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Dear Lar, thanks so much for your support during my recent successful request for adminship. I really appreciate it. Thanks also for your kind comments -- I've got a whole heap of interesting medical pics; the hard part is getting the patients to allow them to be released! Take care and I look forward to working with you as an admin-- Samir धर्म 06:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC) |
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For your continuing supervision of the DYKs, I, Piotrus, hearby award you with The Working Man's Barnstar. Wear it proudly and keep up the good job! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC) |
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WTG, Larry! It wasn't displaying for me either, and I must say it's a beautiful pic Kylu made - thanks so much for gifting it to me! :) Btw, hun, I got your email, but I'm somewhat busy this week, so I've postponed most of my mail and talk page activity until Saturday. I hope to talk to you tomorrow, hun - I really enjoy our conversations. Kisses, Phædriel ♥ tell me - 12:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Nice work on this new article. I went through made made a few grammatical and spelling enhancements (I hope). An excellent DYK candidiate. Mark Vaoverland 18:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Wow, I didn't think my article was going to make it to the Main Page...thanks for the information! - THE GREAT GAVINI { T- C} 19:48, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
We edited at the same time, so although I did remove it, you did first. I just assumed you forgot, as another admin removed my DYK notice when I forgot. I don't see the problem with fixing grammatical errors. Nobody owns the template. — BRIAN 0918 • 2006-06-18 20:01
Please do not unthread conversations. Refactored to your talk page. + + Lar: t/ c 20:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
There used to be a page where I could see all current AfD discussions in a table with percentages etc. It seems to have gone, could you reply to me with a link? -- Matt 23:07, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
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hi lar, just curious: i don't see the virginia gilmore/yul brynner item in the June 15 DYK line-up anymore. is it not going in after all? J. Van Meter 10:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Congrats on Artrain USA - this is a great new article! Johntex\ talk 17:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks so much for the valuable advice, Larry! Unfortunately, I'm kinda short of time this week to study your suggestions deeply, so I'll limit myself to think abou the posible contents of the Newsletter and design the proper templates as soon as I can. I may request your advice and Kingboyk's if I find myself stuck - which is a very likely scenario, I'm afraid... :( Kisses, Larry, l8r! Phædriel ♥ tell me - 18:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
While I was aware vaguely abt Brian's scrutiny and found it to be in the nature of a minor irritant, I find the contents of the link that you provided (Brian picking on your DYK selection) very offensive. Btw, now that we have more admins updating DYK, we shd probly have a rule saying that an updating admin can't select a suggestion from his self-noms - oops, the first pary to be affected wd be moi ;), of my 2 noms, at least one is good. I'm not very tech-savvy and I don't know js & all; also, an admin who updates DYK once in a while may not install the script. For someone like me working on a slow net connection, updating so many talkpages is frustrating. Insisting on everyone following the same process, when it is so long, and more importantly, when DYK template is not refreshed for over 16 hrs., isn't ideal. I felt that you showed minor strains of WP:OWN on the discussion. I do tend to agree with your broad analysis that Brian's critiques are very off-putting to editors and admins alike - his suggestion that the DYK deadline can be extended by a day was also not acceptable. Anyways, let's see how it goes over the next week. Meanwhile, I request you to keep your cool, you are too important for WP to lose head so easily. -- Gurubrahma 21:34, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Hrm, I was expecting something more... like actual content? I have to say, you keep your word, though. :P KillerChihuahua ?!? 09:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
These images should have come from here. I checked image sizes to make sure. I've indicated such on each talk page. Image talk:2006 American Buffalo Proof Obverse.jpg and Image talk:2006 American Buffalo Proof Obverse.jpg. Jo e I 12:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Unless I'm mis-reading it, the new addition to the DYK is factually inaccurate. It says DYK..."that
Ashta Pradhan, a council formed by
Shivaji in 1674 to help him in administration, was one of the first instances of ministerial delegation in
India? " - But,
Akbar had government Ministers way back in 1570, Humayun have what were de facto ministers too, and so did the successive Mughal rulers. Do you mean India, as in "Hindu", in which case you may well be right (I wouldn't really know), but Inidan, as in, "Rulers in India" is not entirely true...
