Hello, I believe this is my second message requesting you to let me know exactly where you would like for me to post my messages. I am new to Wiki and I don't know i I am posting it in the correct place! Your help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks much. Regards, Kashmirian123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kashmirian123 ( talk • contribs) 00:58, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Appreciate you clarifying this with me. BUT, I noticed then that the Kashmiri surnames section does NOT have a proper citation either(neither do MANY of the things written on topics concerning the Kashmir/Kashmiri people). I am not sure then as to why they are not being removed as well!!!! I will try my best to find proper sources on Kashmiri surnames, but as you can imagine, that might be tough as not much has been written on us, atleast not accurately! Surnames like Talib, Bamzai, Budshah and Sultan are Kashmiri(Pandit) surnames...How exactly is that inaccurate? I do appreciate the fact that verifiable sources are encouraged, but given that we are a small community, that might be just like finding a needle in a haystack! It will be almost impossible for me to find proper sources on this! If you want a comprehensive writeup on Kashmiris then these are important facts that are missing from these articles. Of course, that being said, I will most definitely find some proper sources to support the facts on Kashmir. Kindly ALSO let me know if I am posting this message in the proper space in your page! I do NOT know how to send messages on wikipedia and I do not want to post the messages in the wrong place. In fact, you will actually be helping me out! Thanks! Respectfully, Kashmirian123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kashmirian123 ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the notification. Actually, I had renewed the link since Iranica has changed its webhost. The correct link is this one:
http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/babor-zahir-al-din --
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i am not sure what you meant by Rawalpindi, it was not even listed when I made the revision. The references are all there, so I am not sure why you are so concerned about Sudhans, in fact the area itself is called Sudnuti by the Govt of AJK, All it says is that in AJK Rawalakot is the capital of the sudhan tribe. So if you have any issues please list them in the talk section so we can discuss this in a reasonable way.
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Mr. Sitush, i have noticed that you have reverted my edits in articles like Mahadik by showing cause of citation. Kindly, check whether this book was legal or illegal. Mahesh Madhukar Deshpande(Second edition August 7, 2011). Sataryacha Parisarat. Adv. Varsha Madgulkar, Lokvrat Publications, Satara. ISBN 978-93-80230-11-5.
Although they are the same people it demonstrates the difference in language. Punjabi's sat "Jatt-eh" where's are Harayanavi's and others say "Jaaat". The two spellings relect this distiction. Thanks SH 21:16, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
I would like to know why this contained OR apart from the fact that Fowler thought that it was OR. -- sarvajna ( talk) 20:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:: I expected a better explanation from you but never mind, well when something can be said about Romani people why did you just revert my revert of removal by Fowler, why did you just not work on it? May be I will request Fowler to do it, he has a better sense of reasoning. Coming to the ANI part of your comment, well I have no idea what I was warned about as the admin never provided me any evidence of my 'Hindutva POV warrior (whatever it means) even if I had shown that kind of attitude it has nothing to do with my reverts, so stop threatening me!!. Wikipedia is not your fiefdom. so stop thinking that I should follow you blindly.--
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P.S: I know you might just remove my say piss off or other such abusive words. You are the boss of your talk page, go ahead. --
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... this user page? -- regentspark ( comment) 13:39, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Please explain the deletion of the citations. I didn't see how the deletion discussion has any relevant content. -- MeUser42 ( talk) 18:39, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello User:Sitush, with ref to the above article i still dont properly understand (a) why some of the references etc have been removed by you and (b) how can i help improve this, as i created the article in the first place and tried to maintain what i could understand of the requirements? I have also left some queries etc on the Talk Page of the article and your help would be much appreciated, thanks AsadUK200 ( talk) 09:25, 8 October 2012 (UTC)AsadUK200
That user is adding harsh comments about a film and is currently engaged in a edit war, that's why I am editing on that user's talk page. But why are you behaving so harshly to me?---- Plea$ant 1623 ✉ 11:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
If you think that there is edit warring going on and you have tried discussing on the article talk page then you can either refer the matter to dispute resolution or report the user at WP:AN3. You need to be aware of our three revert rule because it is a "bright line" and there are virtually no exceptions to it, so if you have crossed that line then you will probably find yourself in a spot of bother also. - Sitush ( talk) 12:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sitush, since you blocked us from posting on the Autobiography talk page - I posted a draft on Yworo talk page - [1] I was hoping we could keep everything on one page. ?? Red Rose 13 ( talk) 04:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
If you disagree with me then by all means copy whatever you put on Yworo's page to the article talk page. - Sitush ( talk) 05:11, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Just found this interesting, not asking anything of you since you're more than busy enough with your current tasks.
I've been zipping through WP:AFC using their pretty boss automated tools, and have run across a bunch (easily a score or so) articles on Namibia, all from different editors, and all reasonably Notable topics like Seal hunting in Namibia. Maybe a quarter of them are marginally publishable, and only a quarter a right out unsuitable, so these folks seem reasonably conscientious.
All I can guess is that maybe some prof at the U of Windhoek (or whatever it's called) is assigning this as classwork? I've messaged a few of them trying to find the reason for this influx, and if it is a prof I'll see if we can get an Ambassador to touch base with him just to make sure the students are starting off on the right foot. As much as their articles need work, they're still way better than what we deal with in other areas, so I thought it an interesting indication of a region entering Wiki at a more measured pace and with some promising early efforts. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 15:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Well, I am not going to comment anymore now as I think I don't know how to. I am confused Ananyaprasad ( talk) 15:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
You are new-ish to Wikipedia and we should help you to settle in etc but that cannot be done at the expense of policies etc. So, if someone points out a problem and provides a link that gives you some more information about it, it probably would be a good idea if you actually read the link provided. The WP:CANVASS one seems pretty clear to me - is there something in it that you still do not understand? - Sitush ( talk) 03:30, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
You are no longer welcome to post on my page. You also clearly have a grudge and your behavior shows that you lack a good deal of sense. I no longer wish to interact with you and would hope you get the clue that your recent behavior is beginning to become disruptive.-- Amadscientist ( talk) 03:08, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Sitush, The Kaul article draft in my sandbox is much overdue. You said you would be able to check it sometime last month (or the month before). Kindly take the time and have a look. I have alrady left replies to your queries. - Ambar ( talk) 08:46, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, saw the following comments on a revert on my edit "(Reverted to revision 511251488 by 117.204.48.146: you cannot use a Pandit for this pov. ". Could you explain the pov concern. Is not very clear to me. - Ambar ( talk) 08:53, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Did you mean to revert me here? I'd reverted a new addition that cited a Wikipedia page as the source (and that page is itself unsourced). -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 05:40, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sitush, sorry for not getting back to you before, but I have already wasted months without much progess trying to make the Autobiography of a Yogi´s article neutral. Your are aware how Red Rose 13 manipulates good faith editors in order to attain SRF´s ends. So I started contributing in other book articles. I only write about what I know and I never made a false statement. Credibility is like honour. This is a copy of what I just posted at yet another disruption made by Red Rose 13 false allegations. In 2009 there was another false claim, made by another SRF´s undisclosed member. Please read my post. I am very interested in your feed back. This is an inter-wiki case of spam and sectarist - together with vandalism.
You both need to stick to what is verifiable and stop indulging in original research and synthesis: you both seem frequently to draw conclusions by mixing your personal knowledge with a hotch-potch of selectively chosen analyses etc and it really is not how we should be doing things. Try to de-personalise things, although I know that this is easier said than done! - Sitush ( talk) 10:20, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I had the references from Google Books and some other sources to the Minhas article but it was deleted again by someone. Now what is the reason for deletion of this article. Minhas 12:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Glad you are back after so many days! Large number of hits to one of the articles created by me made me to rethink whether I am on right track or not. Zakir Hussain Memorial Trust - a controversial subject right now needs guidance/copy editing urgently, in view of high hits. Can you have a glance and suggest something? Thank you for all the support.- Rayabhari ( talk) 09:39, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I can see this becoming yet another Indian corruption rolling news article and, frankly, we need less of those, not more. - Sitush ( talk) 10:07, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Respected Sir, Since after 31.03.2007 no body in the whole word took initiative to update the the page indian postal services, I took up the task on 08.05.2012 & spent daily 4-5 hrs in updating the the page; when going to the final touch, you crashed the the whole page,are you want that people of the world may not know about the latest development in india post pre-independence + after independence; if so i may leave updating the page, why to waste my time in updating wikkipedia encyclopedia. People expert like you will do better having thorough knwolege of the subject but remained silent years together since 31.03.2007 - Postmasterjalandhar ( talk) 16:03, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
In the case of this article, there were numerous problems. The most serious of these were copyright violations both of text and images: for legal reasons, these have to be resolved pretty much as soon as they are found. Other content was either poorly sourced or not sourced at all (in some cases, the source did not even support the statements). Aside from general style issues and rather poor English phrasing etc, the other major difficulty was that it was bloated. For example, we do not need a detailed history of Indian stamps in the article about the IPS because (a) the article should focus on the institution and (b) we have another article that can and does contain the detail relating to stamps, and it is linked.
Can the article be improved? Sure, and you are welcome to do so. But you must abide by our policies and guidelines. - Sitush ( talk) 16:37, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Sir, thanks for the guidance & giving knowlede about the rules of editting, I will ensure to abide by our policies and guidelines-- Postmasterjalandhar ( talk) 13:08, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
There is a voting process going on for selection of Images for Economy section of the India article. Voting ends on 15th November 2012. -- Anbu121 ( talk me) 22:19, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Sir, ageed with you start by you, i wanted to give just information upon the page IPS that department of posts India also has Philatelic Museum. Now modified only link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Philatelic_Museum,_New_Delhi mentioned there. Postmasterjalandhar ( talk) 01:16, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
I was about to PROD the article, but found you were trying to clean it up. I don't see a producer of two movies who is involved in a minor "spat" with a singer is notable. I didn't find anything in the way of references not related to the spat. But, I want to hear your opinion first as you have put some research into this. Bgwhite ( talk) 07:05, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Shrike ( talk)/ WP:RX 09:57, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Revision as of 15:24, 18 October 2012 edit IPS by is agreed to-- Postmasterjalandhar ( talk) 13:20, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
-- Anbu121 ( talk me) 19:03, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Appreciate you clarifying this with me. BUT, I noticed then that the Kashmiri surnames section does NOT have a proper citation either(neither do MANY of the things written on topics concerning the Kashmir/Kashmiri people). I am not sure then as to why they are not being removed as well!!!! I will try my best to find proper sources on Kashmiri surnames, but as you can imagine, that might be tough as not much has been written on us, atleast not accurately! Surnames like Talib, Bamzai, Budshah and Sultan are Kashmiri(Pandit) surnames...How exactly is that inaccurate? I do appreciate the fact that verifiable sources are encouraged, but given that we are a small community, that might be just like finding a needle in a haystack! It will be almost impossible for me to find proper sources on this! If you want a comprehensive writeup on Kashmiris then these are important facts that are missing from these articles. Of course, that being said, I will most definitely find some proper sources to support the facts on Kashmir. Kindly ALSO let me know if I am posting this message in the proper space in your page! I do NOT know how to send messages on wikipedia and I do not want to post the messages in the wrong place. In fact, you will actually be helping me out! Thanks! Respectfully, Kashmirian123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kashmirian123 ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
I work a lot in the area of articles relating to Indic communities and I know that it can often be difficult to find sources for what appear (to those in the know) to be statements that are as obvious as the sun rising in the east. Alas, they are only obvious to those who are in the know and not to the vastly greater number of people who are not members of this or that community etc - hence, they require the support of reliable sources. Fundamentally, no source = no statement.
