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Hi. Thanks for the reviewing List of aviation shootdowns and accidents during the Iraq War. It took me a while but I finished almost all of the issues you raised. Can you give a second look, please? Thanks! -- Magioladitis ( talk) 00:43, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
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Good going! You got on the board with your first 25 "Did you know?" entries. You placed, and the encyclopedia wins! Binksternet ( talk) 20:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC) |
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For placing second in the May 2010 Military history WikiProject Contest with 120 points from 20 entries, I am delighted to present you with The Writer's Barnstar. Well done! Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 01:11, 3 June 2010 (UTC) |
Here's the dilemma behind adding a slew of new citations, is that the only authoritative and reputable source is my own book on the project. That's considered a huge no-no in Wikiwonderland. However, if you would like to assist in validating the quotes and factual details if I send you the pertinent verbatim sections, it can be done. FWiW Bzuk ( talk) 02:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC).
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With Eurocopter's resignation (see editorial below), this month marks the end of his tenure as a project coordinator. Eurocopter has been with the team for almost three years now and will be sorely missed, but he has taken the tough decision that his real life commitments have unfortunately made it too hard for him to focus on his coordinator duties. We wish him good luck in the future, both in real life and on-wiki. Efforts to redesign The Bugle are moving forward and it is our intention to roll out a new format, based on the Signpost, for next month's issue. We hope that this will allow us to provide better coverage of the project's news by allowing more room to expand on the stories we bring to you. If you have any comments or suggestions on what we can do to improve coverage, please let us know. —your IX Coordinator Tranche, May 2010 |
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For those of you who might not know me, I'm Eurocopter. I served as a coordinator of the Military history WikiProject from August 2007 until few days ago, when I decided to resign due to real life issues making it impossible for me to continue to perform project duties on a regular basis. Reflecting on my experience and activities within the project, I decided to write this editorial to set out a few thoughts and offer some advice to interested members. First of all, what does project coordination mean and how does it help the Military history WikiProject? Although the coordinators do not have any real executive powers, they play an important role in project management. To make editing contributions easier for our members we establish guidelines, manage Peer and A-Class reviews, and consult and assist when needed. The primary goal of the coordination team has always been to stimulate the development of quality articles and, once they have been developed, to facilitate maintaining them at a high standard for as long as possible. This has been carried out through the organization of a considerable number of assessment drives, contests and special projects. However, there is still much to be done to make the project one of the best and most active wiki-communities. Coordinator involvement in trying to achieve this, as the central promoters of any activity undertaken within the project, is more than important; the coordination team should stand as an example of civilised and constructive cooperation. Perhaps the most annoying issue—unfortunately quite widespread through the pages of Wikipedia—is POV-dominated conflict. While such a phenomenon might seem inevitable in a community within which hundreds of members of different nationalities with different historical and political views interact, it doesn’t mean we should accept it. The ability to neutrally mediate such conflicts is an important and desirable coordinator function. Secondly, but most importantly in my opinion, is the question of how the project enables editors to contribute effectively. Perhaps you already know how difficult it is to take an article to the highest quality levels such as A-Class or featured status. It is even harder to do this working alone. I believe the best thing the Military history WikiProject has done is to bring together groups of editors with similar interests. As there are very few editors skilled in all the diverse article development areas, you might feel the need for help from editors more experienced in, for example, advanced copy editing, image editing etc. To this end the project provides task forces and special projects where members should always feel encouraged to ask questions, discuss, debate and give advice. Such cooperation is the best way to create properly balanced articles and to establish a neutral point of view. Our Style guide and Academy are also useful in guiding you along the path of writing an article. A final, but vital, part of the collaborative article writing process is editor behaviour when interacting with other editors who are contributing to the same article. Even on those occasions where an editor upsets you or allows their personal opinions to influence their editing, always remain calm, civil and try to reach an agreement. Contributing to Wikipedia is something most of us do as a hobby; time spent in useless conflicts is precious editing time wasted. All in all, the Military history WikiProject is a good meeting point for milhist-interested editors, both beginners and advanced, with someone always there to give help and advice when needed. I wish to thank all my fellow coordinators and project members who keep this beautiful community running. I will certainly miss it! Best regards and happy wiki-editing! Eurocopter ( talk) 20:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
