There is a centralized discussion of the geotagging of electoral districts at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Geographical_coordinates#Use_of_co-ordinates_in_parliamentary_constituencies. I'd appreciate your feedback on this. -- The Anome ( talk) 10:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello OIC,
Could you tell me whether or not it's worth researching this claim, which was just removed as unreferenced? I know Deakin did a lot of damage to the Round Table movement in his day, but I'm not so sure whether Menzies spoke out against it much -- I might have gleamed that from the radical nationalist historians. Thanks in advance for any advice. Ottre 21:34, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add the pin point map rather then having the pixel map for {{ Infobox protected area of Australia}}? I've created 2 National Park articles so far but it's hard to get the pixels correct. I would be creating more but got to deal with something in the morning, rather p***ed off about it ATM. Bidgee ( talk) 15:01, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
You've got to be kidding... anyone we know? Timeshift ( talk) 23:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey Orderinchaos,
Can I ask if there is a plan behind your current Queensland LGAs project? I had a look on your projects page but found nought. I am a bit puzzled why you are removing all the 'Council's from the names. Some edit summaries might shed light in the absence of a statement of intent or plan. You make reference to the LGA Act. I had a quick look at it (1993) and it says that LGAs shall be called 'Council of ...' or '... Council'. Am I missing something? Bleakcomb ( talk) 11:03, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I am staggered by your decision to speedy delete this page. Firstly, schools are specifically exempted from A7 deletions. Secondly, pages kept at AfD should not be speedied. If there are spam/BLP issues then these should be fixed by editing. I am prepared to undelete this page but would rather you did so. The way forward is to take the page to DRV or back to AfD if, after editing, you continue to be concerned over notability. TerriersFan ( talk) 00:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I am equally concerned about some of your other recent deletion reasons, particularly the use of housekeeping"
and also redirects of various pages deleted as R3, implausible typo, which is just plain wrong for the following
I suggest you revert all of these. You can then , of course, then take them to AfD & RfD, and the community will discuss them. If they are to be deleted, and some might be, such a discussion is necessary, not your personal decision that the articles or redirects are unsuitable. If you do not do this, would you prefer to discuss the matter at ANB, or at Deletion review? I say ANB, not AN/I ,for this is not an isolated occurrence. I do not simply restore everything myself, as I did what I thought to be an isolated error, because i think this should have a community discussion. DGG ( talk ) 04:20, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I see something about glen forrest primary school here in krakow in poland - and all that above? - thank god I am not in regular editing at the moment - you have mail Satu Suro 07:37, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
An edit on my watchlists -Beer and breweries in Poland was right next to your talk page edit - how appropriate! The bloody hungarian firefox and this dammned keyboard will probably kill my polish category tagging for the mo - we most likely gonna get snow tommorrow-that will sort out whther my scottish cold weather gear works(or not) - cheerski! Satu Suro 13:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
No I got it wrong we just get freezing rain -its poland and above who get the snow :)well it does depend whether you believe the weather reports on the web ? Satu Suro 17:17, 14 October 2009 (UTC) Solved the hungarian keyboard issue-tagging while the wind howls at the door Satu Suro 17:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Oops! I should have known that! I have an A level in geography! HJMitchell You rang? 17:04, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
I consider that the issue needs further clarification in at least the cocos article but with at least a ref - they were (if not still) a demographic fact not a cia fact :( Satu Suro 17:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
In that case the christmas needs the chop and any susbtantive information available can surely lump the two together (ie other than the fact/no fact book) Satu Suro 18:08, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
waiting for trnsfer vehicle- f i get off qick you will understand what do you think about innate speciesist nature of article and category?
