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Thank you for all of the work you've done rewriting Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, it's honestly an amazing and impressive amount of work you've put into improving it and making sure that everything is well-cited and balanced. - car chasm ( talk) 19:36, 27 August 2022 (UTC) |
Hi PatrickJWelsh. You recently created the article H. S. (Henry Silton) Harris. I noticed that we already have an article Henry Silton Harris and although the birthdates slightly differ, to me it looks as if they are about the same person. So I suggest a Merger. Your article clearly contains more detailed information but I think the other article has the better title, so maybe try to integrate your infos there; you may then leave H. S. (Henry Silton) Harris as a Wikipedia:Redirect. That's of course if we talk about one and the same person and not two who just happen to have died the same day and both be British-Canadian philosophers. -- Proofreader ( talk) 15:30, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
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Since you are also quite active on the article Philosophy, would you be interested in working toward a joint GA nomination? From my side, it's still a tentative project since non-trivial changes to major articles like this one can meet with a lot of resistance. So we would have to see how it goes. But so far, it has been relatively smooth. Phlsph7 ( talk) 07:06, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
I'm happy that our GA nomination worked out fine. It's also good that we didn't have to wait too long since many of my other nominations take up to 6 months and sometimes more before they get reviewed.
By the way, we are eligible for a Level 2 Vital Article GA award. I usually ask for the prize money to be directly donated to GiveWell's All Grants Fund but you are free to make separate arrangements for your half (see the past discussion at User_talk:The_wub#Level_2_vital_article_GA_promotion).
I was thinking about making a Did you know nomination for philosophy. This has to be done in the next 7 days. The article is well-sourced so the main difficulty would be to find an interesting hook.
I'm also considering an FA nomination at some point. This would probably be a big step since, as far as I can tell, neither of us has much FA experience. I wanted to see first how my other nomination goes and I would get back to you later to discuss the issue unless you have other plans. Phlsph7 ( talk) 08:11, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
I was thinking about getting started with the preparations for an FAC of Philosophy and I wanted to see if you would join again. I understand if you prefer not to since most of the work would be about getting the article in tune with many of the intricacies of wiki policies and guidelines rather than making substantial content changes. For example, in relation to the reference section, we would have to make sure that all references have ISBNs or other identifiers (e.g. OCLC), that they all use title case, and that the page ranges are short and precise. At some point, we would probably also need to get one more peer review to ensure that at least all the obvious things are FA-ready. What do you think? Phlsph7 ( talk) 07:32, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
... that most of the individual sciences formed part of philosophy until they reached their status as autonomous disciplines? [1] [2]
... that Ludwig Wittgenstein understood philosophy as a linguistic therapy that aims to dispel misunderstandings caused by the confusing structure of natural language? [3] [4]
... that in the ancient period, philosophy was seen as a spiritual exercise to promote well-being by leading a reflective life? [5] [6]
... that Issac Newton's opus on physics was at the time considered a work of philosophy? [7] [8]
... that Bertrand Russell advocated philosophy as a means to free oneself from prejudices and self-deceptive notions derived from common sense? [9] [10]
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Thanks for improving the article Philosophy! Your work is excellent. The person who loves reading ( talk) 17:16, 7 August 2023 (UTC) |
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Thanks for improving a level-1 vital article to GA! Sadly, a much more generous offer expired just 3 months ago. The person who loves reading ( talk) 17:16, 7 August 2023 (UTC) |
By the way, a much more generous offer expired just 3 months ago. The person who loves reading ( talk) 01:58, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
On 7 October 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Philosophy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that physics, chemistry, and biology were all part of philosophy before they became separate disciplines? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Philosophy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Philosophy), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hegel philosophy
Thank you for quality articles around philosophy, especially Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, and then Philosophy in collaboration and with higher ambition, for "I'm good at both structural and copy-level editing", - Patrick, you are an awesome Wikipedian!
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I noticed you tagged Tom Glaze - a U.S. state supreme court justice - for notability. Please be more careful in the future. BD2412 T 05:50, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
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Hi! Thanks for reviewing the Literary fragment article I've been working on. I appreciate your comments, and I've attempted to address the issues with the lists on the page. If you have time, I'd appreciate if you would have another look and let me know if you think incorporating the lists into the document and referencing the notable examples is sufficient to address the issue with the lists? Alsonamedbort15 ( talk) 03:14, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
I did not add/edit on the article Summum Bonum, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_mortu-is_nil_nisi_bonum the phrase "de mortius nil nisi Bonum" and with due respect to the author but was simply requested on talk to add on the Heading see also regarding the word "Bonum" a Latin origin meaning good and not to deny the fact that a challenge coin actually exist that is marked with the phrase Summum Bonum. Does philosophy deny a fact due to Bias existence or. Someones saying such information exist, it would be appreciated to at least explained to me the reason for you to deny my voice on talk on the Summum Bonum article respectfully ( The Summum Bonum ( talk) 23:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC))
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Thank you for all of the work you've done rewriting Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, it's honestly an amazing and impressive amount of work you've put into improving it and making sure that everything is well-cited and balanced. - car chasm ( talk) 19:36, 27 August 2022 (UTC) |
Hi PatrickJWelsh. You recently created the article H. S. (Henry Silton) Harris. I noticed that we already have an article Henry Silton Harris and although the birthdates slightly differ, to me it looks as if they are about the same person. So I suggest a Merger. Your article clearly contains more detailed information but I think the other article has the better title, so maybe try to integrate your infos there; you may then leave H. S. (Henry Silton) Harris as a Wikipedia:Redirect. That's of course if we talk about one and the same person and not two who just happen to have died the same day and both be British-Canadian philosophers. -- Proofreader ( talk) 15:30, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
The article
Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel you nominated as a
good article has passed ; see
Talk:Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can
nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Regards,
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22:41, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Since you are also quite active on the article Philosophy, would you be interested in working toward a joint GA nomination? From my side, it's still a tentative project since non-trivial changes to major articles like this one can meet with a lot of resistance. So we would have to see how it goes. But so far, it has been relatively smooth. Phlsph7 ( talk) 07:06, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
I'm happy that our GA nomination worked out fine. It's also good that we didn't have to wait too long since many of my other nominations take up to 6 months and sometimes more before they get reviewed.
