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Hi I live in Rainworth and I was going to add a sound to show how the village name is pronounced however it's locked. Could you contact me at (awindup) at hotmail.com to get an authentic pronunciation? Yours Paul Pengelly Fyi if you prefer to do it yourself that's fine just trying to help. Awindup ( talk) 12:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
A move request regarding Deadline.com / Deadline Hollywood, an article you have edited, is taking place at Talk:Deadline Hollywood#Requested move 11 March 2018. It is scheduled to end in seven days.-- Tenebrae ( talk) 19:20, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello,
There will be some changes to the way wikitext is parsed during the next few weeks. It will affect all namespaces. You can see a list of pages that may display incorrectly at Special:LintErrors. Since most of the easy problems have already been solved at the English Wikipedia, I am specifically contacting tech-savvy editors such as yourself with this one-time message, in the hope that you will be able to investigate the remaining high-priority pages during the next month.
There are approximately 10,000 articles (and many more non-article pages) with high-priority errors. The most important ones are the articles with misnested tags and table problems. Some of these involve templates, such as infoboxes, or the way the template is used in the article. In some cases, the "error" is a minor, unimportant difference in the visual appearance. In other cases, the results are undesirable. You can see a before-and-after comparison of any article by adding ?action=parsermigration-edit to the end of a link, like this: /info/en/?search=Arthur_Foss?action=parsermigration-edit (which shows a difference in how {{ infobox ship}} is parsed).
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Thank you for all the good things you do for the English Wikipedia. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 21:18, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
I was very disappointed by your deletion of the list of YouTube links to "Notable speakers of RP". I have had quite a lot of positive feedback about them from readers. I proposed adding the links on the Talk page some time ago, and asked for comments, but I got nothing from you (or anyone else). I have to say that if I had been going to delete a piece of your work, I would have notified you beforehand. I have now moved the links to my own website, with a link to that. I sincerely hope you will not now go on to delete the specimen of RP that I contributed some time ago. RoachPeter ( talk) 14:19, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
I have to say that if I had been going to delete a piece of your work, I would have notified you beforehand.Edits on Wikipedia do not need prior discussion so long as they are supported by valid reason – see Wikipedia:Be bold. While I admire your work as a phonetician and I have no reason to doubt your intention to improve Wikipedia, I can't imagine any experienced editor approving of your edit in question in light of WP:LINKFARM, WP:External links, etc. Nardog ( talk) 00:04, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Some external links are welcome ... but it is not Wikipedia's purpose to include a lengthy or comprehensive list of external links related to each topic;
With rare exceptions, external links should not be used in the body of an article; and
External links to websites that display copyrighted works are acceptable as long as the website is manifestly run, maintained or owned by the copyright owner. Also note that it says
The burden of providing this justification is on the person who wants to include an external link. I strongly recommend you take a thorough look at the guideline, along with some of the policies and guidelines it links to, particularly Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not.
Hi. Was ⟨ω⟩ ever an official symbol, or was it just an invention of Wells? If it's the former, maybe it'd be good to use the symbol on near-close back unrounded vowel. Mr KEBAB ( talk) 10:24, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Nardog. This outburst reminded me that you still haven't addressed the last comment I made at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan/Archive/January 2018# How hair-splitting should an IPA pronunciation guide be?—in particular, where I pointed out that Help:IPA/Japanese tells us that [ɯ] is pronounced at the as the [uː] in "food" (the whole dispute at ukiyo-e was over the use of [u] vs [ɯ]). That really can't go unadressed. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:31, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
giving readers a simple IPA pronunciation guide with links to the nitty-gritty details for those interested in themis what we already do. (I assume your argument is that the IPA pronunciation guides are already too nitty-gritty and should be simpler?) In any case, if you believe we should do things differently, I'd appreciate if you posted that at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Pronunciation or wherever appropriate rather than here. Nardog ( talk) 11:30, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