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Irishpunktom\
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13:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
-- BRIAN 0918 00:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi Lar, I know you're a busy admin, but if you have time you might visit this page and check the history. I noticed it popping up on the RC list and the recent activity just looks kind of strange... Doc Tropics 04:27, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Tracking contributions: I have a link in my toolbox that looks like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lar but with your userid instead, whenever I view your page. See my monobook.js. However you can just view your own contributions with the link at the top of the page, and then change it to point to whatever userid you like and hit enter again. I like to view a few contributions to see what sort of user I'm dealing with before I decide how to reply. Anyone can do it... not just admins.
I'm a bit pressed for time, I'll answer the rest later. I do have a few more people I think highly of.. I like how you've binned your list into different categories. I'll give you one to mull over, I think you know her already. (smile) User:Pschemp. She's smart, well versed in policy and process, has been around forever, and brooks no nonsense. If you've been scolded by her, you flubbed up, check your assumptions. Her balls are maybe not QUITE as big as Tony's though... + + Lar: t/ c 16:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.
As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.
Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, — Cel es tianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
re wikipedia talk:Did you know - funny, to me "try and do something" is so perfectly natural, correct, idiomatic, it strikes me as strange when someone replaces it with the more stilted (to me) "try to do something". I'm not offended :) But out of curiosity, are you familiar with "try and...", or does it strike you as totally bizarre and ungrammatical? Stevage 18:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Our trainee does seem to have vanished doesn't he? Too much drinking ;) Anyway, are you ok to take on someone else and then possibly have two ongoing if he Condem returns? Petros471 21:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Nope, I was just sorting out some minor issues with the last update and archiving some of the "archive". It all seemed to be complete before you started your update, so carry on. I protect the image at the very last moment before the template update (unless I forget :-) Which image is it BTW? -- Cactus.man ✍ 13:32, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Having reviewed it, following Dragonfiend's request, I felt that a relist may generate further comments on the specific issue of verifiability, which haven't been specifically address by many of the comments so far. Whether a deletion review would have been a better choice, I'm not sure - with a relist, the editors who originally commented will be notified of new comments (assuming they are watching it), although I guess they could have been manually notified of a review. Also, the deletion review is more related to the process rather than the content (which may result in a relisting anyway). Either way there is no rush, so I'll leave it as a relist for now unless there are any major objections. Cheers TigerShark 18:00, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
As I'm sure you've noticed by now, I didn't re-nominate List of European Union member states, but a second article, List of European Union member states by political system. BTW, if you've got any idea as to what the first article could be renamed to work in tandem with the second one, that would be greatly appreciated... — Nightst a llion (?) 16:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi Lar, you had mentioned wanting articles for DYK. I found this last night and started expanding it. I'm hoping you'd be willing to have a quick look and tell me what more it needs (I have a lot more info, but I work slowly and it would take a lot more time to give this an in-depth treatment). I have some pics (my own work) which I'll add shortly; I just need to review the process and policy for adding images. I know the article could use some clean-up, especially with issues of grammer, spelling, and punctuation but that shouldn't take long. I know you're a busy guy, but if you can let me know how to bring this up to DYK quality I'll do my best. Thanks in advance -- Doc Tropics 17:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I uploaded a pic (Image:Higgins glass A.jpg) for the Higgins glass article, but I have two issues and I'm hoping you can help:
:2) When I tried to add the image to the page it it freaking HUGE! Can it be shrunk to fit somehow? --
Doc Tropics
17:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
First, remember you have 5 days total for a DYK article once it is live in main space.. so work on it in your user space for best results. However this is an expand so the timer's started from when you started expanding. The article looks nominatable to me already, go for it.
