Brother Mahli, someone have wrongly messed up with the Jat page. Deleted the picture of Jat king and also added unreliable references to show jats as non elite peasants. The truth is well known that Jat are a martial agriculturist tribe. Jats have been mentioned in the list of Kumarapala Charitra, Prithiviraj Raso and James Todd's Annals and Antiquities of Rajputana as one of the 36 Royal races of India. One can clearly see Ain E Akbari that how much throughout Northwest India and particularly in Punjab, Jat zamindars(feudal Lords) dominated. One can Read The Punjab Chiefs and know which group most of the influential nobles of Punjab belonged to. One can also read the various district gazetteers of British India to know the about the Jat landowners. The Princely states of Patiala, Jind, Nabha, Bharatpur, Dholpur and Kalsia were ruled by the Jats as part of British Empire. Several Jat kingdoms like Kaithal, Ballabgarh, Buria, Hathras, Mursan,Ladwa, Thanesar and other were annexed and abolished or reduced to estates. During the 18th century Jats controlled the provinces of Lahore, Multan, Sindh, Agra and also held lathe parts of Delhi, Awadh and other provinces. The Sikh Empire was ruled by Sandhawalia clan of Jats(one can read Griffin's, The Punjab Chiefs). Even before the Mughals Jat were a dominant tribe the Jat Ruler Shalinder ruled over Malwa during the 5th century A.D(refer to Todd's, Annal and... Of Rajputana). The Arab sources also mentioned Jats having the possesion of the country of Kaikanan, Makran, Kandahar, Ghazni and parts of Sindh. Chachnama which is often used to show the low status of Jats itself mentions several Jat ruler like Raja Chandram Hala and Raja Kaka Bhagu/Bhangu. The Malhi Jats even faught Alexander (refer to Sialkot gazetteer) , they even held the Badomalhi jagir. I request you to kindly fix the page. The Britishers also classified the Jats as a martial tribe. One can even read James Tods, the annal of... To know that they were the richest section of Bikaner State, rulers of Bharatpur and Dholpur states , and one of the most important element of the population of Marwar(Jodhpur) and Jaipur State of Rajputana. They totally dominated the Punjab province of British India and the Western part of United Provinces(*they were only confined yo Western District of United Provinces).
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Hello, I'm Sitush. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Jat Muslim, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Sitush ( talk) 18:09, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi friend, I had thoroughly checked all the references personally from the original sources, I have reverted your edits to the article Ahmadiyya-Jewish relation. You may consider...
Regards.-- Drali1954 ( talk) 06:46, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
I understand that Ahmadiyyat says that the existence of Israel will happen but Ahmadis also are very pro-Palestinian aswell which is not once mentioned in the article in my perspective this article only shows one side of the coin which in turn made it lopsided an biased because it only emphasizes Ahmadiyyat's belief that Israel would become a state.
This is a Perfect example of a senior user trying to push around a newer user to conform with their ideals and beliefs (something that Wikipedia does NOT stand for). He later tried to get me banned several times on baseless alegations which proved to be completley False. This user later got banned for sockpuppetry for two weeks and later indefinitevely for direspectful and border line menacing behavior. The moral of the story is if you know an article is misrepresenting a paticular subject find verifiable references and change it even if there is POV resistance by some. [note 1]-- Nawabmalhi ( talk):
Hello, I'm Sikh-history. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Islam and Sikhism without thoroughly explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry: I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, you can use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! SH 10:44, 8 December 2013 (UTC
First of all, I apologize for my late response( I had exams) and remmember:
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- So let start from the beginning and what I took out:
"due to the Sikh faith's opposition to forced conversions." this is not only highly debated but also considered false and Sikhism advanced from a religous movement, to a religious regio-political movement trying to gain control and influence and did insurrections which were harshly and sometimes wrongly and abruptly met by forced conversion (in some rare instances) and other inhumane acts but these were not the cause of the Sikh rebellion against Mughals.
- This was clearly not sourced and biased so I removed it.
"Which led to a British invasion of the Empire of the Sikhs. Soon after the British army began recruiting large number of Sikhs into the British Army, in which the Sikhs made up to 25% of the soldiers in World War I and World War II. This was under the Martial Race Theory that Sikhs were born warriors, which proved true as the Sikhs were awarded 14 Victoria Crosses for their bravery and over 27 battle honours (a record)."
- Now this is no way related to the subject matter of the into of this article no matter which way you look at it and in no way does is it in enlighten the reader on Islam and Sikhism. Also it is historically inaccurate as the mas recruitment of the Sikh in the British army started after the Indian Rebellion of 1857 which the Sikhs did not participate in because they did not have a fondness for Mughals.
- Now if I remember correctly I also deleted to comparison sections predestination and Gender equality.
- Starting with predestination, Muslims are divided into 5 schools of theology: Khawarij, Murji'ah, Mu'tazila, and Ash'ari. They range in Belief of pure free will, to partial, to pure predestination so you cannot make a comparison what so ever due to such diversified views and the was no comparison made or reference provided.