By the way, we are eligible for a Level 2 Vital Article GA award. I usually ask for the prize money to be directly donated to GiveWell's All Grants Fund but you are free to make separate arrangements for your half (see the past discussion at User_talk:The_wub#Level_2_vital_article_GA_promotion).
I was thinking about making a Did you know nomination for philosophy. This has to be done in the next 7 days. The article is well-sourced so the main difficulty would be to find an interesting hook.
I'm also considering an FA nomination at some point. This would probably be a big step since, as far as I can tell, neither of us has much FA experience. I wanted to see first how my other nomination goes and I would get back to you later to discuss the issue unless you have other plans. Phlsph7 ( talk) 08:11, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
I was thinking about getting started with the preparations for an FAC of Philosophy and I wanted to see if you would join again. I understand if you prefer not to since most of the work would be about getting the article in tune with many of the intricacies of wiki policies and guidelines rather than making substantial content changes. For example, in relation to the reference section, we would have to make sure that all references have ISBNs or other identifiers (e.g. OCLC), that they all use title case, and that the page ranges are short and precise. At some point, we would probably also need to get one more peer review to ensure that at least all the obvious things are FA-ready. What do you think? Phlsph7 ( talk) 07:32, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
... that most of the individual sciences formed part of philosophy until they reached their status as autonomous disciplines? [1] [2]
... that Ludwig Wittgenstein understood philosophy as a linguistic therapy that aims to dispel misunderstandings caused by the confusing structure of natural language? [3] [4]
... that in the ancient period, philosophy was seen as a spiritual exercise to promote well-being by leading a reflective life? [5] [6]
... that Issac Newton's opus on physics was at the time considered a work of philosophy? [7] [8]
... that Bertrand Russell advocated philosophy as a means to free oneself from prejudices and self-deceptive notions derived from common sense? [9] [10]
References
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Thanks for improving the article Philosophy! Your work is excellent. The person who loves reading ( talk) 17:16, 7 August 2023 (UTC) |
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Thanks for improving a level-1 vital article to GA! Sadly, a much more generous offer expired just 3 months ago. The person who loves reading ( talk) 17:16, 7 August 2023 (UTC) |
By the way, a much more generous offer expired just 3 months ago. The person who loves reading ( talk) 01:58, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
On 7 October 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Philosophy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that physics, chemistry, and biology were all part of philosophy before they became separate disciplines? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Philosophy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page ( here's how, Philosophy), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
♠ PMC♠ (talk) 00:02, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Hegel philosophy
Thank you for quality articles around philosophy, especially Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, and then Philosophy in collaboration and with higher ambition, for "I'm good at both structural and copy-level editing", - Patrick, you are an awesome Wikipedian!
You are recipient no. 2885 of Precious, a prize of QAI. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 22:52, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
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Hi PatrickJWelsh,
I just read your talk page, and love that you are covering phenomenology! I look forward to reading it, and congratulations on reviewing your first article (what brought me here) :-)
Best, Mwikiforce ( talk) 15:49, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
I noticed you tagged Tom Glaze - a U.S. state supreme court justice - for notability. Please be more careful in the future. BD2412 T 05:50, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Hello PatrickJWelsh:
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Hi! Thanks for reviewing the Literary fragment article I've been working on. I appreciate your comments, and I've attempted to address the issues with the lists on the page. If you have time, I'd appreciate if you would have another look and let me know if you think incorporating the lists into the document and referencing the notable examples is sufficient to address the issue with the lists? Alsonamedbort15 ( talk) 03:14, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
I did not add/edit on the article Summum Bonum, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_mortu-is_nil_nisi_bonum the phrase "de mortius nil nisi Bonum" and with due respect to the author but was simply requested on talk to add on the Heading see also regarding the word "Bonum" a Latin origin meaning good and not to deny the fact that a challenge coin actually exist that is marked with the phrase Summum Bonum. Does philosophy deny a fact due to Bias existence or. Someones saying such information exist, it would be appreciated to at least explained to me the reason for you to deny my voice on talk on the Summum Bonum article respectfully ( The Summum Bonum ( talk) 23:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC))