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Many thanks for the removal of AfD here - I can't think why it was proposed. Roy Bateman ( talk) 02:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
We shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking that because people are notable now, they always were. When Ed Sheeran was deleted in Nov 2006, he would have been 15 years old. The text of the article was:
“ | Ed Sheeran was born in 1991 and lives in Suffolk, UK. He first picked up a guitar in 2002 and soon after wrote his first song, Typical Average. He has written over 30 songs since then.
In March 2005, Ed recorded his first professional CD The Orange Room EP, which features five songs. In April 2005, he played his first solo gig and in June his music was played on the radio for the first time. Ed has been inspired by great teachers, including the American guitarist Preston Reed, the jazz guitarist Keith Krykant, the singer-songwriter Charity Quin, the opera singer Claire Weston and the singing tutor Richard Charlton. In October 2005, Ed started recording his debut album at Din Studios in London. The album is now available. It has been produced by Julian Simmons, who has recently worked with the Guillemots. The album features 12 new songs and a bonus track. Various outstanding musicians have helped Ed on the album including Jack Pollitt (drums), Jonny Bridgwood (bass) Fiona Brice (violin), Helen Rathbone (cello) and Martin Hay (synthesiser). The rap artist Alonestar sings on one track and Ed's cousin, the talented young Irish singer-songwriter Laura Sheeran, sings on various tracks. Another of Ed's cousins, Hannah Sheeran, plays the clarinet and sings. Ed is managed by his parents' company Sheeran Lock Ltd Ed has made a video for his song Open Your Ears with Bruizer Productions. The set featured the spray-painting work of two of the UK's leading street artists, Graham Dews and Gwen Liby. The video has been put on Ed's My Space and You Tube as well as the home page of his website. |
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It was a correct A7 deletion IMO. Indeed the current article (created in Jan 11) only has two sentences in the section "Music Career" that pre-date 2008... WJBscribe (talk) 11:50, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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SoWhy, I am wondering what the process is supposed to be here. I was just about to comment on the AfD for Syed Ali Raza Usama, and while I was searching for sources I edit-conflicted with you closing the AfD as delete. Given my comment below that I intended to post, would you have considered relisting instead? Sorry, I've never had this happen before. — Insert CleverPhrase Here 08:15, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello,
I noticed you deleted the article mentioned above due to its lack of notability. That being said, I have worked on a draft of this article on my sandbox and have provided sources with it. May I have your permission to please recreate the article? Hitcher vs. Candyman ( talk) 01:19, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
How do you feel about Wikipedia:Requests for bureaucratship/SoWhy 2? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 13:22, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
you know me: I'm happy to serve the community in any way I can and if you are willing to risk your good name nominating me, I'm willing to offer my services.
I'd seriously consider it. You often stand out for being calm and sensible. And if I've asked you the same thing twice (senility is fast approaching), I must have been on the right track twice. So here are some questions to suss this out:
-- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 14:34, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
That's reassuring stuff. Anyone you got in mind you'd like to co-nom (or maybe nom instead of me?)? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 15:14, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
The link at the top of this section has gone blue. Your turn to start answering questions and then transclude. Feel free to take your time, there's no rush. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 14:12, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
The personal life issues I allude to on my user talk may be about to explode. When they do, I'll be offwiki for a week. Would it be OK with you to pause? Sorry to be annoying, but this is serious stuff and I can't do a thing about it. I wouldn't want to abandon a nominee through the course of things. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 19:36, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I came here for something else (see below), but does anybody mind if I throw a co-nomination on the pile? Or do people think I have done enough RfX nominations already this year and should just pipe down for the duration? In particular, I was thinking of pulling together some facts and figures for how many RfAs you've been involved with, how many candidates you've put forward, and how many of those RfAs have had your vote match consensus. I would offer to sort out the transclusion too, but I still feel rather guilty about GAB's RfA going full steam ahead without Dweller getting so much a chance to write a co-nomination statement, so it would be completely unfair to do that again. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:29, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Tentatively back. No objections to any co-nom you approve of, SoWhy. Want to go live? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 12:04, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
My situation is fluid and at some point, I will disappear for a week or more, but it's unpredictable when that will happen and life needs to go on. Let's do it. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 12:26, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
I know you are taking a bit of a pounding at the moment, but I hope you will not withdraw. Seeing your calm and professional demeanor throughout the RfB so far and your willingness to answer questions at length has reassured me that I made the right decision in supporting your candidacy regardless of how it turns out. I am disappointed that you have encountered so much opposition, but that's life, I suppose. Your work is valued here regardless. 28bytes ( talk) 03:55, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
A belated note of thanks for the very kind suggestion you made at my talk page earlier this week. I've been traveling for work this week (you and I are in the same profession, it appears) and your message was the only thing that salvaged an exhausting, discouraging trip! You prompted me to give the idea serious consideration, and after a close review of relevant guidelines, I think it's a little too early for me. These are the two areas where I see myself falling short: (a) I have no content creation to speak of; my efforts here have been almost entirely in the realm of copyediting gnomery and anti-vandalism (with a bit of anti-copyvio work thrown in); and (b) I am far too lacking in knowledge of the necessary technical (i.e. coding-type) fine points. But, now I know all this! And perhaps we can revisit this idea in about six months.
Again, Herzlichen Dank; your opinion counts for a lot with me and I'm grateful that you took the time to share it. Take care! - Julietdeltalima (talk) 20:52, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
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produce the same output). As long as you keep on being willing to learn new things and are careful (using the preview button before using syntax you never used before for example), you will do fine.Hi SoWhy,
It's pretty clear that my proposal to expand A7 is failing miserably and with your in-depth analysis of the examples I gave to Ritchie333 I have concluded that it's time to withdraw it. Your precise application of policy at the discussion has swayed me from neutral to support in your RfB by the way!
Thanks,
DrStrauss talk 22:19, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
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For the most graceful RfX candidacy I have ever seen, you deserve this. TonyBallioni ( talk) 02:11, 30 July 2017 (UTC) |
I just wanted to say, regardless of how the RfB goes, I think you could be an asset to the community as an ArbCom member or trustee, so I hope you run. A campaign for one of those roles, even if unsuccessful, could help draw attention to some excellent essays you have written. 172.56.2.106 ( talk) 00:22, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2017).
Hello SoWhy, your RfB has closed without a consensus to promote being reached. Thank you for actively participating, many editors praised your ability as administrator and I hope you continue to support the project in that role. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 12:51, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
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That was a real shame. For a time it looked as though we'd be welcoming you as the newest bureaucrat, which would have been awesome; I grew increasingly disappointed as your RfB crept towards yellow and then into the red. At least we'll still have your service to Wikipedia and I'm pleased to see that you've not decided to pack it in - I'm glad. :) I'm delighted I had the chance to support you, SoWhy - delighted indeed. Acalamari 01:20, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy,
Thank you for your assistance with closing discussions at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion; there certainly is a backlog over there that needs some attention, and I'm trying to find some to close as a "non-admin". Anyways, you may or may not know this, but if you cold, when you close or relist the final discussion on a day/subpage, could you please also remove the subpage's tranclusion on Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion (as I did here)? Thanks! Steel1943 ( talk) 22:42, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Not an accusation, but re. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mujahida Hussain Bibi , but it's curious how long the software takes to catch up on itself...? — fortuna velut luna 14:26, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Unsure if this is built into XfDCloser or if XfDCloser uses Twinkle (haven't yet played with the former), but regarding this sort of delinking, please try not to simply delink all instances without checking to see if it would instead be more productive to simply remove mention. Delinking an item in a list that requires entries to have Wikipedia articles just makes it harder to find problematic entries in those lists. When still linked, it's possible for me to use "what links here" to see where it may need to be removed. In this case, list of hip hop artists is on my watchlist and I saw the delink so could just finish the task, but if that artist were delinked from other lists, I'd have to now either search for "SD" (not a very productive search) or hunt through your contribs. Changing from red to blacktext also makes it harder to visually spot inappropriate entries in a list. In short -- and I realize this is more of a problem that I have with Twinkle, etc. than with its users (although everyone is responsible to make sure a semi-automated edit is an improvement before saving) -- I really think it's better not to delink deleted articles in lists (as opposed to in prose), since in the vast majority of cases it's more appropriate to remove and delinking makes that harder. Thanks for reading to the end of my rant :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:10, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy,
I have found a source which proves the notability of the author DJ Flash. The book is called Ego Trip's Book of Rap Lists ( https://www.amazon.com/Ego-Trips-Book-Rap-Lists/dp/0312242980/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1500200452&sr=1-1&keywords=rap%20lists). Click on look inside, then type in the search DJ Flash (I believe it's on page 33).
Yours,
Hrvoje Grahovac — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westcoast1978 ( talk • contribs) 19:56, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy,
DJ Flash here. I understand your reason for deleting the DJ Flash Page. I also Agree with Duffbeerforme When he said it was "An over the top mess of promotion, original research and dud sources" For that I take full responsibility. And I respect the hard work & dedication all of you put into keeping Wikipedia as a reliable source of information. The 10 + years "DJ Flash" was listed in wikipedia have allowed me the opportunity to reconnect with so many friends & colleagues that before the advent of the internet & wikipedia, I had no hopes of ever reconnecting. Although i retained my name DJ Flash (i was only a DJ for a few short years 1979-83) before becoming a Record Producer & Label Owner. the Page/Article focused on the Body Of Works I leave behind as a Record Producer. I admit i am not knowledgeable in all the rules of creating an article or Page. But i thank the many contributors & editors who have contributed to the page over the years. I will continue to donate funds to wikipedia & will always support your good works. Looking Back I wish the page could have been Saved, Edited and Sourced better. But i will live with your decision. When I began my career their were only 2 Flash's ..Grand Master Flash on the East Coast & DJ Flash on the West Coast ... Now i notice their are 100's of DJ Flash's from all over the world. If their is any way possible to recreate an edited version of the Page i would be most appreciative for your guidance & instruction & if not ... I will respect your decision ... Kindest Regards .. DJ Flash ' Djflash 1957 06:13, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank You for your quick reply
I will make a wholehearted attempt to provide reliable sources. As i read Wikipedia's "Criteria For Musicians and Ensembles" (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theater groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.
