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Hi. Would it be possible for the links in Legobot's summaries to RfC list pages to link directly to the RfC? For example, at Special:Diff/889021158, the content add had a link to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#rfc_B0E5B8A, but the summary just had a link to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 23:03, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Legoktm (
talk ·
contribs), in its
last RfC run, Legobot has moved the RfC listing to the bottom and blanked it, for a number of RfCs whose discussion pages still have the {{
rfc}}
tag. This seems to be confined to three RfCs being held on two different pages - two examples are for
Talk:Dogsbite.org and for
Wikipedia talk:Templates for discussion. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
10:56, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
According to MOS:ORDER, {{ good article}} and {{ featured article}} templates should be placed in the bottom matter of articles, but Legobot places these templates at the top of articles. Is there a particular reason for this? I looked in the talk page archives and couldn't find any discussion on this question. Lord Bolingbroke ( talk) 23:56, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Legoktm, in case you didn't get the ping: What do you think of modifying Legobot to place GA templates in the bottom matter of articles per MOS:ORDER? Lord Bolingbroke ( talk) 21:13, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Legobot deleted my comment at the GAN page. My comment showed other readers that I was already taking on the second opinion request. Legobot unhelpfully removed this. Axl ¤ [Talk] 10:23, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
{{
GA nominee}}
template on article talk pages, and examine those uses for particular parameters, such as |status=
. Based on the results from that search (and some other information), it builds a fresh copy of
WP:GAN. If you try to edit that page directly, it no longer matches what is indicated on the article talk page, and so the bot rebuilds
WP:GAN based on what is on article talk pages. You can't do it backwards.|status=onreview
on the {{
GA nominee}}
template on the article talk page, a second opinion is not yet occurring. Reports reflect reality: reality is not affected by an amendment to a report. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
11:38, 31 March 2019 (UTC)Thanks.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 15:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
[1]. The bot seems to think that the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Carnatic music dates from 1970, presumably the start of Unix time. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 03:43, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
I couldn't find the cause- it's clear that you blocked the bot because you don't understand how it operates. That is a very bad policy. If I went around blocking people because I didn't understand why they had made their edits - or even worse, blocked somebody else because of a mistake that I had made myself, I'd be hauled up to explain my actions with the possibility of sanctions including desysop. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:49, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
I couldn't find the cause, so I stopped the machine pending diagnosis and repair. If I had known what the fix was, I'd have implemented it.
Hi Legoktm, further to User talk:Legobot/2019#Delistings, March 2019, more of those have happened since then, the most recent being one hour ago. There's a current list at Template talk:Rfc#This is not a real RfC, it is a test. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 10:01, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
@ Legoktm: any idea why Talk:Anti-German sentiment/Archive 2#RfC: Rota is broken? Legbot does: diff - placing it on the bottom and not on top, and without any text. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:21, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
For example, when I placed on hold the review for Taiyō-class escort carrier it created this message for the nominator [3], indicating it had failed, which is not the case. Is it the diacritics that is causing this, as I have seen it with other articles with diacritics? Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 10:00, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
@
Legoktm: I have added the following line to
my talk page: {{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn|target=User talk:MrClog/Archive index|mask=User talk:MrClog/Archive <#>|leading_zeros=0|indexhere=yes}}
and created an
index page with the required text (<!-- Legobot can blank this -->
), but Legobot didn't create an index last time it ran. Anyone know why? Thanks. --
MrClog (
talk)
09:45, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
Here's a (possibly incomplete) list of articles from May where the bot didn't add the GA icon: Electric Telegraph Company, BGR-34, Deadmau5, Taiyō-class escort carrier, Tennessee-class battleship, Mithridates I of Parthia, Afghanistan at the 2016 Summer Olympics, 1920–21 Cardiff City F.C. season, Dad Behavior.
Obviously this can be manually fixed, and the bot also adds the topic to the appropriate subtopic list, but I was wondering why it didn't work in these cases specifically. It's possible Taiyō-class escort carrier (and other articles with special characters?) is related to the diacritics issues ( 1, 2).