- Now the topic/section Role and Equality of Women is the most bizarre, biased, and completely against Wikipedia standards there is one verse quoted where men are told to protect women and all of a sudden Islam does not promote gender equality. Here are a few verses from the Quran:
- Women are independent individuals, as exemplified by the fact that all human beings will be accountable for their own intentions and deeds on the Day of Judgment when "no human being shall be of the least avail to another human being" (82:19)
- If men were ultimately responsible for women (fathers for their daughters, husbands for their wives, etc.), then this accountability would be solely on men's shoulders to bear until the Day of Judgment. But this is not the case: "And whatever wrong any human being commits rests upon himself alone; and no bearer of burdens shall be made to bear another's burden..." (6:165)
- "Verily for all men and women who have surrendered themselves unto God, and all believing men and believing women, and all truly devout men and truly devout women, and all men and women who are true to their word, and all men and women who are patient in adversity, and all men and women who humble themselves before God, and all men and women who give in charity, and all self-denying men and self-denying women, and all men and women who are mindful of their chastity, and all men and women who remember God unceasingly: for all of them has God readied forgiveness of sins and a mighty reward." (33:35)
- So this article again unreferenced, highly biased and completly unacceptable.
- The rest was Unreferenced or unrelated to subject matter or Biased to an extremity. Also I would like to remind you of that I am being very lenient on this article and that:
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You can't delete WP:Verifiable references as you have done at Islam and Sikhism. What I suggest is you read about etiquette and format at Wikipedia. If you perist on reverting you will gather warnings and will be blocked. Also do not discuss articles on my talk page but on the article page. Thanks SH 14:44, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Islam and Sikhism, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. SH 14:44, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
I donnot know what is wrong with you I have provided more than enough reasoning on your talk page and my own talk page. The content was either irrelevant, and the two sections I deleted had one or no refrences at all so I reallly donnot understand how their WP:Verifiable, and by the way WP:Verifiable references by the way have to be neutral and that why I deleted it some other content.
- You have acted very rudely and by the way you told to put my response on your user talk page. I am going to try to bring another editor whos more neutral into the discussion and again read this:
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Hi, I make changes in the article Muhammad Zafarullah Khan about their religion. As Muhammad Zafarullah Khan was a Pakistani so their religion will also be judged by the Pakistani Law. As according to Pakistani and many other countries Qadiani/Ahmedi are Non-Muslim so Muhammad Zafarullah Khan is also a Non-Muslim called Ahmedi. So kindly revert your changes from Muslim to Qadiani. Thanks M. Adnan Khadim 11:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madnank ( talk • contribs)
I was going to mention WP:DEADLINK but using Wayback to look at the site it obviously fails WP:RS in any case. Dougweller ( talk) 06:02, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Kindly dont change the article picture again and it is my request here. I have arranged them according to accomplishments. It is not to show Any Religious Diversity or Billionaires but to show their Achievements in General and their contributions rendered to the soceity. In the first line I have arranged Scientists and then came the Revolutionaries and then the political and other elite. When i say elite then I am talking about the people who are talking rich in terms of Intellectualism and who have contributed to the society. Billionaire is not a Big deal for me. It is not the Religious Background but the Accomplishment that matter the most.
Also Kindly keep in mind that I also Belong from Ahmedi background but we should not force somethings on others. We should be unbiased at all costs. Love for all , Hatred for None and also unbiased all the time.
Well again i am stating that I have arranged the people according to the Profession in the first row and that is as simple as that. Muhammad Zafarullah Khan and Abdus Salam both are there. Bu I put Abdus Salam and Har Gobind Khorana on Top because in my view their contributions are greatest.Our Younger generation can get inspiration from them and get impetus for the general science and technology.. Also Vinod Dham and Founder of SUN Microsystems can be an inspiration as well.
Muhammad Zafarullah Khan is there but in the last because his contribution were not general but to the One Community of India and for Pakistan. Bhagat Singh , Lala Rajpat Rai talk about all of the India including Muslims and all and their contribution was more general.
The Inclusion of Pash is due to the fact that he is the forgotten author. Also he is one of the First authors in Punjab after the creation of India and Pakistan who talked about Revolutionary movements and that too in Punjabi. Since Punjabi poetry generally lack Revolutionary Writing so his mention is due to the fact of Revolutionary writing in Punjabi.
Amrita Pritam is there because she is the first Recognized Punjabi Woman that was recognized for her literature. The Poetess like Amrita Pritam can encourage our women to take on Literature as they have a role model in front of them.
Also as you mentioned i will rearrange the politicians as the time will progress.
My Basic aim is to add those personalities from which our younger generation can get inspiration. I really believe Science and Technology is the key that is why my emphasis is always on the Science, Technology in general. In the future i will add F. C. Kohli and Satish Dhawan in the first line as well as One is known as the father of Software technology in Indian and the other led to research in Fluid Dynamics and our generation can get inspiration from them.
Have a nice day. Also kindly try to dispute the Qadiani article as it is an Offensive term and some stupid guy is stating that is the second name of Ahmedi Muslims and that is Biased and Intolerant in my view. Mooch025 ( talk) 21:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
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Dear Sir:
Recently you have made misleading edits that constitute vandalism on the "Barlas" page on Wikipedia. To the ethnicity of the Barlas as being Turko-Mongol you added "Persianized" - this is a general and ambiguous term and there is no way to verify such an assertion - you then footnoted it with a book on the Persians but never really provided the exact quote you are relying upon - first, I would ask you do that, and second, even if you can provide the exact quote from the book on the Persians, I suggest you examine the validity of such an assertion.
Barlas is a world wide clan that was originally Mongol and then was Turkicized through intermarriage with Turks - Iran was one of many countries ruled by this clan and to use this simple fact to assert they were "Persianized" seems inappropriate and misleading and an attempt at trying to reduce the authenticity of the facts on this page.
Also, how can you change "Central Asia" to "Greater Persia" when Central Asia is what exists in fact and "Greater Persia" is just a concept or a term of reference and does not exist in fact?
I have seen your previous edits and it seems your efforts to change the ethnicity and culture of the Barlas clan are aimed at a personal agenda to contend, perhaps due to your religious inclinations, as has been unsuccessfully tried before, that the Barlas were associated with Persia. Sir, your words cannot change the truth and I would ask you refrain from playing with such things for personal motives. If you persist with trying to dilute the quality of this article with misleading assertions, I will notify Wikipedia and ask them to ban you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jebenoyon ( talk • contribs) 01:08, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
I am sorry if I have hurt your feelings, but I have no personal agenda. The fact of the matter is that the Barlas tribe is not just found in Central Asia but also in Iran, Afghanistan,Pakistan, and India. Their are more people who claim descent from the Barlas tribe in Pakistan, India, and Iran (individually) than in all of Central Asia. In Central Asia, Iran and South Asia cannot be included.
All the references curently used in the article indicate the Barlas as part of the fabric of greater Persia. --Removed shouting. MrScorch6200 ( talk | ctrb) 05:20, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Now Greater Persia is not a concept, its a reality. Greater Persia is not based of ethnic homogeneity but instead of a cultural and linguistic identity built through various empires Achaemenids, Parthians, Sassanians, Abbasids(1000-1300)/ Buyyids, Ilkhanate, Chagatai Khanate, Samanids, Timurids Safavids, Mughal Empire and Afsharids and the Qajar Empire who all ruled Greater Persia.(bolded means ethnically turco-mongol dynasty- notice that all had Persian as their official language and used it in their elite circles)
Most of the Barlas tribe did adopt Persian customs, language, religion(Islam), titles and married within the local Persians and later South Asians by mid-14th century. The adoption of native vernaculars by elites in place of Persian started in parts of Central Asia in the 18th century although Persian was used for administrative purposes.
Now I know this article means alot to you, but I hope you put your personal opinion aside.
I have not made any changes to allow you to respond if you dont I will revert your edits, and if you persist on doing deconstructive edits you will get a warning first.. so on and so on... Thank you for voicing your concerns -- Nawabmalhi ( talk) 05:40, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
You have not hurt my feelings. Nor have you answered my questions nor provided a source for your assertions. And you did revert my changes unlike what you claimed on the page.
"Persianized" is a vague and ambiguous term, and "Greater Persia" does not exist today. What you are doing is like calling France a part of Greater Rome which no longer exists.
It is also clear from looking at this page what you are doing. You are trying, consistently, to make highly contentious assertions all over Wikipedia, in an effort to try and validate the highly contentious assertions made by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the founder of your religion, who claimed to be Barlas and to be "Persianized" at one point. You cannot recreate reality in an effort to mould it to be consistent with your beliefs.
As for Wikipedia, you enjoy no special status with them and can get warned and then kicked out yourself. I have made a lot more contributions to this subject and it is evident and transparent what you are trying to do. In fact, it is plain sad.
Jebenoyon ( talk) 22:54, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
It seems you did not read my response, and are resorting flaunting pitifull accusations, and your analogies are illogical. (France is part of Wertern Civilization continuum Romans are Greek/ originaters of Western Civlization) Now: 1. All turco-mongol dynasties adopted the persian language, culture, religion etc. 2. The Barlas in central Asia account for a very SMALL portion of the total population of Barlas so you have to have the Indian subcontinent and Iran. 3. Again ALL of the references used clearly show the Barlas are and have been persianized, EVEN the name of one of the references is "The Persians" for God's sake 4. Greater Persia and Persianized are words used and linked countless articles on Wikipedia
Thank you for bringing it to dispute resolution to settle it.-- Nawabmalhi ( talk) 23:36, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
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References are not specific and do not meet Wikipedia guidelines. We have been through this with the dispute resolution process where the editor viewed all your references and said wording would not be changed and you agreed. Your current references are wrong and out of context. There is no reference to support Barlas originated in Central Asia and this is factually wrong – it says right in the body of the article that the Barlas were Mongols – some of them moved to Central Asia after its conquest – the grammar of the wording is wrong too. Reference 7 only states “In late Timurid Transoxiana the perfect ruler was a Persianized, Islamicized Turko- Mongol Aristocrat” – this is a far cry from saying the Barlas as a whole were Persianized. Reference 8 talks about the effects of some degree of Persianization of the Timurid rulers’ lifestyles, tastes and bureaucratic organizations but states they very much remained who they were. Again, this is a completely out of context reference. The Wikipedia dispute resolution page shows that the closing editor rejected all the arguments made by you and said the wording would remain the same to which you agreed. If you look at the history you did nothing for 3 weeks after the dispute resolution and then again went back and tried to change the next few lines with the same content on which you were overruled in dispute resolution. I have now asked for Administrator Assistance, where you have again repeated your previous arguments that were rejected by the closing editor, but since no one has responded yet you are now again trying to change the wording and using your own wrong arguments in support! I now asked a third party editor who has read a lot on this and he supports me too. Here is what he had to say.
Hi and thank you for the message. I am not a scholar on the subject, but I have read quite a lot about it. Do not worry about the other user. Your criticism of his edits is correct. Stating that the Barlas - as a whole - were "Persianized", is wrong. The Barlas were an originally Mongol nomadic confederation and they were well aware of their Mongol origins and identity. Like many other Mongols, they were progressively Turkicized. Most of all, because back then, there was not much difference between Turks and Mongols (hence "Turko-Mongol"): they had the same appearance, had the same habits and even their languages were similar. It was only the ruling elite that was culturally Persianized in later episodes, such as the Timurids and Mughals. But they never lost their Turko-Mongol identity. It was not until the Mughal ruler Akbar that this clan fully gave up its Turko-Mongol identity and became Persianized. That was mostly due to Humayun's long exile in Persia as well as the great influence of Persian aristrocrats and scholars at the Mughal court. It was also due to Akbar himself who had no interest in Turkic or Mongol culture and was known as a great patron of Persian art and language. In later years, the Mughals became almost entirely Indicized. The last Mughal emprer, Bahadur Shah, was known as a poet of Urdu. Urdu had become the first language of the Mughals while Persian remained the language of court. Turkic and Mongolian had no importance and none of the Mughals was able to speak Chagatay Turkic. Regards. --Lysozym (talk) 10:36, 8 September 2014 (UTC) Jebenoyon ( talk) 15:34, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
With reference to your edit summary, did you verify the sources when you made this edit? [2] As another editor is reverting it back to the previous version without giving any reasoning but I don't want to editwar with him unless he is just vandalizing. Kindly leave me a talk back. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 01:27, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
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This is definitely deserved. I would have left that vandalism there if it was not for the source verification thinking it to be just dispute looking at the way it was standing... POV pushing on this article was removing this on pretext of sources since 2012 and before and stepwise to a completely opposite statement which is ridiculous. lTopGunl ( talk) 16:36, 1 November 2014 (UTC) |
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Mujaddid Ahmed Ijaz is not a member of the ahmadiyya community per link you provided. Thanks. --Peace world 19:14, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
I have removed "Rabwah Times" once again. Please go to the Talk page and discuss why it should be added before undoing my change. /info/en/?search=Talk:Rabwah#Rabwah_Times. Sohebbasharat ( talk) 10:55, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
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Please explain this edit? (There was no edit summary). Because they were Ahmedis? Fai zan 10:47, 1 December 2014
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You are misrepresenting sources on Battle of Chawinda. None of your sources have a mention of "victory", regarding the battle, and each of them were already added, except a new one which is also misrepresented. You cannot remove maintenance template and edit war over them until you have resolved. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 21:20, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
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Hi your walking on a very thin line Occultzone has canvassed lots of Indian users to get as many Pakistani users topic banned as possible I suggest you also propose topic bans for Occultzone since hes been creating so many problems lately with his Indian propaganda. Try and canvass other users its allowed because Occultzone rallied Indian nationalists through messages and emails on wikiproject India try and contact pakistani users to help you hes already got support from a indian user to get you topic banned good luck brother your dealing with a very crafty undercover nationalist. 82.132.239.251 ( talk) 21:17, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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1)I tried to find the Hadith but could not. Please advise which book can it be from 2)I have proposed the merger of the said article with Blasphemy Law. Please take a look at the talk page and give your feedback. 3)I have proposed adding the tradition of Abu Lahabs wife throwing intestines at the doorstep. Please view the talk page and give your feedback FreeatlastChitchat ( talk) 04:11, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
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My view is that no other religion has an article dedicated to blasphemy, but many christian majority countries have blasphemy laws, therefore this is a contemporary issue and equating it with religion is meaningless. analogy is that "Christianity does not have any blasphemy punishment therefore the page "blasphemy in christianity" does not exist, hence the page "Islam and blasphemy" should not exist as Islam has no punishment for blasphemy" FreeatlastChitchat ( talk) 06:57, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Nawabmalhi,
I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Kahloon clan should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kahloon clan .
If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.
Thanks, Vanjagenije ( talk) 12:18, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Nawabmalhi, I have closed this discussion. I found that the consensus in that thread was to impose a topic ban on both you & TheSawTooth concerning tall military pages about India and Pakistan. Consider this an indefinite ban -- that is, a ban that could last forever, or only a few days -- until you can convince enough people on WP:AN/I to lift it. My advice is for you to simply stay away from the article & its talk page & let things be for a few months before seeking to lift this ban. Doing otherwise could lead to you being subjected to more extensive bans. -- llywrch ( talk) 06:24, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Dear Nawabmalhi, I am sorry to see that you objected to the lead I wrote for Islamic schools and branches; do you think you could perhaps explain your problems at Talk:Islamic schools and branches#Lead section expanded to summarise the distinctions? Regards, PJTraill ( talk) 23:24, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I'm Mahensingha. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Template:Rajput Groups because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Destined links do not confirm the Rajput identity of the inclusions made by you. Please make use of talk page to obtain consensus before attempting for an edit. Mahensingha (Talk) "Thanx n Regards" 21:01, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi, your efforts at Bhutta Rajputs and elsewhere are becoming a real pain. It's great that you are citing sources but you are doing it in a way that may ultimately be pointless because of linkrot etc. I've fixed one example there and wonder whether you might use that as a basis for fixing the other citations that you added.
I also note that in the case of that specific article you have completely ignored the subject, which is the Rajput lineage. I have no idea why you are mixing Jats in with it. If there isn't enough material to justify Bhutta Jat then I think the solution is to drop the "Rajput" word, renaming the article as Bhutta and removing the redirect that currently exists. - Sitush ( talk) 08:14, 30 March 2015 (UTC)- Sitush ( talk) 08:14, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi Nawabmalhi i noticed that u reverted my improvements in Gujrat District through edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Gujrat_District&oldid=657129121 where i corrected Disambiguating links. Was there any mistake from my end? Now since you have made changes at your end, i request you to please make necessary disambiguating corrections there.( !dea4u 04:53, 21 April 2015 (UTC))
Why did you undid my edit? It seemed as vandalism, although you are an experienced wikipedian. -- AHLM13 talk 18:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
I think you were topic banned by a consensus formed mostly based on 4 user accounts that were all used by OccultZone; Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/OccultZone that DoRD revealed, it would automatically be void but you might like getting it appealed. I was sure of this disruption then as well, but ironically I was sanctioned for "casting aspirations" which were obviously true and well placed. It appears he also used atleast one sock at that report too. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 18:07, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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I upload a picture of the physicist professor Abdus Salam but the picture was deleted for copyright-violation of ©Ahmadiyya 2018. The photo was not a copyright violation but I have no source at that moment. Know you a source for prove that the photo was not a copyright violation? Description: The image is like a painting in which Dr. Abdus Salam is smiling.
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Brother Mahli, someone have wrongly messed up with the Jat page. Deleted the picture of Jat king and also added unreliable references to show jats as non elite peasants. The truth is well known that Jat are a martial agriculturist tribe. Jats have been mentioned in the list of Kumarapala Charitra, Prithiviraj Raso and James Todd's Annals and Antiquities of Rajputana as one of the 36 Royal races of India. One can clearly see Ain E Akbari that how much throughout Northwest India and particularly in Punjab, Jat zamindars(feudal Lords) dominated. One can Read The Punjab Chiefs and know which group most of the influential nobles of Punjab belonged to. One can also read the various district gazetteers of British India to know the about the Jat landowners. The Princely states of Patiala, Jind, Nabha, Bharatpur, Dholpur and Kalsia were ruled by the Jats as part of British Empire. Several Jat kingdoms like Kaithal, Ballabgarh, Buria, Hathras, Mursan,Ladwa, Thanesar and other were annexed and abolished or reduced to estates. During the 18th century Jats controlled the provinces of Lahore, Multan, Sindh, Agra and also held lathe parts of Delhi, Awadh and other provinces. The Sikh Empire was ruled by Sandhawalia clan of Jats(one can read Griffin's, The Punjab Chiefs). Even before the Mughals Jat were a dominant tribe the Jat Ruler Shalinder ruled over Malwa during the 5th century A.D(refer to Todd's, Annal and... Of Rajputana). The Arab sources also mentioned Jats having the possesion of the country of Kaikanan, Makran, Kandahar, Ghazni and parts of Sindh. Chachnama which is often used to show the low status of Jats itself mentions several Jat ruler like Raja Chandram Hala and Raja Kaka Bhagu/Bhangu. The Malhi Jats even faught Alexander (refer to Sialkot gazetteer) , they even held the Badomalhi jagir. I request you to kindly fix the page. The Britishers also classified the Jats as a martial tribe. One can even read James Tods, the annal of... To know that they were the richest section of Bikaner State, rulers of Bharatpur and Dholpur states , and one of the most important element of the population of Marwar(Jodhpur) and Jaipur State of Rajputana. They totally dominated the Punjab province of British India and the Western part of United Provinces(*they were only confined yo Western District of United Provinces).
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Hi friend, I had thoroughly checked all the references personally from the original sources, I have reverted your edits to the article Ahmadiyya-Jewish relation. You may consider...
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I understand that Ahmadiyyat says that the existence of Israel will happen but Ahmadis also are very pro-Palestinian aswell which is not once mentioned in the article in my perspective this article only shows one side of the coin which in turn made it lopsided an biased because it only emphasizes Ahmadiyyat's belief that Israel would become a state.
This is a Perfect example of a senior user trying to push around a newer user to conform with their ideals and beliefs (something that Wikipedia does NOT stand for). He later tried to get me banned several times on baseless alegations which proved to be completley False. This user later got banned for sockpuppetry for two weeks and later indefinitevely for direspectful and border line menacing behavior. The moral of the story is if you know an article is misrepresenting a paticular subject find verifiable references and change it even if there is POV resistance by some. [note 1]-- Nawabmalhi ( talk):
Hello, I'm Sikh-history. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Islam and Sikhism without thoroughly explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry: I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, you can use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! SH 10:44, 8 December 2013 (UTC
First of all, I apologize for my late response( I had exams) and remmember:
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- So let start from the beginning and what I took out:
"due to the Sikh faith's opposition to forced conversions." this is not only highly debated but also considered false and Sikhism advanced from a religous movement, to a religious regio-political movement trying to gain control and influence and did insurrections which were harshly and sometimes wrongly and abruptly met by forced conversion (in some rare instances) and other inhumane acts but these were not the cause of the Sikh rebellion against Mughals.
- This was clearly not sourced and biased so I removed it.
"Which led to a British invasion of the Empire of the Sikhs. Soon after the British army began recruiting large number of Sikhs into the British Army, in which the Sikhs made up to 25% of the soldiers in World War I and World War II. This was under the Martial Race Theory that Sikhs were born warriors, which proved true as the Sikhs were awarded 14 Victoria Crosses for their bravery and over 27 battle honours (a record)."
- Now this is no way related to the subject matter of the into of this article no matter which way you look at it and in no way does is it in enlighten the reader on Islam and Sikhism. Also it is historically inaccurate as the mas recruitment of the Sikh in the British army started after the Indian Rebellion of 1857 which the Sikhs did not participate in because they did not have a fondness for Mughals.
- Now if I remember correctly I also deleted to comparison sections predestination and Gender equality.
- Starting with predestination, Muslims are divided into 5 schools of theology: Khawarij, Murji'ah, Mu'tazila, and Ash'ari. They range in Belief of pure free will, to partial, to pure predestination so you cannot make a comparison what so ever due to such diversified views and the was no comparison made or reference provided.
- Now the topic/section Role and Equality of Women is the most bizarre, biased, and completely against Wikipedia standards there is one verse quoted where men are told to protect women and all of a sudden Islam does not promote gender equality. Here are a few verses from the Quran:
- Women are independent individuals, as exemplified by the fact that all human beings will be accountable for their own intentions and deeds on the Day of Judgment when "no human being shall be of the least avail to another human being" (82:19)
- If men were ultimately responsible for women (fathers for their daughters, husbands for their wives, etc.), then this accountability would be solely on men's shoulders to bear until the Day of Judgment. But this is not the case: "And whatever wrong any human being commits rests upon himself alone; and no bearer of burdens shall be made to bear another's burden..." (6:165)
- "Verily for all men and women who have surrendered themselves unto God, and all believing men and believing women, and all truly devout men and truly devout women, and all men and women who are true to their word, and all men and women who are patient in adversity, and all men and women who humble themselves before God, and all men and women who give in charity, and all self-denying men and self-denying women, and all men and women who are mindful of their chastity, and all men and women who remember God unceasingly: for all of them has God readied forgiveness of sins and a mighty reward." (33:35)
- So this article again unreferenced, highly biased and completly unacceptable.
- The rest was Unreferenced or unrelated to subject matter or Biased to an extremity. Also I would like to remind you of that I am being very lenient on this article and that:
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You can't delete WP:Verifiable references as you have done at Islam and Sikhism. What I suggest is you read about etiquette and format at Wikipedia. If you perist on reverting you will gather warnings and will be blocked. Also do not discuss articles on my talk page but on the article page. Thanks SH 14:44, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Islam and Sikhism, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. SH 14:44, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
I donnot know what is wrong with you I have provided more than enough reasoning on your talk page and my own talk page. The content was either irrelevant, and the two sections I deleted had one or no refrences at all so I reallly donnot understand how their WP:Verifiable, and by the way WP:Verifiable references by the way have to be neutral and that why I deleted it some other content.
- You have acted very rudely and by the way you told to put my response on your user talk page. I am going to try to bring another editor whos more neutral into the discussion and again read this:
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Hi, I make changes in the article Muhammad Zafarullah Khan about their religion. As Muhammad Zafarullah Khan was a Pakistani so their religion will also be judged by the Pakistani Law. As according to Pakistani and many other countries Qadiani/Ahmedi are Non-Muslim so Muhammad Zafarullah Khan is also a Non-Muslim called Ahmedi. So kindly revert your changes from Muslim to Qadiani. Thanks M. Adnan Khadim 11:42, 6 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madnank ( talk • contribs)
I was going to mention WP:DEADLINK but using Wayback to look at the site it obviously fails WP:RS in any case. Dougweller ( talk) 06:02, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Kindly dont change the article picture again and it is my request here. I have arranged them according to accomplishments. It is not to show Any Religious Diversity or Billionaires but to show their Achievements in General and their contributions rendered to the soceity. In the first line I have arranged Scientists and then came the Revolutionaries and then the political and other elite. When i say elite then I am talking about the people who are talking rich in terms of Intellectualism and who have contributed to the society. Billionaire is not a Big deal for me. It is not the Religious Background but the Accomplishment that matter the most.
Also Kindly keep in mind that I also Belong from Ahmedi background but we should not force somethings on others. We should be unbiased at all costs. Love for all , Hatred for None and also unbiased all the time.
Well again i am stating that I have arranged the people according to the Profession in the first row and that is as simple as that. Muhammad Zafarullah Khan and Abdus Salam both are there. Bu I put Abdus Salam and Har Gobind Khorana on Top because in my view their contributions are greatest.Our Younger generation can get inspiration from them and get impetus for the general science and technology.. Also Vinod Dham and Founder of SUN Microsystems can be an inspiration as well.
Muhammad Zafarullah Khan is there but in the last because his contribution were not general but to the One Community of India and for Pakistan. Bhagat Singh , Lala Rajpat Rai talk about all of the India including Muslims and all and their contribution was more general.
The Inclusion of Pash is due to the fact that he is the forgotten author. Also he is one of the First authors in Punjab after the creation of India and Pakistan who talked about Revolutionary movements and that too in Punjabi. Since Punjabi poetry generally lack Revolutionary Writing so his mention is due to the fact of Revolutionary writing in Punjabi.
Amrita Pritam is there because she is the first Recognized Punjabi Woman that was recognized for her literature. The Poetess like Amrita Pritam can encourage our women to take on Literature as they have a role model in front of them.
Also as you mentioned i will rearrange the politicians as the time will progress.
My Basic aim is to add those personalities from which our younger generation can get inspiration. I really believe Science and Technology is the key that is why my emphasis is always on the Science, Technology in general. In the future i will add F. C. Kohli and Satish Dhawan in the first line as well as One is known as the father of Software technology in Indian and the other led to research in Fluid Dynamics and our generation can get inspiration from them.
Have a nice day. Also kindly try to dispute the Qadiani article as it is an Offensive term and some stupid guy is stating that is the second name of Ahmedi Muslims and that is Biased and Intolerant in my view. Mooch025 ( talk) 21:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
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Dear Sir:
Recently you have made misleading edits that constitute vandalism on the "Barlas" page on Wikipedia. To the ethnicity of the Barlas as being Turko-Mongol you added "Persianized" - this is a general and ambiguous term and there is no way to verify such an assertion - you then footnoted it with a book on the Persians but never really provided the exact quote you are relying upon - first, I would ask you do that, and second, even if you can provide the exact quote from the book on the Persians, I suggest you examine the validity of such an assertion.
Barlas is a world wide clan that was originally Mongol and then was Turkicized through intermarriage with Turks - Iran was one of many countries ruled by this clan and to use this simple fact to assert they were "Persianized" seems inappropriate and misleading and an attempt at trying to reduce the authenticity of the facts on this page.
Also, how can you change "Central Asia" to "Greater Persia" when Central Asia is what exists in fact and "Greater Persia" is just a concept or a term of reference and does not exist in fact?
I have seen your previous edits and it seems your efforts to change the ethnicity and culture of the Barlas clan are aimed at a personal agenda to contend, perhaps due to your religious inclinations, as has been unsuccessfully tried before, that the Barlas were associated with Persia. Sir, your words cannot change the truth and I would ask you refrain from playing with such things for personal motives. If you persist with trying to dilute the quality of this article with misleading assertions, I will notify Wikipedia and ask them to ban you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jebenoyon ( talk • contribs) 01:08, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
I am sorry if I have hurt your feelings, but I have no personal agenda. The fact of the matter is that the Barlas tribe is not just found in Central Asia but also in Iran, Afghanistan,Pakistan, and India. Their are more people who claim descent from the Barlas tribe in Pakistan, India, and Iran (individually) than in all of Central Asia. In Central Asia, Iran and South Asia cannot be included.
All the references curently used in the article indicate the Barlas as part of the fabric of greater Persia. --Removed shouting. MrScorch6200 ( talk | ctrb) 05:20, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Now Greater Persia is not a concept, its a reality. Greater Persia is not based of ethnic homogeneity but instead of a cultural and linguistic identity built through various empires Achaemenids, Parthians, Sassanians, Abbasids(1000-1300)/ Buyyids, Ilkhanate, Chagatai Khanate, Samanids, Timurids Safavids, Mughal Empire and Afsharids and the Qajar Empire who all ruled Greater Persia.(bolded means ethnically turco-mongol dynasty- notice that all had Persian as their official language and used it in their elite circles)
Most of the Barlas tribe did adopt Persian customs, language, religion(Islam), titles and married within the local Persians and later South Asians by mid-14th century. The adoption of native vernaculars by elites in place of Persian started in parts of Central Asia in the 18th century although Persian was used for administrative purposes.
Now I know this article means alot to you, but I hope you put your personal opinion aside.
I have not made any changes to allow you to respond if you dont I will revert your edits, and if you persist on doing deconstructive edits you will get a warning first.. so on and so on... Thank you for voicing your concerns -- Nawabmalhi ( talk) 05:40, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
You have not hurt my feelings. Nor have you answered my questions nor provided a source for your assertions. And you did revert my changes unlike what you claimed on the page.
"Persianized" is a vague and ambiguous term, and "Greater Persia" does not exist today. What you are doing is like calling France a part of Greater Rome which no longer exists.
It is also clear from looking at this page what you are doing. You are trying, consistently, to make highly contentious assertions all over Wikipedia, in an effort to try and validate the highly contentious assertions made by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the founder of your religion, who claimed to be Barlas and to be "Persianized" at one point. You cannot recreate reality in an effort to mould it to be consistent with your beliefs.
As for Wikipedia, you enjoy no special status with them and can get warned and then kicked out yourself. I have made a lot more contributions to this subject and it is evident and transparent what you are trying to do. In fact, it is plain sad.
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It seems you did not read my response, and are resorting flaunting pitifull accusations, and your analogies are illogical. (France is part of Wertern Civilization continuum Romans are Greek/ originaters of Western Civlization) Now: 1. All turco-mongol dynasties adopted the persian language, culture, religion etc. 2. The Barlas in central Asia account for a very SMALL portion of the total population of Barlas so you have to have the Indian subcontinent and Iran. 3. Again ALL of the references used clearly show the Barlas are and have been persianized, EVEN the name of one of the references is "The Persians" for God's sake 4. Greater Persia and Persianized are words used and linked countless articles on Wikipedia
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References are not specific and do not meet Wikipedia guidelines. We have been through this with the dispute resolution process where the editor viewed all your references and said wording would not be changed and you agreed. Your current references are wrong and out of context. There is no reference to support Barlas originated in Central Asia and this is factually wrong – it says right in the body of the article that the Barlas were Mongols – some of them moved to Central Asia after its conquest – the grammar of the wording is wrong too. Reference 7 only states “In late Timurid Transoxiana the perfect ruler was a Persianized, Islamicized Turko- Mongol Aristocrat” – this is a far cry from saying the Barlas as a whole were Persianized. Reference 8 talks about the effects of some degree of Persianization of the Timurid rulers’ lifestyles, tastes and bureaucratic organizations but states they very much remained who they were. Again, this is a completely out of context reference. The Wikipedia dispute resolution page shows that the closing editor rejected all the arguments made by you and said the wording would remain the same to which you agreed. If you look at the history you did nothing for 3 weeks after the dispute resolution and then again went back and tried to change the next few lines with the same content on which you were overruled in dispute resolution. I have now asked for Administrator Assistance, where you have again repeated your previous arguments that were rejected by the closing editor, but since no one has responded yet you are now again trying to change the wording and using your own wrong arguments in support! I now asked a third party editor who has read a lot on this and he supports me too. Here is what he had to say.
Hi and thank you for the message. I am not a scholar on the subject, but I have read quite a lot about it. Do not worry about the other user. Your criticism of his edits is correct. Stating that the Barlas - as a whole - were "Persianized", is wrong. The Barlas were an originally Mongol nomadic confederation and they were well aware of their Mongol origins and identity. Like many other Mongols, they were progressively Turkicized. Most of all, because back then, there was not much difference between Turks and Mongols (hence "Turko-Mongol"): they had the same appearance, had the same habits and even their languages were similar. It was only the ruling elite that was culturally Persianized in later episodes, such as the Timurids and Mughals. But they never lost their Turko-Mongol identity. It was not until the Mughal ruler Akbar that this clan fully gave up its Turko-Mongol identity and became Persianized. That was mostly due to Humayun's long exile in Persia as well as the great influence of Persian aristrocrats and scholars at the Mughal court. It was also due to Akbar himself who had no interest in Turkic or Mongol culture and was known as a great patron of Persian art and language. In later years, the Mughals became almost entirely Indicized. The last Mughal emprer, Bahadur Shah, was known as a poet of Urdu. Urdu had become the first language of the Mughals while Persian remained the language of court. Turkic and Mongolian had no importance and none of the Mughals was able to speak Chagatay Turkic. Regards. --Lysozym (talk) 10:36, 8 September 2014 (UTC) Jebenoyon ( talk) 15:34, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
With reference to your edit summary, did you verify the sources when you made this edit? [2] As another editor is reverting it back to the previous version without giving any reasoning but I don't want to editwar with him unless he is just vandalizing. Kindly leave me a talk back. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 01:27, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
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This is definitely deserved. I would have left that vandalism there if it was not for the source verification thinking it to be just dispute looking at the way it was standing... POV pushing on this article was removing this on pretext of sources since 2012 and before and stepwise to a completely opposite statement which is ridiculous. lTopGunl ( talk) 16:36, 1 November 2014 (UTC) |
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Please explain this edit? (There was no edit summary). Because they were Ahmedis? Fai zan 10:47, 1 December 2014
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You are misrepresenting sources on Battle of Chawinda. None of your sources have a mention of "victory", regarding the battle, and each of them were already added, except a new one which is also misrepresented. You cannot remove maintenance template and edit war over them until you have resolved. OccultZone ( Talk • Contributions • Log) 21:20, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
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Hi your walking on a very thin line Occultzone has canvassed lots of Indian users to get as many Pakistani users topic banned as possible I suggest you also propose topic bans for Occultzone since hes been creating so many problems lately with his Indian propaganda. Try and canvass other users its allowed because Occultzone rallied Indian nationalists through messages and emails on wikiproject India try and contact pakistani users to help you hes already got support from a indian user to get you topic banned good luck brother your dealing with a very crafty undercover nationalist. 82.132.239.251 ( talk) 21:17, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
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My view is that no other religion has an article dedicated to blasphemy, but many christian majority countries have blasphemy laws, therefore this is a contemporary issue and equating it with religion is meaningless. analogy is that "Christianity does not have any blasphemy punishment therefore the page "blasphemy in christianity" does not exist, hence the page "Islam and blasphemy" should not exist as Islam has no punishment for blasphemy" FreeatlastChitchat ( talk) 06:57, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
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Nawabmalhi, I have closed this discussion. I found that the consensus in that thread was to impose a topic ban on both you & TheSawTooth concerning tall military pages about India and Pakistan. Consider this an indefinite ban -- that is, a ban that could last forever, or only a few days -- until you can convince enough people on WP:AN/I to lift it. My advice is for you to simply stay away from the article & its talk page & let things be for a few months before seeking to lift this ban. Doing otherwise could lead to you being subjected to more extensive bans. -- llywrch ( talk) 06:24, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Dear Nawabmalhi, I am sorry to see that you objected to the lead I wrote for Islamic schools and branches; do you think you could perhaps explain your problems at Talk:Islamic schools and branches#Lead section expanded to summarise the distinctions? Regards, PJTraill ( talk) 23:24, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
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Hi, your efforts at Bhutta Rajputs and elsewhere are becoming a real pain. It's great that you are citing sources but you are doing it in a way that may ultimately be pointless because of linkrot etc. I've fixed one example there and wonder whether you might use that as a basis for fixing the other citations that you added.
I also note that in the case of that specific article you have completely ignored the subject, which is the Rajput lineage. I have no idea why you are mixing Jats in with it. If there isn't enough material to justify Bhutta Jat then I think the solution is to drop the "Rajput" word, renaming the article as Bhutta and removing the redirect that currently exists. - Sitush ( talk) 08:14, 30 March 2015 (UTC)- Sitush ( talk) 08:14, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi Nawabmalhi i noticed that u reverted my improvements in Gujrat District through edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Gujrat_District&oldid=657129121 where i corrected Disambiguating links. Was there any mistake from my end? Now since you have made changes at your end, i request you to please make necessary disambiguating corrections there.( !dea4u 04:53, 21 April 2015 (UTC))
Why did you undid my edit? It seemed as vandalism, although you are an experienced wikipedian. -- AHLM13 talk 18:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
I think you were topic banned by a consensus formed mostly based on 4 user accounts that were all used by OccultZone; Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/OccultZone that DoRD revealed, it would automatically be void but you might like getting it appealed. I was sure of this disruption then as well, but ironically I was sanctioned for "casting aspirations" which were obviously true and well placed. It appears he also used atleast one sock at that report too. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 18:07, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
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I upload a picture of the physicist professor Abdus Salam but the picture was deleted for copyright-violation of ©Ahmadiyya 2018. The photo was not a copyright violation but I have no source at that moment. Know you a source for prove that the photo was not a copyright violation? Description: The image is like a painting in which Dr. Abdus Salam is smiling.
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