(If This Category Includes Record Producers Please consider this Link From Billboard Mag. Regarding an Album Concieved, Compiled & Produced by DJ flash) ( https://books.google.com/books?id=YQgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA112&dq=dr+dre+concrete+roots+billboard&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLwtGzk6LVAhXJ7IMKHWaSD7cQ6AEIPDAF#v=onepage&q=dr%20dre%20concrete%20roots%20billboard&f=false )
Also here is a Article about the Album in VIBE Mag. ( https://books.google.com/books?id=dywEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=dj+flash+producer+west+coast&source=bl&ots=Veo85MHM1G&sig=l1Mm09BZ4GYZ110ZEaCf_tOOuk8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjbwsmIj6LVAhVpwYMKHceqAg44ChDoAQguMAM#v=onepage&q=dj%20flash%20producer%20west%20coast&f=false )
If RHINO/Warner Bros. is considered A Major Indie Label. I Have Produced 5 Albums on that Label .please consider these Links ( http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/BTTL_westcoastrap1to3.html )
and ICE T "The Classic Collection" the album concieved, Compiled & Produced by Lee "DJ Flash" Johnson & mentioned in several Books Including Rolling Stone , All Music, etc... ( https://www.amazon.com/Trouser-Press-Guide-90s-Rock/dp/0684814374 )
( https://www.discogs.com/Ice-T-The-Classic-Collection/release/1922020 )
I feel as though these 5 albums may not meet wikipedias standards of Notability. Never the less I submit these Links for consideration. Thank you for your time and effort ,,, Best Regards Lee "DJ Flash" Johnson
' Djflash 1957 08:31, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
I will try to locate some things. It is rare for West Coast Artists to be featured in Books. Basically because Most Hip Hop Books are focused on East Coast Artists. Only recently have a couple Books been written about West Coast Rap Pioneers. Like i mentioned I'm not aware of all the requirements to be listed in Wikipedia. It is difficult to understand why a Record Producer with a 30 yr History of 25-40 Albums / Singles featuring some of the Worlds Biggest known Artists, must also rely on other sources (Books) to be considered notable. When In Truth only a handful of people would read the book as compared to the Millions or records embodying the Producers Works are sold all around the world. However difficult, I do respect your guidelines, Do Articles that mention DJ flash's place in Hip Hop History such as this one qualify for consideration ? kindest regards ( https://www.amoeba.com/blog/2013/10/jamoeblog/hip-hop-history-tuesdays-los-angeles-rap-hip-hop-the-first-decade-pt-i-.html ) djflash 1957 03:34, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:17, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm so sorry it was unsuccessful. I think you were an excellent candidate. Maybe if I'd have challenged (ironically) some of the comments from supporters early on, it might have been different. Unusually, you were criticised both for being overly strict and overly lax in your interpretation of consensus. I'd encourage you to reflect on the opposes and continue your excellent work, and, if you're not too bruised, come back and try again some day. I'm sorry if I fell down as your nominator... RfX can be a tough place and if it's any consolation, you handled yourself with great dignity in my opinion. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 07:47, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
What Dweller said. Just wanted to chime in and let you know that I very much regret missing the chance to comment in your recent RfB. I have great respect for the work you do here, and your demeanor and level-headedness throughout the ordeal (and in general), is an example to be followed. Regards,
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Ok, thanks! I guess I pulled the trigger a little too fast - a few days ago the band created a page for itself (actually in Spanish), so I assumed this was spam too. Sorry, and thanks for taking the time to givE me an explanation -- ‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ᐐT₳LKᐬ 14:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Per [15] you are incorrect. Undo your revert please. Legacypac ( talk) 17:28, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
"discussion has slowed"but several days without comments when no reasonable editor would expect further input. Then, I disagree that consensus was "reasonably clear". That might be because I opposed the proposal but then again, your assessment that it was might be because you supported it. Lastly, policies are highly important pages which should always reflect consensus as good as possible which is why major changes to policies should be assesses by non-involved editors, see WP:TALKFIRST. See also what I wrote on your talk page regarding the appearance of bias. Regards So Why 17:40, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
widely accepted standard[s]need to be made after assessment by uninvolved editors stems from WP:TALKFIRST I mentioned above which, unlike the instructions at WP:ANRFC, is actually a policy. Regards So Why 18:00, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
The claim that a 42 Support 12 Oppose consensus is not reasonably clear stretches my AGF. Legacypac ( talk) 17:56, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Off course it's not only about numbers but no reasonable close would go against over 75% support. SoWhy claimed an involved editor should not close - yet as an involved editor they reopened. If someone does not like a close the correct thing to do is seek to overturn it in the approprite venue. Legacypac ( talk) 18:21, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
"Ending a discussion requires careful evaluation of the responses to determine the consensus. This does not require the intervention of an administrator, but may be done by any sufficiently experienced independent editor (an impartial editor not involved in the discussion) who is familiar with all of the policies and guidelines that relate to the proposal."(emphasis added) I think you and I know I am usually one to follow the rules more strictly than others (it has been mentioned once or twice in a recent discussion) but even I don't believe a close that clearly contradicts the aforementioned policy has to be formally challenged. Again, I am not saying the outcome was necessarily wrong but that changing policies needs to be the result of consensus as determined by uninvolved editors to safeguard that it is not seen as one editor making changes in favor of their stated preferences. Regards So Why 19:11, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
SoWhy reverted both my RfC close and my edits to CSD13 with zero contact or discussion (until after the reverts) in violation of [16] policy and has refused to WP:ADMINACCT except for the unbelievable assertion the consensus is not clear. There is no wikiwide implications. This impacts only if we use G13 or Mfd on some subset of about 6000 pages in a current backlog. Nothing about my close was secret or underhanded for I even posted about it at AN and there is no urgent need to reopen the discussion to prevent some catastrophic event. If there is actual objections to my close other then that I am not an Admin, a policy based Close Review at AN would be most appropriate. In the interest of not having an ANi about SoWhy's breach of policy I've requested that an uninvolved Admin review the close and if they find the same conclusion, they restore it. Legacypac ( talk) 19:30, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
BRD might apply to the actual CSD change but that is not contested. I put a lot of thought into rewlrding it to concisely state what it needs to say. We don't even need a RfC to reword a CSD, just make a change and see if it sticks. It's a stretch to say the "Good practices" wording under WP:PROPOSALS, which may or may not even apply to a CSD change, trumps the clear on point wording at Requests for Closures. Legacypac ( talk) 19:41, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Several of your statements and your quoting of policy are wrong. Nothing good will come of an Admin snubbing policy amd procedure so openly. Use the proper procedure if you want to challenge the close. Maybe I should not have done the close, but having studyed the policy and thinking about it for several days while waiting for the discussion to slow (not stop) I determined my close would be within policy and I wanted a first crack at rewording CSDG13 itself. You did not have time to refresh yourself on policy, did not discuss your concerns with me or maybe even consider how your Admin action would offend me before reverting. Shame on you. There is no big rush here. Legacypac ( talk) 19:54, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
please stop reprasing what I say in ways that are not correct to my meaning. As you may or may not have noticed in your hasty revert CSDG13 already repeated itself and needs a fairly substantial rewording to remain (or get more) concise during this change. There is no ambiguity about what types of pages it applies too or possible benefit to me by imposing my suggested wording. I only want the community to get the benefit of my thinking on how to reach conciseness. Legacypac ( talk) 20:31, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Also since only an Admin is permitted to overturn a close, your assertion you did not act as an Admin is interesting. Legacypac ( talk) 20:34, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
You know I lived in Germany for 18 years? I had a great time there and I miss a lot of it. I left just a month or two before the wall came down (that's what - 28 years ago?). There was a joke, said by Germans about themselves; it went something like this: Deutsche Friedhöfe sind voll von Fahrern, die im Recht waren. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 10:53, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
SoWhy: You declined the speedy deletion of Steven Suptic, citing that Tubefilter "could pass as a reliable source." That article currently has an AfD discussion here. Would you be able to provide evidence that Suptic meets the notability requirements to have an article? You said that "Tubefilter might pass as a RS in this day and age, needs more discussion." Since you appear to be somewhat invested in the topic, could you to take the time to contribute to the discussion there? Thanks. Clbsfn ( talk) 02:09, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello! I would like to ask you a favor. I have replied at AN/Requests for closure that I will close a specific RfC but an unexpected problem has occurred. My PC is damaged so I have to edit using mobile, but it can't open this very section in edit mode (maybe due to its size). I however have the template with the statement ready in my userspace. Would you mind if I asked you to subst it at the RfC?? ( using this permalink at summary of course). The RfC is at talk:Donald Trump ( the one for the use of "liar" and "lies" and the closure here -- Kostas20142 ( talk) 13:01, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
You deleted Talk:Marisa Lazo, as the talk page of deleted page.
Could you please email me a copy of this talk page?
I believe it is the first forum where I interacted with CommotioCerebri. I have a recollection that this is the first place I tried to explain to CC that the civil expression of disagreement is not a personal attack.
It's possible that my recollection is wrong: (1) that I was genuinely uncivil there, and I don't remember; (2) or that my explanation was insulting, and I don't remember; (3) that I merely thought I left an explanation as to why civil disagreement should not be considered a personal attack, but my browser crashed, or I was called away, before I hit save, or something like that.
I'd really like to know.
CC has made just 23 edits, so far -- at least under that wiki-ID. 18 of those edits are either excisions of material I contributed, or discussions of my contributions. I did warn them that focussing on one particular contributor's efforts was generally frowned upon.
On Talk:Marisa Lazo CC defended the edits of an IP contributor. I am pretty sure I specifically asked CC whether they made the IP edits. I can't remember now whether they ignored my question, or specifically denied being the IP, or perhaps merely implied they didn't make the IP edits.
I'd like to check what they wrote, as they did acknowledge, on someone else's talk page, that they had recently transitioned from making their edits under IP addresses, to using a named ID. I've edited on other, non-WMF wikis, like the Citizendium, which do not allow edits from IP contributors, and they have a marked increase in civility and decrease in vandalism. I certainly welcome any contributor to transition from IP contributions to named contributions. But I think anyone making this transition has a definite obligation to own up, if asked. We don't want any discussion where a single person is expressing one view, to look like multiple individuals hold that view, because they weighed in, using multiple IDs, or a named ID and and an IP address.
Thanks! Geo Swan ( talk) 00:37, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
FYI that SmokeyJoe has proposed a draft set of guidelines that were discussed at Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol#Clarification_and_guidance_for_draftification. When I checked in with him last, he was of the view that an RfC at WT:Drafts would be best. Just giving you a heads up here so as to not crowd the VPR discussion. As always, thanks for all the work you do in bringing important topics to the community's attention :) TonyBallioni ( talk) 17:41, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi - I came across a deletion discussion for Formation 8, Googled them and quickly found some sources saying they were one of the most notable VC companies in their day. They are defunct now, but they raised almost USD$1 billion dollars in two funds, and were bringing 95% returns. I don't know how thorough a WP:BEFORE was done, since the sources were easy to find. I updated the article, and commented on the talk page. After a few days, nobody has commented or changed their votes, which surprises me and possibly underscores a behavioral economics flaw in the AfD process. Nonetheless, can I ask that you relist in the hopes that this new info can extend the discussion? I'm not sure if I'm allowed to, since I'm involved. Thanks! TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 01:00, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Do you really think you have acted responsibly in doing this? [18] BRC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.198.157 ( talk) 11:19, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy -- I saw you were someone who may be interested in "adopting" new users who are just getting experience in Wikipedia. I have an interest in becoming a better editor, and find there are a lot of policies that are taking some time to learn and understand. At the same time, I think the concept of Wikipedia is so cool - to have a community of people curating content in this way is truly unique. Might you consider 'adopting' me in the process of editing here and even learning how to publish a first article? -- DrNewYork ( talk) 17:46, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
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Dear SoWhy
Regarding the RapReviews.com Article
various artists :: West Coast Rap: The First Dynasty, Vol. 1-3 :: Rhino/Excello
as reviewed by Matt Jost.. [22]
In my Defense: I did not speak to the Reviewer . because the Article is an independent Review (Not an Interview) I do not know & have never spoken to the Author/Reviewer Matt Jost. Please take this in consideration when making your decision.
Here is another article from The Vinyl District.com that ref. DJ Flash several times. [23] Please consider both these articles when making your decision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djflash1957 ( talk • contribs) 06:39, 11 August 2017 (UTC) Best Regards
DJflash_1957 23:15, 10 August 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djflash1957 ( talk • contribs)
Hi, I'm writing because I really want to archive Chazz Miller's history. He is an actual person who is in danger of having his history of what he has done in Detroit erased if not documented. Too many new people are moving to Detroit and don't realize that there is already an Artist Village there can not be a new one, and this is the best way to document that so the young new people who are moving to Detroit realize this and understand better the city of Detroit and the People there in.
I live in Montreal so I am not in direct contact with this person. So there will be no meat puppet or sock puppetry. Just facts and history documentation. If you can help with this, I will be greatly appreciative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThatChickOverThere ( talk • contribs) 15:58, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
So I made many edits and changes. By any chance are you at the Wikimania conference Montreal? I hope that this is more appropriate
Hey there, I met User:ThatChickOverThere at Wikimania and we worked through the article together to sort out the issues of tone and add more sources. I think the topic is notable enough, and now that most of the WP:Peacock text has been removed, and some of the sources are being used more sensibly, I think it's OK for mainspace. Feel free to start an AFD if you think that a notability review is needed. In that case, please tag me so that I can give my input as well. -- Slashme ( talk)
It looks like you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lamont Gallery just as I was adding a comment (odd that I didn't get an edit conflict). I suspect you made your keep decision based on the sources presented, but I took a look at the NYTimes article, and it's not what you might expect (see my comment in the AfD). I'd like to request that you reopen the AfD and relist it for another week to allow people more time to evaluate the proposed sources. In particular, I'd like to see somebody find the Boston Globe source and evaluate that. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:13, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
This is with regard to Yash aradhay's wikipedia page was deleted and i contest the same. Yash Aradhya is a national champion in go karting and racing in the international arena. He has just turned 14 years and got his Formula-4 licence now and also won few National championship races in Formula-4. Request you to kindly Undelete the page of Yash Aradhya as we want to update his Formula-4 achievements immediately. Thank you Sujith Aradhya ( talk) 20:02, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
I see that you deleted a page called "Get Croissant" /info/en/?search=Get_Croissant
I am curious if there is any way I can see the original text of this page?