Second... if you took the image yourself that's a fine license. I use a dual, GFDL and CC-SA (done with {{self2|GFDL|cc-by-2.5}} ) but that's fine if you do not care about attribution. There are a few stray { and ] though in your description somewhere... HOWEVER you may want to consider uploading images you took yourself that are freely licensed to Commons rather than en so that all wikimedia projects (other languages etc) can use them. Here's an example image which shows commons, and shows how I license and how you can use a nice template to add lots of good info.
Third I see you answered your own question about how to use thumbs.. Look also into the parameter for explicit size... see how I added the 100px tagging in that example? + + Lar: t/ c 19:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I asked Captain Vindaloo to do the honors; that guy really knows how to edit! I uploaded another image (a silly one called "Recycled cat.jpg) and tried to do a better job this time. Since I don't care about attribution I went with the basic licensing. I'm really looking forward to input on Higgins glass; thanks again for your help and support! -- Doc Tropics 20:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, we just made DYK and you can't imagine what a strong positive reinforcement that is, especially for a newbie like me (ok, you probably can imagine...). Of course it wouldn't have been possible without your kind guidance. Thanks! -- Doc Tropics 17:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, I put on my "thick skin" and got a sturdy umbrella, so I'm ready for a deluge of suggestions and changes. Fortunately I don't think of WP articles in a possessive fashion so I'll just be happy to see the article improve. Regarding the image (which inclusion thrilled me) I'm a little dense about some things and learn faster from actual examples. Is it possible you can make the necessary changes and I can learn how by seeing what you did? Or do I need to make the changes because I uploaded it? -- Doc Tropics 17:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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For always cheerfully assisting others and in general being a great guy to have on the Wikipedia! Kylu |
Please review the deletion of Names of European cities in different languages, and the related articles Names of Asian cities in different languages and Names of African cities in different languages. These were discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Names of European cities in different languages, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Names of Asian cities in different languages, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Names of African cities in different languages.
The vote was: Keep: Future Perfect at Sunrise Interlingua Trialsanderrors Atillios Carlossuarez46 (me) Kierant Adam78 Khoikhoi Goldom Pasquale Eivind F Øyangen Fastifex Aguerriero Slowmover Lambiam Irpen Olessi Travelbird Nightstallion Agathoclea Folks at 137 Lethe Qviri Riadlem Peteris Cedrins Reimelt Nick C
Delete: Motor Theoldanarchist Mangojuice Dawson Isotope23 WicketheWok Centrx Angus McLellan Masterhatch Tychocat
That is: 27-10 to keep. While I know that it’s not a strict vote-counting exercise, the usual rule of thumb is not to delete unless there is a strong consensus expressed to do so – i.e., give the benefit of the doubt toward keeping. Here, process was thwarted.
The administrator closing the AfD acted contrary to the consensus expressed at the AfD by making his/her own judgment that the content was not encyclopedic. The whole issue of alternate placenames is very much encyclopedic and has been the subject on ongoing debate among Wikipedians, for example at: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names) and the various disputes about whether to use “Danzig” or “Gdansk” for that city near the Baltic, etc.. Also, similar articles remain extant in several other Interwiki’s (since the article is deleted, the interwiki links are gone too, otherwise I could cite which), so they appear encyclopedic to people who speak other languages. Please restore the articles. Carlossuarez46 18:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there any reason why you uploaded and protected the Spartan Stadium picture under a different filename when you updated DYK yesterday? Just curious. Kimchi.sg 06:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
The June 2006 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. — ERcheck ( talk) @ 11:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Refactored to User talk:Zoney, please don't double post. + + Lar: t/ c 14:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I have apologised for my actions. I had not been aware that Wikipedia:Deletion review should have been my first port of call, even considering deletions "out of process". In my defence, I have not been heavily involved in the deletion process since the days of "Votes for Deletion" and "Votes for Undeletion". In the case of the latter, it would have seemed unnecessary to "vote for undeletion" something which wasn't "voted for deletion". My comments about consensus (even with the "not just going by headcount"), I stick by, and I would have made those in any submission to Deletion Review.
I am aware from the mailing list debates about the concerns over "wheel warring". Far fewer administrators were about when I began here. It is indeed a growing problem (as I understand it, again from the mailing list), and it seems procedures have been updated to attempt to avoid Wheel warring.