will try to check for answer in veinna butcannotpromise Satu Suro 09:09, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't quite know where it belongs now. It's not worth the 'next' election page as it has nothing to do with it now and it's too specific for Rann's page. Perhaps the South Australian Legislative Council? Timeshift ( talk) 04:26, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, regarding this, I was looking for the viewing figures for the Going to Australia episode of Cold Feet. It was originally broadcast in Aus on Seven on 6 June 2002. Just having the total viewing figure, rather than the city breakdowns, would be fine. Bradley0110 ( talk) 21:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for hint. I was looking at the naming conventions pages trying to work out whether it was better to use John Duggan (politician) or John Duggan (australian politician), and how to deal with the manifold bad links that I saw for the John Duggan entry when i saw that you'd already done it. Very quick. Machina.sapiens 11:16, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for handling the editprotecteds on Template:Coord. -- Stepheng3 ( talk) 16:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
For your kind words at the arbcom pages. I just want to clarify a technicality: my adminship was temporarily suspended, and later I indicated I am willing to resign voluntarily if the committee and/or the community request that. As such request has not been made yet, I have not yet technically resign - although the offer is still on the table if the committee and community want to take me up on it (I've been for years an admin open to recall and I consider my offer simply a part of that process - admins should have the trust of the community behind them, and if they don't have the trust, they should resign or be recalled until such a time they can reestablish this trust). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I've replied here: Talk:Peter_Hollingworth - Richard Cavell ( talk) 21:13, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
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it ok beeble and iaresweet - will explain one dayit doesntranslateto keyboarverywell asforthe rumanianand bulgrianbit- will give you a hoot bssunday or so about it as for keyboards - finnish, russin, polish, czchand hungrin-gimme mykidspconeanytime cheers(thesrt is to find althe alt gr ke-the thirdlevel) Satu Suro 06:32, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
"in fact, to be precise, his commission was revoked by the Queen personally" - that's somewhat hyperbolic, if not inaccurate. She appoints GGs and, where necessary, revokes their commissions and accepts their resignations. She's the only one who can do the latter things. I doubt she has any real power to refuse a resignation. A GG who did not want to serve would be worse than useless if forced to stay on, but I've never heard of a vice-regal resignation being refused. -- JackofOz ( talk) 09:08, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
"Muka mi je više od propagande svih boja!!" ..means basically "I hate any form (color) of propaganda" Besides: I agree with his changes in Za dom spremni, especially the citation needed. Goran777 ( talk) 11:58, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello Orderinchaos Lets start with: 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partizani
As wit any encyclopedia Wiki should me objective i shouldn't be a e-book of glorification. My input in that article was about known and validated war crimes don by Yugoslavia Partisans
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Za_dom_spremni Was aiding explanation to translation witch is literal and dos not show thwe meaning in English language
Original was: * literally transl. from Croatian: For home - ready!
I added the part:
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Croatia
I changed the language from Serbo-Croatian to Croato-Serbian The official language of SR Croatia was Croato-Serbian as it is shown in dictionaries that I submitted in the post!
And what happened you bann my account all the changes I explained in talk sections and DIRECTOR just deleted them! Prvi zdrug uskrsnuce ( talk) 18:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
The user has continued his edit warring [1] [2] [3]. No surprises there... Goran should note that he was not the one that added {{citation needed}}, but User:LAz17 (Serbian wikipedian) [4]. All his edits, besides being totally POV, are in blatant violation of WP:LEAD. -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 12:24, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Now he's damaging the Operation Storm article... Following the "pilgrim's route", it would seem. -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 14:55, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your time. Now I'm busy with another one... You've met a "Croatian nationalist", now you can get acquainted with a typical "Yugoslav fanatic". User:Barlo7 has been constantly removing valid predecessor states from the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia article infobox. Calling me a "fascist" [5] and claiming that to even mention Nazi Germany in there is somehow "insulting to the dead" [6]... I tried to explain everything to him [7], as usual to no avail... It never ends. xP -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 18:09, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
For each change I submitted explanation and even proof in pictures (the croato-serbian language) But nooo you just band my account. If you want to be objective keep wiki objective pleas read the input before you ban people. I know that DIRECTOR is here longer than me but that doesn’t mean that he is objective. The guy loves Yugoslavia and that is ok with me, but that shouldn’t be reason to turn Wikipedia into his own private myth-book. As example he didn’t like when I did put the information about Partisian War crimes on "believe it or not" Partisan page!? Prvi zdrug uskrsnuce ( talk) 18:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
You might want to take a look at all the other "x attacks in Australia" articles in the template too. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ( Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:53, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Come on MSN when you get the chance - I want to gossip about some state political dramas :D Rebecca ( talk) 13:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm just curious as to what this edit was about. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 17:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
G'Day Orderinchaos, I noticed you made some changes to the Putney article today and didn't like my reverts. I have been working on the Sydney suburbs articles for the past four years and we have been trying to keep all the articles standardised.
