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I see little Thetford made FA - very nice.-- SPhilbrick T 14:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
A really big thank you to all those who have helped take Little Thetford from here to here. I have learned a great deal. Since starting this project on 30 May 2010 I have created ten additional articles and contributed to 39 others (see list here)
-- Senra ( talk) 21:40, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
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To Senra, for growing a Little Thetford from an acorn to a tree... Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 00:38, 29 July 2010 (UTC) |
Here you go, you can start decorating your userpage with one of these...sorta like collecting stickers (decals) really...
Casliber (
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I have just been handed the following re-write of the Little Thetford geology section (which I have wikified before placing here). As Little Thetford is now a featured article, is it OK to replace the existing section with this new material?
Geology and topography
The village, which lies at about 16 feet (5 m) sea-level, sits largely on the Kimmeridge Clay, a Jurassic shallow-water shelf-sea deposit, with an overall south-south-east to south-east dip. Underlying the Kimmeridge Clay, are similarly dipping older Jurassic clays, which also contain thin beds of limestone and sandstone. Overlying the Kimmeridge Clay and lying some distance to the east of the village are similarly dipping, younger Cretaceous rocks, comprising the Greensand and Chalk.(BGS (1989) sheet 173)(BGS (1989) sheet 188) At the west of the village, an outlier of Greensand forms the foundation of a hill rising to some 30 feet (9 m) above sea-level. This hill is capped by much younger ( Pleistocene) “ boulder clay”, the result of large ice sheets having moved over the wider general area.
The Greensand also
crops out to the south of the village. There it forms the eastern end of a similar outlier, on top of which is sited the village of
Stretham. To the north-west of Little Thetford, a further outlier of Greensand, capped by “boulder clay”, occurs in the vicinity of Bedwell Hey Farm. Northwards, an even larger outlier of Greensand, partly capped by
glacial deposits, forms a hill rising to 85 feet (26 m) above sea-level. This, the highest point locally, has allowed the development of the regionally important Saxon settlement of
Ely, now famous for its mighty medieval cathedral.
Even more geologically recent gravel, alluvium and fen deposits are found in the valley of the River Great Ouse at the eastern end of the village; they merge into the extensive flat tracts of fenland which stretch north-east towards The Wash.
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To Senra for taking Little Thetford from Stub to Featured Article status (and not being satisfied with G.A.) Ykraps ( talk) 07:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC) |
I see someone has already rewarded you but I don't think one Barnstar is enough given your achievements. If ever I'm around your way I will definitely drop into your village. You have put Little Thetford on the map! Well done.--
Ykraps (
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— Rlevse • Talk • 18:05, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
I removed a para that should have been on the talk page and is redundant anyway. Your edits are fine. You are much more conscientious than me, I tend to adopt a slash-and-burn approach, and wait for people to tell me I got it wrong (if I did) (: Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
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I would like to create the article Hugh Candidus [Hugh Albus] (c.1095–c.1160). He was a Benedictine monk and chronicler, who wrote a history of Peterborough Abbey from its first foundation to the mid-twelfth century.
ODNB (subscription required); see also
s:Hugh (fl.1107%?-1155%?) (DNB00). However,
Hugh Candidus redirects to
Hugh of Remiremont; the DAB article
Hugh looks quite full. What is the best way to handle this?
Notability. Hugh Candidus (the chronicler) is mentioned in the following wikipedia articles
additionally, he should me mentioned at least in
ps is there a way to find out if Hugh Candidus (the chronicler) was ever deleted? -- Senra ( talk) 22:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
(Edit conflict - HJ beat me, as usual; is far too efficient! Here is an alternate answer, anyway...)
{{For|the Benedictine at Remiremont Abbey|Hugh of Remiremont}}
...or some other hatnote.
OR
OR
On 7 August, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Polly Morgan, which you recently nominated. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
— Rlevse • Talk • 18:02, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
{{ Helpme}} There may be a template missing. On looking at Himbleton recently, it was noticed there was a {{ Navbox}} at the bottom, {{ Wychavon}}. Little Thetford has no such box. So I made one in here. How do I go about getting it approved then installing it? -- Senra ( talk) 16:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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The DYK project ( nominate) 12:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry about the delay in replying. I was out all day yesterday and have been tied up with other tasks today until now. I was going to say; of course move it into mainspace – but I see that you have now done so. It's a good church article, well referenced and contains all the necessary information. And you haven't made the common mistake when writing about your local church of inserting information you "know" rather than material that is properly referenced.