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I agree with your statements about the replacebility of the image and have removed the rfu tag from the image. However, their remains another issue with this image. The use of fair use images in lists such as List of military aircraft of the United States is generally discouraged, per WP:NFLISTS. I've moved the image to the main article for the aircraft, at Windecker E-5, and re-directed the fair use rationale on the image to that article. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 15:10, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
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First you attained 25 DYK creations and expansions, now you achieve 25 nominations. Ni-i-ice. Thanks for bringing others' articles to light! Binksternet ( talk) 03:08, 19 June 2010 (UTC) |
BR, two days ago, I raised the question at Talk:LTV L45ØF#Designation on the use of the "Ø" in the designation of the L45ØF. Usually at this point I'd just make the move myself based on the sources given in the post, but since we have a good working relationship, I'm making sure you know the post is there. Could you please comment? Thanks. - BilCat ( talk) 18:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
The article has been blitzed by Moldovan and Romanian IPs. The ordinary "he's OUR man" nationalist stuff. They may actually be right but totally unreferenced ("my" version was sourced to a web page written by G.B.'s only biographer and published on the Academy of Sciences website, but who knows...). Cheers, East of Borschov 13:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
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I don't know if you've noticed, but I've started a review of this article at Talk:Avro Canada CF-103/GA1-- Sturmvogel 66 ( talk) 22:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Where did you disappear to? :-/ Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 14:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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The Military history WikiProject coordinator election has started. You are cordially invited to help pick fourteen new coordinators from a pool of twenty candidates. This time round, the term has increased from six to twelve months so it is doubly important that you have your say! Please cast your vote here no later than 23:59 (UTC) on Tuesday, 28 September 2010.
With many thanks in advance for your participation from the coordinator team, Roger Davies talk 19:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I see that you have removed three categories ( [1]) from the above article. Could you explain why you did this, since this was a pusher aircraft and there are others in the same category. To my mind this is not an improvement to the article, since anyone interested in e.g. pusher aircraft will not be able to find this aircraft. Feel free to reply here, since I'll watch this page. Thanks.-- TraceyR ( talk) 12:18, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
It looked kind of black when it was flying away from me. I'm glad you like my pics of the Pithlachascotee River, I've got more images from FL 52, Grand Boulevard, and Main Street, than what I've posted, but a few locations were difficult for me to get, like Madison Street, Rowan Road and Little Road. I think I could get the one from Little Road if I park at one of the shopping centers nearby. ---- DanTD ( talk) 17:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I am sure you watch it but I have just raised a question at WP:AIRCRAFT on some of the new categories that you have created recently, thanks. MilborneOne ( talk) 21:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Dear Bushranger,
I thought the cit. I needed about the XC-123A having engines from the B-47 line was in one 1962 publication, but it wasn't. But I found something else I had missed on the XC-123A. I think it is one of the piles of Air Enthusiasts I have stacked against the wall, but I am looking. But I knew a USAF captain involved in the early days of Operation Ranch Hand and he filled me in on the engines and rational for the XC-123A, but I can't cite. beer talk, can we. <GRIN> But if you get a chance check the TALK page on the C-123. I am hunting for the reference and hope to be able do it legal soon. But the statement that the XC-123A was in consideration as a rough field tactical transport is not true. And that photo in Popular Science I found was just sheer luck. Jack --
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Unfortunately due to system security I am unable to use the wikipedia login. Is there any reason other than failure to login that all edits today on the Sea Control Ship article were deleted. You should notice that most of the content on that page was authored by me at times that I was unable to log in. I appreciate you choosing to use the no nonsense approach so if there is any reason for me to not revert the page back to my edits please leave notice in the Sea Control Ship talk page since my working IP address changes, otherwise I will replace my edits at some undefined time after 24 hours.