Evidently the time has come for me to reread various policies on the subject of deletion, as they are not likely to be at all similar to say, two years ago.
zoney ♣ talk 14:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for selecting my contribution. The Church Hill Tunnel entry would also be a good one because it is all over the news here about digging it up. The article is carefully footnoted, too. Thanks, Mark Vaoverland 18:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't sure how to give you a link so I just dropped it in here. Feel free to delete it as 'clutter'. As you can tell I'm still struggling a bit with how to handle images properly. I'll follow the links you gave me and try to force some new knowledge into my head...first I'll need to find a crowbar... Doc Tropics 18:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Heh. Sorry Lar, didn't mean to get on your nerves, I'm probably just overcompensating :) I think I corrected the image info for the Higgins glass; mostly I just copy-and-pasted from the kitten image. Hopefully that works. -- Doc Tropics 18:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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Thanks for voting! Hello Lar/Archive 9, and thanks for your support in my recent RfA. I'm pleased to announce that it passed with a final tally of (96/0/0). I was overwhelmed by all of the nice comments and votes of confidence from everyone. Thanks again, and see you around! itsJamieOhNo Talk 06:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC) |
I wanted to send you a Thank-You remark for your assistance in the Alvetina Kolchina submission. I look foward to working with you in future endeavours. Chris 12:33, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Refactored to talk page of Chris to keep conversation threads together. + + Lar: t/ c 13:29, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Also listed on talk page. Chris 13:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for selecting it. I apologize for being short with you, but the last four or five DYK nominations I submitted were rejected on sight, and basically for the sole reason of "I didn't like it." I know I don't especially like Russian history articles, but I don't cause ruckus about them having their little spotlight. I'm not going to lecture you on how to do your job, but I'm glad you kept an open mind about this one. :) Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 16:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
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Dear Lar, thanks so much for your support during my recent successful request for adminship. I really appreciate it. Thanks also for your kind comments -- I've got a whole heap of interesting medical pics; the hard part is getting the patients to allow them to be released! Take care and I look forward to working with you as an admin-- Samir धर्म 06:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC) |
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The Working Man's Barnstar | |
For your continuing supervision of the DYKs, I, Piotrus, hearby award you with The Working Man's Barnstar. Wear it proudly and keep up the good job! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC) |
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WTG, Larry! It wasn't displaying for me either, and I must say it's a beautiful pic Kylu made - thanks so much for gifting it to me! :) Btw, hun, I got your email, but I'm somewhat busy this week, so I've postponed most of my mail and talk page activity until Saturday. I hope to talk to you tomorrow, hun - I really enjoy our conversations. Kisses, Phædriel ♥ tell me - 12:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Nice work on this new article. I went through made made a few grammatical and spelling enhancements (I hope). An excellent DYK candidiate. Mark Vaoverland 18:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Wow, I didn't think my article was going to make it to the Main Page...thanks for the information! - THE GREAT GAVINI { T- C} 19:48, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
We edited at the same time, so although I did remove it, you did first. I just assumed you forgot, as another admin removed my DYK notice when I forgot. I don't see the problem with fixing grammatical errors. Nobody owns the template. — BRIAN 0918 • 2006-06-18 20:01
Please do not unthread conversations. Refactored to your talk page. + + Lar: t/ c 20:06, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
There used to be a page where I could see all current AfD discussions in a table with percentages etc. It seems to have gone, could you reply to me with a link? -- Matt 23:07, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