You're very lucky to have a recent Victoria County History covering your area; there's lots of material in that for future expansion if you so wish (my home county of Cheshire seems to have gone into limbo in this matter). There's no problem about "stealing"; no one "owns" anything in Wikipedia, and whatever you have copied from my format, I've copied from elsewhere, or it has arisen as a result of working with other editors. The only significant comment I would make is that I think "Church" in the title should be capitalised. Good luck with your future articles, on churches or other subjects. There's no way I shall be able to write "a wikipedia article for every church in England"; I need help! Cheers.-- Peter I. Vardy ( talk) 15:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Looking around, there are some real knobs in wikipedia. Purile I know, but still funny to me -- Senra ( talk) 20:33, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
When I created that article, I just wanted to tell others there is such an activity. I would be grateful if you would like to expand the stub. Heinrich ⅩⅦ von Bayern ( talk) 17:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Hugh Candidus at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! NortyNort (Holla) 09:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I'm here for a change! I noticed that you've added reference to the Bourne Archive at Aldreth, in this edit - have you seen what I wrote about the Bourne Archive at Talk:Gesta Herewardi? I really don't think the Bourne Archive is a WP:RS, and would emphasise what I said earlier about it being a potential minefield, on my talk page. Cheers. Nortonius ( talk) 13:31, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
( ←) I've got Head open in front of me (sounds grim!), the book's a real pain, because of inadequate refs - anyway, p. 86 says: "Freeman recalls: [followed by the lengthy, unreferenced quotation]". There's a footnote at the end of the quotation, but all it says is "A long mounded causeway is still to be seen running from Aldreth village across the fields towards Belsar's Hill." No mention of Stenton there, anyway, and I've got Stenton, and searched it... I'll probably be offline for some time now, I have a visitor on their way. Cheers. Nortonius ( talk) 19:13, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I just thought I'd let you know I've responded to your comment at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard (RSN) - you can go there just by clicking the title of this topic. Cheers. Nortonius ( talk) 20:46, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Senra, for drawing my attention to the discussion on the Reliable souces noticeboard. ( RJPe ( talk) 13:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC))
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The DYK project ( nominate) 06:02, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
On 27 August 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article St George's Church, Little Thetford, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 00:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
I noticed at the FAC for Little Thetford (great work by the way!), right at the end, you considered adding "John Cary, the 18 century cartographer, documents a coach route from London to King's Lynn passing by the village in his Cary's New Itinerary.[cite book][external ref to map]" but didn't get anyone to give you "permission" to do so. Actually you don't need permission and you should just add it anyway :-) The fact it was on the traditional London-King's Lynn coach route is of substantial historical importance, especially bearing in mind that King's Lynn used to be a more important place than it is now. So long as you have a solid source for it, and it seems you do, this is a perfectly fine thing to add - articles don't need to be frozen once they've passed FAC! It's certainly far more interesting than knowing that it lies on two user-added walking routes on a website that probably isn't a reliable source (in fact if it's a website that accepts user submissions, I'd argue that it isn't RS and the information should be removed). There might be better sources for the walking routes: walking books might be good place to start, e.g. "The rough guide to walks in London and southeast England" by Judith Bamber and Helena Smith, page 246 on the Upware to Ely route, although that walk goes past on the opposite bank of the river.
Given the way you laid out your references at Little Thetford, I wonder if you'd be interested in using {{ Harvnb}}? Have a look at how it works at Lunar Society of Birmingham... the benefit is that if you click on the "short form" citation, you get taken to the full details in the bibliography. TheGrappler ( talk) 15:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
This might help: User:Chzz/help/harvard Chzz ► 20:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
There were a couple of things about Hugh Candidus that I've scrawled on the talk page there; I wonder if you think it could be put up for WP:GAN at some point? I don't think it is quite ready yet but it can't be far off. TheGrappler ( talk) 16:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra. Congratulations on your FA for Little Thetford :) On the Civil parishes issue, no consensus is required, but if you feel strongly enough about it, you are welcome to start an RfC, and I'll help you draft the motion. if you are unsure about these points, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page or the talk page at WP:WORCS.-- Kudpung ( talk) 10:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I saw these, and immediately thought of you. ☺ Do you think that you'd be able to help with article rescue? Uncle G ( talk) 16:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of St James' Church, Stretham at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! hamiltonstone ( talk) 03:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Awesome! My first 5,000+ DYK -- Senra ( Talk) 16:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra. Thanks for your message. I've replied at length on my talk page. Any chance we can work together on this? Skinsmoke ( talk) 02:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks dear for your kind help and support. Kasuri929 ( talk) 14:09, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra,
The Christchurch article has had a second review and a problem with the info box has been highlighted. As you put this together, I was hoping you could advise me. The references given in the box require an access date and publisher; and while faffing about with this, I discovered an anomaly. The info box gives the population density as 859 per Km2 but the text gives it as 873 (referenced
here). I have checked the Office for National Statistics where the info box data comes from and it gives the area of Christchurch as 5,038 Ha which I reckon to be around 19.45 square miles, not 20.17. How were your figures arrived at? Does the box do calculations/conversions automatically or were these figures put in manually?--
Ykraps (
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10:13, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
P.S I am really gratefull for all the help you have given so please don't take offence to my questioning. I am not trying to highlight anyone's mistakes (I have made countless errors myself) just trying to get the article right.
Thanks for doing that. Our figures appear to be in agreement now but I can't fathom the Boro' Council's. They are working with more recent figures (2007 local census) which puts the population at 45,100 but surely then the population density would be greater?! Oh well, thanks once again-- Ykraps ( talk) 15:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
On 6 September 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article St James' Church, Stretham, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
-- Cirt ( talk) 06:04, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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You do great stuff, trying to help new users, and it is a pleasure to 'work' with you. Don't let things get you down, and when in doubt, have a cuppa. Chzz ► 20:36, 7 September 2010 (UTC) |
{{ tb}} JohnCD ( talk) 22:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
{{ tb}} JohnCD ( talk) 14:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
{{ Talkback}} SunCreator ( talk · contribs)
{{ talkback}} Nortonius ( talk) 21:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
For information: I have set up Wikipedia:WikiProject Dictionary of National Biography, since the time has certainly come when there should be a place for collective discussion of the DNB adaptation effort. Please come and participate. Charles Matthews ( talk) 09:42, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
The essay I was looking for is Wikipedia:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. There is also good advice for a new editor with COI at User:Uncle_G/On_notability#Writing_about_subjects_close_to_you. The whole page, by a very experienced (and sensible) admin, is well worth reading, but the key section reads:
When writing about subjects that are close to you, don't use your own personal knowledge of the subject, and don't cite yourself, your web site, or the subject's web site. Instead, use what is written about the subject by other people, independently, as your sources. Cite those sources in your very first edit. If you don't have such sources, don't write.
The same idea is explained at WP:Amnesia test. People find it hard to get their heads round the idea, but if properly applied it provides a built-in notability check. Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 10:37, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
We've had some of our best moments at AFD when that happens, and it's the ideal that we continually strive for. When AFD, and consensus discussions in general, are at their worst, in contrast, is when we have a whole load of editors giving off-the-cuff opinions based upon subjective personal criteria and no research, or just plain sheep voting. The holes in the Swiss Cheese tend to line up quite often in such cases, and the results are sometimes very poor indeed. Uncle G ( talk) 02:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Please don't buy into the "you dirty -istas!". That's a division that exists more in the minds of the popular press than actually in reality at Wikipedia. They're used by people as bad names to call other editors, more than anything else. The reality is more complicated, in part because people do not base their approach to Wikipedia on whether one particular mechanism of the MediaWiki software should be exercised or not. They're here to build and maintain an encyclopaedia, not to take abstract philosophical positions on a MediaWiki mechanism.
The very first article that I ever created here, back in the days before I had an account (and people without accounts could create articles) was nominated for deletion. I'm still here, all these years later. Uncle G ( talk) 00:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I've pointed Jgittins ( talk · contribs) in your direction. Uncle G ( talk) 02:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
It's a power trip for many people who don't have any power over real things in their lives. See Essjay controversy for an extreme case. patsw ( talk) 00:50, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
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For attempts to improve the way we deal with newbies. It's a huge problem here and it's good to see someone trying to do something about it. Hobit ( talk) 02:47, 12 September 2010 (UTC) |
Excellent post, thank you. Herostratus ( talk) 14:29, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
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I have made some changes to the following articles:
Please see if that would suffice for keeping the articles from being deleted. Thanks! -- Jgittins ( talk) 02:40, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
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I see little Thetford made FA - very nice.-- SPhilbrick T 14:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
A really big thank you to all those who have helped take Little Thetford from here to here. I have learned a great deal. Since starting this project on 30 May 2010 I have created ten additional articles and contributed to 39 others (see list here)
-- Senra ( talk) 21:40, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
The Content Creativity Barnstar | ||
To Senra, for growing a Little Thetford from an acorn to a tree... Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 00:38, 29 July 2010 (UTC) |
Here you go, you can start decorating your userpage with one of these...sorta like collecting stickers (decals) really...