All the nominations without the GA icon were removed from the GAN list with the edit summary "Maintenance"; I assume that means the bot did not recognize the GA was closed, and just assumed the GAN was withdrawn without being closed.
More diffs can be seen in the collapsed tables below.
I may have missed some diffs because I noticed the bot can perform silent "maintenance" changes in the same edit as doing annotated changes (example:
Mithridates I of Parthia). In general, I think it would also be better if the bot explicitly mentioned nomination removals in the edit summary as Removed
(or maybe Disappeared
, to be specific about the type of removal). After all, it already mentioned Passed
and Failed
in the edit summaries, so I see no reason to omit the useful information about removals by using the generic and undescriptive edit summary "maintenance".
Retro (
talk |
contribs)
03:09, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
generate
. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
08:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)See diff. Not a really serious problem. HLHJ ( talk) 03:24, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations#Ziyad ibn Abih review. That nomination was not actually a review and I deleted the review page. For some reason, the bot continues to update the Nominations page as if there is ongoing review of the article. Let me know how this can be fixed. — Al Ameer ( talk) 19:19, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
G'day, I just passed the GAN for USS West Virginia (BB-48), but Legobot just posted a fail message to the nom's talk page. Something odd going on, or have I stuffed something up? Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 02:46, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
{{
FailedGA}}
. If you look back through the archives of this page you will find several related threads. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
18:34, 9 July 2019 (UTC)Can anyone watching this page try and figure out why I've stopped receiving RFC notices from this bot? I haven't changed the FRS list, and ClueBot III's archiving is still working fine, so I have no idea why this is happening. Here is a diff from Legobot's last edit to the current version of my talk page. Thanks for any assistance. Iffy★ Chat -- 09:14, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
I suspect this is being caused by phab:T213475. Legoktm ( talk) 05:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi. I posted this above, but got no response, as part of the section on not receiving notices. That issue seems to have been resolved, but I have not yet received a single RfC notice. Did I add myself incorrectly or something? Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 00:55, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Legoktm, could you please add WP:CEN to this? – MJL ‐Talk‐ ☖ 01:53, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
@ Legoktm: On Talk:Until Dawn, the bot forgot to set status=onreview when transcluding the GA review [4]. This lead to Wikipedia:Good article nominations being repeatedly updated with the reviewer's review count rising by one with each edit. I manually added status=onreview now and manually lowered the user's counter. It seems to have stopped now but maybe the bot needs a safeguard to prevent the count being increased for the same review multiple times? Regards So Why 08:23, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Is Legobot working from a too-old list? If so, then new signups will be missing out while people who un-signed-up can't stop getting them. It is a great service, just that I am super busy now. HouseOfChange ( talk) 11:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
@ Legoktm: this still seems to be a problem. is there anything I can do about it? Legobot doesn't seem to be exclusion compliant. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.-- Breawycker ( talk to me!) 17:47, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
The correct closing tag for <blockquote>
is </blockquote>
, not <blockquote/>
. It is not proper to have a <blockquote>
tag without a closing tag. That is why I reverted
your edit of
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies (which you promptly re-reverted) and also why I reverted
your edit of
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/History and geography, which you also promptly re-reverted). You are welcome to use <blockquote>
, but please close it properly. It is also a good idea read the summary of an edit before you revert it. Cheers! —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
07:13, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
{{
rfc}}
tag (exclusive) to the next valid timestamp (inclusive), that is to say, it stops copying at the (UTC) time zone indicator. It copies verbatim, and so cannot make corrections to what was already invalid HTML in the page that it copies from. This is covered by
WP:RFC#Example and
WP:RFCBRIEF. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
12:33, 29 September 2019 (UTC)I wonder if it would be possible to include, in the message that Legobot sends to notify editors that a GA nomination is being reviewed, a link to the review page? It would save quite a few clicks, and to my not-tech-savvy self it seems like a simple thing to do. Vanamonde ( Talk) 23:34, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
If an RfC question is updated on the talk page, will the Legobot update the question on the WP:RfC page as well? — Wei4Green | 唯绿远大 ( talk) 00:18, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