About your question: why not ask User:Bishonen if this is still an issue for you. To me, the block length appears normal for the incivility regardless of the details. See this comment by Mr KEBAB which I assume is typical. At least, Jakeroberts93 said Mr K leaves 'very demeaning messages' in a comment just above yours at AN3. I did not check all of Mr KEBAB's past comments, but let me know if you disagree. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 03:03, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Where can I find detailed explanations about #if #switch #invoke? Harsh Rathod Poke me! 15:33, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I asked you because you are a template editor and I thought you would reply fast. But no problem, thanks for the advice. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 04:00, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Can you help me to write the IPA for Yuna in Yuna page? You can hear the word 'Yuna' from any videos or interviews about her on YouTube. Thank you! Adib Kamaruddin ( talk) 18:53, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
I think the UK and US prescripts should only be used in pairs. In the case of Guy Fieri, we can't know the UK pronunciation of his name, and his nationality already implies that the pronunciation is for US English anyway. -- maczkopeti ( talk) 13:22, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
My bad, for some reason it didn't cross my mind to use my own sandbox to do the exact same thing. No wonder it hadn't been edited since 2013. 9 3 ( talk) 23:39, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
So /g/ is marked as a misspelling. The problem with misspellings in hatnotes is that they show up in the Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings list, demanding the attention of the spelling patrol to fix them. Misspellings simply should not be in hatnotes. So my question is, what is the single Unicode character /g/ a valid spelling for? We should redirect that character to its valid use. wbm1058 ( talk) 02:21, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi there. I'm just wondering why you added a "stress?" tag behind the IPA for the Cetiosauriscus article. I'd like to figure out how to fix and remove it but I'm not quite sure what it is indicating. Thanks -- IJReid {{ T - C - D - R}} 02:28, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Nardog,
Yes, I believe that was the consensus. Since per Ladefoged English does not have post-tonic stress, it would be factually incorrect for us to do so. The OED, btw, does not add such faux stress to words, even 'motorcycle'. Other dictionaries use the bottom stroke to mark unreduced vowels, but that's not the IPA definition of that IPA symbol, and since we have dedicated symbols for reduced vowels, we don't need to fake it.
It's not our definition either. I'd really prefer not to expand the English IPA table to explain that if the bottom stroke comes before the top stroke, it indicates stress, but that if it comes after it does not, and is completely meaningless.
Another one of our consensuses was that stressed syllables should be marked, e.g. that we should not follow the confusing practice of some dictionaries in marking a single syllable with a stress mark to indicate that it's really two syllables. After all, there are lexically unstressed words in English, even if they're not likely to be used as the title of a WP page.
— kwami ( talk) 05:52, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, that was years ago, when we worked out the pan-dialectal IPA-en key and the months during which we implemented it across WP. The reason we have the current semi-phonemic transcription of rhotic vowels is that RP speakers wouldn't stand for a phonemic transcription, and we compromised. They're in the archives somewhere.
The problem with following dictionaries on stress, beside deciding which one to elevate over the others, is that their conventions were formed by impressionistic transcriptions in the late 19th to mid 20th century. Research has since shown that they are not accurate lexical-phonemic descriptions, mixing up as they do prosodic stress, lexical stress and vowel reduction. What we currently have is fairly straightforward, if not exactly phonemic -- the final stressed syllable takes the 1ary mark, while all preceding stressed syllables take the 2ary mark. Last I heard, no language was known to have phonemic 2ary lexical stress, though there were arguments about the quality of data and analysis for some other Germanic languages that were commonly transcribed with 2ary stress.
The OED is the greatest dictionary ever written, so I don't think we should have difficulty justifying following them and phonetic research in not transcribing all non-reduced vowels as having imaginary 2ary stress. But, if we do decide to do that, and wish to be responsible to our readers, we'll need to explain that a 2ary stress mark before a 1ary stress mark indicates (primary) stress, but that a 2ary stress mark after a 1ary stress mark indicates no stress. Which I foresee generating a lot more arguments than just following the OED and Ladefoged.
(Phonemically, of course, per Ladefoged we should only use the 1ary stress mark, but the current convention does little harm. Though, with only one stress mark, we might not rehash this argument every couple years.)
