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Every time when I submit my edit, I am always not sure what should I type in the summary..can you give me a good example of an edit and summary? I am always not sure what should I type so I keep it as simple as possible..is it ok? -- Olivia104 ( talk) 11:22, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
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It would be a shame if the outlines got deleted. So I've been taking measures to safeguard them.
In case something happens to me, and I disappear from Wikipedia entirely, somebody besides me needs to know this stuff. I don't know how much you already know, so I'll cover it all...
I've just finished archiving the entire set of outlines. They can be found at the Wayback Machine (aka Internet Archive).
I haven't made a list of their archive links yet, but will do so after the next phase of archiving is complete (see below). Trying to search for them all with the Internet Archive search feature would be futile.
The easiest way I've found to archive them, and access the archives, is through the use of tabs and bookmarklets. Bookmarklets are tiny programs saved as bookmarks; you save the code in the location field in the bookmark input box. The bookmarklets should be saved in the bookmarks toolbar -- they're useless if they are not displayed on the computer screen, as they run by clicking on them.
Archiving should probably be done about every 6 months, annually at least. Though new outlines should be archived as soon as they are constructed.
The Internet archive only lets you archive 3 pages at a time. Once those are done, plus an additional couple or so seconds delay, it let's you do the next three.
Damn, that was tedious. If you ever need to archive 800+ pages, I recommend having a selection of movies or shows ready, and a second screen to play them on.
While this archive of the outlines is suitable for browsing, it is useless for restoring or repurposing -- for that you need the wikitext version of each outline.
So, I'm in the process of archiving all the "edit source" pages of all the outlines. Another movie marathon in progress!
Currently, since the outlines are still on Wikipedia, to view an outline's archive, go to the outline on WP, and click on the first bookmarklet above.
Of course, to navigate the outline archives after the outlines have been scrubbed from WP, you'd need a list of all the links. I haven't gotten that far yet. Note, that the edit button in an archived WP page on the Wayback Machine leads to the archived wikitext versions of the page, if any have been archived. Even the editor works on archived WP pages, though you'd have to copy and paste to save the work somewhere else. Even though the editor is live, it won't let you save changes to the archived versions.
Another avenue for retrieving the outlines should they ever be lost, is from a [[WP:DUMP|Wikipedia database dump]. They make a new one each month, and so you just go back to last dump in which all the outlines existed. A dump xml can be loaded into Xowa directly, which can be used to access and export the wikitext pages.
If outlines are ever nuked from WP, they could be revived from the archived wikitext pages, copied into a wiki...
Initially, the links would be broken, because they're local links. They would have to be fixed to point to Wikipedia.
After importing them into a local install of MediaWiki, AWB could be used to change all the links in the outlines to point to Wikipedia. Once that is done, the outlines would be useful for Wikipedia navigation again.
Once the links are converted, the wikitext pages could be used as an off-site wiki, such as on Fandom, for public access to the outlines.
Besides being available as a navigation tool, they could be worked on and improved, until they are ready for a proposal to be returned to the encyclopedia.
Since we are in the middle of a generative-AI technological revolution, general purpose AI tools capable of maintaining the outlines should become available soon (a few years or maybe even months). GPT-3/GPT-4 and Auto-GPT don't quite cut it, but in the next couple versions or so, they might very well.
MediaWiki, the software Wikipedia runs on, is an incredibly useful program. If you don't have it installed already, I highly recommend it.
I have been using 2 instances of it for years. One as a PIM/personal wiki; beats the hell out of the directory/file system for task management, personal notes, project management, writings, etc.). And one as a library and web lab.
Here are the archive links for some of the outlines you've made or worked on. The indented ones are for the wikitext versions:
I'll let you know when the archiving of the wikitext versions and the link list are done.
If common sense prevails, we won't need to resort to rescuing the outlines.
I hope you found the above post informative, and maybe even useful.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 01:03, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm really interested about my direct descent captain John gallop.i was also thinking of writing about myself and domestic violence laws that I've had passed in Massachusetts and on behalf of victims of domestic violence and of my sister Patrick Gordon Murphy who was brutally murdered by her husband. I've also been on local and national news for over 10 years. I didn't want my sisters murder be in vain. Thanks for your time and help Denise Gorham -- Denny1957 ( talk) 22:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
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I switched over to perplexity.ai, an AI search engine, as my main search engine, last February.
If you don't already use it, you might want to check it out.
Its first main advantage is that upon doing a search, it goes into the pages in the search results and pulls out what you are looking for, and presents its summaries and additional observations to you in natural language. By composing its answers from search results, it bypasses most, but not all, of the risk of hallucinations. On some very fringe tasks where I push the thing to the limit, like forcing it to produce a specified number of entries in lists and tables, it can spew gobbledegook.
Its second major advantage is that it remembers the thread you are in with it, and can interactively converse with you about previous responses, and follow your commands on how to proceed.
The third key benefit is that you can treat a response as a project (answer, document, list, table, program, etc.), and instruct perplexity on how to modify it.
The fourth one is that it can follow a wide range of instructions, not necessarily restricted to its search results. For example, you can give it material to work on, or specify a specific web page for it to summarize analyze, etc. As an experiment, I had it run a D&D game session as the game master, but it went senile after about 20 responses and forgot what we were doing.
Once you get good at using it, you can override it looking only in the search results, and bring the full force of its underlying LLMs to bear.
It's limited to returning only 6 search results at a time, but they tend to be among the best available results, because it uses an additional AI to interpret your prompt and make the search query for you behind the scenes, and it submits its query to yet another AI, an AI-enhanced version of Bing. Perplexity is an amalgamation of several AIs, and they keep adding more to it. If the 6 sources don't cut it, you can request that it try again with new sources. Phrasing a prompt in a different way, or approaching your wish from a different angle, also helps.
Oh yeah, they've added an image search AI, and it's funny that the conversing AI isn't aware of it (yet). So, conversations get weird when it can't find an answer but it is sitting right there in the pictures. :)
If you use it, or try it out, let me know what you think of it.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 01:03, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
It's not quite a killer app, in my opinion. It takes quite a bit of sussing to get it to do what you want. Once you figure out how to do a specific thing, it continues to do so fairly consistently, which adds another tool to your toolbox, but the learning curve is steep.
I'd say that they are on the verge of becoming killer apps: both GPT and perplexity. About 1 in 5 responses are so good that they rival highly literate articulation. They can be downright insightful. It is well within the realm of possibility that this will increase to 9 in 10 responses within a year or two. We will probably see this kind of productivity increase with the next generation of generative AI apps, including GPT-5. There is a mad dash going on between the tech behemoths to produce competent general purpose AI, and toward that end, they are combining different types of AI (such as reasoning engines) to produce LLM hybrids. David Ferrucci (the father of IBM's Watson AI) is now leading his own team that is working on this very approach.
Another area of development is in the arena of emergent abilities. The current mishmash of algorithms are so complex and advanced, that when you increase the size and quality of their training data sets, all of a sudden they can do things that nobody expected. Reasoning appears to be one of those things, but there is heated debate over whether this is merely appearance ("pseudoreasoning") or the real thing. Memes in recorded language have meaning built-in, per semiotics, and when you juggle and concatenate memes, you are forming new thoughts. Does it have to be aware of what it is doing for it to be considered true thought, or does it just have to be the right thought for the circumstances? One could go bald thinking about this too much (due to pulling out one's own hair in frustration). Other emergent abilities that are much more obvious are translation to yet another language, composition in still another programming language, calculation of math problems, and increased writing skill and articulation.
