since re-submission, are you able to take a look? Maybe even feedback so that it goes through for sure next time around. Livvin1 ( talk) 20:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi there! You said that the article was "blatant promotion" and I would like some advice on how to write an article that does not fall under the qualifications of "blatant promotion" if that is possible. Testinganaccount1 and I are just interns working on this project and we would really appreciate advice on how to build this article in a fair and balanced way. Phoenix219 ( talk) 21:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

You are being paid to edit, I suggest you spend a few months editing here, to learn how Wikipedia works, you will get little help from volunteers. Theroadislong ( talk) 21:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

I left a message on Phillip Jeong article as follows;

The article has a Notability tag now. I saw some fierce discussions on similar issues in other articles. He has three albums with Universal Music (Decca): a participation album, Feel in Duo album, and a full album as Miraclass. I was going to write a separate article for Miraclass and therefore excluded Jeong's work with the group from his own article. Would elaborating on his group activities help address the notability issue? The crossover market in Korea is substantial, and many singers from the TV program Phantom Singer are recruited as musical actors in Korea. The stage musical market size is comparable to the so-called K-pop market, at about 25% of that of Broadway. Two of the Miraclass members are prominent figures in the Korean musical market. While these points may not directly prove his notability, consider that he has three Decca albums and performs in Hong Kong, which is outside Korea.

Please let me know what to do. Rosuacamus ( talk) 12:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

The article Phillip Jeong doesn't mention Decca records are his own records released on this label? The article is so poorly written and stuffed full of irrelevant tables it is hard to establish notability. Theroadislong ( talk) 12:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

I included three Universal Music (Decca) albums.

1. Participation album: https://library.cedarparktexas.gov/Hoopla/12378801
2. Feel in Duo single: https://music.apple.com/kr/album/feelin/1457825078
3. Feel in Duo album: https://music.apple.com/kr/album/feelin/1457825078

I left out the Miraclass album in the article

1. Miraclass album: https://music.apple.com/kr/album/romantica/1438366360

If you think these are enough to address the notability issue, I will clean up the content of the article. Rosuacamus ( talk) 13:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed that you have done some really good work on keeping paid promotion (potentially disruptive) editors on the Piece by Piece (2024 film) page from blatantly promoting the company which they are interning for. Thank you for this. Something similar is happening with The Lego Movie (franchise) page, where an IP editor is claiming (numerous times) that the franchise which Warner Bros. Pictures separately owns is the same as Universal's upcoming movie biopic which we've been editing, and a (planned) one. Sources indicate that this is not the case and that Universal is using its own characters for the planned film, and that Piece by Piece does not exist in the same continuity as the franchise.

Can you help in having The Lego Movie (franchise) protected for now? Thank you for your work on this subject as a whole. I hope we get to interact on Wikipedia much more! With much love, BarntToust ( talk) 17:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

It's simple to request page protection here Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Theroadislong ( talk) 18:21, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello @ Theroadislong, I noticed that you have marked my above-mentioned works as too promotional and deleted some passages. Probably not least because they are paid entries, which I have declared on my user page. I have tried to use sober, factual language in the articles, to provide sufficient sources (although some facts cannot be found in independent sources, but only in the business report or on the website of the described institution itself) and, at least for the entries on Martino Poggio and Swiss Nanoscience Institute, to use the “articles for creation” process (which I was not yet familiar with for Anaxam) to ensure that the entries meet the requirements. In the case of the Anaxam article, I had just discussed it a few days earlier with another admin who had flagged the article and confirmed to me that, on closer inspection, it was OK after all. I will be able to provide some further independent sources, as this deficit was critiziced on the German entry as well and I was able to find some more appropriate sources. What else can I do to meet your requirements? Or is that not possible as a paid user? -- J. Berndorff ( talk) 12:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

You are a remarkable editor in many ways. You would be a good administrator, in my opinion, and appear to be well qualified. You personify an administrator without tools and have gained my support already!

Maliner ( talk) 15:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

The road is indeed long, but we’ve come to the right end of it. What you waiting for!? Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 21:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

This is incredible what I was looking for. @ User:Theroadislong is someone I used to take as an admin. You're already established and godly in all you do especially at AFC and help desk. Have my support dearest. Safari Scribe ^{Edits! Talk!} 21:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

+1 I'm honestly surprised you aren't an admin already. '''[[ User:CanonNi]]''' ( talk • contribs) 10:20, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Aww guys...you're making me blush. I'm just back from a four day walking holiday around the coast of Cornwall, I will give the suggestion some thought as always. Theroadislong ( talk) 07:33, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

🤗 Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 07:36, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Its me Alragon. I want to say that yes you made a mistake i was going to cite it and according to my information that information is 100% correct. Because I live here, furthermore there are citations that are in other language to i am trying to translate it too. Alragon1 ( talk) 08:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Then please add the relevant citations rather than edit warring. Theroadislong ( talk) 08:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

did it I added an article there are various articles for that exact same thing.

Regards! Alragon1 ( talk) 08:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests

How much time could it take for technical moves? Alragon1 ( talk) 08:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

HI, can you tell me what is Wikipedia commons as i got a notification but i am not able to open it? Alragon1 ( talk) 08:48, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

@ Alragon1 Hi there. You mean Wikimedia Commons, it is actually a repository of media files that can be used on all Wikimedia projects. You might want to read Wikimedia Commons for more information. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 13:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Already added citations please don't undo it.. Alragon1 ( talk) 14:25, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm afraid that your style of writing is not suitable in places for an encyclopaedia, “He was the individual who had the esteemed privilege of being the first to receive the honor of pledging allegiance to Shah Fakhar-u-Din” and “To his followers he was venerated by the honorific title 'Qibla Alam', signifying an elevated spiritual status within the Islamic mystical tradition” and “Maulana Fakhruddin's remarkable benevolence deeply moved him” is NOT neutral tone. Theroadislong ( talk) 14:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

ok you want me to make this article nuetral right? I'll make sure to do it. Alragon1 ( talk) 14:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Did anyone objected? Do you know him? Alragon1 ( talk) 14:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I didn't write that article that i cited. Alragon1 ( talk) 14:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I never said tht you did, ALL content should be written in your own words though referring to the source but NOT copying it. Theroadislong ( talk) 14:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

ok boss got it. Alragon1 ( talk) 14:46, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Each time I try to insert the proper citation, the cite inserts a different one. which has nothing to do with my text. Here is the one I want to insert:SSC-MS-00282, Sophia Smith Collection, Mary Conway Kohler, Biographical Note, Smith College, Northampton, MA: See full Biographical Note. Henrybardklein ( talk) 18:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I cannot see any relevant edits of yours, where are you doing this? Theroadislong ( talk) 18:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, can you review the sources of this article and confirm whether it is accepted or rejected Draft:Mohamed Aarab DRsabire ( talk) 12:24, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

He doesn't appear to pass WP:NSINGER but as I can't read Arabic I will leave it for another reviewer. Theroadislong ( talk) 12:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

I have been waiting for more than 15 days. I think it is a long time, and everyone ignores it. This is how I see it DRsabire ( talk) 12:32, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Ok I have reviewed it... he totally fails the criteria at WP:NMUSICIAN so I have declined it. Theroadislong ( talk) 12:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

I think that reputable sources that talk about his artistic works have been added, and some of them have also been added. Where is the problem? DRsabire ( talk) 12:40, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Take a look from another perspective DRsabire ( talk) 12:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

You are free to re-submit, I will not review again. Theroadislong ( talk) 12:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

I have resubmitted. Thank you for the initial comment DRsabire ( talk) 12:46, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Can you review it again? DRsabire ( talk) 12:49, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Really? The result will be the same! Theroadislong ( talk) 13:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, you can review the sources for this article. Sources have been added in English and French. You can verify it and accept or reject it. Draft:Draganov (musician) DRsabire ( talk) 14:21, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