With specific regard to list relating to caste, ethnicity and the like, you may benefit from reading User:Sitush/Common#Castelists and WP:NLIST, as well as WP:BLP and its little brother, WP:BLPCAT.. - Sitush ( talk) 11:40, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. Erm. I don't grok how anything going on here is in any way related to me. Or to you, for that matter. As Marvin Gaye said, What's Going On (song)? -- Shirt58 ( talk) 13:19, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Can the article be improved? Sure, and you are welcome to do so. But you must abide by our policies and guidelines. - Sitush (talk) 16:37, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Please guide how i can use link of news regarding 'first bara dakghar'along with snap of first gpo opened in kolkutta on 01.04.1774 published in e paper punjab kesari/bal kesari dated 30.07.2011,when link to the e paper is not being opened but i am having a copy of that issue Bal Kesari of punjab kesari jalandhar dated 30.07.2011. I could have attatched the file but there in provision upon talk page to attatch file G C GOYAL SENIOR POSTMASTER (GAZETTED) JALANDHAR CITY PINJAB INDIA Postmasterjalandhar ( talk) 02:05, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
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Mr sitush i think you are a very senior editor on wikipedia. Here 'senior' doesn't denote your age but your work on wikipedia. But I have a doubt whether you truly know whether the information you edit on wikipedia is really genuine or not. All the references which you consider as reliable are outdated. You consider the references of 1980's of the article Tyagi to be reliable but it's 2012 now and 32 years is a big period if you consider the speed at which the world is changing. I have a request to you just come out of these books see what's happening in reality. Just try to know what state of mind are people in today. You are providing the outdated and obsolete information by including these references.According to me it's better to provide exact and precise information rather than the one dwindling in its existence and i expect same from you.
For your better knowledge i would like to tell you that every change is cyclic in nature. The time period of this could vary but you can't prevent it from happening. So the best thing is to accept the reality by accepting the change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.202.187.232 ( talk) 08:29, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Yes, that was in my watchlist. The citation error problem was mentioned in last part of Talk:Rameswaram#Section_01! -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 05:03, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
I was unfamiliar with the slang "bollocks" that you used. [6]
I tried to look it up, my browser gave me the following warning, "WEBIMAGESVIDEOSMORE Your country or region requires a strict Bing SafeSearch setting, which filters out results that might return adult content. To learn more about SafeSearch requirements in your country or region, see How Bing delivers search results." (Browser: Safari, device IPad). I will provide a screen shot on demand.
You have indulged in profanity in the recent past when communicating with me. [7]
Please understand the international nature of the project and that civility is one of its pillars. You are requested to refrain from using slang/profanity. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:33, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
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Hey, I'd like to ask the exact reason the user User:Arctan371 is being punished for? He recently left his concerns on the Feedback dashboard ( /info/en/?search=Special:FeedbackDashboard/58083 ), and I feel a tendency to defend his cause, since I went through the same thing in the past, and my ethnic group is going through a slower version of the same thing. Depending on what the reason was for his punishment shall I defend him, of course. It seemed, at first glance, that his edits were constructive, with some of them having a source, though with some grammatical errors that could very easily be fixed. Why were these contributions not accepted and fixed? Why were they blocked, including the part with a citation? I'm curious, and slightly afraid that this dispute is involving vengeful tactics, instead of fair, balanced, and calm resolution from both sides equally. -- BurritoBazooka ( talk) 05:07, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Obviously, if you can get this message across and if you want to assist in finding decent sources etc (after reviewing the article talk threads) then that would be great. You need perhaps to be aware that they are also at present the subject of a report at WP:SPI - here - which was filed by someone other than me. This is not about the rights and wrongs of the persecution of people in Quetta but rather one of how we do things on Wikipedia. - Sitush ( talk) 05:18, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sitush and friends/enemies!
I was unaware of your expertise on India.
Ben Affleck's 2012 film Argo tells the story of the CIA's attempt to rescue hostages from Iran (after the 1979 Revolution) using a cover story of filming a science-fiction movie.
The movie was to have been based on the Hugo-award and Nebula-award winning 1967 novel Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny. ( Jack Kirby drew some story boards.)
Lord of Light uses Hinduism the way his This Immortal used Greek pantheism. The WP article on Lord of Light has no discussion of from Indian or Hindu writers, as far as I know. I would be interested in learning about such responses.
Sincerely, Kiefer .Wolfowitz 19:37, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Dear Sitush
There are many other articles like 2011 Mastung bus shooting, 2011 Hazara Town shooting and so on which are mentioned in the main article Persecution of Hazara people in Quetta. Do you believe that those articles should be nominated as well for deletion?
As far as this article is concerned, I will add the details of the incident like I have done in other articles (mentioned above). Now, nominating the article for deletion is a bit unfair, I just started it. Let it be completed then review it if it is copied or mentioned (in detail) in any other article then of course this should be nominated for deletion. Hazara Birar (Talk) 10:23, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
For a Hindu, Caste is very important. I don't know Sitush to which caste you belong and to which part of the India. Atleast I can find out that you don't belong to Andhra, and you are not Telugu. Without any knowledge of feelings of Telugu people and the Telugu castes don't write, edit, re edit the Wikipedia articles on major Telugu Castes. Only a Reddy would know about their caste, only a Balija Naidu would know about their caste, only a Kamma Naidu would know about their caste. Please don't edit articles on these major Telugu castes without much knowledge and insult us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.178.250.17 ( talk • contribs) 06:09, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Update: Sitush, My apologies for being harsh during my previous post in your talk page. I am not deleting that post (but you are free to do it) from your talk page. Please continue to manage the pages on Hindu Telugu castes, we appreciate your time and good work. I have read through Wikipedia's Five Pillars and will let you know of any new information which can be added to the Balija page.
It seems a pity to remove so much historical information.... granted it was unsourced but was it untrue??? and is there no source available? Regards, Ariconte ( talk) 05:01, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello Dost, i am glad you visited article Durga Bhabhi and edited it by removing a few images that i had uploaded. Since i am a new wikipedian and have little knowldege about image copyrights and wikipedia's policies for image uploads. The images that i had uploaded to wikimedia commons are rare images that are important for the article above mentioned , and would be a great help to visiter who is intrested in the article.i had found those images on internet ,and sources are mentioned with the respective images on wikimedia website.I guess you are a senior editor ,so it would be a great help if you could improve the required information for the images or you yo just could just suggest me ,what steps should i follow. i have already gone through the wikipedia policis but couldnt make much out of it.Articles are related to indian historical personalities(freedom fighters). Lets provide space on wikipedia to those who deserve the most.
TheBharatam 05:55, 16 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebharatam ( talk • contribs)
Hi Sitush! I've got the wanted pages of Stell's Nonconformist chapels and meeting-houses. Where I have to send it to? Greetings, -- Doc Taxon ( talk) 19:41, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
I have discussed a lot with you regarding inclusion of Gurjar as claimed members in Kshatriya page. Our discussions didn't get anywhere because I think you assume ownership of that very page or you are being very rigid about your thoughts. If you are failing to get to some conclusive discussion because you lack any solid point to revert my edits, why are you doing it. In addition to it, I've already said that I am open to talk on the "TALK" page of the "article" so STOP FLOODING MY TALK PAGE WITH NOTICES. I am again requesting you to go through the last content I added. It is completely valid and referenced. Still if you think it was not right, you should stop reverting my edits and accept that you need to study history deeper. Thank you. - Author 91 ( talk) 09:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
You seem to think that Gurjars are called that because of region. You seriously need to study history, specially INDIAN HISTORY to know that Gurjar is caste. You must be very knowledgeable about FEW things but don't act as if you're master of all. Because you know NOTHING of CASTE SYSTEM IN INDIA. I'd suggest, LEAVE EDITING ARTICLES ABOUT CASTES before you end up destroying complete Indian history.
I really do think that the easy solution here is to bin the list of claims, as I explained at Talk:Kshatriya#Claims_versus_reality. Sometimes we just have to accept that this place is incapable of depicting certain situations in a manner that does them justice and it is better to adopt a broad-brush approach to them rather than get entrenched in continual warfare over minutiae that satisifies no-one. Definitive lists are not the be-all and end-all of this project and, frankly, it is my opinion that we have far too many, far too poor quality lists. - Sitush ( talk) 11:19, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Learn to respect other peoples contributions and their hard work. Stop bullying new users. I've been noticing you're work as well, half of the time you're removing articles without references instead of helping cite references, and your'e reverting other peoples work recklessly, without a thought. If you're a senior here, act like one. we all care and work for Wikipedia. please dont ruin its sole purpose. give it a thought. Bhonsale ( talk) 19:34, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
I wouldn't read to much into description of "senior editor" etc here. I've been around a bit and, yes, there are the userboxes etc, but neither number of edits nor longevity are any guarantee of, well, anything much at all except (hopefully) experience in the application of policies. And it is policies that matter: we cannot continually ignore them just so that some random Joe can say what they believe to be correct when that is not obviously verifiable. For what it is worth, some time ago I was among a loose group of people who made substantial efforts to improve some high-profile articles concerning communities where editors were claiming kshatriya status in circumstances that were, at best, not presenting the full picture. Not all of those have been covered but I and others still spend a lot of time keeping them in order and I am still trying to develop some. We do what we can, where we can, when we can. Much of your own work seems to consist of copy/pasting a standard set of "See also" links. While useful if reasonably applied, if your concern is that I am cutting back in a manner that is untoward then one obvious thing that you could do is actually fulfil some of the citation requests etc. In the scale of things, See Also links are useful but citations are far more significant.
An advance warning: I am likely to be taking an in-depth look at Brahmin articles next year. They, too, seem to have escaped the policy net in many ways and it is not just myself who feels that some order needs to be introduced. For example, Fowler&fowler has been making noises for some time now. So, please do not get the impression that what I do is some sort of campaign aimed solely at a single community. - Sitush ( talk) 00:27, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
The announcement that Jclemens is standing for re-election to ArbCom - see here - is not good news to me. You'd think they had realised the problems and the divisiveness after the recent spat that saw many of their fellow-ArbCom members dissociate themselves from certain remarks etc. - Sitush ( talk) 09:41, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
I thought that you deserved something a bit extra for all of the amazing work you've done for the project.