The Google serach returned the first sentence if that helps... "Get Croissant or (Croissant Coworking) is an American online marketplace software technology coworking company that provides on demand access to shared ... "
Thanks! Axcelis555 ( talk) 20:28, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy,
I have found a source which proves the notability of the author DJ Flash. The book is called Ego Trip's Book of Rap Lists ( https://www.amazon.com/Ego-Trips-Book-Rap-Lists/dp/0312242980/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1500200452&sr=1-1&keywords=rap%20lists). Click on look inside, then type in the search DJ Flash (I believe it's on page 33).
Yours,
Hrvoje Grahovac — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westcoast1978 ( talk • contribs) 19:56, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy,
DJ Flash here. I understand your reason for deleting the DJ Flash Page. I also Agree with Duffbeerforme When he said it was "An over the top mess of promotion, original research and dud sources" For that I take full responsibility. And I respect the hard work & dedication all of you put into keeping Wikipedia as a reliable source of information. The 10 + years "DJ Flash" was listed in wikipedia have allowed me the opportunity to reconnect with so many friends & colleagues that before the advent of the internet & wikipedia, I had no hopes of ever reconnecting. Although i retained my name DJ Flash (i was only a DJ for a few short years 1979-83) before becoming a Record Producer & Label Owner. the Page/Article focused on the Body Of Works I leave behind as a Record Producer. I admit i am not knowledgeable in all the rules of creating an article or Page. But i thank the many contributors & editors who have contributed to the page over the years. I will continue to donate funds to wikipedia & will always support your good works. Looking Back I wish the page could have been Saved, Edited and Sourced better. But i will live with your decision. When I began my career their were only 2 Flash's ..Grand Master Flash on the East Coast & DJ Flash on the West Coast ... Now i notice their are 100's of DJ Flash's from all over the world. If their is any way possible to recreate an edited version of the Page i would be most appreciative for your guidance & instruction & if not ... I will respect your decision ... Kindest Regards .. DJ Flash ' Djflash 1957 06:13, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank You for your quick reply
I will make a wholehearted attempt to provide reliable sources. As i read Wikipedia's "Criteria For Musicians and Ensembles" (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theater groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.
(If This Category Includes Record Producers Please consider this Link From Billboard Mag. Regarding an Album Concieved, Compiled & Produced by DJ flash) ( https://books.google.com/books?id=YQgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA112&dq=dr+dre+concrete+roots+billboard&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLwtGzk6LVAhXJ7IMKHWaSD7cQ6AEIPDAF#v=onepage&q=dr%20dre%20concrete%20roots%20billboard&f=false )
Also here is a Article about the Album in VIBE Mag. ( https://books.google.com/books?id=dywEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=dj+flash+producer+west+coast&source=bl&ots=Veo85MHM1G&sig=l1Mm09BZ4GYZ110ZEaCf_tOOuk8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjbwsmIj6LVAhVpwYMKHceqAg44ChDoAQguMAM#v=onepage&q=dj%20flash%20producer%20west%20coast&f=false )
If RHINO/Warner Bros. is considered A Major Indie Label. I Have Produced 5 Albums on that Label .please consider these Links ( http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/BTTL_westcoastrap1to3.html )
and ICE T "The Classic Collection" the album concieved, Compiled & Produced by Lee "DJ Flash" Johnson & mentioned in several Books Including Rolling Stone , All Music, etc... ( https://www.amazon.com/Trouser-Press-Guide-90s-Rock/dp/0684814374 )
( https://www.discogs.com/Ice-T-The-Classic-Collection/release/1922020 )
I feel as though these 5 albums may not meet wikipedias standards of Notability. Never the less I submit these Links for consideration. Thank you for your time and effort ,,, Best Regards Lee "DJ Flash" Johnson
' Djflash 1957 08:31, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
I will try to locate some things. It is rare for West Coast Artists to be featured in Books. Basically because Most Hip Hop Books are focused on East Coast Artists. Only recently have a couple Books been written about West Coast Rap Pioneers. Like i mentioned I'm not aware of all the requirements to be listed in Wikipedia. It is difficult to understand why a Record Producer with a 30 yr History of 25-40 Albums / Singles featuring some of the Worlds Biggest known Artists, must also rely on other sources (Books) to be considered notable. When In Truth only a handful of people would read the book as compared to the Millions or records embodying the Producers Works are sold all around the world. However difficult, I do respect your guidelines, Do Articles that mention DJ flash's place in Hip Hop History such as this one qualify for consideration ? kindest regards ( https://www.amoeba.com/blog/2013/10/jamoeblog/hip-hop-history-tuesdays-los-angeles-rap-hip-hop-the-first-decade-pt-i-.html ) djflash 1957 03:34, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Many thanks for the removal of AfD here - I can't think why it was proposed. Roy Bateman ( talk) 02:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
We shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking that because people are notable now, they always were. When Ed Sheeran was deleted in Nov 2006, he would have been 15 years old. The text of the article was:
“ | Ed Sheeran was born in 1991 and lives in Suffolk, UK. He first picked up a guitar in 2002 and soon after wrote his first song, Typical Average. He has written over 30 songs since then.
In March 2005, Ed recorded his first professional CD The Orange Room EP, which features five songs. In April 2005, he played his first solo gig and in June his music was played on the radio for the first time. Ed has been inspired by great teachers, including the American guitarist Preston Reed, the jazz guitarist Keith Krykant, the singer-songwriter Charity Quin, the opera singer Claire Weston and the singing tutor Richard Charlton. In October 2005, Ed started recording his debut album at Din Studios in London. The album is now available. It has been produced by Julian Simmons, who has recently worked with the Guillemots. The album features 12 new songs and a bonus track. Various outstanding musicians have helped Ed on the album including Jack Pollitt (drums), Jonny Bridgwood (bass) Fiona Brice (violin), Helen Rathbone (cello) and Martin Hay (synthesiser). The rap artist Alonestar sings on one track and Ed's cousin, the talented young Irish singer-songwriter Laura Sheeran, sings on various tracks. Another of Ed's cousins, Hannah Sheeran, plays the clarinet and sings. Ed is managed by his parents' company Sheeran Lock Ltd Ed has made a video for his song Open Your Ears with Bruizer Productions. The set featured the spray-painting work of two of the UK's leading street artists, Graham Dews and Gwen Liby. The video has been put on Ed's My Space and You Tube as well as the home page of his website. |
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It was a correct A7 deletion IMO. Indeed the current article (created in Jan 11) only has two sentences in the section "Music Career" that pre-date 2008... WJBscribe (talk) 11:50, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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SoWhy, I am wondering what the process is supposed to be here. I was just about to comment on the AfD for Syed Ali Raza Usama, and while I was searching for sources I edit-conflicted with you closing the AfD as delete. Given my comment below that I intended to post, would you have considered relisting instead? Sorry, I've never had this happen before. — Insert CleverPhrase Here 08:15, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello,
I noticed you deleted the article mentioned above due to its lack of notability. That being said, I have worked on a draft of this article on my sandbox and have provided sources with it. May I have your permission to please recreate the article? Hitcher vs. Candyman ( talk) 01:19, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
How do you feel about Wikipedia:Requests for bureaucratship/SoWhy 2? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 13:22, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
you know me: I'm happy to serve the community in any way I can and if you are willing to risk your good name nominating me, I'm willing to offer my services.
I'd seriously consider it. You often stand out for being calm and sensible. And if I've asked you the same thing twice (senility is fast approaching), I must have been on the right track twice. So here are some questions to suss this out:
-- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 14:34, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
That's reassuring stuff. Anyone you got in mind you'd like to co-nom (or maybe nom instead of me?)? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 15:14, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
The link at the top of this section has gone blue. Your turn to start answering questions and then transclude. Feel free to take your time, there's no rush. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 14:12, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
The personal life issues I allude to on my user talk may be about to explode. When they do, I'll be offwiki for a week. Would it be OK with you to pause? Sorry to be annoying, but this is serious stuff and I can't do a thing about it. I wouldn't want to abandon a nominee through the course of things. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 19:36, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I came here for something else (see below), but does anybody mind if I throw a co-nomination on the pile? Or do people think I have done enough RfX nominations already this year and should just pipe down for the duration? In particular, I was thinking of pulling together some facts and figures for how many RfAs you've been involved with, how many candidates you've put forward, and how many of those RfAs have had your vote match consensus. I would offer to sort out the transclusion too, but I still feel rather guilty about GAB's RfA going full steam ahead without Dweller getting so much a chance to write a co-nomination statement, so it would be completely unfair to do that again. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:29, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Tentatively back. No objections to any co-nom you approve of, SoWhy. Want to go live? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 12:04, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
My situation is fluid and at some point, I will disappear for a week or more, but it's unpredictable when that will happen and life needs to go on. Let's do it. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 12:26, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
I know you are taking a bit of a pounding at the moment, but I hope you will not withdraw. Seeing your calm and professional demeanor throughout the RfB so far and your willingness to answer questions at length has reassured me that I made the right decision in supporting your candidacy regardless of how it turns out. I am disappointed that you have encountered so much opposition, but that's life, I suppose. Your work is valued here regardless. 28bytes ( talk) 03:55, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
A belated note of thanks for the very kind suggestion you made at my talk page earlier this week. I've been traveling for work this week (you and I are in the same profession, it appears) and your message was the only thing that salvaged an exhausting, discouraging trip! You prompted me to give the idea serious consideration, and after a close review of relevant guidelines, I think it's a little too early for me. These are the two areas where I see myself falling short: (a) I have no content creation to speak of; my efforts here have been almost entirely in the realm of copyediting gnomery and anti-vandalism (with a bit of anti-copyvio work thrown in); and (b) I am far too lacking in knowledge of the necessary technical (i.e. coding-type) fine points. But, now I know all this! And perhaps we can revisit this idea in about six months.
Again, Herzlichen Dank; your opinion counts for a lot with me and I'm grateful that you took the time to share it. Take care! - Julietdeltalima (talk) 20:52, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
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produce the same output). As long as you keep on being willing to learn new things and are careful (using the preview button before using syntax you never used before for example), you will do fine.Hi SoWhy,
It's pretty clear that my proposal to expand A7 is failing miserably and with your in-depth analysis of the examples I gave to Ritchie333 I have concluded that it's time to withdraw it. Your precise application of policy at the discussion has swayed me from neutral to support in your RfB by the way!
Thanks,
DrStrauss talk 22:19, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
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For the most graceful RfX candidacy I have ever seen, you deserve this. TonyBallioni ( talk) 02:11, 30 July 2017 (UTC) |
I just wanted to say, regardless of how the RfB goes, I think you could be an asset to the community as an ArbCom member or trustee, so I hope you run. A campaign for one of those roles, even if unsuccessful, could help draw attention to some excellent essays you have written. 172.56.2.106 ( talk) 00:22, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2017).