As for marking stress on monosyllables, we've been over that many times too. The OED, for example, uses a stress mark to distinguish disyllables from monosyllables, which is not how the IPA defines it. That's why we clarify usage of the syllable break in the IPA key. And in several of our articles, we do transcribe unstressed words, and if we didn't mark stressed monosyllables, we'd have no way of indicating they were unstressed. Basically, though, if we're going to have a phonemic transcription between virgules, then ideally the transcription should be phonemic -- which means indicating stress when there is stress. Again, if we decide not to do that, we should change the description in the IPA key to note that the stress mark only indicates stress in polysyllables, while stressed monosyllables are not distinguished from unstressed.
— kwami ( talk) 23:30, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your note about conflict of interest. I do not have an interest in the subject I've written about. is there material you have read that would indicate that I have a bias one way or the other? Unbreakable9 ( talk) 18:21, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
please delete these image from wikicommons — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unbreakable9 ( talk • contribs) 21:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Nardog. Beth Levin's last name is pronounced with /iː/ rather than /ɪ/ in the second syllable. I'd included the IPA because this is a bit unexpected based on the spelling of her surname. LingLass ( talk) 00:15, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Have I understood you correctly? You'd be in favor of deleting that article? Because I think I would too. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) ( talk) 09:48, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Examining the original you specified, I find it neither a copyvio or a close paraphrase. If I am in error, please let me know. DGG ( talk ) 23:41, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi Nardog
I have closed the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Piotrus/South Korean scandals (2nd nomination), and also rev-deleted some edits from Political scandals in South Korea and Talk:Political scandals in South Korea that contained merged material from the deleted page. Do you want to have a look at those to just make sure I did the right ones? Thanks — Amakuru ( talk) 21:31, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Tanks! Dere aren't a lot of "acceptable" references to it, not dat I could find anyway! Awien ( talk) 13:48, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Lutz Ebersdorf. Since you had some involvement with the Lutz Ebersdorf redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Iffy★ Chat -- 14:42, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
after my botched move. I had intended to split them because, they are, both essentially and legally, different entities. Hayholt ( talk) 12:47, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for this N. I couldn't tell how far back the nonsense went so I appreciate your fixing things. The page sure seems to have had a lot of vandalism over time. I've added it to my watchlist to try and help. It might be a candidate for WP:RFPP if this keeps up. Cheers. MarnetteD| Talk 14:49, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
I don't know a thing about your language expertise but I am glad that people bring their skills to Wikipedia. Thanks from someone who's opinion is really my own. Why did I just read your talk page? Must have too much time to waste. Eschoryii ( talk) 02:37, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
If it is a quote, where are the quotation marks? Esszet ( talk) 15:45, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
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At any rate, it's not really my purview to decide how block quotations should look like. I sort of agree that their being quotations is not all that intuitive, but that's a conversation that belongs to some place like WT:MOS. (The difference is more apparent on mobile, by the way.) Nardog ( talk) 16:29, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello Nardog. I've seen that you've edited Help:IPA/Italian in the past, so I thought you could help me to understand a thing. Note 5 says: "the n in /nɡ/~/nk/ is a velar [ŋ], and the one in /nf/~/nv/ is the labiodental [ɱ]". I was wondering why in the symbol list does appear ŋ but ɱ doesn't, but I've read in the same note: "but for simplicity, ⟨m⟩ is used here". Why such a distinguo is made here? In Italian a nasal always assimilates to the following consonant, so ŋ can be found just before k and g while ɱ can be found just before f and v. If it's for simplicity, then also ŋ should be transcribed as n (since, unlike in other languages, in Italian this sound can't be found elsewhere). But this makes the transcription less accurate. Then, why doesn't ɱ have its own place in the list? It's weird to me such a different treatment... Could you enlighten me about this issue, please? Fotrion ( talk) 09:32, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Are you aware that with
this revert action on
User talk:John of Reading you've removed not only a misplaced entry by user Seahawks1819, but also the John's answer to a previous entry by User:Foniasin, as well as a header added to the question? --
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Pls answer here, I'm watching.
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Hi Nardog. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:
If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! 5 albert square ( talk) 14:33, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Nardog,
I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Compulsion (2016 film) should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Compulsion (2016 film) .
If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.
Thanks,
scope_creep Talk 19:05, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Not sure why you deleted my comments at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters. Was there a particular reason? Kaldari ( talk) 19:18, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hi I live in Rainworth and I was going to add a sound to show how the village name is pronounced however it's locked. Could you contact me at (awindup) at hotmail.com to get an authentic pronunciation? Yours Paul Pengelly Fyi if you prefer to do it yourself that's fine just trying to help. Awindup ( talk) 12:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
A move request regarding Deadline.com / Deadline Hollywood, an article you have edited, is taking place at Talk:Deadline Hollywood#Requested move 11 March 2018. It is scheduled to end in seven days.-- Tenebrae ( talk) 19:20, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello,
There will be some changes to the way wikitext is parsed during the next few weeks. It will affect all namespaces. You can see a list of pages that may display incorrectly at Special:LintErrors. Since most of the easy problems have already been solved at the English Wikipedia, I am specifically contacting tech-savvy editors such as yourself with this one-time message, in the hope that you will be able to investigate the remaining high-priority pages during the next month.
There are approximately 10,000 articles (and many more non-article pages) with high-priority errors. The most important ones are the articles with misnested tags and table problems. Some of these involve templates, such as infoboxes, or the way the template is used in the article. In some cases, the "error" is a minor, unimportant difference in the visual appearance. In other cases, the results are undesirable. You can see a before-and-after comparison of any article by adding ?action=parsermigration-edit to the end of a link, like this: /info/en/?search=Arthur_Foss?action=parsermigration-edit (which shows a difference in how {{ infobox ship}} is parsed).
If you are interested in helping with this project, please see Wikipedia:Linter. There are also some basic instructions (and links to even more information) at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2018-April/001836.html You can also leave a note at WT:Linter if you have questions.
Thank you for all the good things you do for the English Wikipedia. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 21:18, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
I was very disappointed by your deletion of the list of YouTube links to "Notable speakers of RP". I have had quite a lot of positive feedback about them from readers. I proposed adding the links on the Talk page some time ago, and asked for comments, but I got nothing from you (or anyone else). I have to say that if I had been going to delete a piece of your work, I would have notified you beforehand. I have now moved the links to my own website, with a link to that. I sincerely hope you will not now go on to delete the specimen of RP that I contributed some time ago. RoachPeter ( talk) 14:19, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
I have to say that if I had been going to delete a piece of your work, I would have notified you beforehand.Edits on Wikipedia do not need prior discussion so long as they are supported by valid reason – see Wikipedia:Be bold. While I admire your work as a phonetician and I have no reason to doubt your intention to improve Wikipedia, I can't imagine any experienced editor approving of your edit in question in light of WP:LINKFARM, WP:External links, etc. Nardog ( talk) 00:04, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Some external links are welcome ... but it is not Wikipedia's purpose to include a lengthy or comprehensive list of external links related to each topic;
With rare exceptions, external links should not be used in the body of an article; and
External links to websites that display copyrighted works are acceptable as long as the website is manifestly run, maintained or owned by the copyright owner. Also note that it says
The burden of providing this justification is on the person who wants to include an external link. I strongly recommend you take a thorough look at the guideline, along with some of the policies and guidelines it links to, particularly Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not.