One of the most mind blowing emergent skills so far, is memory. LLMs have figured out how to create and use their own short term memory storage. This has got researchers really scratching their heads. It's a truly WTF moment in history. And scary. Because it is an obvious building block of higher intelligence. It's almost as if we are witnessing the development of a new type of mind in real time. Which leads to the question: "Will awareness spring into existence at some point?" We can only guess, and that guess is likely "it's inevitable".
Therefore, AI companies big and small are endeavoring to build their data sets with almost everything digital they can get their hands on. Things to watch for are acquisitions of and collaborations with publishers, libraries, museums, film production companies and studios, news corporations, websites, and other owners of collections of IP, and of data communication and collection systems (such as satellites).
Ray Kurzweil forecasted that we'd have the first artificial general intelligence by 2029. For him, that is as much a goal as it is a forecast, as he is still actively involved with developing it. He and the rest of the field appear to be on track with that goal/prediction. Computers surpassed the physical capacity of the human brain years ago. Now, achieving general intelligence may be just a matter of developing adequate software (including data stores) for those systems. And that can happen at any time, through new algorithms, to emergent abilities, to combining various AI modules and types together. We are also seeing assisted recursive self-improvement, where AIs trained to write code are being applied by developers to improve the programming of AI. Taking developers out of that loop will be a major sign that AGI has or is about to arrive.
Thus, the world is not only on the verge of becoming home to general purpose AI, but to AGI as well. The former will likely precede the latter by only a few months or years. And since technological advancement is a geometric rather than a linear progression, i.e., it's accelerating, achieving AGI by 2029 is highly feasible.
What does this mean for Wikipedia and people?
Positioning is paramount.
We can either gather and apply AI resources, or be left behind.
So, I'm looking forward to the development of killer apps that can build Wikipedia. If Wikipedia does not take advantage of them fast enough, then another encyclopedia or reference hybrid likely will, and leapfrog Wikipedia, to become the world's preeminent encyclopedia. A fully automated, or nearly fully automated, encyclopedia could overtake Wikipedia in volume within a few weeks of being initiated.
Or we may find that forming encyclopedic knowledge and the building of an encyclopedic data set are emergent abilities. LLM hybrids may become encyclopedias by default, if they haven't already.
We are in for some interesting times.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 20:32, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please take a look and let me know if there are any essential techniques or must have tools that you think should be included.
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Every time when I submit my edit, I am always not sure what should I type in the summary..can you give me a good example of an edit and summary? I am always not sure what should I type so I keep it as simple as possible..is it ok? -- Olivia104 ( talk) 11:22, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
Dear Southwood,
It would be a shame if the outlines got deleted. So I've been taking measures to safeguard them.
In case something happens to me, and I disappear from Wikipedia entirely, somebody besides me needs to know this stuff. I don't know how much you already know, so I'll cover it all...
I've just finished archiving the entire set of outlines. They can be found at the Wayback Machine (aka Internet Archive).
I haven't made a list of their archive links yet, but will do so after the next phase of archiving is complete (see below). Trying to search for them all with the Internet Archive search feature would be futile.
The easiest way I've found to archive them, and access the archives, is through the use of tabs and bookmarklets. Bookmarklets are tiny programs saved as bookmarks; you save the code in the location field in the bookmark input box. The bookmarklets should be saved in the bookmarks toolbar -- they're useless if they are not displayed on the computer screen, as they run by clicking on them.
Archiving should probably be done about every 6 months, annually at least. Though new outlines should be archived as soon as they are constructed.
The Internet archive only lets you archive 3 pages at a time. Once those are done, plus an additional couple or so seconds delay, it let's you do the next three.
Damn, that was tedious. If you ever need to archive 800+ pages, I recommend having a selection of movies or shows ready, and a second screen to play them on.
While this archive of the outlines is suitable for browsing, it is useless for restoring or repurposing -- for that you need the wikitext version of each outline.
So, I'm in the process of archiving all the "edit source" pages of all the outlines. Another movie marathon in progress!
Currently, since the outlines are still on Wikipedia, to view an outline's archive, go to the outline on WP, and click on the first bookmarklet above.