I saw "+idString.substr(pipeLoc+5,idString.length);", yet the character length after the date is always less anyway, than the whole length, so JS can't really give you "idString.length" characters preceding the index number "pipeLoc+5", so it must give what it has. This doesn't really matter then, but in this case, you don't even need a second argument, you just want the rest I believe [1]. Voice-of-All 01:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
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hi lar, just curious: i don't see the virginia gilmore/yul brynner item in the June 15 DYK line-up anymore. is it not going in after all? J. Van Meter 10:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Congrats on Artrain USA - this is a great new article! Johntex\ talk 17:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks so much for the valuable advice, Larry! Unfortunately, I'm kinda short of time this week to study your suggestions deeply, so I'll limit myself to think abou the posible contents of the Newsletter and design the proper templates as soon as I can. I may request your advice and Kingboyk's if I find myself stuck - which is a very likely scenario, I'm afraid... :( Kisses, Larry, l8r! Phædriel ♥ tell me - 18:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
While I was aware vaguely abt Brian's scrutiny and found it to be in the nature of a minor irritant, I find the contents of the link that you provided (Brian picking on your DYK selection) very offensive. Btw, now that we have more admins updating DYK, we shd probly have a rule saying that an updating admin can't select a suggestion from his self-noms - oops, the first pary to be affected wd be moi ;), of my 2 noms, at least one is good. I'm not very tech-savvy and I don't know js & all; also, an admin who updates DYK once in a while may not install the script. For someone like me working on a slow net connection, updating so many talkpages is frustrating. Insisting on everyone following the same process, when it is so long, and more importantly, when DYK template is not refreshed for over 16 hrs., isn't ideal. I felt that you showed minor strains of WP:OWN on the discussion. I do tend to agree with your broad analysis that Brian's critiques are very off-putting to editors and admins alike - his suggestion that the DYK deadline can be extended by a day was also not acceptable. Anyways, let's see how it goes over the next week. Meanwhile, I request you to keep your cool, you are too important for WP to lose head so easily. -- Gurubrahma 21:34, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Hrm, I was expecting something more... like actual content? I have to say, you keep your word, though. :P KillerChihuahua ?!? 09:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
These images should have come from here. I checked image sizes to make sure. I've indicated such on each talk page. Image talk:2006 American Buffalo Proof Obverse.jpg and Image talk:2006 American Buffalo Proof Obverse.jpg. Jo e I 12:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Unless I'm mis-reading it, the new addition to the DYK is factually inaccurate. It says DYK..."that
Ashta Pradhan, a council formed by
Shivaji in 1674 to help him in administration, was one of the first instances of ministerial delegation in
India? " - But,
Akbar had government Ministers way back in 1570, Humayun have what were de facto ministers too, and so did the successive Mughal rulers. Do you mean India, as in "Hindu", in which case you may well be right (I wouldn't really know), but Inidan, as in, "Rulers in India" is not entirely true...
--
Irishpunktom\
talk
13:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
-- BRIAN 0918 00:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi Lar, I know you're a busy admin, but if you have time you might visit this page and check the history. I noticed it popping up on the RC list and the recent activity just looks kind of strange... Doc Tropics 04:27, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Tracking contributions: I have a link in my toolbox that looks like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lar but with your userid instead, whenever I view your page. See my monobook.js. However you can just view your own contributions with the link at the top of the page, and then change it to point to whatever userid you like and hit enter again. I like to view a few contributions to see what sort of user I'm dealing with before I decide how to reply. Anyone can do it... not just admins.
I'm a bit pressed for time, I'll answer the rest later. I do have a few more people I think highly of.. I like how you've binned your list into different categories. I'll give you one to mull over, I think you know her already. (smile) User:Pschemp. She's smart, well versed in policy and process, has been around forever, and brooks no nonsense. If you've been scolded by her, you flubbed up, check your assumptions. Her balls are maybe not QUITE as big as Tony's though... + + Lar: t/ c 16:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.
As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.
Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, — Cel es tianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
re wikipedia talk:Did you know - funny, to me "try and do something" is so perfectly natural, correct, idiomatic, it strikes me as strange when someone replaces it with the more stilted (to me) "try to do something". I'm not offended :) But out of curiosity, are you familiar with "try and...", or does it strike you as totally bizarre and ungrammatical? Stevage 18:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Our trainee does seem to have vanished doesn't he? Too much drinking ;) Anyway, are you ok to take on someone else and then possibly have two ongoing if he Condem returns? Petros471 21:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Nope, I was just sorting out some minor issues with the last update and archiving some of the "archive". It all seemed to be complete before you started your update, so carry on. I protect the image at the very last moment before the template update (unless I forget :-) Which image is it BTW? -- Cactus.man ✍ 13:32, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Having reviewed it, following Dragonfiend's request, I felt that a relist may generate further comments on the specific issue of verifiability, which haven't been specifically address by many of the comments so far. Whether a deletion review would have been a better choice, I'm not sure - with a relist, the editors who originally commented will be notified of new comments (assuming they are watching it), although I guess they could have been manually notified of a review. Also, the deletion review is more related to the process rather than the content (which may result in a relisting anyway). Either way there is no rush, so I'll leave it as a relist for now unless there are any major objections. Cheers TigerShark 18:00, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
As I'm sure you've noticed by now, I didn't re-nominate List of European Union member states, but a second article, List of European Union member states by political system. BTW, if you've got any idea as to what the first article could be renamed to work in tandem with the second one, that would be greatly appreciated... — Nightst a llion (?) 16:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi Lar, you had mentioned wanting articles for DYK. I found this last night and started expanding it. I'm hoping you'd be willing to have a quick look and tell me what more it needs (I have a lot more info, but I work slowly and it would take a lot more time to give this an in-depth treatment). I have some pics (my own work) which I'll add shortly; I just need to review the process and policy for adding images. I know the article could use some clean-up, especially with issues of grammer, spelling, and punctuation but that shouldn't take long. I know you're a busy guy, but if you can let me know how to bring this up to DYK quality I'll do my best. Thanks in advance -- Doc Tropics 17:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I uploaded a pic (Image:Higgins glass A.jpg) for the Higgins glass article, but I have two issues and I'm hoping you can help:
:2) When I tried to add the image to the page it it freaking HUGE! Can it be shrunk to fit somehow? --
Doc Tropics
17:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
First, remember you have 5 days total for a DYK article once it is live in main space.. so work on it in your user space for best results. However this is an expand so the timer's started from when you started expanding. The article looks nominatable to me already, go for it.
Second... if you took the image yourself that's a fine license. I use a dual, GFDL and CC-SA (done with {{self2|GFDL|cc-by-2.5}} ) but that's fine if you do not care about attribution. There are a few stray { and ] though in your description somewhere... HOWEVER you may want to consider uploading images you took yourself that are freely licensed to Commons rather than en so that all wikimedia projects (other languages etc) can use them. Here's an example image which shows commons, and shows how I license and how you can use a nice template to add lots of good info.
Third I see you answered your own question about how to use thumbs.. Look also into the parameter for explicit size... see how I added the 100px tagging in that example? + + Lar: t/ c 19:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I asked Captain Vindaloo to do the honors; that guy really knows how to edit! I uploaded another image (a silly one called "Recycled cat.jpg) and tried to do a better job this time. Since I don't care about attribution I went with the basic licensing. I'm really looking forward to input on Higgins glass; thanks again for your help and support! -- Doc Tropics 20:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, we just made DYK and you can't imagine what a strong positive reinforcement that is, especially for a newbie like me (ok, you probably can imagine...). Of course it wouldn't have been possible without your kind guidance. Thanks! -- Doc Tropics 17:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, I put on my "thick skin" and got a sturdy umbrella, so I'm ready for a deluge of suggestions and changes. Fortunately I don't think of WP articles in a possessive fashion so I'll just be happy to see the article improve. Regarding the image (which inclusion thrilled me) I'm a little dense about some things and learn faster from actual examples. Is it possible you can make the necessary changes and I can learn how by seeing what you did? Or do I need to make the changes because I uploaded it? -- Doc Tropics 17:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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For always cheerfully assisting others and in general being a great guy to have on the Wikipedia! Kylu |
Please review the deletion of Names of European cities in different languages, and the related articles Names of Asian cities in different languages and Names of African cities in different languages. These were discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Names of European cities in different languages, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Names of Asian cities in different languages, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Names of African cities in different languages.