First of all, the road distances I have used have been from the reference material, "The Book of Sydney Suburbs". The book is a bit old now, so I concede its quite possible that with new roads built, there are shorter routes to some suburbs now. I checked with the Street Directory and it could be between 12 and 15 kms depending on what route you took. Fair enough. 12km it is then.
As for the intro to the article we have been endeavouring to create some sort of template for all article on Sydney suburbs. We're trying to keep a standard so that you have all the same information presented the same way in every article so its easy to do comparisons. It generally follows this standard:
XXXXXXX is a suburb in Sydney, in the state of New South Wales, Australia. XXXXXXX is located xx kilometres south of the Sydney central business district, in the local government area of the City of Rockdale and is part of the St George. (the last part being the Sydney region) This is followed by extra location information such as important landmarks. XXXXXX is located on the northern bank of the Parramatta River.
We have been trying to use thsi standard on every article across Sydney. It's not perefect or completely adopted across the board yet, I admit, because we did have another standard originally. We were originally using the 'region' as part of the first sentence (eg southern sydney, eastern suburbs, north shore) so some articles follow the old standard, such as Banksia below which is part of Southern Sydney (souther) and also the St George area.
Banksia is a suburb in southern Sydney, in the state of New South Wales, Australia. Banksia is located 12 kilometres south of the Sydney central business district, in the local government area of the City of Rockdale and is part of the St George area.
My concern with your intro to Putney is that it doesn't follow the conventions we have been trying to use across the board. If we start using different ones for different articles then we will lose the standard we are trying to achieve. A lot of these standards have been selected because they improve the hit rate for Google and other search engines. It might seem weird to repeat the suburb name in the second sentence for instance but it guarantees more hits with Google when you do that.
I hope you can see what we are trying to achieve with these standards and why I am trying to keep Putney the same as other articles about Sydney suburbs. If you have some suggestions for improving the articles that's great but keep in mind that it would have to be adopted across hundreds of Sydney articles to make it standard. Cheers. J Bar ( talk) 07:25, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
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the current banners are enough to make me want to retire on the spot. you - if you are on much might want to have a second thought about the legal status of the nullarbor location viz my rollback - where and how this edit is made i dont give a rats if i am in turn reverted - but calling a roadhouse a town without a cite to me is suspect Satu Suro 07:01, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Your blocking of Corruption makes sense. Otherwise, there could be names like Lawyersarecrooked, Carsalesmencheat, ThePrimeMinisterTakesCashPayments Suomi Finland 2009 ( talk) 00:45, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Hopefully this stupid stunt bites the tools in the bum... so many candidates will dilute any individual vote. I hope they come 14-22. Timeshift ( talk) 02:46, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, the article was much larger than when it was originally nominated and when it was deleted. G4 says "sufficiently identical and unimproved copy" which is not the case - it was twice as large as the one deleted. James4750 ( talk) 03:07, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
What was the meaning of this ? You can clearly see that a number of unsourced additions had been which had to be removed alongwith the unreliable links like ladygaga.shop as well and returning information to WP:LEAD. So would you care to explain it? --Legolas (talk2me) 16:11, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
(Outdent)There was no reason for that warning, when we are clearly discussing it in YOUR talk page. A huge block of unsourced statement, "Telephone" as the single and removal of summary from lead was introduced in the article. Please I request you again, don't do anything as me and Grk1011 are discussing things. --Legolas (talk2me) 16:35, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Hope no one minds, but for convenience I've linked the topic title to the article for quick reference. I also am interested in how this turns out as I'm also heavily involved in the current editing process and talk page discussion; Orderinchaos, if I'm out of hand with any of my edits, please let me know. CycloneGU ( talk) 17:32, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, yeah, on The Fame Monster article, I kinda actually reverted changes that I did not intend on reverting without realising, that were made by other people. This was a result of edit conflicts. So, we're kinda both to blame. No worries. :P -- Kei_Jo ( Talk to me baby! :þ) —Preceding undated comment added 19:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC).