Hello SoWhy, your RfB has closed without a consensus to promote being reached. Thank you for actively participating, many editors praised your ability as administrator and I hope you continue to support the project in that role. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 12:51, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
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That was a real shame. For a time it looked as though we'd be welcoming you as the newest bureaucrat, which would have been awesome; I grew increasingly disappointed as your RfB crept towards yellow and then into the red. At least we'll still have your service to Wikipedia and I'm pleased to see that you've not decided to pack it in - I'm glad. :) I'm delighted I had the chance to support you, SoWhy - delighted indeed. Acalamari 01:20, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm so sorry it was unsuccessful. I think you were an excellent candidate. Maybe if I'd have challenged (ironically) some of the comments from supporters early on, it might have been different. Unusually, you were criticised both for being overly strict and overly lax in your interpretation of consensus. I'd encourage you to reflect on the opposes and continue your excellent work, and, if you're not too bruised, come back and try again some day. I'm sorry if I fell down as your nominator... RfX can be a tough place and if it's any consolation, you handled yourself with great dignity in my opinion. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 07:47, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy,
Thank you for your assistance with closing discussions at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion; there certainly is a backlog over there that needs some attention, and I'm trying to find some to close as a "non-admin". Anyways, you may or may not know this, but if you cold, when you close or relist the final discussion on a day/subpage, could you please also remove the subpage's tranclusion on Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion (as I did here)? Thanks! Steel1943 ( talk) 22:42, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I'm strugglimg to understand your thought process in closing this as nc. Please can you add a rationale and perhaps expand on how you weighted the different votes? Thanks Spartaz Humbug! 22:51, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy, Thanks for your relist. There was an Afd I was participating in that you relisted to generate a more thorough consensus. You said NPACTOR may not be the only applicable guideline and that two others could be applicable. I think the person in the wikipedia article meets those guidelines but someone else deleted the article. It was for Guinness World Record holder Bria Roberts. /info/en/?search=Bria_Roberts Can you reopen it? She's been notable and in many sources. http://www.nbcnews.com/video/can-woman-set-guinness-record-for-jumping-rope-with-a-leg-behind-her-head-760405571555 https://www.yahoo.com/tv/jump-rope-record-attempt-goes-poorly-except-it-totally-doesnt-on-today-203740017.html http://www.today.com/video/can-woman-set-guinness-record-for-jumping-rope-with-a-leg-behind-her-head-760405571555 http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-skips-with-one-leg-behind-the-head-in-one-minute http://www.spike.com/video-clips/9ni4z6/1000-ways-to-die- http://entertainment-newsss.blogspot.com/2013/11/bria-roberts-contortionist-attempts.html Those are links that I posted in the discussion. I have a magazine somewhere that she's in too. The person who opened the afd gave incorrect information about her, like claiming she was an extra in 1000 Ways to Die even though she was the main character and speaking through the show, and saying she was the only person to ever try for the world record when she wasnt. He was demeaning her and her place in entertainment even though she meets the guidelines set by wikipedia. [User:Floppy292|Floppy292]] talk 20:02 , 21 August 2017 (UTC)
On 22 August 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nasone, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Romans like to drink out of large noses? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nasone. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, Nasone), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Alex Shih Talk 00:03, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Great hook! — Calvin999 14:01, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi. I was writing about a historical watch and my page godt deleted because of some claim that i was a corporate page. I disagree with this one
André — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreot ( talk • contribs) 15:35, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm ashamed to say I would find it too soul-destroying to become involved in the draft space discussions. but you may be interested in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Poorly references sports biographies. If I understand right it is possible, with no guideline against, to use AWB to make bulk moves from main to draft space simply because the editor thinks it is a good idea. I can't make out whether the inclusion of Sir Edward Antrobus, 8th Baronet was a mistake because the editor denies it was included at all. A very weak article but, with its history, it shouldn't just be vanished. Thank you for thinking about the consequences of all this when very few people do. Thincat ( talk) 18:31, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 75#Keeping track of cross-space moves.....
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Someone brought at soft deletion you did to DRV at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2017 August 29. Doesn't look like the nom informed you so I thought I should :) TonyBallioni ( talk) 15:13, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for sorting out my issues with deletion sorting listing on Southamerican University... yes, it was me who originally listed them, my query was, why did it work when you listed them, and not when I listed them? I still can't see what I did differently or incorrectly, and I've put articles up for AfD before and never had this problem. I was just asking for another uninvolved pair of eyes to have a look and tell me what I did wrong. Anyway, it's all sorted now, so thank you very much for your help, hopefully we'll get some participation now. Richard3120 ( talk) 13:41, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2017).
This article was about my profile.My name is Jamil Ahmed Nizamani.firstly this was not uploaded by me,I just made some editing.I think this article deleting is unfair.Reason is that this belongs to a person who is living and have done something in life.Nothing happens if you do not upload it.I do not need this.Millions of people have performed better than me in this world.it is really very awkward for a person requesting for uploading his profile.I feel compulsion to let you know,that I can add something more in this article about me.Every one is unique so i am.I am suffering from dystonia still managing my job,business.Keeping my self busy with different activities on internet.you must read my post on my English language blog's post Beginning of the world peace.I am the only surviving son of my parents.My parents gave birth to four special children,three passed away in their twenties,one of special sister is living with me.There is much more that world needs to know.its up to you what you do.whatever you do just please let me know about your views.And pleas clearly mention the reason for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jnizamani ( talk • contribs) 04:50, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
You can read my ebook "Eleven words in English.This work is not published in hard form.you could help me to get it published.links for the book are available in the article.If I get recognition for my work,I have pendig books in my mind on group of words etc.My sindhi language blog contains 130 posts.I will keep writing it.Get it translated in English to understand it.I expect you wil review the article and restore it — Preceding
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I am really very thankful to you for your positive response.If so let the article delete permanently I do not have any other reliable source according to your standard.Its good i learnt something from your logical discussion.Permanent deletion will keep me now more relaxed.please do it at once.This state of no where will keep my attention diverted.As you delete it permanently just let me know.I think after permanent deletion,google will not search it.Still it shows it in search.
I want to bring this Afd to your notice which you relisted few days back, as you wanted to stop deletion as the film was going to release in some days and would have got coverages. I also participate at Afd to save worthy articles from deletion. But that article was a duplicate one, I have given brief explanation at that Afd. Anoptimistix ( talk) 13:02, 5 September 2017 (UTC) Anoptimistix ( talk) 13:02, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy,
I visited a Wikipedia page yesterday (9/5/17) about Joe Herzenberg, the first openly gay official in the former U.S. Confederacy:
/info/en/?search=Joe_Herzenberg
and saw a notice at the top that it had been marked for deletion. Reading the rationale behind this proposed deletion, it appeared that the main problem was the article didn't meet Wikipedia's GNG standards. One reason for this was that the article linked to only one published obituary (from 2007) for Herzenberg, and ten years later that particular link is now dead. But living in Joe's adopted hometown of Chapel Hill, NC, I know there was substantial press coverage of Joe and his groundbreaking political career both while he was alive and at the time of his death in 2007. For example:
http://www.ibiblio.org/carrborocitizen/main/2007/11/01/obituary-joseph-a-herzenberg/
https://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/joe-herzenberg-1941-2007/Content?oid=1204878
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erik-ose/top-mccain-advisor-learne_b_138697.html
https://www.advocate.com/news/2007/10/31/north-carolinas-first-gay-elected-official-dies
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.obituaries/ugg6nL31dTI
http://andjusticeforall.dconc.gov/gallery_images/durhams-inaugural-pridefest/
http://outhistory.org/exhibits/show/out-and-elected/late-1980s/joe-herzenberg
I was in the process of creating a Wikipedia account today, planning to add some links to the article and comment on why I believed it shouldn't be deleted. By the time I got my account set up, you had already decided to soft delete it:
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Joe_Herzenberg
http://deletedwiki.com/index.php?title=Joe_Herzenberg
So if you could point me towards the exact page where I can request that this article be restored, that would be great. As a new user, this process is confusing. I'm not sure If I should be filing a request for undeletion or a deletion review:
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion
or if I should be contacting you like this on your talk page. Please steer me in the right direction.
Thanks a lot,
Outforgood ( talk) 05:25, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
{{
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at the top to request a review by an experienced editor. You can find the article restored now at
Draft:Joe Herzenberg. Happy editing and feel free to contact me again if you have more questions. Regards
So
Why
06:54, 6 September 2017 (UTC)Hi. An article which you soft deleted, Conphidance, was recreated. However, the same issues which led me to nominate it the first time still exist, so I nominated it the second time. However, something happened and it didn't pick up the first AfD, and now the link to AfD discussion leads to the closed first AfD discussion. Can you lend a hand, please? Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 12:44, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
Can you pleae tell me why do u delete Siddharth Ramaswamy article. All the details in that article was genuine and i given all the necessary reference links too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunanoop93 ( talk • contribs) 13:58, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy I can send u reference links of Siddharth Ramaswamy
I hope all these links are Reliable Sources. Kindly restore Mr Ramaswamy's article. this discussion The discussion shows its contain lot of peacock term . i assure i will re edit the article , once i got it back and i can add more reference links too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunanoop93 ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Regards Arunanoop93 Arun Mohan 18:42, 9 September 2017 (UTC) Arun Mohan 17:00, 9 September 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunanoop93 ( talk • contribs)
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Hi Admin! It's OK if Basit Ali (singer) page has been deleted. But you removed his name from the page in this edit. I don't ask you more, but it is my request to re-add the name only. Thanks! M. Billoo 09:58, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
There were two deletes and one keep. Is this not enough to agree the article should be deleted? Thanks. Contaldo80 ( talk) 08:49, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
I had placed the speedy tag on Peerless SC because the club fails WP:FOOTYN. Peerless is a club based in Kolkata City which plays only in Calcutta Premier Division, which is not a national level cup or tournament. The club does not pass general notability criteria either. That's the reason I had placed a speedy delete for the same. Coderzombie ( talk) 15:06, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Sigh... I don't really want to put the time into this... but point me to the record label that this was supposed to be a part of. I think there's probably a lot more cleaning up to do there. TJW talk 12:09, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Any chance you can move this deleted article into my userspace somewhere. Has now made two league appearances for Blackpool. I have a fairly detailed knowledge of The New Saints and Welsh Premier League, so from my userspace, I can clean up and expand whatever was done last time, and then create a new article? Thanks in advance Zanoni ( talk) 19:37, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
So I noticed you deleted the addition of CRMNEXT. Can you let me know what was wrong about it? Refer to: 20:49, August 15, 2017 SoWhy (talk | contribs) m . . (10,196 bytes) (-4) . . (Removing link(s): Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CRMNEXT closed as soft delete (XFDcloser)) Also the wiki page of CRMNEXT appears to have been deleted! This is a legitimate organization having a considerable presence in the CRM space in Banking Can you point me in the right direction?
Company site for reference: https://www.crmnext.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nik-Hill ( talk • contribs) 09:08, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marisa Lazo as delete. I request userification of the article and talk page. First, Lazo continues to be the subject of news coverage. This news article, on the general topic of "rooftopping", devotes several paragraphs to Lazo, calling her "Perhaps the highest profile example of this in Canada..."
When another crane-climbing incident occurred, in early August, the climber was an elderly homeless man who climbed the crane to protest the construction of luxury condos when many men like him had no housing at all. He explicitly distinguished his motives (protest) from those of Lazo, who the press dubbed "crane girl", who was apparently motivated by thrill-seeking.
I request userification to User:Geo Swan/Marisa Lazo. I request userification of the talk page, as well.
Thanks! Geo Swan ( talk) 16:04, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
I noticed that on
User talk:Citationhelper you stated that my signature does not contain a link to my user talk page, which indeed it does. perhaps there is something I missed, or you viewed an old signature of mine, but my signature is <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">'''[[User:Citationhelper|<span style="color:#170">'''''Citation'''''</span><span style="color:#880">'''''helper'''''</span>]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Citationhelper|talk]])</sup></span>
. Please tell me if I missed something or if there is something you want to elaborate on.
Thanks for your time!
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Hi Mr. SoWhy Previously i was created a bio article page in the name of Sooraj Palakkaran https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Sooraj_Palakkaran&action=edit&redlink=1. But unfortunately it was not verified, actually i insert all available reference link from different sources.So kindly give as a feedback or suggestion what was the exact problem occurred.Also i have to recreating the same article again what i will do for the same. -Vishnu- Wikiappu13 ( talk) 07:21, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
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Many thanks for the removal of AfD here - I can't think why it was proposed. Roy Bateman ( talk) 02:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
We shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking that because people are notable now, they always were. When Ed Sheeran was deleted in Nov 2006, he would have been 15 years old. The text of the article was:
“ | Ed Sheeran was born in 1991 and lives in Suffolk, UK. He first picked up a guitar in 2002 and soon after wrote his first song, Typical Average. He has written over 30 songs since then.