Casliber (
talk ·
contribs)
00:38, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
I have just been handed the following re-write of the Little Thetford geology section (which I have wikified before placing here). As Little Thetford is now a featured article, is it OK to replace the existing section with this new material?
Geology and topography
The village, which lies at about 16 feet (5 m) sea-level, sits largely on the Kimmeridge Clay, a Jurassic shallow-water shelf-sea deposit, with an overall south-south-east to south-east dip. Underlying the Kimmeridge Clay, are similarly dipping older Jurassic clays, which also contain thin beds of limestone and sandstone. Overlying the Kimmeridge Clay and lying some distance to the east of the village are similarly dipping, younger Cretaceous rocks, comprising the Greensand and Chalk.(BGS (1989) sheet 173)(BGS (1989) sheet 188) At the west of the village, an outlier of Greensand forms the foundation of a hill rising to some 30 feet (9 m) above sea-level. This hill is capped by much younger ( Pleistocene) “ boulder clay”, the result of large ice sheets having moved over the wider general area.
The Greensand also
crops out to the south of the village. There it forms the eastern end of a similar outlier, on top of which is sited the village of
Stretham. To the north-west of Little Thetford, a further outlier of Greensand, capped by “boulder clay”, occurs in the vicinity of Bedwell Hey Farm. Northwards, an even larger outlier of Greensand, partly capped by
glacial deposits, forms a hill rising to 85 feet (26 m) above sea-level. This, the highest point locally, has allowed the development of the regionally important Saxon settlement of
Ely, now famous for its mighty medieval cathedral.
Even more geologically recent gravel, alluvium and fen deposits are found in the valley of the River Great Ouse at the eastern end of the village; they merge into the extensive flat tracts of fenland which stretch north-east towards The Wash.
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To Senra for taking Little Thetford from Stub to Featured Article status (and not being satisfied with G.A.) Ykraps ( talk) 07:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC) |
I see someone has already rewarded you but I don't think one Barnstar is enough given your achievements. If ever I'm around your way I will definitely drop into your village. You have put Little Thetford on the map! Well done.--
Ykraps (
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07:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
On August 1, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Augustus Voelcker, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
— Rlevse • Talk • 18:05, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
I removed a para that should have been on the talk page and is redundant anyway. Your edits are fine. You are much more conscientious than me, I tend to adopt a slash-and-burn approach, and wait for people to tell me I got it wrong (if I did) (: Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
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I would like to create the article Hugh Candidus [Hugh Albus] (c.1095–c.1160). He was a Benedictine monk and chronicler, who wrote a history of Peterborough Abbey from its first foundation to the mid-twelfth century.
ODNB (subscription required); see also
s:Hugh (fl.1107%?-1155%?) (DNB00). However,
Hugh Candidus redirects to
Hugh of Remiremont; the DAB article
Hugh looks quite full. What is the best way to handle this?
Notability. Hugh Candidus (the chronicler) is mentioned in the following wikipedia articles
additionally, he should me mentioned at least in
ps is there a way to find out if Hugh Candidus (the chronicler) was ever deleted? -- Senra ( talk) 22:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
(Edit conflict - HJ beat me, as usual; is far too efficient! Here is an alternate answer, anyway...)
{{For|the Benedictine at Remiremont Abbey|Hugh of Remiremont}}
...or some other hatnote.
OR
OR
On 7 August, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Polly Morgan, which you recently nominated. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
— Rlevse • Talk • 18:02, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
{{ Helpme}} There may be a template missing. On looking at Himbleton recently, it was noticed there was a {{ Navbox}} at the bottom, {{ Wychavon}}. Little Thetford has no such box. So I made one in here. How do I go about getting it approved then installing it? -- Senra ( talk) 16:55, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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The DYK project ( nominate) 12:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry about the delay in replying. I was out all day yesterday and have been tied up with other tasks today until now. I was going to say; of course move it into mainspace – but I see that you have now done so. It's a good church article, well referenced and contains all the necessary information. And you haven't made the common mistake when writing about your local church of inserting information you "know" rather than material that is properly referenced.