With regards to your service, dear friend, I created a page about the Iranian actor and composer Mr. Javad Nazari Shekarchi with the title Javad Nazari Shekarchi, which was transferred by your Excellency to the draft:Javad Nazari Shekarchi I have fixed a lot and added other reliable sources such as library and news sources and now this page has more than 110 reliable and live sources, so please transfer it to the main page, thank you very much ناتاشام ( talk) 09:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

You need to submit your draft Draft:Javad Nazari Shekarchi for review but be aware of WP:CITEBOMBING a LARGE number of your sources are absolutely NOT reliable or independent, such as Google search, IMDB, factburger.com, Spotify, www.wikidata.org, Peliplat, Binged, mycast etc etc etc. Theroadislong ( talk) 09:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Very well, I have nothing more to say, and I will neither edit nor give sources, when out of the 116 available sources, according to your word, all of them are of poor quality, so I will not take your time, nor tire myself unnecessarily, I will only serve you one issue. I would like to say that in many articles in Wikipedia, the same sources that are of poor quality are cited in your opinion, I don't know why the same high-quality sources are introduced at that time, but in the article I wrote, they are introduced as low-quality, in any case, I am very, very sorry. I want to take your precious time, you can delete the article in question or do as you see fit. Good luck and God bless you. ناتاشام ( talk) 11:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

See other stuff exists, you need to submit the draft for review or it will just be deleted after 6 months. I am not an admin I cannot delete anything. An article should only require 3 high quality sources to be accepted, but if you are not willing to share them I can do nothing else for you. Theroadislong ( talk) 11:45, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Do you think that the ,QueryString:'javad%20nazari',ResultSize:-1,ScenarioCode:DEFAULT,ScenarioDisplayMode:display-vignet,SearchContext:0,SearchGridFieldsShownOnResultsDTO:!((Id:134,Label:'Exemplaires%20disponibles')),SearchLabel:,SearchTerms:'Authority_id_idx%202989516',SortField:!n,TemplateParams:(Scenario:,Scope:Default,Size:!n,Source:,Support:,UseCompact:!f),UseSpellChecking:!n),sst:4) National Library of France, Web News, and the Internet Archive, and ,QueryString:'Javad%20Nazari',ResultSize:-1,ScenarioCode:DEFAULT,ScenarioDisplayMode:display-standard,SearchContext:0,SearchGridFieldsShownOnResultsDTO:!(),SearchLabel:,SearchTerms:'Javad%20Nazari',SortField:!n,TemplateParams:(Scenario:,Scope:Default,Size:!n,Source:,Support:,UseCompact:!f),UseSpellChecking:!n),sst:4) Library montpellier3m, all of which are mentioned in the article as sources, are sufficient?

That they exist, you can confirm, and if necessary, the rest of the sources can be removed. Tanks ناتاشام ( talk) 23:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello again, dear friend, I deleted many resources, there were about 28 resources left, which in my opinion were necessary, please take a look once more, so that if the problem has been fixed, I will send it again for evaluation, thank you very much. ناتاشام ( talk) 00:19, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Oh my God, I looked now and saw that I didn't pay attention to the template and deleted one of your comments in the article When I was deleting the sources, this happened. Unfortunately, I apologize. ناتاشام ( talk) 00:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

(Courtesy ping @ Oliwiasocz) I've noticed your decline there. I think you might have been confused - while Treblinka extermination camp is much more famous, that article seems to concern a different entity, which has separate articles on pl and de wiki ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15106709). See also Draft:Treblinka labor camp#Name (read about Treblinka I). And in the extermination camp article, search for "Treblinka I" - it is even explained in the lead (the extermination camp is Treblinka II and it explains how it is different from Treblinka I: " Treblinka I was a forced-labour camp (Arbeitslager) ... The second camp, Treblinka II, was an extermination camp (Vernichtungslager)"). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello @ Theroadislong I very much appreciate your thoughtful input to my article on the artist Bonnie Rychlak. I have spent a significant amount of time doing further research and addressing your concerns. I either eliminated the texts that you identified as problematic as original research or included the full citation from the original source. I added a number of sources that underscore the subject's notability both as an artist and as a curator/author. I would appreciate it if you would take another look and let me know if my revisions have successfully met the terms for publication. Also, would it be possible to remove the comments at the top of the draft that have been resolved? I know there is a concerted effort to increase the representation of female artists on Wikipedia, and I sincerely hope to continue doing so as I encounter the work of artists like Bonnie Rychlak who I believe merit a place on this platform. Thank you! Gaw54 ( talk) 17:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