Your G4 deletion of this was correct, but I've undeleted it and protected it as a redirect, since a merge was performed and the history needs to be preserved. The history can be moved elsewhere, of course, as long as it's somewhere. Just wanted to make sure my intentions here were clear. Cheers, Chick Bowen 23:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Orderinchaos. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Cirt ( talk) 04:17, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Orderinchaos. Please be aware that a request for comments has been filed concerning your conduct on Wikipedia. The RFC entry can be found by your name in this list, and the actual discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Orderinchaos, where you may want to participate. Cirt ( talk) 05:40, 18 November 2009 (UTC) Cirt ( talk) 05:40, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Your citing on multiple pages now, of my interest in the subject of Scientology, is a bit of a red herring. Please, take a moment to read through a few of the articles that I have successfully gotten to WP:FA status on the subject, and perhaps you will see that my intention at the Nick Xenophon article was not an attempt to denigrate the Senator, but rather to make sure unsourced info does not get re-added to a WP:BLP article. I think you have got the wrong idea about me, from whoever it was that emailed you. Cirt ( talk) 06:12, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
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I'm very glad we could come to a positive resolution at the RFC that came out of conflict at the article Nick Xenophon. Here's hoping we can both work amicably together to help to improve the content at the article about the Senator. :) Cirt ( talk) 06:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC) |
Any opinion on this? Timeshift ( talk) 16:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Not questioning your tagging of File:Australian House of Representatives Ballot Paper.jpg as such, but trying to figure out from looking at it why F7 (invalid fair-use claim) applies? I note there's two fair use claims for specific articles on there, and I can't imagine how any free use alternative would be possible given all voting papers would theoretically be copyrighted to the state or federal electoral commissions. Orderinchaos 17:05, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, well, this is your point of view, and not particularly well argued either, but despite your poor wording, I see your point. I sort-of agree with parts of it. Clearly, this is a topic of some importance to you. I don't agree with most of what you've said, but there are elements that I agree with. Given that I'm not as passionate about the issue as you are, and that I agree with a number of the issues that you are passionate about, I'll be consistent with those issues. Cheers, Pdfpdf ( talk) 11:39, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
I find your reasons for deletion invalid. Most of the text on wikipedia is not sourced, are you saying we delete it all? Look at any article on a city and the list of suburbs within it etc and they are rarely referenced. We have articles on lists of cities, rarely referenced. But do you deelte them? People create stubs like Dilawalpur enmasse everyday. At least mine had a link to a google map to verify it. You didn't even ask to expand them first. If you read the guidelines on notability of settlements if they are inhabited and verifiable they generally meet guidelines. You are wrong to abuse your tools. I think you create chaos in order. I have articles like Felsőtelekes to start and if you delete my new articles again I will report you. I will try to provide a reliable source and some data. Starzynka ( talk) 17:48, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
OK thanks for your reply. I just see double standards. and wonder why others are allowed and the others not. Why are those Indian villages permitted and not the Indonesian ones.....Why isn't info in articles like Toosa deleted by you if unsourced? I will try to add a proper source, like Hungarian villages I think can be expanded later. I think in many areas on here though we are very poor so I try to start what I can when I'm not working. I only want a more resourceful encyclopedia in long term but I don't have time to waste having stubs deleted so I will consider your words. Starzynka ( talk) 18:23, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I believe that some country projects are less concerned about unsourced and non notable locations - its a case of some projects that cannot be managed well - rather than double standards - the general consensus is that WP:NOT still stands - simple entering of locations names with no Notability or no RS - simply is a pointless clogging up of wikipedia with unnecessarily unusable stubs that will never go anywhere Satu Suro 09:49, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
There is a centralized discussion of the geotagging of electoral districts at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Geographical_coordinates#Use_of_co-ordinates_in_parliamentary_constituencies. I'd appreciate your feedback on this. -- The Anome ( talk) 10:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello OIC,
Could you tell me whether or not it's worth researching this claim, which was just removed as unreferenced? I know Deakin did a lot of damage to the Round Table movement in his day, but I'm not so sure whether Menzies spoke out against it much -- I might have gleamed that from the radical nationalist historians. Thanks in advance for any advice. Ottre 21:34, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add the pin point map rather then having the pixel map for {{ Infobox protected area of Australia}}? I've created 2 National Park articles so far but it's hard to get the pixels correct. I would be creating more but got to deal with something in the morning, rather p***ed off about it ATM. Bidgee ( talk) 15:01, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
You've got to be kidding... anyone we know? Timeshift ( talk) 23:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey Orderinchaos,
Can I ask if there is a plan behind your current Queensland LGAs project? I had a look on your projects page but found nought. I am a bit puzzled why you are removing all the 'Council's from the names. Some edit summaries might shed light in the absence of a statement of intent or plan. You make reference to the LGA Act. I had a quick look at it (1993) and it says that LGAs shall be called 'Council of ...' or '... Council'. Am I missing something? Bleakcomb ( talk) 11:03, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I am staggered by your decision to speedy delete this page. Firstly, schools are specifically exempted from A7 deletions. Secondly, pages kept at AfD should not be speedied. If there are spam/BLP issues then these should be fixed by editing. I am prepared to undelete this page but would rather you did so. The way forward is to take the page to DRV or back to AfD if, after editing, you continue to be concerned over notability. TerriersFan ( talk) 00:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I am equally concerned about some of your other recent deletion reasons, particularly the use of housekeeping"
and also redirects of various pages deleted as R3, implausible typo, which is just plain wrong for the following
I suggest you revert all of these. You can then , of course, then take them to AfD & RfD, and the community will discuss them. If they are to be deleted, and some might be, such a discussion is necessary, not your personal decision that the articles or redirects are unsuitable. If you do not do this, would you prefer to discuss the matter at ANB, or at Deletion review? I say ANB, not AN/I ,for this is not an isolated occurrence. I do not simply restore everything myself, as I did what I thought to be an isolated error, because i think this should have a community discussion. DGG ( talk ) 04:20, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I see something about glen forrest primary school here in krakow in poland - and all that above? - thank god I am not in regular editing at the moment - you have mail Satu Suro 07:37, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
An edit on my watchlists -Beer and breweries in Poland was right next to your talk page edit - how appropriate! The bloody hungarian firefox and this dammned keyboard will probably kill my polish category tagging for the mo - we most likely gonna get snow tommorrow-that will sort out whther my scottish cold weather gear works(or not) - cheerski! Satu Suro 13:55, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
No I got it wrong we just get freezing rain -its poland and above who get the snow :)well it does depend whether you believe the weather reports on the web ? Satu Suro 17:17, 14 October 2009 (UTC) Solved the hungarian keyboard issue-tagging while the wind howls at the door Satu Suro 17:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Oops! I should have known that! I have an A level in geography! HJMitchell You rang? 17:04, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
I consider that the issue needs further clarification in at least the cocos article but with at least a ref - they were (if not still) a demographic fact not a cia fact :( Satu Suro 17:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
In that case the christmas needs the chop and any susbtantive information available can surely lump the two together (ie other than the fact/no fact book) Satu Suro 18:08, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
waiting for trnsfer vehicle- f i get off qick you will understand what do you think about innate speciesist nature of article and category?
will try to check for answer in veinna butcannotpromise Satu Suro 09:09, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't quite know where it belongs now. It's not worth the 'next' election page as it has nothing to do with it now and it's too specific for Rann's page. Perhaps the South Australian Legislative Council? Timeshift ( talk) 04:26, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, regarding this, I was looking for the viewing figures for the Going to Australia episode of Cold Feet. It was originally broadcast in Aus on Seven on 6 June 2002. Just having the total viewing figure, rather than the city breakdowns, would be fine. Bradley0110 ( talk) 21:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for hint. I was looking at the naming conventions pages trying to work out whether it was better to use John Duggan (politician) or John Duggan (australian politician), and how to deal with the manifold bad links that I saw for the John Duggan entry when i saw that you'd already done it. Very quick. Machina.sapiens 11:16, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for handling the editprotecteds on Template:Coord. -- Stepheng3 ( talk) 16:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
For your kind words at the arbcom pages. I just want to clarify a technicality: my adminship was temporarily suspended, and later I indicated I am willing to resign voluntarily if the committee and/or the community request that. As such request has not been made yet, I have not yet technically resign - although the offer is still on the table if the committee and community want to take me up on it (I've been for years an admin open to recall and I consider my offer simply a part of that process - admins should have the trust of the community behind them, and if they don't have the trust, they should resign or be recalled until such a time they can reestablish this trust). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
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it ok beeble and iaresweet - will explain one dayit doesntranslateto keyboarverywell asforthe rumanianand bulgrianbit- will give you a hoot bssunday or so about it as for keyboards - finnish, russin, polish, czchand hungrin-gimme mykidspconeanytime cheers(thesrt is to find althe alt gr ke-the thirdlevel) Satu Suro 06:32, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
"in fact, to be precise, his commission was revoked by the Queen personally" - that's somewhat hyperbolic, if not inaccurate. She appoints GGs and, where necessary, revokes their commissions and accepts their resignations. She's the only one who can do the latter things. I doubt she has any real power to refuse a resignation. A GG who did not want to serve would be worse than useless if forced to stay on, but I've never heard of a vice-regal resignation being refused. -- JackofOz ( talk) 09:08, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
"Muka mi je više od propagande svih boja!!" ..means basically "I hate any form (color) of propaganda" Besides: I agree with his changes in Za dom spremni, especially the citation needed. Goran777 ( talk) 11:58, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Hello Orderinchaos Lets start with: 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partizani
As wit any encyclopedia Wiki should me objective i shouldn't be a e-book of glorification. My input in that article was about known and validated war crimes don by Yugoslavia Partisans
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Za_dom_spremni Was aiding explanation to translation witch is literal and dos not show thwe meaning in English language
Original was: * literally transl. from Croatian: For home - ready!
I added the part:
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Croatia
I changed the language from Serbo-Croatian to Croato-Serbian The official language of SR Croatia was Croato-Serbian as it is shown in dictionaries that I submitted in the post!
And what happened you bann my account all the changes I explained in talk sections and DIRECTOR just deleted them! Prvi zdrug uskrsnuce ( talk) 18:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
The user has continued his edit warring [1] [2] [3]. No surprises there... Goran should note that he was not the one that added {{citation needed}}, but User:LAz17 (Serbian wikipedian) [4]. All his edits, besides being totally POV, are in blatant violation of WP:LEAD. -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 12:24, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Now he's damaging the Operation Storm article... Following the "pilgrim's route", it would seem. -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 14:55, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your time. Now I'm busy with another one... You've met a "Croatian nationalist", now you can get acquainted with a typical "Yugoslav fanatic". User:Barlo7 has been constantly removing valid predecessor states from the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia article infobox. Calling me a "fascist" [5] and claiming that to even mention Nazi Germany in there is somehow "insulting to the dead" [6]... I tried to explain everything to him [7], as usual to no avail... It never ends. xP -- DIREKTOR ( TALK) 18:09, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
For each change I submitted explanation and even proof in pictures (the croato-serbian language) But nooo you just band my account. If you want to be objective keep wiki objective pleas read the input before you ban people. I know that DIRECTOR is here longer than me but that doesn’t mean that he is objective. The guy loves Yugoslavia and that is ok with me, but that shouldn’t be reason to turn Wikipedia into his own private myth-book. As example he didn’t like when I did put the information about Partisian War crimes on "believe it or not" Partisan page!? Prvi zdrug uskrsnuce ( talk) 18:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
You might want to take a look at all the other "x attacks in Australia" articles in the template too. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ( Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:53, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Come on MSN when you get the chance - I want to gossip about some state political dramas :D Rebecca ( talk) 13:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm just curious as to what this edit was about. -- AussieLegend ( talk) 17:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
G'Day Orderinchaos, I noticed you made some changes to the Putney article today and didn't like my reverts. I have been working on the Sydney suburbs articles for the past four years and we have been trying to keep all the articles standardised.
First of all, the road distances I have used have been from the reference material, "The Book of Sydney Suburbs". The book is a bit old now, so I concede its quite possible that with new roads built, there are shorter routes to some suburbs now. I checked with the Street Directory and it could be between 12 and 15 kms depending on what route you took. Fair enough. 12km it is then.
As for the intro to the article we have been endeavouring to create some sort of template for all article on Sydney suburbs. We're trying to keep a standard so that you have all the same information presented the same way in every article so its easy to do comparisons. It generally follows this standard:
XXXXXXX is a suburb in Sydney, in the state of New South Wales, Australia. XXXXXXX is located xx kilometres south of the Sydney central business district, in the local government area of the City of Rockdale and is part of the St George. (the last part being the Sydney region) This is followed by extra location information such as important landmarks. XXXXXX is located on the northern bank of the Parramatta River.
We have been trying to use thsi standard on every article across Sydney. It's not perefect or completely adopted across the board yet, I admit, because we did have another standard originally. We were originally using the 'region' as part of the first sentence (eg southern sydney, eastern suburbs, north shore) so some articles follow the old standard, such as Banksia below which is part of Southern Sydney (souther) and also the St George area.
Banksia is a suburb in southern Sydney, in the state of New South Wales, Australia. Banksia is located 12 kilometres south of the Sydney central business district, in the local government area of the City of Rockdale and is part of the St George area.
My concern with your intro to Putney is that it doesn't follow the conventions we have been trying to use across the board. If we start using different ones for different articles then we will lose the standard we are trying to achieve. A lot of these standards have been selected because they improve the hit rate for Google and other search engines. It might seem weird to repeat the suburb name in the second sentence for instance but it guarantees more hits with Google when you do that.
I hope you can see what we are trying to achieve with these standards and why I am trying to keep Putney the same as other articles about Sydney suburbs. If you have some suggestions for improving the articles that's great but keep in mind that it would have to be adopted across hundreds of Sydney articles to make it standard. Cheers. J Bar ( talk) 07:25, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
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the current banners are enough to make me want to retire on the spot. you - if you are on much might want to have a second thought about the legal status of the nullarbor location viz my rollback - where and how this edit is made i dont give a rats if i am in turn reverted - but calling a roadhouse a town without a cite to me is suspect Satu Suro 07:01, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Your blocking of Corruption makes sense. Otherwise, there could be names like Lawyersarecrooked, Carsalesmencheat, ThePrimeMinisterTakesCashPayments Suomi Finland 2009 ( talk) 00:45, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Hopefully this stupid stunt bites the tools in the bum... so many candidates will dilute any individual vote. I hope they come 14-22. Timeshift ( talk) 02:46, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, the article was much larger than when it was originally nominated and when it was deleted. G4 says "sufficiently identical and unimproved copy" which is not the case - it was twice as large as the one deleted. James4750 ( talk) 03:07, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
What was the meaning of this ? You can clearly see that a number of unsourced additions had been which had to be removed alongwith the unreliable links like ladygaga.shop as well and returning information to WP:LEAD. So would you care to explain it? --Legolas (talk2me) 16:11, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
(Outdent)There was no reason for that warning, when we are clearly discussing it in YOUR talk page. A huge block of unsourced statement, "Telephone" as the single and removal of summary from lead was introduced in the article. Please I request you again, don't do anything as me and Grk1011 are discussing things. --Legolas (talk2me) 16:35, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Hope no one minds, but for convenience I've linked the topic title to the article for quick reference. I also am interested in how this turns out as I'm also heavily involved in the current editing process and talk page discussion; Orderinchaos, if I'm out of hand with any of my edits, please let me know. CycloneGU ( talk) 17:32, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, yeah, on The Fame Monster article, I kinda actually reverted changes that I did not intend on reverting without realising, that were made by other people. This was a result of edit conflicts. So, we're kinda both to blame. No worries. :P -- Kei_Jo ( Talk to me baby! :þ) —Preceding undated comment added 19:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC).