In March 2005, Ed recorded his first professional CD The Orange Room EP, which features five songs. In April 2005, he played his first solo gig and in June his music was played on the radio for the first time. Ed has been inspired by great teachers, including the American guitarist Preston Reed, the jazz guitarist Keith Krykant, the singer-songwriter Charity Quin, the opera singer Claire Weston and the singing tutor Richard Charlton. In October 2005, Ed started recording his debut album at Din Studios in London. The album is now available. It has been produced by Julian Simmons, who has recently worked with the Guillemots. The album features 12 new songs and a bonus track. Various outstanding musicians have helped Ed on the album including Jack Pollitt (drums), Jonny Bridgwood (bass) Fiona Brice (violin), Helen Rathbone (cello) and Martin Hay (synthesiser). The rap artist Alonestar sings on one track and Ed's cousin, the talented young Irish singer-songwriter Laura Sheeran, sings on various tracks. Another of Ed's cousins, Hannah Sheeran, plays the clarinet and sings. Ed is managed by his parents' company Sheeran Lock Ltd Ed has made a video for his song Open Your Ears with Bruizer Productions. The set featured the spray-painting work of two of the UK's leading street artists, Graham Dews and Gwen Liby. The video has been put on Ed's My Space and You Tube as well as the home page of his website. |
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It was a correct A7 deletion IMO. Indeed the current article (created in Jan 11) only has two sentences in the section "Music Career" that pre-date 2008... WJBscribe (talk) 11:50, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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SoWhy, I am wondering what the process is supposed to be here. I was just about to comment on the AfD for Syed Ali Raza Usama, and while I was searching for sources I edit-conflicted with you closing the AfD as delete. Given my comment below that I intended to post, would you have considered relisting instead? Sorry, I've never had this happen before. — Insert CleverPhrase Here 08:15, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello,
I noticed you deleted the article mentioned above due to its lack of notability. That being said, I have worked on a draft of this article on my sandbox and have provided sources with it. May I have your permission to please recreate the article? Hitcher vs. Candyman ( talk) 01:19, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
How do you feel about Wikipedia:Requests for bureaucratship/SoWhy 2? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 13:22, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
you know me: I'm happy to serve the community in any way I can and if you are willing to risk your good name nominating me, I'm willing to offer my services.
I'd seriously consider it. You often stand out for being calm and sensible. And if I've asked you the same thing twice (senility is fast approaching), I must have been on the right track twice. So here are some questions to suss this out:
-- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 14:34, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
That's reassuring stuff. Anyone you got in mind you'd like to co-nom (or maybe nom instead of me?)? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 15:14, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
The link at the top of this section has gone blue. Your turn to start answering questions and then transclude. Feel free to take your time, there's no rush. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 14:12, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
The personal life issues I allude to on my user talk may be about to explode. When they do, I'll be offwiki for a week. Would it be OK with you to pause? Sorry to be annoying, but this is serious stuff and I can't do a thing about it. I wouldn't want to abandon a nominee through the course of things. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 19:36, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I came here for something else (see below), but does anybody mind if I throw a co-nomination on the pile? Or do people think I have done enough RfX nominations already this year and should just pipe down for the duration? In particular, I was thinking of pulling together some facts and figures for how many RfAs you've been involved with, how many candidates you've put forward, and how many of those RfAs have had your vote match consensus. I would offer to sort out the transclusion too, but I still feel rather guilty about GAB's RfA going full steam ahead without Dweller getting so much a chance to write a co-nomination statement, so it would be completely unfair to do that again. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:29, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Tentatively back. No objections to any co-nom you approve of, SoWhy. Want to go live? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 12:04, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
My situation is fluid and at some point, I will disappear for a week or more, but it's unpredictable when that will happen and life needs to go on. Let's do it. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 12:26, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
I know you are taking a bit of a pounding at the moment, but I hope you will not withdraw. Seeing your calm and professional demeanor throughout the RfB so far and your willingness to answer questions at length has reassured me that I made the right decision in supporting your candidacy regardless of how it turns out. I am disappointed that you have encountered so much opposition, but that's life, I suppose. Your work is valued here regardless. 28bytes ( talk) 03:55, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
A belated note of thanks for the very kind suggestion you made at my talk page earlier this week. I've been traveling for work this week (you and I are in the same profession, it appears) and your message was the only thing that salvaged an exhausting, discouraging trip! You prompted me to give the idea serious consideration, and after a close review of relevant guidelines, I think it's a little too early for me. These are the two areas where I see myself falling short: (a) I have no content creation to speak of; my efforts here have been almost entirely in the realm of copyediting gnomery and anti-vandalism (with a bit of anti-copyvio work thrown in); and (b) I am far too lacking in knowledge of the necessary technical (i.e. coding-type) fine points. But, now I know all this! And perhaps we can revisit this idea in about six months.
Again, Herzlichen Dank; your opinion counts for a lot with me and I'm grateful that you took the time to share it. Take care! - Julietdeltalima (talk) 20:52, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
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produce the same output). As long as you keep on being willing to learn new things and are careful (using the preview button before using syntax you never used before for example), you will do fine.Hi SoWhy,
It's pretty clear that my proposal to expand A7 is failing miserably and with your in-depth analysis of the examples I gave to Ritchie333 I have concluded that it's time to withdraw it. Your precise application of policy at the discussion has swayed me from neutral to support in your RfB by the way!
Thanks,
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For the most graceful RfX candidacy I have ever seen, you deserve this. TonyBallioni ( talk) 02:11, 30 July 2017 (UTC) |
I just wanted to say, regardless of how the RfB goes, I think you could be an asset to the community as an ArbCom member or trustee, so I hope you run. A campaign for one of those roles, even if unsuccessful, could help draw attention to some excellent essays you have written. 172.56.2.106 ( talk) 00:22, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2017).
Hello SoWhy, your RfB has closed without a consensus to promote being reached. Thank you for actively participating, many editors praised your ability as administrator and I hope you continue to support the project in that role. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 12:51, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
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That was a real shame. For a time it looked as though we'd be welcoming you as the newest bureaucrat, which would have been awesome; I grew increasingly disappointed as your RfB crept towards yellow and then into the red. At least we'll still have your service to Wikipedia and I'm pleased to see that you've not decided to pack it in - I'm glad. :) I'm delighted I had the chance to support you, SoWhy - delighted indeed. Acalamari 01:20, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy,
Thank you for your assistance with closing discussions at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion; there certainly is a backlog over there that needs some attention, and I'm trying to find some to close as a "non-admin". Anyways, you may or may not know this, but if you cold, when you close or relist the final discussion on a day/subpage, could you please also remove the subpage's tranclusion on Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion (as I did here)? Thanks! Steel1943 ( talk) 22:42, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Not an accusation, but re. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mujahida Hussain Bibi , but it's curious how long the software takes to catch up on itself...? — fortuna velut luna 14:26, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Unsure if this is built into XfDCloser or if XfDCloser uses Twinkle (haven't yet played with the former), but regarding this sort of delinking, please try not to simply delink all instances without checking to see if it would instead be more productive to simply remove mention. Delinking an item in a list that requires entries to have Wikipedia articles just makes it harder to find problematic entries in those lists. When still linked, it's possible for me to use "what links here" to see where it may need to be removed. In this case, list of hip hop artists is on my watchlist and I saw the delink so could just finish the task, but if that artist were delinked from other lists, I'd have to now either search for "SD" (not a very productive search) or hunt through your contribs. Changing from red to blacktext also makes it harder to visually spot inappropriate entries in a list. In short -- and I realize this is more of a problem that I have with Twinkle, etc. than with its users (although everyone is responsible to make sure a semi-automated edit is an improvement before saving) -- I really think it's better not to delink deleted articles in lists (as opposed to in prose), since in the vast majority of cases it's more appropriate to remove and delinking makes that harder. Thanks for reading to the end of my rant :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:10, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy,
I have found a source which proves the notability of the author DJ Flash. The book is called Ego Trip's Book of Rap Lists ( https://www.amazon.com/Ego-Trips-Book-Rap-Lists/dp/0312242980/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1500200452&sr=1-1&keywords=rap%20lists). Click on look inside, then type in the search DJ Flash (I believe it's on page 33).
Yours,
Hrvoje Grahovac — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westcoast1978 ( talk • contribs) 19:56, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy,
DJ Flash here. I understand your reason for deleting the DJ Flash Page. I also Agree with Duffbeerforme When he said it was "An over the top mess of promotion, original research and dud sources" For that I take full responsibility. And I respect the hard work & dedication all of you put into keeping Wikipedia as a reliable source of information. The 10 + years "DJ Flash" was listed in wikipedia have allowed me the opportunity to reconnect with so many friends & colleagues that before the advent of the internet & wikipedia, I had no hopes of ever reconnecting. Although i retained my name DJ Flash (i was only a DJ for a few short years 1979-83) before becoming a Record Producer & Label Owner. the Page/Article focused on the Body Of Works I leave behind as a Record Producer. I admit i am not knowledgeable in all the rules of creating an article or Page. But i thank the many contributors & editors who have contributed to the page over the years. I will continue to donate funds to wikipedia & will always support your good works. Looking Back I wish the page could have been Saved, Edited and Sourced better. But i will live with your decision. When I began my career their were only 2 Flash's ..Grand Master Flash on the East Coast & DJ Flash on the West Coast ... Now i notice their are 100's of DJ Flash's from all over the world. If their is any way possible to recreate an edited version of the Page i would be most appreciative for your guidance & instruction & if not ... I will respect your decision ... Kindest Regards .. DJ Flash ' Djflash 1957 06:13, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank You for your quick reply
I will make a wholehearted attempt to provide reliable sources. As i read Wikipedia's "Criteria For Musicians and Ensembles" (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theater groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.