You're very lucky to have a recent Victoria County History covering your area; there's lots of material in that for future expansion if you so wish (my home county of Cheshire seems to have gone into limbo in this matter). There's no problem about "stealing"; no one "owns" anything in Wikipedia, and whatever you have copied from my format, I've copied from elsewhere, or it has arisen as a result of working with other editors. The only significant comment I would make is that I think "Church" in the title should be capitalised. Good luck with your future articles, on churches or other subjects. There's no way I shall be able to write "a wikipedia article for every church in England"; I need help! Cheers.-- Peter I. Vardy ( talk) 15:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Looking around, there are some real knobs in wikipedia. Purile I know, but still funny to me -- Senra ( talk) 20:33, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
When I created that article, I just wanted to tell others there is such an activity. I would be grateful if you would like to expand the stub. Heinrich ⅩⅦ von Bayern ( talk) 17:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of Hugh Candidus at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! NortyNort (Holla) 09:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I'm here for a change! I noticed that you've added reference to the Bourne Archive at Aldreth, in this edit - have you seen what I wrote about the Bourne Archive at Talk:Gesta Herewardi? I really don't think the Bourne Archive is a WP:RS, and would emphasise what I said earlier about it being a potential minefield, on my talk page. Cheers. Nortonius ( talk) 13:31, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
( ←) I've got Head open in front of me (sounds grim!), the book's a real pain, because of inadequate refs - anyway, p. 86 says: "Freeman recalls: [followed by the lengthy, unreferenced quotation]". There's a footnote at the end of the quotation, but all it says is "A long mounded causeway is still to be seen running from Aldreth village across the fields towards Belsar's Hill." No mention of Stenton there, anyway, and I've got Stenton, and searched it... I'll probably be offline for some time now, I have a visitor on their way. Cheers. Nortonius ( talk) 19:13, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I just thought I'd let you know I've responded to your comment at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard (RSN) - you can go there just by clicking the title of this topic. Cheers. Nortonius ( talk) 20:46, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Senra, for drawing my attention to the discussion on the Reliable souces noticeboard. ( RJPe ( talk) 13:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC))
On 21 August 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hugh Candidus, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 06:02, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
On 27 August 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article St George's Church, Little Thetford, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project ( nominate) 00:02, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
I noticed at the FAC for Little Thetford (great work by the way!), right at the end, you considered adding "John Cary, the 18 century cartographer, documents a coach route from London to King's Lynn passing by the village in his Cary's New Itinerary.[cite book][external ref to map]" but didn't get anyone to give you "permission" to do so. Actually you don't need permission and you should just add it anyway :-) The fact it was on the traditional London-King's Lynn coach route is of substantial historical importance, especially bearing in mind that King's Lynn used to be a more important place than it is now. So long as you have a solid source for it, and it seems you do, this is a perfectly fine thing to add - articles don't need to be frozen once they've passed FAC! It's certainly far more interesting than knowing that it lies on two user-added walking routes on a website that probably isn't a reliable source (in fact if it's a website that accepts user submissions, I'd argue that it isn't RS and the information should be removed). There might be better sources for the walking routes: walking books might be good place to start, e.g. "The rough guide to walks in London and southeast England" by Judith Bamber and Helena Smith, page 246 on the Upware to Ely route, although that walk goes past on the opposite bank of the river.