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-- Tito Dutta ( talk) 18:56, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Someone pretty much messed up the whole page and changed the title to "Gujar" from Gujjar and removed side tamplet showing images of gujjar people, religion and population. Please fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.212.72 ( talk) 15:06, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
As far as the infobox images of people are concerned, well, you'll be able to see who did it by trawling through edit history. It may well have been me: there was a discussion about showing such images in Indian caste/community articles not too long ago. That discussion took place on the India Project talk page, where many people with an interest in Wikipedia's India-related articles discuss issues relating to those articles. There was a consensus that the images tended to cause more problems than they were worth. In particular, there are issues relating to our policy concerning biographies of living people, as well as matters relating to due weight and edit warring. Even if I was not the one that removed them, I do support the principle and that support is based on a fairly significant amount of time dealing with such articles. You could always propose that the images be reinstated but I suspect that you would not gain consensus for it, sorry. - Sitush ( talk) 16:57, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
You have removed many things in the vellalar page because of lack of refs. I have many refs to add, just don't have time. Just give me some time (end of this year) and I will add them. Then you can check & act (after discussion). Time is again the reason why I did not join the discussion between you & author91 on Kshatriya page. I will also work on this page soon. Rajkris ( talk) 22:45, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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Reverting my edi to Maithil brahmin was not proper for a community of some 5 million if one can write onlt a few names in notable and that too wrong depends on wikepedia to celebrate- Now there are pnly thiese anmes
Udit Narayan Jha- playback singer in Indian cinema (agreed_ Piyush Jha- Indian director and screenwriter ( We have not listned about this man, maybe but there are many more like him and the additions I had made allwere more widely known htan this name) Ganganath Jha- Indian philosopher (agreed but he was only a new name in the list of hundreds) Vidyapati- Hindi poet( wrong- h ewas a Maithili poer though Hindi too keeps him and for that matter banglaa too just to show their date some hundered years before thieir origin). Dr. Dhanakar Thakur ( talk) 05:21, 22 November 2012 (UTC) |
dear sir you deleted the information put under the Rajwada in Indore on the 19th of November , i am the Co-Convener of INTACH Indore Chapter a semi government organisation , the information you deleted is verified historic data and our organisation is the spearheading agency to document and upkeep the history of Indore , kindly refrain from deleting any content which you are unaware of in case you have a problem for verification of the history of Indore kindly contact intachindore@gmail.com. Co-Convener INTACH Indore Chapter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intachindorechapter ( talk • contribs) 13:25, 22 November 2012
Please also note that your username is contrary to our policy because it implies that you are contributing as part of a group. You'll need to abandon that account and set up another that reflects you as an individual, sorry. - Sitush ( talk) 19:47, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello Sitush, I see that here are certain additions that have been made to a page I have contributed to Jadeja. I cannot logically understand how someone's view on how the word Jadeja was formed is left untouched, yet an enriching addition to the article- a list of notable Jadejas is deleted? You cannot deny the existence of these mentioned individuals who have their own wiki pages. Please advise. Thank you. Tamasic 19:17, 22 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamasic ( talk • contribs)
Hello, thank you for the useful link Sitush. There is no denying that the individuals that have been mentioned as notable Jadeja are Jadeja by name and caste. Numerous books state that K.S. Ranjitsinhji Jadeja was born into a Rajput or Kshatriya family; and that he went on to rule the princely state of Nawanagar, now called Jamnagar. The suffix of his name 'sinhji' is a Rajput suffix. Hence I cannot understand why additions of notable Jadejas are deleted when clearly there is no denying that those mentioned are a) Jadeja b)Rajput by caste. I am further more confused that an inaccurate piece of information suggesting that the word Jadeja is derived from a Gujarati word is permitted. The word Jadeja existed before the community resided in present day Gujarat. It is more likely that the name is derived from Jam Jada with Jadeja meaning 'son of' in Sindhi as the community were based in Thatta, Sindh where Gujarati would not of been spoken. I look forward to your feedback. Tamasic 20:22, 22 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamasic ( talk • contribs)
As far as the etymological thing is concerned, if you doubt that the source is reliable then you'll need to explain why it is unreliable (this might include it being a fringe theory). Otherwise, the quotation seems to be valid and can remain in the article - it is a single sentence and so hardly undue weight. Your speculation about an alternate etymology, which you think is more likely, is just that: speculation. We cannot engage in original research here and so you'll need sources to support it.
Wikipedia is not a perfect environment for conveying information. This does mean that from time to time things will appear that local knowledge etc suggests is incorrect. But we have to have some sort of system otherwise it will be anarchy, with everyone saying whatever the heck they like. Hopefully, the number of instances when local knowledge and reliable sources diverge will be very few. - Sitush ( talk) 20:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello again. I have stated that 'sinhji' is a Rajput suffix. I have not used the word 'uniquely'. I agree with you, being a Rajput does not make you and Jadeja. Jadejas are a community belonging to the Rajput caste. With reference to K.S. Ranjitsinhji, he was born into a Jadeja family and I am sure that sources citing this information exist, it is how I myself am aware of this fact. To the inaccuracy issue of McLeod's small statement, it may be a single sentence but it is offensive as it is clearly inaccurate as I have stated in my earlier post. I am aware that Wikipedia is not perfect for conveying accurate information, this conversation stems from a case in point; yet with the tools and systems available the quality of articles can be maintained, improved. It is up to individuals like you and myself to aid this. I thank you for your kind time and when I have more time on my hands, shall improve the quality of the article in concern with references from reliable sources whose information is culturally and historically accurate- as the latter is imperative. Tamasic 20:57, 22 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamasic ( talk • contribs)
I undid the deprodding as you convinced me about the probable unrealiability of the sources and the non-proofed existence of this clan. Regards, Cavarrone ( talk) 13:09, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Or we may not. I have no interest in the topic of Jats, clans, caste or other matters, nor any expertise in those and similar areas. My thinking is solely that the articles in this topic area are in great need of substantial improvement. To me that improvement is best made by "Cite it or it goes" as a philosophy with all articles. Indeed that is a philosophy I stand by in all areas of Wikipedia, not just this one. I am singling this one out for special attention because it is a set of many highly similar articles, all purporting to be on the same topic, and each overlapping greatly with its neighbour article. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 19:13, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Long time no see. How are you? I heard you had some health issues recently. Hope you are feeling better now. I don't understand why you lifted some notable names from the List of Nadars article(some had refs like mla k.pandiarajan) and left some names to remain on the page. Could you please explain? Mayan302 ( talk) 15:59, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
I won't be leaving it alone for long because they are breaches of WP:BLP, but I'll give it a few days before returning. - Sitush ( talk) 16:04, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Hmm. Ok. It's pretty hard to get people talk about their caste in a state like Tamil nadu where people dont speak about a person's caste in public. It's more like using bad words(even though casteism still exists). Perhaps you should just have to remove the names or just delete the article. I ll see what I can do. But I am quite sure that there are not many refs which could satisfy this criteria. Glad to know you are getting better.TC. Mayan302 ( talk) 16:24, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
I placed the edit points in capital letters because the original merger discussion was removed without proper discussion, so I wanted to make sure it was seen this time. In my actual talk page discussion I had to be brisk to make sure there were no communication barriers, as some of the editors did not appear to be fluent in English.
It is important to adhere to the message of the website and maintain objectivity. Merger discussions cannot be removed without proper discussion. The discussion under the main Tyagi page was regarding merger with a different article -- Bhumihaar -- which apparently no longer exists. The discussion on the Tyagi (Muslim) page did not address the issue. As such, I reinstated it.
Again, I really have to emphasize the importance of religious neutrality on this website. Thank you for helping the discussion along. Parsh ( talk) 10:27, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Also, I apologize if I gave you the impression of shouting. That certainly was not my intention. Parsh ( talk) 10:30, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello Sitush,
We have not met before, but I am very impressed by your dedication to the site. In regards to your point, I am certain I started the discussion 2-3 years ago, but somebody deleted it. I am trying to make sense of the extensive deletions and rewrites of the main article, but I am certain it is was deleted. I believe my discussion is still present on Tyagi (Muslim).
If I am mistaken in my old age, and cannot find it, I will change the date to November 2012 and treat it as a new discussion -- you are of course correct, the discussion needs ti be on the talk page. Please let me know if there is anything else I could do to make sure this discussion proceeds in a calm and reasonable fashion. Parsh ( talk) 10:50, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Sitush,
Sure, that's completely reasonable, I'll do it.
I'm looking through the edits, and it is pretty overwhelming. I think it may either the version I had written in 2007 or then one from 2010 (you can see my name on the edit history), but there has been a lot of nonsense that has flooded the page and I will likely have to start something new with more accessible references.
Looking back, to when I first rewrote the article 6 years ago, I have to admit there were some District Gazeteer claims that I simply reentered without verifying myself, even back then. I have hopefully learned a trick or two since then. Either way, I will restart the discussion as you suggested shortly. I am first trying to make sense of when the division between Muslims and Hindus occurred (the last name is Sanskrit and dates back to BC, several millenia before Islam existed). That seems to be where everything started. I am going to have to retrograde to the Tyagi (Muslim) article first, to see what they've been writing about.
Man, I feel like quitting before starting. Well someone has to do it. Thanks for pointing out that I hadn't actually started a discussion, apologies again if I came across as being short with you. Parsh ( talk)
Sitush, I have started a new discussion as you suggested with some basic references. I am going to purchase a copy of the 1990 District Gazetteer, as I cannot find it online and it appears a large portion of claims relate to this text. My suspicion is the text does not contain any of the information asserted. If you have a copy, or can verify it somehow that would be helpful. Otherwise, I will update as my research proceeds. Thanks again for keeping an eye on the page.
By the way, as you noted earlier, the merger discussion will likely end up just being the two of us. If that is the case, how long do you suggest I wait before merging the articles? Parsh ( talk) 12:48, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
To be honest, I don't usually like editing articles about religious conflict because it's such a pain with so many covert agendas. I think I will have to read the original texts because I don't trust most of whats been written with the religious aspects. It's okay, although I'm not of a specific religion it's good to learn about my heritage. You must really love editing to put up with this stuff all day, or you're a glutton for punishment. Either way, thank you for your editing pen. Looking at the history of the article, I can't believe how patient you've been. Parsh ( talk) 13:43, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
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Whether now or any time in the foreseeable future, any RfA by me is likely to be pretty controversial. I mean, the entire process seems to me to be increasingly heated anyway but with my background on the caste articles etc I have built up a sizeable number of "default opposers". By that I mean people who will oppose simply because it is my sig on the end of a message, at the top of a proposition or in an edit summary. There has been evidence in the past that at least some of these people organised support for their position off-wiki via Orkut etc & I would expect them to come out in force for a RfA.
There is also another issue: although I think that generally I do take the frequent abuse and intransigence at disputes fairly well, I blip from time to time and one of those blips is very recent. Sure, my rather frequent summons to WP:ANI and similar seem always to end up in my favour but being a semi-permanent fixture there might will be seen as a problem for any prospective admin. Short of swapping caste articles for, say, the history of defunct Mancunian engineering companies, amateur botanists of the 19th C or British bareknuckle boxers of the 18th C (all of which I've meddled in), I don't see my ANI visits deteriorating any time soon.
Finally, there is a personal issue: I remain somewhat unhappy with goings-on in a recent ArbCom case and while I've reconciled myself to the situation generally, I think that I need a bit of time to be sure. That might take a few months or, depending on who is elected to ArbCom in the next few days, it might be quicker. This is a very specific issue and I will settle down but it is quite odd that I've become more concerned about a procedural matter (and what I consider to be a gross insult by somone who should have known better) than all of the stuff that is usually thrown at me. - Sitush ( talk) 22:16, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Very rarely do I see a list that I recommend to be changed to a category. INdeed the more I consider this one the more I see that a category is important and the list must go. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 08:18, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
There is nothing wrong with having both a list and a category and indeed when someone proposes an either/or at AfD or CfD it is my experience that the proposal almost always fails. However, I've set out my logic at Talk:List of Indian castes and I think that there are two possible outcomes: the first is a massive clean up of the list that at least makes it more manageable (although it will never be possible to resolve all of the issues I raise), and the second is indeed deletion. I was hoping that some sort of meaningful discussion could be had in that thread prior to any AfD - mainly, in case I am missing some crucial point - but I must admit to not being optimistic that it will happen. If you want to take it to AfD then feel free, but I've committed myself to allowing some time for people to come up with suggestions and I'll stick with that for a week or so. - Sitush ( talk) 08:35, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks again. Parsh ( talk) 13:48, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Well, the more I look, the more I'm noticing your name everywhere. And someone always seems to be mad about something you removed! :) But always a cool head that I've seen. 78,000 edits is a hell of a lot of patience. Thanks. Parsh ( talk) 14:13, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Cypher.Oracle ( talk) 02:21, 25 November 2012 (UTC) Satti. Hi, I just saw your amendments. What reasons, you removed the facts?