The vote was: Keep: Future Perfect at Sunrise Interlingua Trialsanderrors Atillios Carlossuarez46 (me) Kierant Adam78 Khoikhoi Goldom Pasquale Eivind F Øyangen Fastifex Aguerriero Slowmover Lambiam Irpen Olessi Travelbird Nightstallion Agathoclea Folks at 137 Lethe Qviri Riadlem Peteris Cedrins Reimelt Nick C
Delete: Motor Theoldanarchist Mangojuice Dawson Isotope23 WicketheWok Centrx Angus McLellan Masterhatch Tychocat
That is: 27-10 to keep. While I know that it’s not a strict vote-counting exercise, the usual rule of thumb is not to delete unless there is a strong consensus expressed to do so – i.e., give the benefit of the doubt toward keeping. Here, process was thwarted.
The administrator closing the AfD acted contrary to the consensus expressed at the AfD by making his/her own judgment that the content was not encyclopedic. The whole issue of alternate placenames is very much encyclopedic and has been the subject on ongoing debate among Wikipedians, for example at: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names) and the various disputes about whether to use “Danzig” or “Gdansk” for that city near the Baltic, etc.. Also, similar articles remain extant in several other Interwiki’s (since the article is deleted, the interwiki links are gone too, otherwise I could cite which), so they appear encyclopedic to people who speak other languages. Please restore the articles. Carlossuarez46 18:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there any reason why you uploaded and protected the Spartan Stadium picture under a different filename when you updated DYK yesterday? Just curious. Kimchi.sg 06:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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Refactored to User talk:Zoney, please don't double post. + + Lar: t/ c 14:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I have apologised for my actions. I had not been aware that Wikipedia:Deletion review should have been my first port of call, even considering deletions "out of process". In my defence, I have not been heavily involved in the deletion process since the days of "Votes for Deletion" and "Votes for Undeletion". In the case of the latter, it would have seemed unnecessary to "vote for undeletion" something which wasn't "voted for deletion". My comments about consensus (even with the "not just going by headcount"), I stick by, and I would have made those in any submission to Deletion Review.
I am aware from the mailing list debates about the concerns over "wheel warring". Far fewer administrators were about when I began here. It is indeed a growing problem (as I understand it, again from the mailing list), and it seems procedures have been updated to attempt to avoid Wheel warring.
Evidently the time has come for me to reread various policies on the subject of deletion, as they are not likely to be at all similar to say, two years ago.
zoney ♣ talk 14:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for selecting my contribution. The Church Hill Tunnel entry would also be a good one because it is all over the news here about digging it up. The article is carefully footnoted, too. Thanks, Mark Vaoverland 18:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't sure how to give you a link so I just dropped it in here. Feel free to delete it as 'clutter'. As you can tell I'm still struggling a bit with how to handle images properly. I'll follow the links you gave me and try to force some new knowledge into my head...first I'll need to find a crowbar... Doc Tropics 18:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Heh. Sorry Lar, didn't mean to get on your nerves, I'm probably just overcompensating :) I think I corrected the image info for the Higgins glass; mostly I just copy-and-pasted from the kitten image. Hopefully that works. -- Doc Tropics 18:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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Thanks for voting! Hello Lar/Archive 9, and thanks for your support in my recent RfA. I'm pleased to announce that it passed with a final tally of (96/0/0). I was overwhelmed by all of the nice comments and votes of confidence from everyone. Thanks again, and see you around! itsJamieOhNo Talk 06:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC) |
I wanted to send you a Thank-You remark for your assistance in the Alvetina Kolchina submission. I look foward to working with you in future endeavours. Chris 12:33, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Refactored to talk page of Chris to keep conversation threads together. + + Lar: t/ c 13:29, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Also listed on talk page. Chris 13:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for selecting it. I apologize for being short with you, but the last four or five DYK nominations I submitted were rejected on sight, and basically for the sole reason of "I didn't like it." I know I don't especially like Russian history articles, but I don't cause ruckus about them having their little spotlight. I'm not going to lecture you on how to do your job, but I'm glad you kept an open mind about this one. :) Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 16:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)