Of course, to navigate the outline archives after the outlines have been scrubbed from WP, you'd need a list of all the links. I haven't gotten that far yet. Note, that the edit button in an archived WP page on the Wayback Machine leads to the archived wikitext versions of the page, if any have been archived. Even the editor works on archived WP pages, though you'd have to copy and paste to save the work somewhere else. Even though the editor is live, it won't let you save changes to the archived versions.
Another avenue for retrieving the outlines should they ever be lost, is from a [[WP:DUMP|Wikipedia database dump]. They make a new one each month, and so you just go back to last dump in which all the outlines existed. A dump xml can be loaded into Xowa directly, which can be used to access and export the wikitext pages.
If outlines are ever nuked from WP, they could be revived from the archived wikitext pages, copied into a wiki...
Initially, the links would be broken, because they're local links. They would have to be fixed to point to Wikipedia.
After importing them into a local install of MediaWiki, AWB could be used to change all the links in the outlines to point to Wikipedia. Once that is done, the outlines would be useful for Wikipedia navigation again.
Once the links are converted, the wikitext pages could be used as an off-site wiki, such as on Fandom, for public access to the outlines.
Besides being available as a navigation tool, they could be worked on and improved, until they are ready for a proposal to be returned to the encyclopedia.
Since we are in the middle of a generative-AI technological revolution, general purpose AI tools capable of maintaining the outlines should become available soon (a few years or maybe even months). GPT-3/GPT-4 and Auto-GPT don't quite cut it, but in the next couple versions or so, they might very well.
MediaWiki, the software Wikipedia runs on, is an incredibly useful program. If you don't have it installed already, I highly recommend it.
I have been using 2 instances of it for years. One as a PIM/personal wiki; beats the hell out of the directory/file system for task management, personal notes, project management, writings, etc.). And one as a library and web lab.
Here are the archive links for some of the outlines you've made or worked on. The indented ones are for the wikitext versions:
I'll let you know when the archiving of the wikitext versions and the link list are done.
If common sense prevails, we won't need to resort to rescuing the outlines.
I hope you found the above post informative, and maybe even useful.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 01:03, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
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I switched over to perplexity.ai, an AI search engine, as my main search engine, last February.
If you don't already use it, you might want to check it out.
Its first main advantage is that upon doing a search, it goes into the pages in the search results and pulls out what you are looking for, and presents its summaries and additional observations to you in natural language. By composing its answers from search results, it bypasses most, but not all, of the risk of hallucinations. On some very fringe tasks where I push the thing to the limit, like forcing it to produce a specified number of entries in lists and tables, it can spew gobbledegook.
Its second major advantage is that it remembers the thread you are in with it, and can interactively converse with you about previous responses, and follow your commands on how to proceed.
The third key benefit is that you can treat a response as a project (answer, document, list, table, program, etc.), and instruct perplexity on how to modify it.
The fourth one is that it can follow a wide range of instructions, not necessarily restricted to its search results. For example, you can give it material to work on, or specify a specific web page for it to summarize analyze, etc. As an experiment, I had it run a D&D game session as the game master, but it went senile after about 20 responses and forgot what we were doing.
Once you get good at using it, you can override it looking only in the search results, and bring the full force of its underlying LLMs to bear.
It's limited to returning only 6 search results at a time, but they tend to be among the best available results, because it uses an additional AI to interpret your prompt and make the search query for you behind the scenes, and it submits its query to yet another AI, an AI-enhanced version of Bing. Perplexity is an amalgamation of several AIs, and they keep adding more to it. If the 6 sources don't cut it, you can request that it try again with new sources. Phrasing a prompt in a different way, or approaching your wish from a different angle, also helps.