Hi, I've responded to your comment at DYK, but I'm afraid I don't really understand sorry. Camw ( talk) 01:16, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi bushranger. I've put my money where my mouth is and written the H.III article. would you care to assess it for B-class? Petebutt ( talk) 20:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for finding that ref - you are fast! - Ahunt ( talk) 01:29, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
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Hi. Thanks for the reviewing List of aviation shootdowns and accidents during the Iraq War. It took me a while but I finished almost all of the issues you raised. Can you give a second look, please? Thanks! -- Magioladitis ( talk) 00:43, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
The 25 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal | ||
Good going! You got on the board with your first 25 "Did you know?" entries. You placed, and the encyclopedia wins! Binksternet ( talk) 20:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC) |
The Writer's Barnstar | ||
For placing second in the May 2010 Military history WikiProject Contest with 120 points from 20 entries, I am delighted to present you with The Writer's Barnstar. Well done! Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 01:11, 3 June 2010 (UTC) |
Here's the dilemma behind adding a slew of new citations, is that the only authoritative and reputable source is my own book on the project. That's considered a huge no-no in Wikiwonderland. However, if you would like to assist in validating the quotes and factual details if I send you the pertinent verbatim sections, it can be done. FWiW Bzuk ( talk) 02:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC).
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With Eurocopter's resignation (see editorial below), this month marks the end of his tenure as a project coordinator. Eurocopter has been with the team for almost three years now and will be sorely missed, but he has taken the tough decision that his real life commitments have unfortunately made it too hard for him to focus on his coordinator duties. We wish him good luck in the future, both in real life and on-wiki. Efforts to redesign The Bugle are moving forward and it is our intention to roll out a new format, based on the Signpost, for next month's issue. We hope that this will allow us to provide better coverage of the project's news by allowing more room to expand on the stories we bring to you. If you have any comments or suggestions on what we can do to improve coverage, please let us know. —your IX Coordinator Tranche, May 2010 |
New featured articles:
New featured lists: New A-Class articles: | ||
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For those of you who might not know me, I'm Eurocopter. I served as a coordinator of the Military history WikiProject from August 2007 until few days ago, when I decided to resign due to real life issues making it impossible for me to continue to perform project duties on a regular basis. Reflecting on my experience and activities within the project, I decided to write this editorial to set out a few thoughts and offer some advice to interested members. First of all, what does project coordination mean and how does it help the Military history WikiProject? Although the coordinators do not have any real executive powers, they play an important role in project management. To make editing contributions easier for our members we establish guidelines, manage Peer and A-Class reviews, and consult and assist when needed. The primary goal of the coordination team has always been to stimulate the development of quality articles and, once they have been developed, to facilitate maintaining them at a high standard for as long as possible. This has been carried out through the organization of a considerable number of assessment drives, contests and special projects. However, there is still much to be done to make the project one of the best and most active wiki-communities. Coordinator involvement in trying to achieve this, as the central promoters of any activity undertaken within the project, is more than important; the coordination team should stand as an example of civilised and constructive cooperation. Perhaps the most annoying issue—unfortunately quite widespread through the pages of Wikipedia—is POV-dominated conflict. While such a phenomenon might seem inevitable in a community within which hundreds of members of different nationalities with different historical and political views interact, it doesn’t mean we should accept it. The ability to neutrally mediate such conflicts is an important and desirable coordinator function. Secondly, but most importantly in my opinion, is the question of how the project enables editors to contribute effectively. Perhaps you already know how difficult it is to take an article to the highest quality levels such as A-Class or featured status. It is even harder to do this working alone. I believe the best thing the Military history WikiProject has done is to bring together groups of editors with similar interests. As there are very few editors skilled in all the diverse article development areas, you might feel the need for help from editors more experienced in, for example, advanced copy editing, image editing etc. To this end the project provides task forces and special projects where members should always feel encouraged to ask questions, discuss, debate and give advice. Such cooperation is the best way to create properly balanced articles and to establish a neutral point of view. Our Style guide and Academy are also useful in guiding you along the path of writing an article. A final, but vital, part of the collaborative article writing process is editor behaviour when interacting with other editors who are contributing to the same article. Even on those occasions where an editor upsets you or allows their personal opinions to influence their editing, always remain calm, civil and try to reach an agreement. Contributing to Wikipedia is something most of us do as a hobby; time spent in useless conflicts is precious editing time wasted. All in all, the Military history WikiProject is a good meeting point for milhist-interested editors, both beginners and advanced, with someone always there to give help and advice when needed. I wish to thank all my fellow coordinators and project members who keep this beautiful community running. I will certainly miss it! Best regards and happy wiki-editing! Eurocopter ( talk) 20:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
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I agree with your statements about the replacebility of the image and have removed the rfu tag from the image. However, their remains another issue with this image. The use of fair use images in lists such as List of military aircraft of the United States is generally discouraged, per WP:NFLISTS. I've moved the image to the main article for the aircraft, at Windecker E-5, and re-directed the fair use rationale on the image to that article. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 15:10, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
The 25 DYK Nomination Medal | ||
First you attained 25 DYK creations and expansions, now you achieve 25 nominations. Ni-i-ice. Thanks for bringing others' articles to light! Binksternet ( talk) 03:08, 19 June 2010 (UTC) |
BR, two days ago, I raised the question at Talk:LTV L45ØF#Designation on the use of the "Ø" in the designation of the L45ØF. Usually at this point I'd just make the move myself based on the sources given in the post, but since we have a good working relationship, I'm making sure you know the post is there. Could you please comment? Thanks. - BilCat ( talk) 18:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
The article has been blitzed by Moldovan and Romanian IPs. The ordinary "he's OUR man" nationalist stuff. They may actually be right but totally unreferenced ("my" version was sourced to a web page written by G.B.'s only biographer and published on the Academy of Sciences website, but who knows...). Cheers, East of Borschov 13:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
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I don't know if you've noticed, but I've started a review of this article at Talk:Avro Canada CF-103/GA1-- Sturmvogel 66 ( talk) 22:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Where did you disappear to? :-/ Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 14:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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The WikiChevrons | ||
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A recap of the month's new Featured and A-Class articles, including a new featured sound |
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The Military history WikiProject coordinator election has started. You are cordially invited to help pick fourteen new coordinators from a pool of twenty candidates. This time round, the term has increased from six to twelve months so it is doubly important that you have your say! Please cast your vote here no later than 23:59 (UTC) on Tuesday, 28 September 2010.
With many thanks in advance for your participation from the coordinator team, Roger Davies talk 19:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I see that you have removed three categories ( [1]) from the above article. Could you explain why you did this, since this was a pusher aircraft and there are others in the same category. To my mind this is not an improvement to the article, since anyone interested in e.g. pusher aircraft will not be able to find this aircraft. Feel free to reply here, since I'll watch this page. Thanks.-- TraceyR ( talk) 12:18, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
It looked kind of black when it was flying away from me. I'm glad you like my pics of the Pithlachascotee River, I've got more images from FL 52, Grand Boulevard, and Main Street, than what I've posted, but a few locations were difficult for me to get, like Madison Street, Rowan Road and Little Road. I think I could get the one from Little Road if I park at one of the shopping centers nearby. ---- DanTD ( talk) 17:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I am sure you watch it but I have just raised a question at WP:AIRCRAFT on some of the new categories that you have created recently, thanks. MilborneOne ( talk) 21:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Dear Bushranger,
I thought the cit. I needed about the XC-123A having engines from the B-47 line was in one 1962 publication, but it wasn't. But I found something else I had missed on the XC-123A. I think it is one of the piles of Air Enthusiasts I have stacked against the wall, but I am looking. But I knew a USAF captain involved in the early days of Operation Ranch Hand and he filled me in on the engines and rational for the XC-123A, but I can't cite. beer talk, can we. <GRIN> But if you get a chance check the TALK page on the C-123. I am hunting for the reference and hope to be able do it legal soon. But the statement that the XC-123A was in consideration as a rough field tactical transport is not true. And that photo in Popular Science I found was just sheer luck. Jack --
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Unfortunately due to system security I am unable to use the wikipedia login. Is there any reason other than failure to login that all edits today on the Sea Control Ship article were deleted. You should notice that most of the content on that page was authored by me at times that I was unable to log in. I appreciate you choosing to use the no nonsense approach so if there is any reason for me to not revert the page back to my edits please leave notice in the Sea Control Ship talk page since my working IP address changes, otherwise I will replace my edits at some undefined time after 24 hours.
Hi, I've responded to your comment at DYK, but I'm afraid I don't really understand sorry. Camw ( talk) 01:16, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi bushranger. I've put my money where my mouth is and written the H.III article. would you care to assess it for B-class? Petebutt ( talk) 20:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for finding that ref - you are fast! - Ahunt ( talk) 01:29, 31 October 2010 (UTC)