I've been on the list for ages and I still have not yet received one. May His Shadow Fall Upon You Talk 14:29, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
What happened:
Users expect that everything inside <nowiki></nowiki> is static and they can safely put whatever they like there. Bots should preserve this expectation, so Legobot should ignore content inside <nowiki></nowiki>. — UnladenSwallow ( talk) 02:52, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
<nowiki>{{rfc}}</nowiki>
because the bot may consider that it is an actual RfC, and will add an RFC ID or remove the template entirely, as it sees fit. Instead, use one of the template-linking templates such as {{
tlx}}
, as in {{
tlx|rfc|bio}}
which produces {{
rfc|bio}}
.{{
rfc}}
template in <nowiki>...</nowiki>
tags ... since Legobot will ignore these and treat the RfC as if it is still open – and may also corrupt the RfC listing pages.".--
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
10:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC)I just noticed that Yakov Dzhugashvili, which passed GA a few weeks ago, has not had the bot updated the article page. Is there any way to rectify this? Kaiser matias ( talk) 17:25, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
I noticed that something is going wrong with the November 2019 MfD archives Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates/November 2019. There seem to be lots of repeated entries for individual MfD archives? I don't know if this is due to something going wrong with Legobot? thanks. Britishfinance ( talk) 16:38, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
I have been incessantly receiving RfC notices on my talk page after trying everything possible to opt out of it. (I removed my name from the list, set pages to 0, tried negative numbers, it's all broken). So I decided to put the deny bots=legobot tag on my talk page and I still got an RfC. What is wrong? How can I stop this whole thing!! Please see my talk page! Nikolaiho ☎️ 📖 07:14, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
{{
bots|deny=Legobot}}
should work." {{
nobots}}
.
Legoktm (
talk)
01:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Hi. Would it be possible for the links in Legobot's summaries to RfC list pages to link directly to the RfC? For example, at Special:Diff/889021158, the content add had a link to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#rfc_B0E5B8A, but the summary just had a link to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 23:03, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Legoktm (
talk ·
contribs), in its
last RfC run, Legobot has moved the RfC listing to the bottom and blanked it, for a number of RfCs whose discussion pages still have the {{
rfc}}
tag. This seems to be confined to three RfCs being held on two different pages - two examples are for
Talk:Dogsbite.org and for
Wikipedia talk:Templates for discussion. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
10:56, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
According to MOS:ORDER, {{ good article}} and {{ featured article}} templates should be placed in the bottom matter of articles, but Legobot places these templates at the top of articles. Is there a particular reason for this? I looked in the talk page archives and couldn't find any discussion on this question. Lord Bolingbroke ( talk) 23:56, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
Legoktm, in case you didn't get the ping: What do you think of modifying Legobot to place GA templates in the bottom matter of articles per MOS:ORDER? Lord Bolingbroke ( talk) 21:13, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Legobot deleted my comment at the GAN page. My comment showed other readers that I was already taking on the second opinion request. Legobot unhelpfully removed this. Axl ¤ [Talk] 10:23, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
{{
GA nominee}}
template on article talk pages, and examine those uses for particular parameters, such as |status=
. Based on the results from that search (and some other information), it builds a fresh copy of
WP:GAN. If you try to edit that page directly, it no longer matches what is indicated on the article talk page, and so the bot rebuilds
WP:GAN based on what is on article talk pages. You can't do it backwards.|status=onreview
on the {{
GA nominee}}
template on the article talk page, a second opinion is not yet occurring. Reports reflect reality: reality is not affected by an amendment to a report. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
11:38, 31 March 2019 (UTC)Thanks.-- Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 15:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
[1]. The bot seems to think that the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Carnatic music dates from 1970, presumably the start of Unix time. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 03:43, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
I couldn't find the cause- it's clear that you blocked the bot because you don't understand how it operates. That is a very bad policy. If I went around blocking people because I didn't understand why they had made their edits - or even worse, blocked somebody else because of a mistake that I had made myself, I'd be hauled up to explain my actions with the possibility of sanctions including desysop. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 20:49, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
I couldn't find the cause, so I stopped the machine pending diagnosis and repair. If I had known what the fix was, I'd have implemented it.