Hi. Was ⟨ω⟩ ever an official symbol, or was it just an invention of Wells? If it's the former, maybe it'd be good to use the symbol on near-close back unrounded vowel. Mr KEBAB ( talk) 10:24, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Nardog. This outburst reminded me that you still haven't addressed the last comment I made at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan/Archive/January 2018# How hair-splitting should an IPA pronunciation guide be?—in particular, where I pointed out that Help:IPA/Japanese tells us that [ɯ] is pronounced at the as the [uː] in "food" (the whole dispute at ukiyo-e was over the use of [u] vs [ɯ]). That really can't go unadressed. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:31, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
giving readers a simple IPA pronunciation guide with links to the nitty-gritty details for those interested in themis what we already do. (I assume your argument is that the IPA pronunciation guides are already too nitty-gritty and should be simpler?) In any case, if you believe we should do things differently, I'd appreciate if you posted that at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Pronunciation or wherever appropriate rather than here. Nardog ( talk) 11:30, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
About your question: why not ask User:Bishonen if this is still an issue for you. To me, the block length appears normal for the incivility regardless of the details. See this comment by Mr KEBAB which I assume is typical. At least, Jakeroberts93 said Mr K leaves 'very demeaning messages' in a comment just above yours at AN3. I did not check all of Mr KEBAB's past comments, but let me know if you disagree. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 03:03, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Where can I find detailed explanations about #if #switch #invoke? Harsh Rathod Poke me! 15:33, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I asked you because you are a template editor and I thought you would reply fast. But no problem, thanks for the advice. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 04:00, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
Can you help me to write the IPA for Yuna in Yuna page? You can hear the word 'Yuna' from any videos or interviews about her on YouTube. Thank you! Adib Kamaruddin ( talk) 18:53, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
I think the UK and US prescripts should only be used in pairs. In the case of Guy Fieri, we can't know the UK pronunciation of his name, and his nationality already implies that the pronunciation is for US English anyway. -- maczkopeti ( talk) 13:22, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
My bad, for some reason it didn't cross my mind to use my own sandbox to do the exact same thing. No wonder it hadn't been edited since 2013. 9 3 ( talk) 23:39, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
So /g/ is marked as a misspelling. The problem with misspellings in hatnotes is that they show up in the Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings list, demanding the attention of the spelling patrol to fix them. Misspellings simply should not be in hatnotes. So my question is, what is the single Unicode character /g/ a valid spelling for? We should redirect that character to its valid use. wbm1058 ( talk) 02:21, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi there. I'm just wondering why you added a "stress?" tag behind the IPA for the Cetiosauriscus article. I'd like to figure out how to fix and remove it but I'm not quite sure what it is indicating. Thanks -- IJReid {{ T - C - D - R}} 02:28, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Nardog,
Yes, I believe that was the consensus. Since per Ladefoged English does not have post-tonic stress, it would be factually incorrect for us to do so. The OED, btw, does not add such faux stress to words, even 'motorcycle'. Other dictionaries use the bottom stroke to mark unreduced vowels, but that's not the IPA definition of that IPA symbol, and since we have dedicated symbols for reduced vowels, we don't need to fake it.
It's not our definition either. I'd really prefer not to expand the English IPA table to explain that if the bottom stroke comes before the top stroke, it indicates stress, but that if it comes after it does not, and is completely meaningless.
Another one of our consensuses was that stressed syllables should be marked, e.g. that we should not follow the confusing practice of some dictionaries in marking a single syllable with a stress mark to indicate that it's really two syllables. After all, there are lexically unstressed words in English, even if they're not likely to be used as the title of a WP page.
— kwami ( talk) 05:52, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, that was years ago, when we worked out the pan-dialectal IPA-en key and the months during which we implemented it across WP. The reason we have the current semi-phonemic transcription of rhotic vowels is that RP speakers wouldn't stand for a phonemic transcription, and we compromised. They're in the archives somewhere.
The problem with following dictionaries on stress, beside deciding which one to elevate over the others, is that their conventions were formed by impressionistic transcriptions in the late 19th to mid 20th century. Research has since shown that they are not accurate lexical-phonemic descriptions, mixing up as they do prosodic stress, lexical stress and vowel reduction. What we currently have is fairly straightforward, if not exactly phonemic -- the final stressed syllable takes the 1ary mark, while all preceding stressed syllables take the 2ary mark. Last I heard, no language was known to have phonemic 2ary lexical stress, though there were arguments about the quality of data and analysis for some other Germanic languages that were commonly transcribed with 2ary stress.
The OED is the greatest dictionary ever written, so I don't think we should have difficulty justifying following them and phonetic research in not transcribing all non-reduced vowels as having imaginary 2ary stress. But, if we do decide to do that, and wish to be responsible to our readers, we'll need to explain that a 2ary stress mark before a 1ary stress mark indicates (primary) stress, but that a 2ary stress mark after a 1ary stress mark indicates no stress. Which I foresee generating a lot more arguments than just following the OED and Ladefoged.
(Phonemically, of course, per Ladefoged we should only use the 1ary stress mark, but the current convention does little harm. Though, with only one stress mark, we might not rehash this argument every couple years.)