hello and thanks for your edits in Buttar. You removed much, specially the list of villages, many of them has own articles and were sourced; why you removed them? And you removed a reference to Internet Archive saying not reliable, I couldn't understand why it's unreliable or the census? I think it's good! -- itar buttar [talk] 14:35, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for the support. Can you please have a glance at Kalanos? Is the article cluttered with citations? Rayabhari ( talk) 15:47, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
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I moved the dab to a more appropriate place and moved Bhil Vasava to Vasava with a hatnote. — Xezbeth ( talk) 14:16, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
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Hello this is Whitetararaj, you have made a mistake. I am living in Jubail. Please, you should let me to write the tourism of Jubail. —Preceding undated comment added 10:11, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi sitush,how r u, actualy I have writen so much about the Gheba Tribe but Unfortunately it was deleted again again.Why is it so. If Ghebas Returned themselves as Mughals ,than there should be no Problem for you or any other to Called them as Rajputs. Now the Ghebas are Identifies himselfs as Mughals and In write As Mughal Gheba. If some one has any dout,he can chek out ,and come to Gheba villages in Fateh jang. Now Uses the Title of Sardar .And one thing more the British writers writes about only the bioghrafies and Progeniter of One or two villages ,but here Ghebas Having 30 to 35 villages in which they are living and More than 20 villages where the landlord Are Gheba sardars but the Cultivator are Malyaar Awan .So kindly i have a request to you that consider my Writing about Ghebas and please dont delete my words in Article Gheba.Thanks hoping for a Favorable reply.Raimughal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raimughal ( talk • contribs) 10:22, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Sitush, I had a small request, if you look at articles that are not history but mythology based as well. I am working on an article Parashurama for good article submission, and I was hoping for an outside eye to look at the article quickly and point out things that I was missing. If that is not your forte, it is no problem. Thanks, Parsh ( talk) 06:19, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Does no votes on an AfD mean the same thing as a no consensus? Obviously there is atleast 1 vote for delete; and a no consensus cannot be establishedf as there are no votes against. The policy says nothing that the AfD must be closed as no consensus. The article in concern is this TheOriginalSoni ( talk) 14:53, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I am really glad that you are back. I have created Sher Ali Afridi and can you kindly glance at it and tell me whether the subject is notable? Thank you. Rayabhari ( talk) 17:32, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Can you kindly suggest me whether Kalanos, biography of a historic person, meets notability requirements? Thank you. Rayabhari ( talk) 15:37, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Kindly advise me, whether this is a reliable source [8] Thank you. Rayabhari ( talk) 15:36, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Please make the correction. You claimed to rely on the NCBC lists. Despite having proved their FC status, you still have not updated it. Akashasr ( talk) 02:24, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sitush, Your advice is noted. However my main concern leading to said changes are base on the point you stated that the term "Colombo Royalist" is a journalistic device and not a generally recognised alternate name. I have mentioned so in the talk page and would like your input on it. Thanks. Cossde ( talk) 04:33, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
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Just prior to your edits on Reddy, Edunt made [en.wikipedia.org/?title=Reddy&diff=526199971&oldid=526197595 this edit], which seems dubious to me. But I figured that you had seen it given you edited afterward...were those edits okay? Qwyrxian ( talk) 00:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
During the "Death of Bal Thackeray" deletion discussion you write "Btw, a redirect would be the quick solution, I guess. That probably could have been boldly done but given the controversial nature of Thackeray and also the identity of one of the main contributors, you've done the right thing in being circumspect." Would you clarify whom you allude to? Just curious. Don't answer if you wouldn't like to. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 08:17, 4 December 2012 (UTC) Please tell me what can I do sir?-- Piggy58 ( talk) 14:12, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
Sir it is not copyright material. I take this matter from old book published in 1903 The army of the Indian Moghuls: its organization and administration — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piggy58 ( talk • contribs) 14:24, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
ok. Thanks-- Piggy58 ( talk) 14:44, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
ok. Thanks.You are a good reviewer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piggy58 ( talk • contribs) 13:46, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
at that and just drop me a note on this talk page if you have any queries or get a bit stuck. - Sitush ( talk) 13:59, 4 December 2012 (UTC) Sir. Removal of matter under ahsam head is also better to improve the article. Because a article under this head also present. Ahsham (Mughal Infantry)-- Piggy58 ( talk) 07:06, 7 December 2012 (UTC) Dear Sitush. I noticed you reverted my edit. If you actually look at the edit that was made you will note that no unsourced information was added, and no sourced information removed. The edit merely concised the information in a more presentable manner and removed unnecessary detail that can be found be clicking on the link. In future you should be careful to check other people's edits before you undo them unnecessarily.
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No big deal; I wasn't really sure, but it just seemed kind of odd. I don't feel passionately about it, so I'm fine just letting it go. Go Phightins ! 22:07, 9 December 2012 (UTC) Hi. Can you kindly have a look at Koraga people and my edits there. Thank you. Rayabhari ( talk) 17:05, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, My request for adding modern name for Jai Chand you asked for an authentic ref. Quote : "In Northern part of India, the Rathore (or Rathor or Rathur or Rathod or Rathour) is a Suryavanshi Indian clan." From Google books"Gorkhas: The Warrior Race By Bandana Rai" http://books.google.com.pk/books?id=keEl6QKnuoYC&pg=PA147&dq=rathore+%26+Rathod&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XcjFUOmKEMuk4ATQ04DgDw&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=rathore%20%26%20Rathod&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baitaal ( talk • contribs) 11:51, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
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Plz note I am new to this wiki editing. Unable to respond to ur changes on talk page, hence writing here. First thank you for adding - Goyal further said "Shiv Sena ...". Without the text Goyal further said " it was not conveying the meaning that it was said by Goyal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhD09 ( talk • contribs) 14:31, 14 December 2012 (UTC) Pardon my intransigence at your edits on the Samra page. But I find it a bullying act, removing painstakingly researched and collected material posted by me over a period of two years. You have whimsically removed well cited sources like James Todd, whose book Annals and Antiquities of Rajasthan' is considered a masterpiece in Rajasthan history, and whom you say is an unreliable source. So, Magasthanes is an unreliable source as well! I have read his Indica well enough before posting it here. No wonder you are the most reliable source here! First prove that they are unreliable sources, and I will concede. I have personally verified sources before posting them. Secondly, you have removed the name of the Villages where Samra gotra people live, which you have no reason to discard. I have lived in one of them, and in this case Wikipedia is acting as a source of information to and not just as a compiler of published information. I would have appreciated if you had really tried to remove the uncited Prominent Personalities, which I have regularly filtered, if you check my history. You removed winners of Mahavir Chakra, MLAs etc. If this is not vandalism, what is? I know you would love nothing more than bombarding me with some Wiki mumbo jumbo and warnings. Still I would request you to understand that knowledge is not a one-way street, open your mind to the world. Just by editing more pages, you dont become an authority on all subjects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kulveer ( talk • contribs) 08:34, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to thank you for reverting some edits of me. This page is being hammered and an year of research was initially removed by you, and then some other guys removed sections on Prominent Personalities, even though i had painstakingly given links....hope u can review and revive some of them, I seek your help in reviewing them When I tried to delete this as you requested, the system replied that the page had more than 5,000 revisions so would have to be deleted by a steward. (I knew the history of the Jats was complicated, but I didn't know it was that complicated!) However, while I was composing a message for you, the delete seems to have gone through. Maybe I have super-powers I didn't know about. Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 19:44, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Kindly review my edits in Koraga people. Thanks for all the support. Rayabhari ( talk) 16:48, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Mkdw ( talk) has asked me to undelete this and userfy to him. I am reluctant to go against the delete verdict of the AfD: please comment at User talk:JohnCD#Reconsider deletion of Userfy. I have also asked Spinningspark's view as closing admin. Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 22:15, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
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Elites in India Was so glad to see your magnum opus hit the front page! I'm sure it will ruffle a few feathers in quarters-of-supporters, but hopefully the diligence you've applied in sourcing will give folks some new perspective. Nicely done, and maybe someday I'll get far enough along on Shivaji to make a move for GA/FA. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 19:39, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I have reported the Ali Ahmed Kurd article issue at BLP Noticeboard. OrangesRyellow ( talk) 09:03, 24 December 2012 (UTC) See WP:AN#request admin help to close improper AFD. -- Orlady ( talk) 02:45, 25 December 2012 (UTC) But there's no need to look if you are indisposed. It's not about you. -- Orlady ( talk) 02:47, 25 December 2012 (UTC) I mentioned your name at wp:AN#request admin help to close improper AFD. Your commenting there and/or at the new AFD opened by Orlady about the List of Scheduled Castes would be appreciated. I personally would appreciate your truthful view about the validity of the topic for Wikipedia. Thanks, -- do ncr am 02:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Seasons greetings to you and yours Dougweller ( talk) 13:48, 25 December 2012 (UTC) Drmies suggested not overwhelming your "little smartphone" with comments here, but... the heck with Drmies. Best wishes for a short and successful stay in the hospital, and a speedy return. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:19, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
We have been engaged in a discussion at various pages, I am taking a break from Wikipedia, not that I won't edit at all, but I may not be able to be prompt in replies, so please consider that I have temporarily disengaged myself from our discussions, I have written my final replies to various threads, and that is all for the moment. Thanks. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:52, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi, please see the talk section. I have replied to your query there. Thanks. Sreejiraj ( talk) 19:40, 27 December 2012 (UTC) thanks for input.. just checked, you removed it altogether.. that I think is better.. anyway, could you provide me with any documented reasons on why 'to impose modern mores on historical statements' is not good? It would be nice to have a perspective on editing. (I am not very clear of talk page editing, so you may get double notification of edits on my page and here!) Mittgaurav ( talk) 21:01, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Question. I've just found Vaniya Chettiar, and stubbed it. I found what appears to be a reliable source stating that they are an "Other Backwards Caste" in Kerala. Is that the same thing as an "Other Backwards Class"? I seem to recall you saying it's not. The ref is linked in the article; feel free to rephrase as necessary. Qwyrxian ( talk) 00:27, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm a little worried: I don't actually know of any requirement in WP:BLP that people self-identify for ethnicity (of which we can assume caste/class is a reasonable analogue). WP:BLPCAT says we have to be especially careful with categories, and says we need self-identification for religion and sexual orientation, but not for ethnicity. BLPCAT is specifically more restrictive than general BLP requirements, is my understanding. Am I missing something? Qwyrxian ( talk) 15:26, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello Mr. Sitush, I would like to inform you, that all changes were reverted by you about Rohtak article. Please let me know, why are you reverting the edits done by users about city. After all the people staying here, would not contribute wrong. Some users have contributed incorrect and sparse information (see the Current Article) and you are letting that all information remain. I am sure the information this article is providing presently is not up to date and even so sparse to get to someone's mind. You can have a look to other articles or other cities of Haryana, so many users are changing the information about their cities, why not have look to them. Why are you only reverting the good edits done by some faithful users, to provide the viewers better information. Is there any personal reason, that you just want to make the City's Reputation to be down, even after there have been so many developments city and about all that, the information was added in article yesterday Dec 28, 2012. But all those changes were brought down, and replaced by your previous article state. I even provided the reference links, where one can verify the information, that I added yesterday, but still the changes (the hard-work) was reverted. This is unacceptable, as Wikipedia is an open source website. The other users have a right to change incorrect information to correct one, and if you are the moderator of India's Wikipedia, then make sure you are performing your job well. I shall be personally complaining to Wikipedia about your Behavior, and all what you are providing to users. Than you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.206.187.152 ( talk) 11:43, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Seeing as you have 81,000 edits, and are autopatrolled and a rollbacker, and you've been editing 2012 Delhi gang rape case, is there any reason you haven't requested reviewer rights? It's probably one of the most-viewed articles under P.C.-protection, so the more reviewers who have it watchlisted, the better. — Francophonie&Androphilie( Je vous invite à me parler) 13:01, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hello, I believe this is my second message requesting you to let me know exactly where you would like for me to post my messages. I am new to Wiki and I don't know i I am posting it in the correct place! Your help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks much. Regards, Kashmirian123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kashmirian123 ( talk • contribs) 00:58, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Appreciate you clarifying this with me. BUT, I noticed then that the Kashmiri surnames section does NOT have a proper citation either(neither do MANY of the things written on topics concerning the Kashmir/Kashmiri people). I am not sure then as to why they are not being removed as well!!!! I will try my best to find proper sources on Kashmiri surnames, but as you can imagine, that might be tough as not much has been written on us, atleast not accurately! Surnames like Talib, Bamzai, Budshah and Sultan are Kashmiri(Pandit) surnames...How exactly is that inaccurate? I do appreciate the fact that verifiable sources are encouraged, but given that we are a small community, that might be just like finding a needle in a haystack! It will be almost impossible for me to find proper sources on this! If you want a comprehensive writeup on Kashmiris then these are important facts that are missing from these articles. Of course, that being said, I will most definitely find some proper sources to support the facts on Kashmir. Kindly ALSO let me know if I am posting this message in the proper space in your page! I do NOT know how to send messages on wikipedia and I do not want to post the messages in the wrong place. In fact, you will actually be helping me out! Thanks! Respectfully, Kashmirian123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kashmirian123 ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the notification. Actually, I had renewed the link since Iranica has changed its webhost. The correct link is this one:
http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/babor-zahir-al-din --
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i am not sure what you meant by Rawalpindi, it was not even listed when I made the revision. The references are all there, so I am not sure why you are so concerned about Sudhans, in fact the area itself is called Sudnuti by the Govt of AJK, All it says is that in AJK Rawalakot is the capital of the sudhan tribe. So if you have any issues please list them in the talk section so we can discuss this in a reasonable way.