Given the way you laid out your references at Little Thetford, I wonder if you'd be interested in using {{ Harvnb}}? Have a look at how it works at Lunar Society of Birmingham... the benefit is that if you click on the "short form" citation, you get taken to the full details in the bibliography. TheGrappler ( talk) 15:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
This might help: User:Chzz/help/harvard Chzz ► 20:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
There were a couple of things about Hugh Candidus that I've scrawled on the talk page there; I wonder if you think it could be put up for WP:GAN at some point? I don't think it is quite ready yet but it can't be far off. TheGrappler ( talk) 16:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra. Congratulations on your FA for Little Thetford :) On the Civil parishes issue, no consensus is required, but if you feel strongly enough about it, you are welcome to start an RfC, and I'll help you draft the motion. if you are unsure about these points, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page or the talk page at WP:WORCS.-- Kudpung ( talk) 10:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I saw these, and immediately thought of you. ☺ Do you think that you'd be able to help with article rescue? Uncle G ( talk) 16:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello! Your submission of St James' Church, Stretham at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! hamiltonstone ( talk) 03:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
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— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Awesome! My first 5,000+ DYK -- Senra ( Talk) 16:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra. Thanks for your message. I've replied at length on my talk page. Any chance we can work together on this? Skinsmoke ( talk) 02:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks dear for your kind help and support. Kasuri929 ( talk) 14:09, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Senra,
The Christchurch article has had a second review and a problem with the info box has been highlighted. As you put this together, I was hoping you could advise me. The references given in the box require an access date and publisher; and while faffing about with this, I discovered an anomaly. The info box gives the population density as 859 per Km2 but the text gives it as 873 (referenced
here). I have checked the Office for National Statistics where the info box data comes from and it gives the area of Christchurch as 5,038 Ha which I reckon to be around 19.45 square miles, not 20.17. How were your figures arrived at? Does the box do calculations/conversions automatically or were these figures put in manually?--
Ykraps (
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10:13, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
P.S I am really gratefull for all the help you have given so please don't take offence to my questioning. I am not trying to highlight anyone's mistakes (I have made countless errors myself) just trying to get the article right.
Thanks for doing that. Our figures appear to be in agreement now but I can't fathom the Boro' Council's. They are working with more recent figures (2007 local census) which puts the population at 45,100 but surely then the population density would be greater?! Oh well, thanks once again-- Ykraps ( talk) 15:14, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
On 6 September 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article St James' Church, Stretham, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page ( here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
-- Cirt ( talk) 06:04, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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You do great stuff, trying to help new users, and it is a pleasure to 'work' with you. Don't let things get you down, and when in doubt, have a cuppa. Chzz ► 20:36, 7 September 2010 (UTC) |
{{ tb}} JohnCD ( talk) 22:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
{{ tb}} JohnCD ( talk) 14:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
{{ Talkback}} SunCreator ( talk · contribs)
{{ talkback}} Nortonius ( talk) 21:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
For information: I have set up Wikipedia:WikiProject Dictionary of National Biography, since the time has certainly come when there should be a place for collective discussion of the DNB adaptation effort. Please come and participate. Charles Matthews ( talk) 09:42, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
The essay I was looking for is Wikipedia:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. There is also good advice for a new editor with COI at User:Uncle_G/On_notability#Writing_about_subjects_close_to_you. The whole page, by a very experienced (and sensible) admin, is well worth reading, but the key section reads:
When writing about subjects that are close to you, don't use your own personal knowledge of the subject, and don't cite yourself, your web site, or the subject's web site. Instead, use what is written about the subject by other people, independently, as your sources. Cite those sources in your very first edit. If you don't have such sources, don't write.
The same idea is explained at WP:Amnesia test. People find it hard to get their heads round the idea, but if properly applied it provides a built-in notability check. Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 10:37, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
We've had some of our best moments at AFD when that happens, and it's the ideal that we continually strive for. When AFD, and consensus discussions in general, are at their worst, in contrast, is when we have a whole load of editors giving off-the-cuff opinions based upon subjective personal criteria and no research, or just plain sheep voting. The holes in the Swiss Cheese tend to line up quite often in such cases, and the results are sometimes very poor indeed. Uncle G ( talk) 02:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Please don't buy into the "you dirty -istas!". That's a division that exists more in the minds of the popular press than actually in reality at Wikipedia. They're used by people as bad names to call other editors, more than anything else. The reality is more complicated, in part because people do not base their approach to Wikipedia on whether one particular mechanism of the MediaWiki software should be exercised or not. They're here to build and maintain an encyclopaedia, not to take abstract philosophical positions on a MediaWiki mechanism.
The very first article that I ever created here, back in the days before I had an account (and people without accounts could create articles) was nominated for deletion. I'm still here, all these years later. Uncle G ( talk) 00:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I've pointed Jgittins ( talk · contribs) in your direction. Uncle G ( talk) 02:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
It's a power trip for many people who don't have any power over real things in their lives. See Essjay controversy for an extreme case. patsw ( talk) 00:50, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
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For attempts to improve the way we deal with newbies. It's a huge problem here and it's good to see someone trying to do something about it. Hobit ( talk) 02:47, 12 September 2010 (UTC) |
Excellent post, thank you. Herostratus ( talk) 14:29, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
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I have made some changes to the following articles:
Please see if that would suffice for keeping the articles from being deleted. Thanks! -- Jgittins ( talk) 02:40, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
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