(If This Category Includes Record Producers Please consider this Link From Billboard Mag. Regarding an Album Concieved, Compiled & Produced by DJ flash) ( https://books.google.com/books?id=YQgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA112&dq=dr+dre+concrete+roots+billboard&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLwtGzk6LVAhXJ7IMKHWaSD7cQ6AEIPDAF#v=onepage&q=dr%20dre%20concrete%20roots%20billboard&f=false )
Also here is a Article about the Album in VIBE Mag. ( https://books.google.com/books?id=dywEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=dj+flash+producer+west+coast&source=bl&ots=Veo85MHM1G&sig=l1Mm09BZ4GYZ110ZEaCf_tOOuk8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjbwsmIj6LVAhVpwYMKHceqAg44ChDoAQguMAM#v=onepage&q=dj%20flash%20producer%20west%20coast&f=false )
If RHINO/Warner Bros. is considered A Major Indie Label. I Have Produced 5 Albums on that Label .please consider these Links ( http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/BTTL_westcoastrap1to3.html )
and ICE T "The Classic Collection" the album concieved, Compiled & Produced by Lee "DJ Flash" Johnson & mentioned in several Books Including Rolling Stone , All Music, etc... ( https://www.amazon.com/Trouser-Press-Guide-90s-Rock/dp/0684814374 )
( https://www.discogs.com/Ice-T-The-Classic-Collection/release/1922020 )
I feel as though these 5 albums may not meet wikipedias standards of Notability. Never the less I submit these Links for consideration. Thank you for your time and effort ,,, Best Regards Lee "DJ Flash" Johnson
' Djflash 1957 08:31, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
I will try to locate some things. It is rare for West Coast Artists to be featured in Books. Basically because Most Hip Hop Books are focused on East Coast Artists. Only recently have a couple Books been written about West Coast Rap Pioneers. Like i mentioned I'm not aware of all the requirements to be listed in Wikipedia. It is difficult to understand why a Record Producer with a 30 yr History of 25-40 Albums / Singles featuring some of the Worlds Biggest known Artists, must also rely on other sources (Books) to be considered notable. When In Truth only a handful of people would read the book as compared to the Millions or records embodying the Producers Works are sold all around the world. However difficult, I do respect your guidelines, Do Articles that mention DJ flash's place in Hip Hop History such as this one qualify for consideration ? kindest regards ( https://www.amoeba.com/blog/2013/10/jamoeblog/hip-hop-history-tuesdays-los-angeles-rap-hip-hop-the-first-decade-pt-i-.html ) djflash 1957 03:34, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:17, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm so sorry it was unsuccessful. I think you were an excellent candidate. Maybe if I'd have challenged (ironically) some of the comments from supporters early on, it might have been different. Unusually, you were criticised both for being overly strict and overly lax in your interpretation of consensus. I'd encourage you to reflect on the opposes and continue your excellent work, and, if you're not too bruised, come back and try again some day. I'm sorry if I fell down as your nominator... RfX can be a tough place and if it's any consolation, you handled yourself with great dignity in my opinion. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 07:47, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
What Dweller said. Just wanted to chime in and let you know that I very much regret missing the chance to comment in your recent RfB. I have great respect for the work you do here, and your demeanor and level-headedness throughout the ordeal (and in general), is an example to be followed. Regards,
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Ok, thanks! I guess I pulled the trigger a little too fast - a few days ago the band created a page for itself (actually in Spanish), so I assumed this was spam too. Sorry, and thanks for taking the time to givE me an explanation -- ‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ᐐT₳LKᐬ 14:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Per [15] you are incorrect. Undo your revert please. Legacypac ( talk) 17:28, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
"discussion has slowed"but several days without comments when no reasonable editor would expect further input. Then, I disagree that consensus was "reasonably clear". That might be because I opposed the proposal but then again, your assessment that it was might be because you supported it. Lastly, policies are highly important pages which should always reflect consensus as good as possible which is why major changes to policies should be assesses by non-involved editors, see WP:TALKFIRST. See also what I wrote on your talk page regarding the appearance of bias. Regards So Why 17:40, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
widely accepted standard[s]need to be made after assessment by uninvolved editors stems from WP:TALKFIRST I mentioned above which, unlike the instructions at WP:ANRFC, is actually a policy. Regards So Why 18:00, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
The claim that a 42 Support 12 Oppose consensus is not reasonably clear stretches my AGF. Legacypac ( talk) 17:56, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Off course it's not only about numbers but no reasonable close would go against over 75% support. SoWhy claimed an involved editor should not close - yet as an involved editor they reopened. If someone does not like a close the correct thing to do is seek to overturn it in the approprite venue. Legacypac ( talk) 18:21, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
"Ending a discussion requires careful evaluation of the responses to determine the consensus. This does not require the intervention of an administrator, but may be done by any sufficiently experienced independent editor (an impartial editor not involved in the discussion) who is familiar with all of the policies and guidelines that relate to the proposal."(emphasis added) I think you and I know I am usually one to follow the rules more strictly than others (it has been mentioned once or twice in a recent discussion) but even I don't believe a close that clearly contradicts the aforementioned policy has to be formally challenged. Again, I am not saying the outcome was necessarily wrong but that changing policies needs to be the result of consensus as determined by uninvolved editors to safeguard that it is not seen as one editor making changes in favor of their stated preferences. Regards So Why 19:11, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
SoWhy reverted both my RfC close and my edits to CSD13 with zero contact or discussion (until after the reverts) in violation of [16] policy and has refused to WP:ADMINACCT except for the unbelievable assertion the consensus is not clear. There is no wikiwide implications. This impacts only if we use G13 or Mfd on some subset of about 6000 pages in a current backlog. Nothing about my close was secret or underhanded for I even posted about it at AN and there is no urgent need to reopen the discussion to prevent some catastrophic event. If there is actual objections to my close other then that I am not an Admin, a policy based Close Review at AN would be most appropriate. In the interest of not having an ANi about SoWhy's breach of policy I've requested that an uninvolved Admin review the close and if they find the same conclusion, they restore it. Legacypac ( talk) 19:30, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
BRD might apply to the actual CSD change but that is not contested. I put a lot of thought into rewlrding it to concisely state what it needs to say. We don't even need a RfC to reword a CSD, just make a change and see if it sticks. It's a stretch to say the "Good practices" wording under WP:PROPOSALS, which may or may not even apply to a CSD change, trumps the clear on point wording at Requests for Closures. Legacypac ( talk) 19:41, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Several of your statements and your quoting of policy are wrong. Nothing good will come of an Admin snubbing policy amd procedure so openly. Use the proper procedure if you want to challenge the close. Maybe I should not have done the close, but having studyed the policy and thinking about it for several days while waiting for the discussion to slow (not stop) I determined my close would be within policy and I wanted a first crack at rewording CSDG13 itself. You did not have time to refresh yourself on policy, did not discuss your concerns with me or maybe even consider how your Admin action would offend me before reverting. Shame on you. There is no big rush here. Legacypac ( talk) 19:54, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
please stop reprasing what I say in ways that are not correct to my meaning. As you may or may not have noticed in your hasty revert CSDG13 already repeated itself and needs a fairly substantial rewording to remain (or get more) concise during this change. There is no ambiguity about what types of pages it applies too or possible benefit to me by imposing my suggested wording. I only want the community to get the benefit of my thinking on how to reach conciseness. Legacypac ( talk) 20:31, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Also since only an Admin is permitted to overturn a close, your assertion you did not act as an Admin is interesting. Legacypac ( talk) 20:34, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
You know I lived in Germany for 18 years? I had a great time there and I miss a lot of it. I left just a month or two before the wall came down (that's what - 28 years ago?). There was a joke, said by Germans about themselves; it went something like this: Deutsche Friedhöfe sind voll von Fahrern, die im Recht waren. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 10:53, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
SoWhy: You declined the speedy deletion of Steven Suptic, citing that Tubefilter "could pass as a reliable source." That article currently has an AfD discussion here. Would you be able to provide evidence that Suptic meets the notability requirements to have an article? You said that "Tubefilter might pass as a RS in this day and age, needs more discussion." Since you appear to be somewhat invested in the topic, could you to take the time to contribute to the discussion there? Thanks. Clbsfn ( talk) 02:09, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello! I would like to ask you a favor. I have replied at AN/Requests for closure that I will close a specific RfC but an unexpected problem has occurred. My PC is damaged so I have to edit using mobile, but it can't open this very section in edit mode (maybe due to its size). I however have the template with the statement ready in my userspace. Would you mind if I asked you to subst it at the RfC?? ( using this permalink at summary of course). The RfC is at talk:Donald Trump ( the one for the use of "liar" and "lies" and the closure here -- Kostas20142 ( talk) 13:01, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
You deleted Talk:Marisa Lazo, as the talk page of deleted page.
Could you please email me a copy of this talk page?
I believe it is the first forum where I interacted with CommotioCerebri. I have a recollection that this is the first place I tried to explain to CC that the civil expression of disagreement is not a personal attack.
It's possible that my recollection is wrong: (1) that I was genuinely uncivil there, and I don't remember; (2) or that my explanation was insulting, and I don't remember; (3) that I merely thought I left an explanation as to why civil disagreement should not be considered a personal attack, but my browser crashed, or I was called away, before I hit save, or something like that.
I'd really like to know.
CC has made just 23 edits, so far -- at least under that wiki-ID. 18 of those edits are either excisions of material I contributed, or discussions of my contributions. I did warn them that focussing on one particular contributor's efforts was generally frowned upon.
On Talk:Marisa Lazo CC defended the edits of an IP contributor. I am pretty sure I specifically asked CC whether they made the IP edits. I can't remember now whether they ignored my question, or specifically denied being the IP, or perhaps merely implied they didn't make the IP edits.
I'd like to check what they wrote, as they did acknowledge, on someone else's talk page, that they had recently transitioned from making their edits under IP addresses, to using a named ID. I've edited on other, non-WMF wikis, like the Citizendium, which do not allow edits from IP contributors, and they have a marked increase in civility and decrease in vandalism. I certainly welcome any contributor to transition from IP contributions to named contributions. But I think anyone making this transition has a definite obligation to own up, if asked. We don't want any discussion where a single person is expressing one view, to look like multiple individuals hold that view, because they weighed in, using multiple IDs, or a named ID and and an IP address.
Thanks! Geo Swan ( talk) 00:37, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
FYI that SmokeyJoe has proposed a draft set of guidelines that were discussed at Wikipedia_talk:New_pages_patrol#Clarification_and_guidance_for_draftification. When I checked in with him last, he was of the view that an RfC at WT:Drafts would be best. Just giving you a heads up here so as to not crowd the VPR discussion. As always, thanks for all the work you do in bringing important topics to the community's attention :) TonyBallioni ( talk) 17:41, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi - I came across a deletion discussion for Formation 8, Googled them and quickly found some sources saying they were one of the most notable VC companies in their day. They are defunct now, but they raised almost USD$1 billion dollars in two funds, and were bringing 95% returns. I don't know how thorough a WP:BEFORE was done, since the sources were easy to find. I updated the article, and commented on the talk page. After a few days, nobody has commented or changed their votes, which surprises me and possibly underscores a behavioral economics flaw in the AfD process. Nonetheless, can I ask that you relist in the hopes that this new info can extend the discussion? I'm not sure if I'm allowed to, since I'm involved. Thanks! TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 01:00, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Do you really think you have acted responsibly in doing this? [18] BRC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.198.157 ( talk) 11:19, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy -- I saw you were someone who may be interested in "adopting" new users who are just getting experience in Wikipedia. I have an interest in becoming a better editor, and find there are a lot of policies that are taking some time to learn and understand. At the same time, I think the concept of Wikipedia is so cool - to have a community of people curating content in this way is truly unique. Might you consider 'adopting' me in the process of editing here and even learning how to publish a first article? -- DrNewYork ( talk) 17:46, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
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Dear SoWhy
Regarding the RapReviews.com Article
various artists :: West Coast Rap: The First Dynasty, Vol. 1-3 :: Rhino/Excello
as reviewed by Matt Jost.. [22]
In my Defense: I did not speak to the Reviewer . because the Article is an independent Review (Not an Interview) I do not know & have never spoken to the Author/Reviewer Matt Jost. Please take this in consideration when making your decision.
Here is another article from The Vinyl District.com that ref. DJ Flash several times. [23] Please consider both these articles when making your decision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djflash1957 ( talk • contribs) 06:39, 11 August 2017 (UTC) Best Regards
DJflash_1957 23:15, 10 August 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djflash1957 ( talk • contribs)
Hi, I'm writing because I really want to archive Chazz Miller's history. He is an actual person who is in danger of having his history of what he has done in Detroit erased if not documented. Too many new people are moving to Detroit and don't realize that there is already an Artist Village there can not be a new one, and this is the best way to document that so the young new people who are moving to Detroit realize this and understand better the city of Detroit and the People there in.
I live in Montreal so I am not in direct contact with this person. So there will be no meat puppet or sock puppetry. Just facts and history documentation. If you can help with this, I will be greatly appreciative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThatChickOverThere ( talk • contribs) 15:58, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
So I made many edits and changes. By any chance are you at the Wikimania conference Montreal? I hope that this is more appropriate
Hey there, I met User:ThatChickOverThere at Wikimania and we worked through the article together to sort out the issues of tone and add more sources. I think the topic is notable enough, and now that most of the WP:Peacock text has been removed, and some of the sources are being used more sensibly, I think it's OK for mainspace. Feel free to start an AFD if you think that a notability review is needed. In that case, please tag me so that I can give my input as well. -- Slashme ( talk)
It looks like you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lamont Gallery just as I was adding a comment (odd that I didn't get an edit conflict). I suspect you made your keep decision based on the sources presented, but I took a look at the NYTimes article, and it's not what you might expect (see my comment in the AfD). I'd like to request that you reopen the AfD and relist it for another week to allow people more time to evaluate the proposed sources. In particular, I'd like to see somebody find the Boston Globe source and evaluate that. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:13, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
This is with regard to Yash aradhay's wikipedia page was deleted and i contest the same. Yash Aradhya is a national champion in go karting and racing in the international arena. He has just turned 14 years and got his Formula-4 licence now and also won few National championship races in Formula-4. Request you to kindly Undelete the page of Yash Aradhya as we want to update his Formula-4 achievements immediately. Thank you Sujith Aradhya ( talk) 20:02, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
I see that you deleted a page called "Get Croissant" /info/en/?search=Get_Croissant
I am curious if there is any way I can see the original text of this page?