There is still a lot of inappropriate tone (ie. she has advanced the use of wax in sculpture to new levels of appreciation) and too many quotes, but I will leave it for another reviewer, the comments are removed after acceptance not before. Theroadislong ( talk) 17:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Your resistance to seeing the notability of this subject is baffling to me. Bonnie Rychlak's significance as both an artist AND a scholar is reflected on the most basic level in the fact that she appears in several other Wikipedia pages (see what links here). Doesn't the fact that she is one of the most preeminent scholars on Isamu Noguchi--a major artist of the 20th century--in and of itself put to rest the question of notability?

As an art historian, I have long appreciated Rychlak's scholarship on Noguchi and drawn on it more than once in my own teaching and research. I was subsequently introduced to her work as an artist in a collaborative exhibition she mounted with another artist, Jeanne Silverthorne. While Silverthorne has established a more visible artistic career, Rychlak's own artistic practice and reputation is on par with her colleague. Indeed, the fact that an entire exhibition catalogue exists dedicated to the two artists written by Terrie Sultan, a significant curator and scholar of contemporary art as recognized on Wikipedia, would unquestionably establish her notability to anyone with an awareness of the landscape of contemporary art in the U.S.

I could go on. But I hope you get my drift. Rather than standing on shaky ground questioning the notability of someone in a field in which you are clearly not qualified to judge, I think it would be far more productive if you could provide specific and constructive editorial advice. Calling sources "trivial" is insulting. Do you have any awareness of the reputation of some of the critics who have taken note of Rychlak's work? Perhaps you should Google some of them. Or simply accept the assessment of another reviewer who found the article of value and move on.

I thought the idea here was to encourage rather than discourage new contributors to Wikipedia. At this point, I have little appetite to further contribute my professional knowledge to a forum where I am beaten down at every turn and where my own professional assessment is questioned. Gaw54 ( talk) 03:26, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Gaw54 Apologies I thought the notability hinged on the importance of the work in public collections and these were not linked, I have linked two, another has no source. I have removed the tag. Theroadislong ( talk) 07:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Gaw54 ( talk) 11:28, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I have a printed book about all the different versions of VW campers, which has an extensive section on Devons. Haha I know that's really old fashioned! Flamingopinkbathroom ( talk) 17:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Books are absolutely fine as a reference, sources do not need to be online. Theroadislong ( talk) 17:26, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Can you please direct me. I can no longer locate my draft Henrybardklein ( talk) 20:31, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

It's here Draft:Mary Conway Kohler it hasn't moved? Theroadislong ( talk) 20:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

please give me examples of what is inappropriate for Wiki Henrybardklein ( talk) 19:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

There is virtually no useable content there, the style is chatty magazine article not the dry neutral referenced tone Wikipedia requires. Theroadislong ( talk) 20:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for reviewing the piece about Judge Kohler. - Can you give examples of what is inappropriate. Henrybardklein ( talk) 20:26, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I found it. Henrybardklein ( talk) 21:00, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Greetings and best regards, my dear friend, according to your instructions in the draft:Javad Nazari Shekarchi, I removed the extra links and brought the number of sources to about 17 sources. If it is possible for your Excellency, review it again and if there is no problem, please let me click the review option and send it. Thank you for your effortsefforts ناتاشام ( talk) 14:38, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

"Excellency"? I am not royalty I am just a mere editor like you, you need to submit the draft for review I won't review it a second time, I will leave it for another reviewer. Theroadislong ( talk) 16:19, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, dear friend, I did not mean to be bold, in my opinion, all human beings are equal and equal, so considering that human beings are the best of creations, I consider all human beings to be excellent and good. ناتاشام ( talk) 18:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Greetings and regards again, dear friend, I have again sent the article for review according to your order. You can either review it yourself or refer someone else to review it. Thank you. ناتاشام ( talk) 09:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