Your G4 deletion of this was correct, but I've undeleted it and protected it as a redirect, since a merge was performed and the history needs to be preserved. The history can be moved elsewhere, of course, as long as it's somewhere. Just wanted to make sure my intentions here were clear. Cheers, Chick Bowen 23:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Orderinchaos. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Cirt ( talk) 04:17, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Orderinchaos. Please be aware that a request for comments has been filed concerning your conduct on Wikipedia. The RFC entry can be found by your name in this list, and the actual discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Orderinchaos, where you may want to participate. Cirt ( talk) 05:40, 18 November 2009 (UTC) Cirt ( talk) 05:40, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Your citing on multiple pages now, of my interest in the subject of Scientology, is a bit of a red herring. Please, take a moment to read through a few of the articles that I have successfully gotten to WP:FA status on the subject, and perhaps you will see that my intention at the Nick Xenophon article was not an attempt to denigrate the Senator, but rather to make sure unsourced info does not get re-added to a WP:BLP article. I think you have got the wrong idea about me, from whoever it was that emailed you. Cirt ( talk) 06:12, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
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I'm very glad we could come to a positive resolution at the RFC that came out of conflict at the article Nick Xenophon. Here's hoping we can both work amicably together to help to improve the content at the article about the Senator. :) Cirt ( talk) 06:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC) |
Any opinion on this? Timeshift ( talk) 16:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Not questioning your tagging of File:Australian House of Representatives Ballot Paper.jpg as such, but trying to figure out from looking at it why F7 (invalid fair-use claim) applies? I note there's two fair use claims for specific articles on there, and I can't imagine how any free use alternative would be possible given all voting papers would theoretically be copyrighted to the state or federal electoral commissions. Orderinchaos 17:05, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, well, this is your point of view, and not particularly well argued either, but despite your poor wording, I see your point. I sort-of agree with parts of it. Clearly, this is a topic of some importance to you. I don't agree with most of what you've said, but there are elements that I agree with. Given that I'm not as passionate about the issue as you are, and that I agree with a number of the issues that you are passionate about, I'll be consistent with those issues. Cheers, Pdfpdf ( talk) 11:39, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
I find your reasons for deletion invalid. Most of the text on wikipedia is not sourced, are you saying we delete it all? Look at any article on a city and the list of suburbs within it etc and they are rarely referenced. We have articles on lists of cities, rarely referenced. But do you deelte them? People create stubs like Dilawalpur enmasse everyday. At least mine had a link to a google map to verify it. You didn't even ask to expand them first. If you read the guidelines on notability of settlements if they are inhabited and verifiable they generally meet guidelines. You are wrong to abuse your tools. I think you create chaos in order. I have articles like Felsőtelekes to start and if you delete my new articles again I will report you. I will try to provide a reliable source and some data. Starzynka ( talk) 17:48, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
OK thanks for your reply. I just see double standards. and wonder why others are allowed and the others not. Why are those Indian villages permitted and not the Indonesian ones.....Why isn't info in articles like Toosa deleted by you if unsourced? I will try to add a proper source, like Hungarian villages I think can be expanded later. I think in many areas on here though we are very poor so I try to start what I can when I'm not working. I only want a more resourceful encyclopedia in long term but I don't have time to waste having stubs deleted so I will consider your words. Starzynka ( talk) 18:23, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I believe that some country projects are less concerned about unsourced and non notable locations - its a case of some projects that cannot be managed well - rather than double standards - the general consensus is that WP:NOT still stands - simple entering of locations names with no Notability or no RS - simply is a pointless clogging up of wikipedia with unnecessarily unusable stubs that will never go anywhere Satu Suro 09:49, 30 November 2009 (UTC)