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Mr. Sitush, i have noticed that you have reverted my edits in articles like Mahadik by showing cause of citation. Kindly, check whether this book was legal or illegal. Mahesh Madhukar Deshpande(Second edition August 7, 2011). Sataryacha Parisarat. Adv. Varsha Madgulkar, Lokvrat Publications, Satara. ISBN 978-93-80230-11-5.
Although they are the same people it demonstrates the difference in language. Punjabi's sat "Jatt-eh" where's are Harayanavi's and others say "Jaaat". The two spellings relect this distiction. Thanks SH 21:16, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
I would like to know why this contained OR apart from the fact that Fowler thought that it was OR. -- sarvajna ( talk) 20:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
:: I expected a better explanation from you but never mind, well when something can be said about Romani people why did you just revert my revert of removal by Fowler, why did you just not work on it? May be I will request Fowler to do it, he has a better sense of reasoning. Coming to the ANI part of your comment, well I have no idea what I was warned about as the admin never provided me any evidence of my 'Hindutva POV warrior (whatever it means) even if I had shown that kind of attitude it has nothing to do with my reverts, so stop threatening me!!. Wikipedia is not your fiefdom. so stop thinking that I should follow you blindly.--
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P.S: I know you might just remove my say piss off or other such abusive words. You are the boss of your talk page, go ahead. --
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... this user page? -- regentspark ( comment) 13:39, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Please explain the deletion of the citations. I didn't see how the deletion discussion has any relevant content. -- MeUser42 ( talk) 18:39, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello User:Sitush, with ref to the above article i still dont properly understand (a) why some of the references etc have been removed by you and (b) how can i help improve this, as i created the article in the first place and tried to maintain what i could understand of the requirements? I have also left some queries etc on the Talk Page of the article and your help would be much appreciated, thanks AsadUK200 ( talk) 09:25, 8 October 2012 (UTC)AsadUK200
That user is adding harsh comments about a film and is currently engaged in a edit war, that's why I am editing on that user's talk page. But why are you behaving so harshly to me?---- Plea$ant 1623 ✉ 11:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
If you think that there is edit warring going on and you have tried discussing on the article talk page then you can either refer the matter to dispute resolution or report the user at WP:AN3. You need to be aware of our three revert rule because it is a "bright line" and there are virtually no exceptions to it, so if you have crossed that line then you will probably find yourself in a spot of bother also. - Sitush ( talk) 12:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sitush, since you blocked us from posting on the Autobiography talk page - I posted a draft on Yworo talk page - [1] I was hoping we could keep everything on one page. ?? Red Rose 13 ( talk) 04:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
If you disagree with me then by all means copy whatever you put on Yworo's page to the article talk page. - Sitush ( talk) 05:11, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Just found this interesting, not asking anything of you since you're more than busy enough with your current tasks.
I've been zipping through WP:AFC using their pretty boss automated tools, and have run across a bunch (easily a score or so) articles on Namibia, all from different editors, and all reasonably Notable topics like Seal hunting in Namibia. Maybe a quarter of them are marginally publishable, and only a quarter a right out unsuitable, so these folks seem reasonably conscientious.
All I can guess is that maybe some prof at the U of Windhoek (or whatever it's called) is assigning this as classwork? I've messaged a few of them trying to find the reason for this influx, and if it is a prof I'll see if we can get an Ambassador to touch base with him just to make sure the students are starting off on the right foot. As much as their articles need work, they're still way better than what we deal with in other areas, so I thought it an interesting indication of a region entering Wiki at a more measured pace and with some promising early efforts. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 15:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
Well, I am not going to comment anymore now as I think I don't know how to. I am confused Ananyaprasad ( talk) 15:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
You are new-ish to Wikipedia and we should help you to settle in etc but that cannot be done at the expense of policies etc. So, if someone points out a problem and provides a link that gives you some more information about it, it probably would be a good idea if you actually read the link provided. The WP:CANVASS one seems pretty clear to me - is there something in it that you still do not understand? - Sitush ( talk) 03:30, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
You are no longer welcome to post on my page. You also clearly have a grudge and your behavior shows that you lack a good deal of sense. I no longer wish to interact with you and would hope you get the clue that your recent behavior is beginning to become disruptive.-- Amadscientist ( talk) 03:08, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Sitush, The Kaul article draft in my sandbox is much overdue. You said you would be able to check it sometime last month (or the month before). Kindly take the time and have a look. I have alrady left replies to your queries. - Ambar ( talk) 08:46, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi, saw the following comments on a revert on my edit "(Reverted to revision 511251488 by 117.204.48.146: you cannot use a Pandit for this pov. ". Could you explain the pov concern. Is not very clear to me. - Ambar ( talk) 08:53, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Did you mean to revert me here? I'd reverted a new addition that cited a Wikipedia page as the source (and that page is itself unsourced). -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 05:40, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sitush, sorry for not getting back to you before, but I have already wasted months without much progess trying to make the Autobiography of a Yogi´s article neutral. Your are aware how Red Rose 13 manipulates good faith editors in order to attain SRF´s ends. So I started contributing in other book articles. I only write about what I know and I never made a false statement. Credibility is like honour. This is a copy of what I just posted at yet another disruption made by Red Rose 13 false allegations. In 2009 there was another false claim, made by another SRF´s undisclosed member. Please read my post. I am very interested in your feed back. This is an inter-wiki case of spam and sectarist - together with vandalism.
You both need to stick to what is verifiable and stop indulging in original research and synthesis: you both seem frequently to draw conclusions by mixing your personal knowledge with a hotch-potch of selectively chosen analyses etc and it really is not how we should be doing things. Try to de-personalise things, although I know that this is easier said than done! - Sitush ( talk) 10:20, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I had the references from Google Books and some other sources to the Minhas article but it was deleted again by someone. Now what is the reason for deletion of this article. Minhas 12:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Glad you are back after so many days! Large number of hits to one of the articles created by me made me to rethink whether I am on right track or not. Zakir Hussain Memorial Trust - a controversial subject right now needs guidance/copy editing urgently, in view of high hits. Can you have a glance and suggest something? Thank you for all the support.- Rayabhari ( talk) 09:39, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I can see this becoming yet another Indian corruption rolling news article and, frankly, we need less of those, not more. - Sitush ( talk) 10:07, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Respected Sir, Since after 31.03.2007 no body in the whole word took initiative to update the the page indian postal services, I took up the task on 08.05.2012 & spent daily 4-5 hrs in updating the the page; when going to the final touch, you crashed the the whole page,are you want that people of the world may not know about the latest development in india post pre-independence + after independence; if so i may leave updating the page, why to waste my time in updating wikkipedia encyclopedia. People expert like you will do better having thorough knwolege of the subject but remained silent years together since 31.03.2007 - Postmasterjalandhar ( talk) 16:03, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
In the case of this article, there were numerous problems. The most serious of these were copyright violations both of text and images: for legal reasons, these have to be resolved pretty much as soon as they are found. Other content was either poorly sourced or not sourced at all (in some cases, the source did not even support the statements). Aside from general style issues and rather poor English phrasing etc, the other major difficulty was that it was bloated. For example, we do not need a detailed history of Indian stamps in the article about the IPS because (a) the article should focus on the institution and (b) we have another article that can and does contain the detail relating to stamps, and it is linked.
Can the article be improved? Sure, and you are welcome to do so. But you must abide by our policies and guidelines. - Sitush ( talk) 16:37, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Sir, thanks for the guidance & giving knowlede about the rules of editting, I will ensure to abide by our policies and guidelines-- Postmasterjalandhar ( talk) 13:08, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
There is a voting process going on for selection of Images for Economy section of the India article. Voting ends on 15th November 2012. -- Anbu121 ( talk me) 22:19, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Sir, ageed with you start by you, i wanted to give just information upon the page IPS that department of posts India also has Philatelic Museum. Now modified only link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Philatelic_Museum,_New_Delhi mentioned there. Postmasterjalandhar ( talk) 01:16, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
I was about to PROD the article, but found you were trying to clean it up. I don't see a producer of two movies who is involved in a minor "spat" with a singer is notable. I didn't find anything in the way of references not related to the spat. But, I want to hear your opinion first as you have put some research into this. Bgwhite ( talk) 07:05, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Shrike ( talk)/ WP:RX 09:57, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Revision as of 15:24, 18 October 2012 edit IPS by is agreed to-- Postmasterjalandhar ( talk) 13:20, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
-- Anbu121 ( talk me) 19:03, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Appreciate you clarifying this with me. BUT, I noticed then that the Kashmiri surnames section does NOT have a proper citation either(neither do MANY of the things written on topics concerning the Kashmir/Kashmiri people). I am not sure then as to why they are not being removed as well!!!! I will try my best to find proper sources on Kashmiri surnames, but as you can imagine, that might be tough as not much has been written on us, atleast not accurately! Surnames like Talib, Bamzai, Budshah and Sultan are Kashmiri(Pandit) surnames...How exactly is that inaccurate? I do appreciate the fact that verifiable sources are encouraged, but given that we are a small community, that might be just like finding a needle in a haystack! It will be almost impossible for me to find proper sources on this! If you want a comprehensive writeup on Kashmiris then these are important facts that are missing from these articles. Of course, that being said, I will most definitely find some proper sources to support the facts on Kashmir. Kindly ALSO let me know if I am posting this message in the proper space in your page! I do NOT know how to send messages on wikipedia and I do not want to post the messages in the wrong place. In fact, you will actually be helping me out! Thanks! Respectfully, Kashmirian123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kashmirian123 ( talk • contribs) 17:11, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
I work a lot in the area of articles relating to Indic communities and I know that it can often be difficult to find sources for what appear (to those in the know) to be statements that are as obvious as the sun rising in the east. Alas, they are only obvious to those who are in the know and not to the vastly greater number of people who are not members of this or that community etc - hence, they require the support of reliable sources. Fundamentally, no source = no statement.
With specific regard to list relating to caste, ethnicity and the like, you may benefit from reading User:Sitush/Common#Castelists and WP:NLIST, as well as WP:BLP and its little brother, WP:BLPCAT.. - Sitush ( talk) 11:40, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. Erm. I don't grok how anything going on here is in any way related to me. Or to you, for that matter. As Marvin Gaye said, What's Going On (song)? -- Shirt58 ( talk) 13:19, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Can the article be improved? Sure, and you are welcome to do so. But you must abide by our policies and guidelines. - Sitush (talk) 16:37, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Please guide how i can use link of news regarding 'first bara dakghar'along with snap of first gpo opened in kolkutta on 01.04.1774 published in e paper punjab kesari/bal kesari dated 30.07.2011,when link to the e paper is not being opened but i am having a copy of that issue Bal Kesari of punjab kesari jalandhar dated 30.07.2011. I could have attatched the file but there in provision upon talk page to attatch file G C GOYAL SENIOR POSTMASTER (GAZETTED) JALANDHAR CITY PINJAB INDIA Postmasterjalandhar ( talk) 02:05, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
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Mr sitush i think you are a very senior editor on wikipedia. Here 'senior' doesn't denote your age but your work on wikipedia. But I have a doubt whether you truly know whether the information you edit on wikipedia is really genuine or not. All the references which you consider as reliable are outdated. You consider the references of 1980's of the article Tyagi to be reliable but it's 2012 now and 32 years is a big period if you consider the speed at which the world is changing. I have a request to you just come out of these books see what's happening in reality. Just try to know what state of mind are people in today. You are providing the outdated and obsolete information by including these references.According to me it's better to provide exact and precise information rather than the one dwindling in its existence and i expect same from you.