In my draft I see 'Generation of the 1950s.[self-published source?]' which is clearly not a self-pulished but a retrived eternal source published by an independent authority. Please explain. TrevorGlynLocke ( talk) 12:41, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

TrevorGlynLocke I didn't add that tag but [2] is clearly written by Carol Leeming so would be deemed self published presumably and is not a reliable independent source. Theroadislong ( talk) 12:46, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

It can esaily take it off; no problem. TrevorGlynLocke ( talk) 13:21, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Dear @ Theroadislong,

I am writing to request the retrieval of links that were recently removed from the Foodhub Wikipedia page. The links in question were not spam but were, in fact, original business links directly associated with Foodhub. Reference : [3] https://foodhubforbusiness.com/nz/our-organisation Reference: [4] https://global.foodhub.com/

As a food delivery company, it is crucial for our Wikipedia page to provide accurate and comprehensive information, including authentic business links that users can refer to. Similar companies, such as Just Eat, have included their global business links on their Wikipedia pages, ( Just Eat) and we believe that Foodhub should be afforded the same opportunity to ensure our page is as informative and helpful as possible.

The links that were removed provided valuable information about our services and operations, contributing to a fuller understanding of our company for Wikipedia users.

I have noticed some outdated information and would like to update the content to ensure accuracy and relevance.

I understand the importance of maintaining Wikipedia's standards for verifiability and neutrality, and I assure you that any edits I make will adhere to these guidelines. I am committed to providing reliable sources to support the changes.

I kindly request that these links be reinstated to maintain the integrity and completeness of the Foodhub Wikipedia page. Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your positive response. Best regards, Ruthisabellafh ( talk) 03:58, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Article created by me named Lovekesh Kataria who is a popular youtuber and a contester of popular OTT show Bigg Boss. I have cited all the relevant articles despite you rejected my request. Kindly respect labour of other, if there was some error you might have improved it. Kindly publish it Sumanrsb2 ( talk) 07:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Being popular is not a criteria of WP:GNG. The Times of India is not a reliable source and their own website is not an independent source. Theroadislong ( talk) 07:25, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Theroadislong,

A couple months ago you commented on the draft Cindy Ji Hye Kim page, saying it appeared to meet notability requirements but needed to be unprotected to be approved. The page has been unprotected. Is there anything I can do to get the page approved?

Thank you for your help. Diaeinsofa ( talk) 01:52, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done Theroadislong ( talk) 06:07, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Diaeinsofa ( talk) 11:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, my very first article was (almost immediately) rejected in early April. I learned and understand why and believe the objections were addressed. The article is Draft:Gibbs Gardens . It is now sitting for review and approval. Perhaps it is just a matter of time but am not certain. Since you were among those to provide initial feedback, I am hoping you can now provide further input. Is it a matter of time because of the article backlog or is there some other specific roadblock?

Your insight is appreciated.

Gardendcs ( talk) 16:44, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

@ Theroadislong

Dear editor,

Thanks for all your valuable comments. I have modified the article "The Alexander Silberman Institute of Life sciences" ( Draft:Alexander Silberman Institute of Life Sciences) accordingly, and below I provide a point-by-point summary of the changes I introduced.

I added to my user profile (/info/en/?search=User:Biochen123) an unequivocal statement that I am not getting paid for writing this article (and also not for writing other articles on specific researchers). I believe the amount of time that took me to respond to your comments is an evidence to this fact, as I would have been much quicker had I been paid for this work.

I carefully went through Wikipedia articles of renowned institutes, and made sure I adhere to the same standards. I added a section entitled ‘Notable achievements’, to match a similar heading (‘Innovations’) in the article on Harvard Medical School. Whereas the Harvard article cites in this section their own website (which is less compatible with Wikipedia policies), I referred to specific peer-reviewed published papers. I only referred to highly-cited papers published in high-impact journals.

The section ‘Study programs’ was heavily modified and shortened, to match the style of Yale School of Medicine. You have raised a concern that this section only uses self-citations. However, similar to Yale, we now cite the study program page of the Hebrew University (not of our Institute), which is the only available source that provides a deep description of the study programs in the Institute.