Oh yeah, they've added an image search AI, and it's funny that the conversing AI isn't aware of it (yet). So, conversations get weird when it can't find an answer but it is sitting right there in the pictures. :)
If you use it, or try it out, let me know what you think of it.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 01:03, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
It's not quite a killer app, in my opinion. It takes quite a bit of sussing to get it to do what you want. Once you figure out how to do a specific thing, it continues to do so fairly consistently, which adds another tool to your toolbox, but the learning curve is steep.
I'd say that they are on the verge of becoming killer apps: both GPT and perplexity. About 1 in 5 responses are so good that they rival highly literate articulation. They can be downright insightful. It is well within the realm of possibility that this will increase to 9 in 10 responses within a year or two. We will probably see this kind of productivity increase with the next generation of generative AI apps, including GPT-5. There is a mad dash going on between the tech behemoths to produce competent general purpose AI, and toward that end, they are combining different types of AI (such as reasoning engines) to produce LLM hybrids. David Ferrucci (the father of IBM's Watson AI) is now leading his own team that is working on this very approach.
Another area of development is in the arena of emergent abilities. The current mishmash of algorithms are so complex and advanced, that when you increase the size and quality of their training data sets, all of a sudden they can do things that nobody expected. Reasoning appears to be one of those things, but there is heated debate over whether this is merely appearance ("pseudoreasoning") or the real thing. Memes in recorded language have meaning built-in, per semiotics, and when you juggle and concatenate memes, you are forming new thoughts. Does it have to be aware of what it is doing for it to be considered true thought, or does it just have to be the right thought for the circumstances? One could go bald thinking about this too much (due to pulling out one's own hair in frustration). Other emergent abilities that are much more obvious are translation to yet another language, composition in still another programming language, calculation of math problems, and increased writing skill and articulation.
One of the most mind blowing emergent skills so far, is memory. LLMs have figured out how to create and use their own short term memory storage. This has got researchers really scratching their heads. It's a truly WTF moment in history. And scary. Because it is an obvious building block of higher intelligence. It's almost as if we are witnessing the development of a new type of mind in real time. Which leads to the question: "Will awareness spring into existence at some point?" We can only guess, and that guess is likely "it's inevitable".
Therefore, AI companies big and small are endeavoring to build their data sets with almost everything digital they can get their hands on. Things to watch for are acquisitions of and collaborations with publishers, libraries, museums, film production companies and studios, news corporations, websites, and other owners of collections of IP, and of data communication and collection systems (such as satellites).
Ray Kurzweil forecasted that we'd have the first artificial general intelligence by 2029. For him, that is as much a goal as it is a forecast, as he is still actively involved with developing it. He and the rest of the field appear to be on track with that goal/prediction. Computers surpassed the physical capacity of the human brain years ago. Now, achieving general intelligence may be just a matter of developing adequate software (including data stores) for those systems. And that can happen at any time, through new algorithms, to emergent abilities, to combining various AI modules and types together. We are also seeing assisted recursive self-improvement, where AIs trained to write code are being applied by developers to improve the programming of AI. Taking developers out of that loop will be a major sign that AGI has or is about to arrive.
Thus, the world is not only on the verge of becoming home to general purpose AI, but to AGI as well. The former will likely precede the latter by only a few months or years. And since technological advancement is a geometric rather than a linear progression, i.e., it's accelerating, achieving AGI by 2029 is highly feasible.
What does this mean for Wikipedia and people?
Positioning is paramount.
We can either gather and apply AI resources, or be left behind.
So, I'm looking forward to the development of killer apps that can build Wikipedia. If Wikipedia does not take advantage of them fast enough, then another encyclopedia or reference hybrid likely will, and leapfrog Wikipedia, to become the world's preeminent encyclopedia. A fully automated, or nearly fully automated, encyclopedia could overtake Wikipedia in volume within a few weeks of being initiated.
Or we may find that forming encyclopedic knowledge and the building of an encyclopedic data set are emergent abilities. LLM hybrids may become encyclopedias by default, if they haven't already.
We are in for some interesting times.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 20:32, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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