For your better knowledge i would like to tell you that every change is cyclic in nature. The time period of this could vary but you can't prevent it from happening. So the best thing is to accept the reality by accepting the change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.202.187.232 ( talk) 08:29, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Yes, that was in my watchlist. The citation error problem was mentioned in last part of Talk:Rameswaram#Section_01! -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 05:03, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
I was unfamiliar with the slang "bollocks" that you used. [6]
I tried to look it up, my browser gave me the following warning, "WEBIMAGESVIDEOSMORE Your country or region requires a strict Bing SafeSearch setting, which filters out results that might return adult content. To learn more about SafeSearch requirements in your country or region, see How Bing delivers search results." (Browser: Safari, device IPad). I will provide a screen shot on demand.
You have indulged in profanity in the recent past when communicating with me. [7]
Please understand the international nature of the project and that civility is one of its pillars. You are requested to refrain from using slang/profanity. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:33, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:55, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Hey, I'd like to ask the exact reason the user User:Arctan371 is being punished for? He recently left his concerns on the Feedback dashboard ( /info/en/?search=Special:FeedbackDashboard/58083 ), and I feel a tendency to defend his cause, since I went through the same thing in the past, and my ethnic group is going through a slower version of the same thing. Depending on what the reason was for his punishment shall I defend him, of course. It seemed, at first glance, that his edits were constructive, with some of them having a source, though with some grammatical errors that could very easily be fixed. Why were these contributions not accepted and fixed? Why were they blocked, including the part with a citation? I'm curious, and slightly afraid that this dispute is involving vengeful tactics, instead of fair, balanced, and calm resolution from both sides equally. -- BurritoBazooka ( talk) 05:07, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Obviously, if you can get this message across and if you want to assist in finding decent sources etc (after reviewing the article talk threads) then that would be great. You need perhaps to be aware that they are also at present the subject of a report at WP:SPI - here - which was filed by someone other than me. This is not about the rights and wrongs of the persecution of people in Quetta but rather one of how we do things on Wikipedia. - Sitush ( talk) 05:18, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sitush and friends/enemies!
I was unaware of your expertise on India.
Ben Affleck's 2012 film Argo tells the story of the CIA's attempt to rescue hostages from Iran (after the 1979 Revolution) using a cover story of filming a science-fiction movie.
The movie was to have been based on the Hugo-award and Nebula-award winning 1967 novel Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny. ( Jack Kirby drew some story boards.)
Lord of Light uses Hinduism the way his This Immortal used Greek pantheism. The WP article on Lord of Light has no discussion of from Indian or Hindu writers, as far as I know. I would be interested in learning about such responses.
Sincerely, Kiefer .Wolfowitz 19:37, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Dear Sitush
There are many other articles like 2011 Mastung bus shooting, 2011 Hazara Town shooting and so on which are mentioned in the main article Persecution of Hazara people in Quetta. Do you believe that those articles should be nominated as well for deletion?
As far as this article is concerned, I will add the details of the incident like I have done in other articles (mentioned above). Now, nominating the article for deletion is a bit unfair, I just started it. Let it be completed then review it if it is copied or mentioned (in detail) in any other article then of course this should be nominated for deletion. Hazara Birar (Talk) 10:23, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
For a Hindu, Caste is very important. I don't know Sitush to which caste you belong and to which part of the India. Atleast I can find out that you don't belong to Andhra, and you are not Telugu. Without any knowledge of feelings of Telugu people and the Telugu castes don't write, edit, re edit the Wikipedia articles on major Telugu Castes. Only a Reddy would know about their caste, only a Balija Naidu would know about their caste, only a Kamma Naidu would know about their caste. Please don't edit articles on these major Telugu castes without much knowledge and insult us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.178.250.17 ( talk • contribs) 06:09, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Update: Sitush, My apologies for being harsh during my previous post in your talk page. I am not deleting that post (but you are free to do it) from your talk page. Please continue to manage the pages on Hindu Telugu castes, we appreciate your time and good work. I have read through Wikipedia's Five Pillars and will let you know of any new information which can be added to the Balija page.
It seems a pity to remove so much historical information.... granted it was unsourced but was it untrue??? and is there no source available? Regards, Ariconte ( talk) 05:01, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello Dost, i am glad you visited article Durga Bhabhi and edited it by removing a few images that i had uploaded. Since i am a new wikipedian and have little knowldege about image copyrights and wikipedia's policies for image uploads. The images that i had uploaded to wikimedia commons are rare images that are important for the article above mentioned , and would be a great help to visiter who is intrested in the article.i had found those images on internet ,and sources are mentioned with the respective images on wikimedia website.I guess you are a senior editor ,so it would be a great help if you could improve the required information for the images or you yo just could just suggest me ,what steps should i follow. i have already gone through the wikipedia policis but couldnt make much out of it.Articles are related to indian historical personalities(freedom fighters). Lets provide space on wikipedia to those who deserve the most.
TheBharatam 05:55, 16 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebharatam ( talk • contribs)
Hi Sitush! I've got the wanted pages of Stell's Nonconformist chapels and meeting-houses. Where I have to send it to? Greetings, -- Doc Taxon ( talk) 19:41, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
I have discussed a lot with you regarding inclusion of Gurjar as claimed members in Kshatriya page. Our discussions didn't get anywhere because I think you assume ownership of that very page or you are being very rigid about your thoughts. If you are failing to get to some conclusive discussion because you lack any solid point to revert my edits, why are you doing it. In addition to it, I've already said that I am open to talk on the "TALK" page of the "article" so STOP FLOODING MY TALK PAGE WITH NOTICES. I am again requesting you to go through the last content I added. It is completely valid and referenced. Still if you think it was not right, you should stop reverting my edits and accept that you need to study history deeper. Thank you. - Author 91 ( talk) 09:20, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
You seem to think that Gurjars are called that because of region. You seriously need to study history, specially INDIAN HISTORY to know that Gurjar is caste. You must be very knowledgeable about FEW things but don't act as if you're master of all. Because you know NOTHING of CASTE SYSTEM IN INDIA. I'd suggest, LEAVE EDITING ARTICLES ABOUT CASTES before you end up destroying complete Indian history.
I really do think that the easy solution here is to bin the list of claims, as I explained at Talk:Kshatriya#Claims_versus_reality. Sometimes we just have to accept that this place is incapable of depicting certain situations in a manner that does them justice and it is better to adopt a broad-brush approach to them rather than get entrenched in continual warfare over minutiae that satisifies no-one. Definitive lists are not the be-all and end-all of this project and, frankly, it is my opinion that we have far too many, far too poor quality lists. - Sitush ( talk) 11:19, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Learn to respect other peoples contributions and their hard work. Stop bullying new users. I've been noticing you're work as well, half of the time you're removing articles without references instead of helping cite references, and your'e reverting other peoples work recklessly, without a thought. If you're a senior here, act like one. we all care and work for Wikipedia. please dont ruin its sole purpose. give it a thought. Bhonsale ( talk) 19:34, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
I wouldn't read to much into description of "senior editor" etc here. I've been around a bit and, yes, there are the userboxes etc, but neither number of edits nor longevity are any guarantee of, well, anything much at all except (hopefully) experience in the application of policies. And it is policies that matter: we cannot continually ignore them just so that some random Joe can say what they believe to be correct when that is not obviously verifiable. For what it is worth, some time ago I was among a loose group of people who made substantial efforts to improve some high-profile articles concerning communities where editors were claiming kshatriya status in circumstances that were, at best, not presenting the full picture. Not all of those have been covered but I and others still spend a lot of time keeping them in order and I am still trying to develop some. We do what we can, where we can, when we can. Much of your own work seems to consist of copy/pasting a standard set of "See also" links. While useful if reasonably applied, if your concern is that I am cutting back in a manner that is untoward then one obvious thing that you could do is actually fulfil some of the citation requests etc. In the scale of things, See Also links are useful but citations are far more significant.
An advance warning: I am likely to be taking an in-depth look at Brahmin articles next year. They, too, seem to have escaped the policy net in many ways and it is not just myself who feels that some order needs to be introduced. For example, Fowler&fowler has been making noises for some time now. So, please do not get the impression that what I do is some sort of campaign aimed solely at a single community. - Sitush ( talk) 00:27, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
The announcement that Jclemens is standing for re-election to ArbCom - see here - is not good news to me. You'd think they had realised the problems and the divisiveness after the recent spat that saw many of their fellow-ArbCom members dissociate themselves from certain remarks etc. - Sitush ( talk) 09:41, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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Someone pretty much messed up the whole page and changed the title to "Gujar" from Gujjar and removed side tamplet showing images of gujjar people, religion and population. Please fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.212.72 ( talk) 15:06, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
As far as the infobox images of people are concerned, well, you'll be able to see who did it by trawling through edit history. It may well have been me: there was a discussion about showing such images in Indian caste/community articles not too long ago. That discussion took place on the India Project talk page, where many people with an interest in Wikipedia's India-related articles discuss issues relating to those articles. There was a consensus that the images tended to cause more problems than they were worth. In particular, there are issues relating to our policy concerning biographies of living people, as well as matters relating to due weight and edit warring. Even if I was not the one that removed them, I do support the principle and that support is based on a fairly significant amount of time dealing with such articles. You could always propose that the images be reinstated but I suspect that you would not gain consensus for it, sorry. - Sitush ( talk) 16:57, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
You have removed many things in the vellalar page because of lack of refs. I have many refs to add, just don't have time. Just give me some time (end of this year) and I will add them. Then you can check & act (after discussion). Time is again the reason why I did not join the discussion between you & author91 on Kshatriya page. I will also work on this page soon. Rajkris ( talk) 22:45, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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Reverting my edi to Maithil brahmin was not proper for a community of some 5 million if one can write onlt a few names in notable and that too wrong depends on wikepedia to celebrate- Now there are pnly thiese anmes
Udit Narayan Jha- playback singer in Indian cinema (agreed_ Piyush Jha- Indian director and screenwriter ( We have not listned about this man, maybe but there are many more like him and the additions I had made allwere more widely known htan this name) Ganganath Jha- Indian philosopher (agreed but he was only a new name in the list of hundreds) Vidyapati- Hindi poet( wrong- h ewas a Maithili poer though Hindi too keeps him and for that matter banglaa too just to show their date some hundered years before thieir origin). Dr. Dhanakar Thakur ( talk) 05:21, 22 November 2012 (UTC) |
dear sir you deleted the information put under the Rajwada in Indore on the 19th of November , i am the Co-Convener of INTACH Indore Chapter a semi government organisation , the information you deleted is verified historic data and our organisation is the spearheading agency to document and upkeep the history of Indore , kindly refrain from deleting any content which you are unaware of in case you have a problem for verification of the history of Indore kindly contact intachindore@gmail.com. Co-Convener INTACH Indore Chapter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intachindorechapter ( talk • contribs) 13:25, 22 November 2012
Please also note that your username is contrary to our policy because it implies that you are contributing as part of a group. You'll need to abandon that account and set up another that reflects you as an individual, sorry. - Sitush ( talk) 19:47, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello Sitush, I see that here are certain additions that have been made to a page I have contributed to Jadeja. I cannot logically understand how someone's view on how the word Jadeja was formed is left untouched, yet an enriching addition to the article- a list of notable Jadejas is deleted? You cannot deny the existence of these mentioned individuals who have their own wiki pages. Please advise. Thank you. Tamasic 19:17, 22 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamasic ( talk • contribs)
Hello, thank you for the useful link Sitush. There is no denying that the individuals that have been mentioned as notable Jadeja are Jadeja by name and caste. Numerous books state that K.S. Ranjitsinhji Jadeja was born into a Rajput or Kshatriya family; and that he went on to rule the princely state of Nawanagar, now called Jamnagar. The suffix of his name 'sinhji' is a Rajput suffix. Hence I cannot understand why additions of notable Jadejas are deleted when clearly there is no denying that those mentioned are a) Jadeja b)Rajput by caste. I am further more confused that an inaccurate piece of information suggesting that the word Jadeja is derived from a Gujarati word is permitted. The word Jadeja existed before the community resided in present day Gujarat. It is more likely that the name is derived from Jam Jada with Jadeja meaning 'son of' in Sindhi as the community were based in Thatta, Sindh where Gujarati would not of been spoken. I look forward to your feedback. Tamasic 20:22, 22 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamasic ( talk • contribs)
As far as the etymological thing is concerned, if you doubt that the source is reliable then you'll need to explain why it is unreliable (this might include it being a fringe theory). Otherwise, the quotation seems to be valid and can remain in the article - it is a single sentence and so hardly undue weight. Your speculation about an alternate etymology, which you think is more likely, is just that: speculation. We cannot engage in original research here and so you'll need sources to support it.