I have also invested much effort in citing independent resources to the information I provide. As you can see, the article now includes numerous references to JSTOR articles, specific award websites, other Wikipedia articles etc. In addition, in the section ‘Notable members’ I included specific references to the ‘best scholars’ portion of the Research.com website, which lists leading scholars in various fields: “The 3rd edition of Research.com ranking of the best researchers in various disciplines relies on data consolidated from a wide range of data sources including OpenAlex and CrossRef. The bibliometric data for devising the citation-based metrics were gathered on 21-11-2023. Position in the ranking is based on a scientist's D-index (Discipline H-index), which only includes publications and citation values for an examined discipline.”

I hope you would find that the current version of the article adheres to the standards of Wikipedia. It is written from a neutral point of view, and refers to a range of independent, reliable and published resources.

Best,

Biochen123 Biochen123 ( talk) 11:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Alexander Silberman Institute of Life Sciences now suffers from WP:REFBOMBING I will leave it for another reviewer should you re-submit. Theroadislong ( talk) 11:35, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

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Hello This is my first time on here and I don't have much of a clue! But the reason I wrote an article about Devon VW campers, is that there's an article about Holdsworths, which are nowhere near as well known or common. Holdsworth Motorhomes I just wondered why that one was ok and mine isn't? Flamingopinkbathroom ( talk) 17:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

See other poor quality articles exist, Holdsworth Motorhomes is so bad it could probably be deleted. Theroadislong ( talk) 17:25, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

( talk page stalker) Hi there Flamingopinkbathroom, (your username quite got me, hehe). This is not Theroadislong, it’s one of his talk page watchers. So, I see the article you mentioned and would tell you from an experienced editor perspective that the article in itself isn’t even in good standing, it is having several statements that are unsourced and unverified, that is, we do not know where whoever created that article got the information from. So, that page is not even one to use as a guide or example, and by the way, because Wikipedia has an article about something that is closely related to another thing doesn’t mean Wikipedia should also have an article about that other thing. In a nutshell, whatever statement you make in any article, our verifiability policy requires you to reference a source that will clearly support/verify that statement. I hope this helps you understand why the article you created was declined. (Oops, just saw Theroadislong reply you :)) Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 17:26, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

https://imgur.com/a/EZCeLCj

There's a link to the offending bathroom suite! I got it second hand off eBay, bathrooms not quite finished yet, it's been a traumatic DIY journey. Flamingopinkbathroom ( talk) 12:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Theroadislong!

I am about to submit my article, pending Mr. ColinFine's answers to my questions on notability, reliability and independence :).

I have not yet mastered the procedure for "tagging". Kindly bear with me on this ;). Where do I get the tags? Which part of the draft do I insert the tags relevant to my topic and how do I go about inserting them?

Thanking you in advance Theroadislong :)! I look forward to your pleasant but helpful reply ;).

Warm regards,

Eleni Eleniofillyria ( talk) 17:55, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean by "not yet mastered the procedure for tagging" ? Theroadislong ( talk) 17:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi there Theroadislong!

In the ATC template you sent me, there was some mention -- at the bottom -- of "tagging" your submitted article with the relevant tags to facilitate the approval process by the editors & moderators.

I am trying to finish the draft for formal submission to the editors, but it seems your colleague, Mr. ColinFine, and I are still debating whether my sources fulfill the Wikipedia guidelines of "notability, independence, and reliability".

I am perplexed up to now! But I stand firm on my facts that my sources fulfill the guidelines.

What can you recommend Theroadislong to break this impasse? Do you have a governing body here in Wikipedia wherein we can submit/elevate cases like these when the editors/mods cannot agree on the next step to do :O?

Looking forward to your friendly advice. I thank you in advance for your help!

Eleni Eleniofillyria ( talk) 06:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

There is no "impasse" and there are no "mods" here or "governing body"? You haven't even submitted Draft:Emeline Paat-Dahlstrom for review yet? Theroadislong ( talk) 07:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)