Hi Legoktm, further to User talk:Legobot/2019#Delistings, March 2019, more of those have happened since then, the most recent being one hour ago. There's a current list at Template talk:Rfc#This is not a real RfC, it is a test. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 10:01, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
@ Legoktm: any idea why Talk:Anti-German sentiment/Archive 2#RfC: Rota is broken? Legbot does: diff - placing it on the bottom and not on top, and without any text. Icewhiz ( talk) 13:21, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
For example, when I placed on hold the review for Taiyō-class escort carrier it created this message for the nominator [3], indicating it had failed, which is not the case. Is it the diacritics that is causing this, as I have seen it with other articles with diacritics? Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 10:00, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
@
Legoktm: I have added the following line to
my talk page: {{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn|target=User talk:MrClog/Archive index|mask=User talk:MrClog/Archive <#>|leading_zeros=0|indexhere=yes}}
and created an
index page with the required text (<!-- Legobot can blank this -->
), but Legobot didn't create an index last time it ran. Anyone know why? Thanks. --
MrClog (
talk)
09:45, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
Here's a (possibly incomplete) list of articles from May where the bot didn't add the GA icon: Electric Telegraph Company, BGR-34, Deadmau5, Taiyō-class escort carrier, Tennessee-class battleship, Mithridates I of Parthia, Afghanistan at the 2016 Summer Olympics, 1920–21 Cardiff City F.C. season, Dad Behavior.
Obviously this can be manually fixed, and the bot also adds the topic to the appropriate subtopic list, but I was wondering why it didn't work in these cases specifically. It's possible Taiyō-class escort carrier (and other articles with special characters?) is related to the diacritics issues ( 1, 2).
All the nominations without the GA icon were removed from the GAN list with the edit summary "Maintenance"; I assume that means the bot did not recognize the GA was closed, and just assumed the GAN was withdrawn without being closed.
More diffs can be seen in the collapsed tables below.
Extended tables about the nomination closing
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Here's articles where the bot failed to add the GA icon:
I additionally noticed three edits to the GA nominations page with the edit summary "maintenance" where the bot ended up adding the good article icon:
Meanwhile, here's five recent promotions from the end of May that were properly handled:
|
I may have missed some diffs because I noticed the bot can perform silent "maintenance" changes in the same edit as doing annotated changes (example:
Mithridates I of Parthia). In general, I think it would also be better if the bot explicitly mentioned nomination removals in the edit summary as Removed
(or maybe Disappeared
, to be specific about the type of removal). After all, it already mentioned Passed
and Failed
in the edit summaries, so I see no reason to omit the useful information about removals by using the generic and undescriptive edit summary "maintenance".