Wikipedia is not a perfect environment for conveying information. This does mean that from time to time things will appear that local knowledge etc suggests is incorrect. But we have to have some sort of system otherwise it will be anarchy, with everyone saying whatever the heck they like. Hopefully, the number of instances when local knowledge and reliable sources diverge will be very few. - Sitush ( talk) 20:32, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello again. I have stated that 'sinhji' is a Rajput suffix. I have not used the word 'uniquely'. I agree with you, being a Rajput does not make you and Jadeja. Jadejas are a community belonging to the Rajput caste. With reference to K.S. Ranjitsinhji, he was born into a Jadeja family and I am sure that sources citing this information exist, it is how I myself am aware of this fact. To the inaccuracy issue of McLeod's small statement, it may be a single sentence but it is offensive as it is clearly inaccurate as I have stated in my earlier post. I am aware that Wikipedia is not perfect for conveying accurate information, this conversation stems from a case in point; yet with the tools and systems available the quality of articles can be maintained, improved. It is up to individuals like you and myself to aid this. I thank you for your kind time and when I have more time on my hands, shall improve the quality of the article in concern with references from reliable sources whose information is culturally and historically accurate- as the latter is imperative. Tamasic 20:57, 22 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamasic ( talk • contribs)
I undid the deprodding as you convinced me about the probable unrealiability of the sources and the non-proofed existence of this clan. Regards, Cavarrone ( talk) 13:09, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Or we may not. I have no interest in the topic of Jats, clans, caste or other matters, nor any expertise in those and similar areas. My thinking is solely that the articles in this topic area are in great need of substantial improvement. To me that improvement is best made by "Cite it or it goes" as a philosophy with all articles. Indeed that is a philosophy I stand by in all areas of Wikipedia, not just this one. I am singling this one out for special attention because it is a set of many highly similar articles, all purporting to be on the same topic, and each overlapping greatly with its neighbour article. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 19:13, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Long time no see. How are you? I heard you had some health issues recently. Hope you are feeling better now. I don't understand why you lifted some notable names from the List of Nadars article(some had refs like mla k.pandiarajan) and left some names to remain on the page. Could you please explain? Mayan302 ( talk) 15:59, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
I won't be leaving it alone for long because they are breaches of WP:BLP, but I'll give it a few days before returning. - Sitush ( talk) 16:04, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Hmm. Ok. It's pretty hard to get people talk about their caste in a state like Tamil nadu where people dont speak about a person's caste in public. It's more like using bad words(even though casteism still exists). Perhaps you should just have to remove the names or just delete the article. I ll see what I can do. But I am quite sure that there are not many refs which could satisfy this criteria. Glad to know you are getting better.TC. Mayan302 ( talk) 16:24, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
I placed the edit points in capital letters because the original merger discussion was removed without proper discussion, so I wanted to make sure it was seen this time. In my actual talk page discussion I had to be brisk to make sure there were no communication barriers, as some of the editors did not appear to be fluent in English.
It is important to adhere to the message of the website and maintain objectivity. Merger discussions cannot be removed without proper discussion. The discussion under the main Tyagi page was regarding merger with a different article -- Bhumihaar -- which apparently no longer exists. The discussion on the Tyagi (Muslim) page did not address the issue. As such, I reinstated it.
Again, I really have to emphasize the importance of religious neutrality on this website. Thank you for helping the discussion along. Parsh ( talk) 10:27, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Also, I apologize if I gave you the impression of shouting. That certainly was not my intention. Parsh ( talk) 10:30, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Hello Sitush,
We have not met before, but I am very impressed by your dedication to the site. In regards to your point, I am certain I started the discussion 2-3 years ago, but somebody deleted it. I am trying to make sense of the extensive deletions and rewrites of the main article, but I am certain it is was deleted. I believe my discussion is still present on Tyagi (Muslim).
If I am mistaken in my old age, and cannot find it, I will change the date to November 2012 and treat it as a new discussion -- you are of course correct, the discussion needs ti be on the talk page. Please let me know if there is anything else I could do to make sure this discussion proceeds in a calm and reasonable fashion. Parsh ( talk) 10:50, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Sitush,
Sure, that's completely reasonable, I'll do it.
I'm looking through the edits, and it is pretty overwhelming. I think it may either the version I had written in 2007 or then one from 2010 (you can see my name on the edit history), but there has been a lot of nonsense that has flooded the page and I will likely have to start something new with more accessible references.
Looking back, to when I first rewrote the article 6 years ago, I have to admit there were some District Gazeteer claims that I simply reentered without verifying myself, even back then. I have hopefully learned a trick or two since then. Either way, I will restart the discussion as you suggested shortly. I am first trying to make sense of when the division between Muslims and Hindus occurred (the last name is Sanskrit and dates back to BC, several millenia before Islam existed). That seems to be where everything started. I am going to have to retrograde to the Tyagi (Muslim) article first, to see what they've been writing about.
Man, I feel like quitting before starting. Well someone has to do it. Thanks for pointing out that I hadn't actually started a discussion, apologies again if I came across as being short with you. Parsh ( talk)
Sitush, I have started a new discussion as you suggested with some basic references. I am going to purchase a copy of the 1990 District Gazetteer, as I cannot find it online and it appears a large portion of claims relate to this text. My suspicion is the text does not contain any of the information asserted. If you have a copy, or can verify it somehow that would be helpful. Otherwise, I will update as my research proceeds. Thanks again for keeping an eye on the page.
By the way, as you noted earlier, the merger discussion will likely end up just being the two of us. If that is the case, how long do you suggest I wait before merging the articles? Parsh ( talk) 12:48, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
To be honest, I don't usually like editing articles about religious conflict because it's such a pain with so many covert agendas. I think I will have to read the original texts because I don't trust most of whats been written with the religious aspects. It's okay, although I'm not of a specific religion it's good to learn about my heritage. You must really love editing to put up with this stuff all day, or you're a glutton for punishment. Either way, thank you for your editing pen. Looking at the history of the article, I can't believe how patient you've been. Parsh ( talk) 13:43, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
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Whether now or any time in the foreseeable future, any RfA by me is likely to be pretty controversial. I mean, the entire process seems to me to be increasingly heated anyway but with my background on the caste articles etc I have built up a sizeable number of "default opposers". By that I mean people who will oppose simply because it is my sig on the end of a message, at the top of a proposition or in an edit summary. There has been evidence in the past that at least some of these people organised support for their position off-wiki via Orkut etc & I would expect them to come out in force for a RfA.
There is also another issue: although I think that generally I do take the frequent abuse and intransigence at disputes fairly well, I blip from time to time and one of those blips is very recent. Sure, my rather frequent summons to WP:ANI and similar seem always to end up in my favour but being a semi-permanent fixture there might will be seen as a problem for any prospective admin. Short of swapping caste articles for, say, the history of defunct Mancunian engineering companies, amateur botanists of the 19th C or British bareknuckle boxers of the 18th C (all of which I've meddled in), I don't see my ANI visits deteriorating any time soon.
Finally, there is a personal issue: I remain somewhat unhappy with goings-on in a recent ArbCom case and while I've reconciled myself to the situation generally, I think that I need a bit of time to be sure. That might take a few months or, depending on who is elected to ArbCom in the next few days, it might be quicker. This is a very specific issue and I will settle down but it is quite odd that I've become more concerned about a procedural matter (and what I consider to be a gross insult by somone who should have known better) than all of the stuff that is usually thrown at me. - Sitush ( talk) 22:16, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Very rarely do I see a list that I recommend to be changed to a category. INdeed the more I consider this one the more I see that a category is important and the list must go. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 08:18, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
There is nothing wrong with having both a list and a category and indeed when someone proposes an either/or at AfD or CfD it is my experience that the proposal almost always fails. However, I've set out my logic at Talk:List of Indian castes and I think that there are two possible outcomes: the first is a massive clean up of the list that at least makes it more manageable (although it will never be possible to resolve all of the issues I raise), and the second is indeed deletion. I was hoping that some sort of meaningful discussion could be had in that thread prior to any AfD - mainly, in case I am missing some crucial point - but I must admit to not being optimistic that it will happen. If you want to take it to AfD then feel free, but I've committed myself to allowing some time for people to come up with suggestions and I'll stick with that for a week or so. - Sitush ( talk) 08:35, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks again. Parsh ( talk) 13:48, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Well, the more I look, the more I'm noticing your name everywhere. And someone always seems to be mad about something you removed! :) But always a cool head that I've seen. 78,000 edits is a hell of a lot of patience. Thanks. Parsh ( talk) 14:13, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Cypher.Oracle ( talk) 02:21, 25 November 2012 (UTC) Satti. Hi, I just saw your amendments. What reasons, you removed the facts?
hello and thanks for your edits in Buttar. You removed much, specially the list of villages, many of them has own articles and were sourced; why you removed them? And you removed a reference to Internet Archive saying not reliable, I couldn't understand why it's unreliable or the census? I think it's good! -- itar buttar [talk] 14:35, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for the support. Can you please have a glance at Kalanos? Is the article cluttered with citations? Rayabhari ( talk) 15:47, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
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I moved the dab to a more appropriate place and moved Bhil Vasava to Vasava with a hatnote. — Xezbeth ( talk) 14:16, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
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Hello this is Whitetararaj, you have made a mistake. I am living in Jubail. Please, you should let me to write the tourism of Jubail. —Preceding undated comment added 10:11, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi sitush,how r u, actualy I have writen so much about the Gheba Tribe but Unfortunately it was deleted again again.Why is it so. If Ghebas Returned themselves as Mughals ,than there should be no Problem for you or any other to Called them as Rajputs. Now the Ghebas are Identifies himselfs as Mughals and In write As Mughal Gheba. If some one has any dout,he can chek out ,and come to Gheba villages in Fateh jang. Now Uses the Title of Sardar .And one thing more the British writers writes about only the bioghrafies and Progeniter of One or two villages ,but here Ghebas Having 30 to 35 villages in which they are living and More than 20 villages where the landlord Are Gheba sardars but the Cultivator are Malyaar Awan .So kindly i have a request to you that consider my Writing about Ghebas and please dont delete my words in Article Gheba.Thanks hoping for a Favorable reply.Raimughal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raimughal ( talk • contribs) 10:22, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Sitush, I had a small request, if you look at articles that are not history but mythology based as well. I am working on an article Parashurama for good article submission, and I was hoping for an outside eye to look at the article quickly and point out things that I was missing. If that is not your forte, it is no problem. Thanks, Parsh ( talk) 06:19, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Does no votes on an AfD mean the same thing as a no consensus? Obviously there is atleast 1 vote for delete; and a no consensus cannot be establishedf as there are no votes against. The policy says nothing that the AfD must be closed as no consensus. The article in concern is this TheOriginalSoni ( talk) 14:53, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I am really glad that you are back. I have created Sher Ali Afridi and can you kindly glance at it and tell me whether the subject is notable? Thank you. Rayabhari ( talk) 17:32, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Can you kindly suggest me whether Kalanos, biography of a historic person, meets notability requirements? Thank you. Rayabhari ( talk) 15:37, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Kindly advise me, whether this is a reliable source [8] Thank you. Rayabhari ( talk) 15:36, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
Please make the correction. You claimed to rely on the NCBC lists. Despite having proved their FC status, you still have not updated it. Akashasr ( talk) 02:24, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sitush, Your advice is noted. However my main concern leading to said changes are base on the point you stated that the term "Colombo Royalist" is a journalistic device and not a generally recognised alternate name. I have mentioned so in the talk page and would like your input on it. Thanks. Cossde ( talk) 04:33, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
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Please take a moment to review the simple guide and join the discussion. Thank you! EarwigBot operator / talk 17:03, 2 December 2012 (UTC) Why has been a single author quoted 4 diff times? 1st source is Brittanica which is not acceptable. What about BALANCE? The whole article is filled with Bayly. Other authors have been ignored. AND YET YOU CHOSE TO KEEP IT. I posted several links where Jats were described as "elite cultivating caste" , "high caste zamindars" and since they don't fulfil your agenda, you have chosen to stick to the SINGLE BAYLY SOURCE WHICH HAS BEEN QUOTED MULTIPLE TIMES.