The Google serach returned the first sentence if that helps... "Get Croissant or (Croissant Coworking) is an American online marketplace software technology coworking company that provides on demand access to shared ... "
Thanks! Axcelis555 ( talk) 20:28, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy,
I have found a source which proves the notability of the author DJ Flash. The book is called Ego Trip's Book of Rap Lists ( https://www.amazon.com/Ego-Trips-Book-Rap-Lists/dp/0312242980/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1500200452&sr=1-1&keywords=rap%20lists). Click on look inside, then type in the search DJ Flash (I believe it's on page 33).
Yours,
Hrvoje Grahovac — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westcoast1978 ( talk • contribs) 19:56, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy,
DJ Flash here. I understand your reason for deleting the DJ Flash Page. I also Agree with Duffbeerforme When he said it was "An over the top mess of promotion, original research and dud sources" For that I take full responsibility. And I respect the hard work & dedication all of you put into keeping Wikipedia as a reliable source of information. The 10 + years "DJ Flash" was listed in wikipedia have allowed me the opportunity to reconnect with so many friends & colleagues that before the advent of the internet & wikipedia, I had no hopes of ever reconnecting. Although i retained my name DJ Flash (i was only a DJ for a few short years 1979-83) before becoming a Record Producer & Label Owner. the Page/Article focused on the Body Of Works I leave behind as a Record Producer. I admit i am not knowledgeable in all the rules of creating an article or Page. But i thank the many contributors & editors who have contributed to the page over the years. I will continue to donate funds to wikipedia & will always support your good works. Looking Back I wish the page could have been Saved, Edited and Sourced better. But i will live with your decision. When I began my career their were only 2 Flash's ..Grand Master Flash on the East Coast & DJ Flash on the West Coast ... Now i notice their are 100's of DJ Flash's from all over the world. If their is any way possible to recreate an edited version of the Page i would be most appreciative for your guidance & instruction & if not ... I will respect your decision ... Kindest Regards .. DJ Flash ' Djflash 1957 06:13, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank You for your quick reply
I will make a wholehearted attempt to provide reliable sources. As i read Wikipedia's "Criteria For Musicians and Ensembles" (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theater groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.
(If This Category Includes Record Producers Please consider this Link From Billboard Mag. Regarding an Album Concieved, Compiled & Produced by DJ flash) ( https://books.google.com/books?id=YQgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA112&dq=dr+dre+concrete+roots+billboard&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLwtGzk6LVAhXJ7IMKHWaSD7cQ6AEIPDAF#v=onepage&q=dr%20dre%20concrete%20roots%20billboard&f=false )
Also here is a Article about the Album in VIBE Mag. ( https://books.google.com/books?id=dywEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=dj+flash+producer+west+coast&source=bl&ots=Veo85MHM1G&sig=l1Mm09BZ4GYZ110ZEaCf_tOOuk8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjbwsmIj6LVAhVpwYMKHceqAg44ChDoAQguMAM#v=onepage&q=dj%20flash%20producer%20west%20coast&f=false )
If RHINO/Warner Bros. is considered A Major Indie Label. I Have Produced 5 Albums on that Label .please consider these Links ( http://www.rapreviews.com/archive/BTTL_westcoastrap1to3.html )
and ICE T "The Classic Collection" the album concieved, Compiled & Produced by Lee "DJ Flash" Johnson & mentioned in several Books Including Rolling Stone , All Music, etc... ( https://www.amazon.com/Trouser-Press-Guide-90s-Rock/dp/0684814374 )
( https://www.discogs.com/Ice-T-The-Classic-Collection/release/1922020 )
I feel as though these 5 albums may not meet wikipedias standards of Notability. Never the less I submit these Links for consideration. Thank you for your time and effort ,,, Best Regards Lee "DJ Flash" Johnson
' Djflash 1957 08:31, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
I will try to locate some things. It is rare for West Coast Artists to be featured in Books. Basically because Most Hip Hop Books are focused on East Coast Artists. Only recently have a couple Books been written about West Coast Rap Pioneers. Like i mentioned I'm not aware of all the requirements to be listed in Wikipedia. It is difficult to understand why a Record Producer with a 30 yr History of 25-40 Albums / Singles featuring some of the Worlds Biggest known Artists, must also rely on other sources (Books) to be considered notable. When In Truth only a handful of people would read the book as compared to the Millions or records embodying the Producers Works are sold all around the world. However difficult, I do respect your guidelines, Do Articles that mention DJ flash's place in Hip Hop History such as this one qualify for consideration ? kindest regards ( https://www.amoeba.com/blog/2013/10/jamoeblog/hip-hop-history-tuesdays-los-angeles-rap-hip-hop-the-first-decade-pt-i-.html ) djflash 1957 03:34, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Many thanks for the removal of AfD here - I can't think why it was proposed. Roy Bateman ( talk) 02:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
We shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking that because people are notable now, they always were. When Ed Sheeran was deleted in Nov 2006, he would have been 15 years old. The text of the article was:
“ | Ed Sheeran was born in 1991 and lives in Suffolk, UK. He first picked up a guitar in 2002 and soon after wrote his first song, Typical Average. He has written over 30 songs since then.
In March 2005, Ed recorded his first professional CD The Orange Room EP, which features five songs. In April 2005, he played his first solo gig and in June his music was played on the radio for the first time. Ed has been inspired by great teachers, including the American guitarist Preston Reed, the jazz guitarist Keith Krykant, the singer-songwriter Charity Quin, the opera singer Claire Weston and the singing tutor Richard Charlton. In October 2005, Ed started recording his debut album at Din Studios in London. The album is now available. It has been produced by Julian Simmons, who has recently worked with the Guillemots. The album features 12 new songs and a bonus track. Various outstanding musicians have helped Ed on the album including Jack Pollitt (drums), Jonny Bridgwood (bass) Fiona Brice (violin), Helen Rathbone (cello) and Martin Hay (synthesiser). The rap artist Alonestar sings on one track and Ed's cousin, the talented young Irish singer-songwriter Laura Sheeran, sings on various tracks. Another of Ed's cousins, Hannah Sheeran, plays the clarinet and sings. Ed is managed by his parents' company Sheeran Lock Ltd Ed has made a video for his song Open Your Ears with Bruizer Productions. The set featured the spray-painting work of two of the UK's leading street artists, Graham Dews and Gwen Liby. The video has been put on Ed's My Space and You Tube as well as the home page of his website. |
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It was a correct A7 deletion IMO. Indeed the current article (created in Jan 11) only has two sentences in the section "Music Career" that pre-date 2008... WJBscribe (talk) 11:50, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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SoWhy, I am wondering what the process is supposed to be here. I was just about to comment on the AfD for Syed Ali Raza Usama, and while I was searching for sources I edit-conflicted with you closing the AfD as delete. Given my comment below that I intended to post, would you have considered relisting instead? Sorry, I've never had this happen before. — Insert CleverPhrase Here 08:15, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello,
I noticed you deleted the article mentioned above due to its lack of notability. That being said, I have worked on a draft of this article on my sandbox and have provided sources with it. May I have your permission to please recreate the article? Hitcher vs. Candyman ( talk) 01:19, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
How do you feel about Wikipedia:Requests for bureaucratship/SoWhy 2? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 13:22, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
you know me: I'm happy to serve the community in any way I can and if you are willing to risk your good name nominating me, I'm willing to offer my services.
I'd seriously consider it. You often stand out for being calm and sensible. And if I've asked you the same thing twice (senility is fast approaching), I must have been on the right track twice. So here are some questions to suss this out:
-- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 14:34, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
That's reassuring stuff. Anyone you got in mind you'd like to co-nom (or maybe nom instead of me?)? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 15:14, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
The link at the top of this section has gone blue. Your turn to start answering questions and then transclude. Feel free to take your time, there's no rush. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 14:12, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
The personal life issues I allude to on my user talk may be about to explode. When they do, I'll be offwiki for a week. Would it be OK with you to pause? Sorry to be annoying, but this is serious stuff and I can't do a thing about it. I wouldn't want to abandon a nominee through the course of things. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 19:36, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
I came here for something else (see below), but does anybody mind if I throw a co-nomination on the pile? Or do people think I have done enough RfX nominations already this year and should just pipe down for the duration? In particular, I was thinking of pulling together some facts and figures for how many RfAs you've been involved with, how many candidates you've put forward, and how many of those RfAs have had your vote match consensus. I would offer to sort out the transclusion too, but I still feel rather guilty about GAB's RfA going full steam ahead without Dweller getting so much a chance to write a co-nomination statement, so it would be completely unfair to do that again. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:29, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Tentatively back. No objections to any co-nom you approve of, SoWhy. Want to go live? -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 12:04, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
My situation is fluid and at some point, I will disappear for a week or more, but it's unpredictable when that will happen and life needs to go on. Let's do it. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 12:26, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
I know you are taking a bit of a pounding at the moment, but I hope you will not withdraw. Seeing your calm and professional demeanor throughout the RfB so far and your willingness to answer questions at length has reassured me that I made the right decision in supporting your candidacy regardless of how it turns out. I am disappointed that you have encountered so much opposition, but that's life, I suppose. Your work is valued here regardless. 28bytes ( talk) 03:55, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
A belated note of thanks for the very kind suggestion you made at my talk page earlier this week. I've been traveling for work this week (you and I are in the same profession, it appears) and your message was the only thing that salvaged an exhausting, discouraging trip! You prompted me to give the idea serious consideration, and after a close review of relevant guidelines, I think it's a little too early for me. These are the two areas where I see myself falling short: (a) I have no content creation to speak of; my efforts here have been almost entirely in the realm of copyediting gnomery and anti-vandalism (with a bit of anti-copyvio work thrown in); and (b) I am far too lacking in knowledge of the necessary technical (i.e. coding-type) fine points. But, now I know all this! And perhaps we can revisit this idea in about six months.
Again, Herzlichen Dank; your opinion counts for a lot with me and I'm grateful that you took the time to share it. Take care! - Julietdeltalima (talk) 20:52, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
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produce the same output). As long as you keep on being willing to learn new things and are careful (using the preview button before using syntax you never used before for example), you will do fine.Hi SoWhy,
It's pretty clear that my proposal to expand A7 is failing miserably and with your in-depth analysis of the examples I gave to Ritchie333 I have concluded that it's time to withdraw it. Your precise application of policy at the discussion has swayed me from neutral to support in your RfB by the way!
Thanks,
DrStrauss talk 22:19, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
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The Resilient Barnstar |
For the most graceful RfX candidacy I have ever seen, you deserve this. TonyBallioni ( talk) 02:11, 30 July 2017 (UTC) |
I just wanted to say, regardless of how the RfB goes, I think you could be an asset to the community as an ArbCom member or trustee, so I hope you run. A campaign for one of those roles, even if unsuccessful, could help draw attention to some excellent essays you have written. 172.56.2.106 ( talk) 00:22, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2017).