Retro (
talk |
contribs)
03:09, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
generate
. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
08:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)See diff. Not a really serious problem. HLHJ ( talk) 03:24, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations#Ziyad ibn Abih review. That nomination was not actually a review and I deleted the review page. For some reason, the bot continues to update the Nominations page as if there is ongoing review of the article. Let me know how this can be fixed. — Al Ameer ( talk) 19:19, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
G'day, I just passed the GAN for USS West Virginia (BB-48), but Legobot just posted a fail message to the nom's talk page. Something odd going on, or have I stuffed something up? Peacemaker67 ( click to talk to me) 02:46, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
{{
FailedGA}}
. If you look back through the archives of this page you will find several related threads. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
18:34, 9 July 2019 (UTC)Can anyone watching this page try and figure out why I've stopped receiving RFC notices from this bot? I haven't changed the FRS list, and ClueBot III's archiving is still working fine, so I have no idea why this is happening. Here is a diff from Legobot's last edit to the current version of my talk page. Thanks for any assistance. Iffy★ Chat -- 09:14, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
I suspect this is being caused by phab:T213475. Legoktm ( talk) 05:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi. I posted this above, but got no response, as part of the section on not receiving notices. That issue seems to have been resolved, but I have not yet received a single RfC notice. Did I add myself incorrectly or something? Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 00:55, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Legoktm, could you please add WP:CEN to this? – MJL ‐Talk‐ ☖ 01:53, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
@ Legoktm: On Talk:Until Dawn, the bot forgot to set status=onreview when transcluding the GA review [4]. This lead to Wikipedia:Good article nominations being repeatedly updated with the reviewer's review count rising by one with each edit. I manually added status=onreview now and manually lowered the user's counter. It seems to have stopped now but maybe the bot needs a safeguard to prevent the count being increased for the same review multiple times? Regards So Why 08:23, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Is Legobot working from a too-old list? If so, then new signups will be missing out while people who un-signed-up can't stop getting them. It is a great service, just that I am super busy now. HouseOfChange ( talk) 11:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
@ Legoktm: this still seems to be a problem. is there anything I can do about it? Legobot doesn't seem to be exclusion compliant. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.-- Breawycker ( talk to me!) 17:47, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
The correct closing tag for <blockquote>
is </blockquote>
, not <blockquote/>
. It is not proper to have a <blockquote>
tag without a closing tag. That is why I reverted
your edit of
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies (which you promptly re-reverted) and also why I reverted
your edit of
Wikipedia:Requests for comment/History and geography, which you also promptly re-reverted). You are welcome to use <blockquote>
, but please close it properly. It is also a good idea read the summary of an edit before you revert it. Cheers! —
Anomalocaris (
talk)
07:13, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
{{
rfc}}
tag (exclusive) to the next valid timestamp (inclusive), that is to say, it stops copying at the (UTC) time zone indicator. It copies verbatim, and so cannot make corrections to what was already invalid HTML in the page that it copies from. This is covered by
WP:RFC#Example and
WP:RFCBRIEF. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
12:33, 29 September 2019 (UTC)I wonder if it would be possible to include, in the message that Legobot sends to notify editors that a GA nomination is being reviewed, a link to the review page? It would save quite a few clicks, and to my not-tech-savvy self it seems like a simple thing to do. Vanamonde ( Talk) 23:34, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
If an RfC question is updated on the talk page, will the Legobot update the question on the WP:RfC page as well? — Wei4Green | 唯绿远大 ( talk) 00:18, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
I've been on the list for ages and I still have not yet received one. May His Shadow Fall Upon You Talk 14:29, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
What happened:
Users expect that everything inside <nowiki></nowiki> is static and they can safely put whatever they like there. Bots should preserve this expectation, so Legobot should ignore content inside <nowiki></nowiki>. — UnladenSwallow ( talk) 02:52, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
<nowiki>{{rfc}}</nowiki>
because the bot may consider that it is an actual RfC, and will add an RFC ID or remove the template entirely, as it sees fit. Instead, use one of the template-linking templates such as {{
tlx}}
, as in {{
tlx|rfc|bio}}
which produces {{
rfc|bio}}
.{{
rfc}}
template in <nowiki>...</nowiki>
tags ... since Legobot will ignore these and treat the RfC as if it is still open – and may also corrupt the RfC listing pages.".--
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
10:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC)I just noticed that Yakov Dzhugashvili, which passed GA a few weeks ago, has not had the bot updated the article page. Is there any way to rectify this? Kaiser matias ( talk) 17:25, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
I noticed that something is going wrong with the November 2019 MfD archives Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates/November 2019. There seem to be lots of repeated entries for individual MfD archives? I don't know if this is due to something going wrong with Legobot? thanks. Britishfinance ( talk) 16:38, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
I have been incessantly receiving RfC notices on my talk page after trying everything possible to opt out of it. (I removed my name from the list, set pages to 0, tried negative numbers, it's all broken). So I decided to put the deny bots=legobot tag on my talk page and I still got an RfC. What is wrong? How can I stop this whole thing!! Please see my talk page! Nikolaiho ☎️ 📖 07:14, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
{{
bots|deny=Legobot}}
should work." {{
nobots}}
.
Legoktm (
talk)
01:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)