Akashasr ( talk) 17:06, 2 December 2012 (UTC) Thank you for your constructive comments on your message to me. I am a very naive contributor to Wikipedia but certainly do not have a conflict of interest, having never attended the school which is now defunct anyway. I was, however, for many years a resident of Stubbington and wrote articles around twenty year's ago. The Alumni for the school are taken from primary documents, school lists and, in particular, a 44 page document detailing those pupils who were known by the First World War, and a smaller document detailing the same for the Second World War. Most, if not all those ex-pupils cited can be corroborated by their entries in Who's Who and Kelly's Directories. I am sorry if you have been offended by my entries and felt, presumably as an invigilator for Wikipedia, the need to remove them. Perhaps you would like to reinstate them and I will e-mail you details of corroborating documents. Kind regards Gavelman ( talk) 10:36, 3 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gavelman ( talk • contribs) 09:57, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Just prior to your edits on Reddy, Edunt made [en.wikipedia.org/?title=Reddy&diff=526199971&oldid=526197595 this edit], which seems dubious to me. But I figured that you had seen it given you edited afterward...were those edits okay? Qwyrxian ( talk) 00:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
During the "Death of Bal Thackeray" deletion discussion you write "Btw, a redirect would be the quick solution, I guess. That probably could have been boldly done but given the controversial nature of Thackeray and also the identity of one of the main contributors, you've done the right thing in being circumspect." Would you clarify whom you allude to? Just curious. Don't answer if you wouldn't like to. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 08:17, 4 December 2012 (UTC) Please tell me what can I do sir?-- Piggy58 ( talk) 14:12, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
Sir it is not copyright material. I take this matter from old book published in 1903 The army of the Indian Moghuls: its organization and administration — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piggy58 ( talk • contribs) 14:24, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
ok. Thanks-- Piggy58 ( talk) 14:44, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
ok. Thanks.You are a good reviewer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piggy58 ( talk • contribs) 13:46, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
at that and just drop me a note on this talk page if you have any queries or get a bit stuck. - Sitush ( talk) 13:59, 4 December 2012 (UTC) Sir. Removal of matter under ahsam head is also better to improve the article. Because a article under this head also present. Ahsham (Mughal Infantry)-- Piggy58 ( talk) 07:06, 7 December 2012 (UTC) Dear Sitush. I noticed you reverted my edit. If you actually look at the edit that was made you will note that no unsourced information was added, and no sourced information removed. The edit merely concised the information in a more presentable manner and removed unnecessary detail that can be found be clicking on the link. In future you should be careful to check other people's edits before you undo them unnecessarily.
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Have a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chili burger and the state the article was in when I suggested deletion and the allegedly better state it is in today. I find inclusionists as hard to fathom as deletionists. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 17:40, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
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No big deal; I wasn't really sure, but it just seemed kind of odd. I don't feel passionately about it, so I'm fine just letting it go. Go Phightins ! 22:07, 9 December 2012 (UTC) Hi. Can you kindly have a look at Koraga people and my edits there. Thank you. Rayabhari ( talk) 17:05, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, My request for adding modern name for Jai Chand you asked for an authentic ref. Quote : "In Northern part of India, the Rathore (or Rathor or Rathur or Rathod or Rathour) is a Suryavanshi Indian clan." From Google books"Gorkhas: The Warrior Race By Bandana Rai" http://books.google.com.pk/books?id=keEl6QKnuoYC&pg=PA147&dq=rathore+%26+Rathod&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XcjFUOmKEMuk4ATQ04DgDw&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=rathore%20%26%20Rathod&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baitaal ( talk • contribs) 11:51, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
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You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Considering the AN/I in progress, I am not sure how this would be taken, however thanking anyone never should hurt. Thanks for removing vandalism from my user page. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 16:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
I thought that I had got everyone, but there were around 20 or so pages. Sorry that I missed your's, it certainly wasn't deliberate. ˜ danjel [ talk | contribs ] 15:33, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
Plz note I am new to this wiki editing. Unable to respond to ur changes on talk page, hence writing here. First thank you for adding - Goyal further said "Shiv Sena ...". Without the text Goyal further said " it was not conveying the meaning that it was said by Goyal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhD09 ( talk • contribs) 14:31, 14 December 2012 (UTC) Pardon my intransigence at your edits on the Samra page. But I find it a bullying act, removing painstakingly researched and collected material posted by me over a period of two years. You have whimsically removed well cited sources like James Todd, whose book Annals and Antiquities of Rajasthan' is considered a masterpiece in Rajasthan history, and whom you say is an unreliable source. So, Magasthanes is an unreliable source as well! I have read his Indica well enough before posting it here. No wonder you are the most reliable source here! First prove that they are unreliable sources, and I will concede. I have personally verified sources before posting them. Secondly, you have removed the name of the Villages where Samra gotra people live, which you have no reason to discard. I have lived in one of them, and in this case Wikipedia is acting as a source of information to and not just as a compiler of published information. I would have appreciated if you had really tried to remove the uncited Prominent Personalities, which I have regularly filtered, if you check my history. You removed winners of Mahavir Chakra, MLAs etc. If this is not vandalism, what is? I know you would love nothing more than bombarding me with some Wiki mumbo jumbo and warnings. Still I would request you to understand that knowledge is not a one-way street, open your mind to the world. Just by editing more pages, you dont become an authority on all subjects. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kulveer ( talk • contribs) 08:34, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to thank you for reverting some edits of me. This page is being hammered and an year of research was initially removed by you, and then some other guys removed sections on Prominent Personalities, even though i had painstakingly given links....hope u can review and revive some of them, I seek your help in reviewing them When I tried to delete this as you requested, the system replied that the page had more than 5,000 revisions so would have to be deleted by a steward. (I knew the history of the Jats was complicated, but I didn't know it was that complicated!) However, while I was composing a message for you, the delete seems to have gone through. Maybe I have super-powers I didn't know about. Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 19:44, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Kindly review my edits in Koraga people. Thanks for all the support. Rayabhari ( talk) 16:48, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Mkdw ( talk) has asked me to undelete this and userfy to him. I am reluctant to go against the delete verdict of the AfD: please comment at User talk:JohnCD#Reconsider deletion of Userfy. I have also asked Spinningspark's view as closing admin. Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 22:15, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
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Elites in India Was so glad to see your magnum opus hit the front page! I'm sure it will ruffle a few feathers in quarters-of-supporters, but hopefully the diligence you've applied in sourcing will give folks some new perspective. Nicely done, and maybe someday I'll get far enough along on Shivaji to make a move for GA/FA. MatthewVanitas ( talk) 19:39, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I have reported the Ali Ahmed Kurd article issue at BLP Noticeboard. OrangesRyellow ( talk) 09:03, 24 December 2012 (UTC) See WP:AN#request admin help to close improper AFD. -- Orlady ( talk) 02:45, 25 December 2012 (UTC) But there's no need to look if you are indisposed. It's not about you. -- Orlady ( talk) 02:47, 25 December 2012 (UTC) I mentioned your name at wp:AN#request admin help to close improper AFD. Your commenting there and/or at the new AFD opened by Orlady about the List of Scheduled Castes would be appreciated. I personally would appreciate your truthful view about the validity of the topic for Wikipedia. Thanks, -- do ncr am 02:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Seasons greetings to you and yours Dougweller ( talk) 13:48, 25 December 2012 (UTC) Drmies suggested not overwhelming your "little smartphone" with comments here, but... the heck with Drmies. Best wishes for a short and successful stay in the hospital, and a speedy return. -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:19, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
We have been engaged in a discussion at various pages, I am taking a break from Wikipedia, not that I won't edit at all, but I may not be able to be prompt in replies, so please consider that I have temporarily disengaged myself from our discussions, I have written my final replies to various threads, and that is all for the moment. Thanks. Yogesh Khandke ( talk) 04:52, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi, please see the talk section. I have replied to your query there. Thanks. Sreejiraj ( talk) 19:40, 27 December 2012 (UTC) thanks for input.. just checked, you removed it altogether.. that I think is better.. anyway, could you provide me with any documented reasons on why 'to impose modern mores on historical statements' is not good? It would be nice to have a perspective on editing. (I am not very clear of talk page editing, so you may get double notification of edits on my page and here!) Mittgaurav ( talk) 21:01, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Question. I've just found Vaniya Chettiar, and stubbed it. I found what appears to be a reliable source stating that they are an "Other Backwards Caste" in Kerala. Is that the same thing as an "Other Backwards Class"? I seem to recall you saying it's not. The ref is linked in the article; feel free to rephrase as necessary. Qwyrxian ( talk) 00:27, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm a little worried: I don't actually know of any requirement in WP:BLP that people self-identify for ethnicity (of which we can assume caste/class is a reasonable analogue). WP:BLPCAT says we have to be especially careful with categories, and says we need self-identification for religion and sexual orientation, but not for ethnicity. BLPCAT is specifically more restrictive than general BLP requirements, is my understanding. Am I missing something? Qwyrxian ( talk) 15:26, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello Mr. Sitush, I would like to inform you, that all changes were reverted by you about Rohtak article. Please let me know, why are you reverting the edits done by users about city. After all the people staying here, would not contribute wrong. Some users have contributed incorrect and sparse information (see the Current Article) and you are letting that all information remain. I am sure the information this article is providing presently is not up to date and even so sparse to get to someone's mind. You can have a look to other articles or other cities of Haryana, so many users are changing the information about their cities, why not have look to them. Why are you only reverting the good edits done by some faithful users, to provide the viewers better information. Is there any personal reason, that you just want to make the City's Reputation to be down, even after there have been so many developments city and about all that, the information was added in article yesterday Dec 28, 2012. But all those changes were brought down, and replaced by your previous article state. I even provided the reference links, where one can verify the information, that I added yesterday, but still the changes (the hard-work) was reverted. This is unacceptable, as Wikipedia is an open source website. The other users have a right to change incorrect information to correct one, and if you are the moderator of India's Wikipedia, then make sure you are performing your job well. I shall be personally complaining to Wikipedia about your Behavior, and all what you are providing to users. Than you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.206.187.152 ( talk) 11:43, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Seeing as you have 81,000 edits, and are autopatrolled and a rollbacker, and you've been editing 2012 Delhi gang rape case, is there any reason you haven't requested reviewer rights? It's probably one of the most-viewed articles under P.C.-protection, so the more reviewers who have it watchlisted, the better. — Francophonie&Androphilie( Je vous invite à me parler) 13:01, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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