Hello SoWhy, your RfB has closed without a consensus to promote being reached. Thank you for actively participating, many editors praised your ability as administrator and I hope you continue to support the project in that role. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 12:51, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
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That was a real shame. For a time it looked as though we'd be welcoming you as the newest bureaucrat, which would have been awesome; I grew increasingly disappointed as your RfB crept towards yellow and then into the red. At least we'll still have your service to Wikipedia and I'm pleased to see that you've not decided to pack it in - I'm glad. :) I'm delighted I had the chance to support you, SoWhy - delighted indeed. Acalamari 01:20, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm so sorry it was unsuccessful. I think you were an excellent candidate. Maybe if I'd have challenged (ironically) some of the comments from supporters early on, it might have been different. Unusually, you were criticised both for being overly strict and overly lax in your interpretation of consensus. I'd encourage you to reflect on the opposes and continue your excellent work, and, if you're not too bruised, come back and try again some day. I'm sorry if I fell down as your nominator... RfX can be a tough place and if it's any consolation, you handled yourself with great dignity in my opinion. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 07:47, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy,
Thank you for your assistance with closing discussions at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion; there certainly is a backlog over there that needs some attention, and I'm trying to find some to close as a "non-admin". Anyways, you may or may not know this, but if you cold, when you close or relist the final discussion on a day/subpage, could you please also remove the subpage's tranclusion on Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion (as I did here)? Thanks! Steel1943 ( talk) 22:42, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I'm strugglimg to understand your thought process in closing this as nc. Please can you add a rationale and perhaps expand on how you weighted the different votes? Thanks Spartaz Humbug! 22:51, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Dear SoWhy, Thanks for your relist. There was an Afd I was participating in that you relisted to generate a more thorough consensus. You said NPACTOR may not be the only applicable guideline and that two others could be applicable. I think the person in the wikipedia article meets those guidelines but someone else deleted the article. It was for Guinness World Record holder Bria Roberts. /info/en/?search=Bria_Roberts Can you reopen it? She's been notable and in many sources. http://www.nbcnews.com/video/can-woman-set-guinness-record-for-jumping-rope-with-a-leg-behind-her-head-760405571555 https://www.yahoo.com/tv/jump-rope-record-attempt-goes-poorly-except-it-totally-doesnt-on-today-203740017.html http://www.today.com/video/can-woman-set-guinness-record-for-jumping-rope-with-a-leg-behind-her-head-760405571555 http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-skips-with-one-leg-behind-the-head-in-one-minute http://www.spike.com/video-clips/9ni4z6/1000-ways-to-die- http://entertainment-newsss.blogspot.com/2013/11/bria-roberts-contortionist-attempts.html Those are links that I posted in the discussion. I have a magazine somewhere that she's in too. The person who opened the afd gave incorrect information about her, like claiming she was an extra in 1000 Ways to Die even though she was the main character and speaking through the show, and saying she was the only person to ever try for the world record when she wasnt. He was demeaning her and her place in entertainment even though she meets the guidelines set by wikipedia. [User:Floppy292|Floppy292]] talk 20:02 , 21 August 2017 (UTC)
On 22 August 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nasone, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Romans like to drink out of large noses? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nasone. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, Nasone), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Alex Shih Talk 00:03, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Great hook! — Calvin999 14:01, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi. I was writing about a historical watch and my page godt deleted because of some claim that i was a corporate page. I disagree with this one
André — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreot ( talk • contribs) 15:35, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm ashamed to say I would find it too soul-destroying to become involved in the draft space discussions. but you may be interested in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Poorly references sports biographies. If I understand right it is possible, with no guideline against, to use AWB to make bulk moves from main to draft space simply because the editor thinks it is a good idea. I can't make out whether the inclusion of Sir Edward Antrobus, 8th Baronet was a mistake because the editor denies it was included at all. A very weak article but, with its history, it shouldn't just be vanished. Thank you for thinking about the consequences of all this when very few people do. Thincat ( talk) 18:31, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 75#Keeping track of cross-space moves.....
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Someone brought at soft deletion you did to DRV at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2017 August 29. Doesn't look like the nom informed you so I thought I should :) TonyBallioni ( talk) 15:13, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for sorting out my issues with deletion sorting listing on Southamerican University... yes, it was me who originally listed them, my query was, why did it work when you listed them, and not when I listed them? I still can't see what I did differently or incorrectly, and I've put articles up for AfD before and never had this problem. I was just asking for another uninvolved pair of eyes to have a look and tell me what I did wrong. Anyway, it's all sorted now, so thank you very much for your help, hopefully we'll get some participation now. Richard3120 ( talk) 13:41, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2017).
This article was about my profile.My name is Jamil Ahmed Nizamani.firstly this was not uploaded by me,I just made some editing.I think this article deleting is unfair.Reason is that this belongs to a person who is living and have done something in life.Nothing happens if you do not upload it.I do not need this.Millions of people have performed better than me in this world.it is really very awkward for a person requesting for uploading his profile.I feel compulsion to let you know,that I can add something more in this article about me.Every one is unique so i am.I am suffering from dystonia still managing my job,business.Keeping my self busy with different activities on internet.you must read my post on my English language blog's post Beginning of the world peace.I am the only surviving son of my parents.My parents gave birth to four special children,three passed away in their twenties,one of special sister is living with me.There is much more that world needs to know.its up to you what you do.whatever you do just please let me know about your views.And pleas clearly mention the reason for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jnizamani ( talk • contribs) 04:50, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
You can read my ebook "Eleven words in English.This work is not published in hard form.you could help me to get it published.links for the book are available in the article.If I get recognition for my work,I have pendig books in my mind on group of words etc.My sindhi language blog contains 130 posts.I will keep writing it.Get it translated in English to understand it.I expect you wil review the article and restore it — Preceding
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I am really very thankful to you for your positive response.If so let the article delete permanently I do not have any other reliable source according to your standard.Its good i learnt something from your logical discussion.Permanent deletion will keep me now more relaxed.please do it at once.This state of no where will keep my attention diverted.As you delete it permanently just let me know.I think after permanent deletion,google will not search it.Still it shows it in search.
I want to bring this Afd to your notice which you relisted few days back, as you wanted to stop deletion as the film was going to release in some days and would have got coverages. I also participate at Afd to save worthy articles from deletion. But that article was a duplicate one, I have given brief explanation at that Afd. Anoptimistix ( talk) 13:02, 5 September 2017 (UTC) Anoptimistix ( talk) 13:02, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello SoWhy,
I visited a Wikipedia page yesterday (9/5/17) about Joe Herzenberg, the first openly gay official in the former U.S. Confederacy:
/info/en/?search=Joe_Herzenberg
and saw a notice at the top that it had been marked for deletion. Reading the rationale behind this proposed deletion, it appeared that the main problem was the article didn't meet Wikipedia's GNG standards. One reason for this was that the article linked to only one published obituary (from 2007) for Herzenberg, and ten years later that particular link is now dead. But living in Joe's adopted hometown of Chapel Hill, NC, I know there was substantial press coverage of Joe and his groundbreaking political career both while he was alive and at the time of his death in 2007. For example:
http://www.ibiblio.org/carrborocitizen/main/2007/11/01/obituary-joseph-a-herzenberg/
https://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/joe-herzenberg-1941-2007/Content?oid=1204878
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erik-ose/top-mccain-advisor-learne_b_138697.html
https://www.advocate.com/news/2007/10/31/north-carolinas-first-gay-elected-official-dies
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.obituaries/ugg6nL31dTI
http://andjusticeforall.dconc.gov/gallery_images/durhams-inaugural-pridefest/
http://outhistory.org/exhibits/show/out-and-elected/late-1980s/joe-herzenberg
I was in the process of creating a Wikipedia account today, planning to add some links to the article and comment on why I believed it shouldn't be deleted. By the time I got my account set up, you had already decided to soft delete it:
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Joe_Herzenberg
http://deletedwiki.com/index.php?title=Joe_Herzenberg
So if you could point me towards the exact page where I can request that this article be restored, that would be great. As a new user, this process is confusing. I'm not sure If I should be filing a request for undeletion or a deletion review:
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion
or if I should be contacting you like this on your talk page. Please steer me in the right direction.
Thanks a lot,
Outforgood ( talk) 05:25, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
{{
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at the top to request a review by an experienced editor. You can find the article restored now at
Draft:Joe Herzenberg. Happy editing and feel free to contact me again if you have more questions. Regards
So
Why
06:54, 6 September 2017 (UTC)Hi. An article which you soft deleted, Conphidance, was recreated. However, the same issues which led me to nominate it the first time still exist, so I nominated it the second time. However, something happened and it didn't pick up the first AfD, and now the link to AfD discussion leads to the closed first AfD discussion. Can you lend a hand, please? Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 12:44, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
Can you pleae tell me why do u delete Siddharth Ramaswamy article. All the details in that article was genuine and i given all the necessary reference links too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunanoop93 ( talk • contribs) 13:58, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi SoWhy I can send u reference links of Siddharth Ramaswamy
I hope all these links are Reliable Sources. Kindly restore Mr Ramaswamy's article. this discussion The discussion shows its contain lot of peacock term . i assure i will re edit the article , once i got it back and i can add more reference links too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunanoop93 ( talk • contribs) 17:08, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Regards Arunanoop93 Arun Mohan 18:42, 9 September 2017 (UTC) Arun Mohan 17:00, 9 September 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunanoop93 ( talk • contribs)
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Hi Admin! It's OK if Basit Ali (singer) page has been deleted. But you removed his name from the page in this edit. I don't ask you more, but it is my request to re-add the name only. Thanks! M. Billoo 09:58, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
There were two deletes and one keep. Is this not enough to agree the article should be deleted? Thanks. Contaldo80 ( talk) 08:49, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
I had placed the speedy tag on Peerless SC because the club fails WP:FOOTYN. Peerless is a club based in Kolkata City which plays only in Calcutta Premier Division, which is not a national level cup or tournament. The club does not pass general notability criteria either. That's the reason I had placed a speedy delete for the same. Coderzombie ( talk) 15:06, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Sigh... I don't really want to put the time into this... but point me to the record label that this was supposed to be a part of. I think there's probably a lot more cleaning up to do there. TJW talk 12:09, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Any chance you can move this deleted article into my userspace somewhere. Has now made two league appearances for Blackpool. I have a fairly detailed knowledge of The New Saints and Welsh Premier League, so from my userspace, I can clean up and expand whatever was done last time, and then create a new article? Thanks in advance Zanoni ( talk) 19:37, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
So I noticed you deleted the addition of CRMNEXT. Can you let me know what was wrong about it? Refer to: 20:49, August 15, 2017 SoWhy (talk | contribs) m . . (10,196 bytes) (-4) . . (Removing link(s): Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CRMNEXT closed as soft delete (XFDcloser)) Also the wiki page of CRMNEXT appears to have been deleted! This is a legitimate organization having a considerable presence in the CRM space in Banking Can you point me in the right direction?
Company site for reference: https://www.crmnext.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nik-Hill ( talk • contribs) 09:08, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marisa Lazo as delete. I request userification of the article and talk page. First, Lazo continues to be the subject of news coverage. This news article, on the general topic of "rooftopping", devotes several paragraphs to Lazo, calling her "Perhaps the highest profile example of this in Canada..."
When another crane-climbing incident occurred, in early August, the climber was an elderly homeless man who climbed the crane to protest the construction of luxury condos when many men like him had no housing at all. He explicitly distinguished his motives (protest) from those of Lazo, who the press dubbed "crane girl", who was apparently motivated by thrill-seeking.
I request userification to User:Geo Swan/Marisa Lazo. I request userification of the talk page, as well.
Thanks! Geo Swan ( talk) 16:04, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
I noticed that on
User talk:Citationhelper you stated that my signature does not contain a link to my user talk page, which indeed it does. perhaps there is something I missed, or you viewed an old signature of mine, but my signature is <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">'''[[User:Citationhelper|<span style="color:#170">'''''Citation'''''</span><span style="color:#880">'''''helper'''''</span>]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Citationhelper|talk]])</sup></span>
. Please tell me if I missed something or if there is something you want to elaborate on.
Thanks for your time!
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Hi Mr. SoWhy Previously i was created a bio article page in the name of Sooraj Palakkaran https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Sooraj_Palakkaran&action=edit&redlink=1. But unfortunately it was not verified, actually i insert all available reference link from different sources.So kindly give as a feedback or suggestion what was the exact problem occurred.Also i have to recreating the same article again what i will do for the same. -Vishnu- Wikiappu13 ( talk) 07:21, 19 September 2017 (UTC)