As for marking stress on monosyllables, we've been over that many times too. The OED, for example, uses a stress mark to distinguish disyllables from monosyllables, which is not how the IPA defines it. That's why we clarify usage of the syllable break in the IPA key. And in several of our articles, we do transcribe unstressed words, and if we didn't mark stressed monosyllables, we'd have no way of indicating they were unstressed. Basically, though, if we're going to have a phonemic transcription between virgules, then ideally the transcription should be phonemic -- which means indicating stress when there is stress. Again, if we decide not to do that, we should change the description in the IPA key to note that the stress mark only indicates stress in polysyllables, while stressed monosyllables are not distinguished from unstressed.
— kwami ( talk) 23:30, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your note about conflict of interest. I do not have an interest in the subject I've written about. is there material you have read that would indicate that I have a bias one way or the other? Unbreakable9 ( talk) 18:21, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
please delete these image from wikicommons — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unbreakable9 ( talk • contribs) 21:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Nardog. Beth Levin's last name is pronounced with /iː/ rather than /ɪ/ in the second syllable. I'd included the IPA because this is a bit unexpected based on the spelling of her surname. LingLass ( talk) 00:15, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Have I understood you correctly? You'd be in favor of deleting that article? Because I think I would too. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) ( talk) 09:48, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Examining the original you specified, I find it neither a copyvio or a close paraphrase. If I am in error, please let me know. DGG ( talk ) 23:41, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi Nardog
I have closed the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Piotrus/South Korean scandals (2nd nomination), and also rev-deleted some edits from Political scandals in South Korea and Talk:Political scandals in South Korea that contained merged material from the deleted page. Do you want to have a look at those to just make sure I did the right ones? Thanks — Amakuru ( talk) 21:31, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
Tanks! Dere aren't a lot of "acceptable" references to it, not dat I could find anyway! Awien ( talk) 13:48, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Lutz Ebersdorf. Since you had some involvement with the Lutz Ebersdorf redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Iffy★ Chat -- 14:42, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
after my botched move. I had intended to split them because, they are, both essentially and legally, different entities. Hayholt ( talk) 12:47, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for this N. I couldn't tell how far back the nonsense went so I appreciate your fixing things. The page sure seems to have had a lot of vandalism over time. I've added it to my watchlist to try and help. It might be a candidate for WP:RFPP if this keeps up. Cheers. MarnetteD| Talk 14:49, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
I don't know a thing about your language expertise but I am glad that people bring their skills to Wikipedia. Thanks from someone who's opinion is really my own. Why did I just read your talk page? Must have too much time to waste. Eschoryii ( talk) 02:37, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
If it is a quote, where are the quotation marks? Esszet ( talk) 15:45, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
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At any rate, it's not really my purview to decide how block quotations should look like. I sort of agree that their being quotations is not all that intuitive, but that's a conversation that belongs to some place like WT:MOS. (The difference is more apparent on mobile, by the way.) Nardog ( talk) 16:29, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello Nardog. I've seen that you've edited Help:IPA/Italian in the past, so I thought you could help me to understand a thing. Note 5 says: "the n in /nɡ/~/nk/ is a velar [ŋ], and the one in /nf/~/nv/ is the labiodental [ɱ]". I was wondering why in the symbol list does appear ŋ but ɱ doesn't, but I've read in the same note: "but for simplicity, ⟨m⟩ is used here". Why such a distinguo is made here? In Italian a nasal always assimilates to the following consonant, so ŋ can be found just before k and g while ɱ can be found just before f and v. If it's for simplicity, then also ŋ should be transcribed as n (since, unlike in other languages, in Italian this sound can't be found elsewhere). But this makes the transcription less accurate. Then, why doesn't ɱ have its own place in the list? It's weird to me such a different treatment... Could you enlighten me about this issue, please? Fotrion ( talk) 09:32, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Are you aware that with
this revert action on
User talk:John of Reading you've removed not only a misplaced entry by user Seahawks1819, but also the John's answer to a previous entry by User:Foniasin, as well as a header added to the question? --
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Pls answer here, I'm watching.
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Hi Nardog. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:
If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! 5 albert square ( talk) 14:33, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Nardog,
I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Compulsion (2016 film) should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Compulsion (2016 film) .
If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.
Thanks,
scope_creep Talk 19:05, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Not sure why you deleted my comments at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters. Was there a particular reason? Kaldari ( talk) 19:18, 21 December 2018 (UTC)