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I saw your nomination to merge this article into Jewish views of marriage as well. I disagreed with you in this case on both points. About the merger, and about your objections to wording. The first is a strictly technical matter, but the second surprised me a little. After all, the article is well sourced and all the things you call pejorative are factually correct and neutrally worded, if you think about it, because no value is being given to the statements. Debresser ( talk) 12:54, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I saw a suspect removal of content on Pot calling the kettle black, specifically, removing one of two idioms in Hebrew that are supposed to be equivalent. I was wondering if you would please:
I'm assuming you're a fluent speaker of Hebrew, but I acknowledge I could be totally off on that; even if you are fluent, that doesn't mean you're familiar with modern idioms, so if you know anyone better suited to confirming it please pass along my request. — ShadowRanger ( talk| stalk) 21:54, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Nowhere in the article did I say that Felix Frankfurter was decended from Eve Frank. I said that he parents were decended from FOLLOWERS, and they had a picture of her. Ericl ( talk) 21:22, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the Jewish Barnstar, and for the flattering mention in the Wikipedia Signpost. Happy Chanukah, Yoninah ( talk) 17:24, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, that was very thoughtful of you! Jayjg (talk) 01:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for the very kind words! א פרייליכן און א ליכטיגע חנוכה!! -- Avi ( talk) 01:39, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Dear IZAK, I just wanted to stop by and thank you for your contributions and for very legitimately bringing to peoples attention an editorial bias that is not in line with WP policy. Having articles that present a multi-faceted Jewish issue as if it is a chabad-perspectived monolith does harm.
I would just share a thought that we all catch more flies with honey than vinegar and a calm tone will help us all work together.
Much love, Joe407 ( talk) 05:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you everyone for keeping me posted. Please let me know when further issues like this come to anyone's attention. IZAK ( talk) 12:30, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
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I've nominated List of former Jews, List of former Christians, and List of former Muslims together for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of former Jews. Kitfoxxe ( talk) 17:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Go rant at whoever pushed Beis Yaakov into Jewish seminary. I had to remove links to Beis Yaakov from a lot of articles where they didn't belong. A fine example of POV pushing. And no connection with Chabad. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism#Jewish_seminary. Debresser ( talk) 19:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I fixed it now. What's the big deal? It's a regular disambiguation page, see Jewish seminary. IZAK ( talk) 13:24, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Re: Violates Wikipedia:Listcruft
Could you explain your reasoning above considering that WP:Listcruft is not a policy (and will never be)?
Also, could you please nominate List of Muslim astronomers for deletion because you said that the list of jewish engineers was deleted and so we should delete the lists of former Jews and so on. -- Matt57 ( talk• contribs) 13:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Matt: See User:IZAK/Deleting lists and categories of Jews where I have detailed my reasons for opposing lists and categories of Jews on Wikipedia. I cannot by extension apply the same reasoning to Muslims or any other group. Each ethnicity, nationality and religion and its representative editors must decide what works best for them and what guidelines they should follow within the parameters of Wikipedia's policies. Thanks for contacting me. IZAK ( talk) 13:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
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I have finally posted you on WP:ANI. Debresser ( talk) 11:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. His user page has been blanked (again!), and much of his editing history have been oversighted. He's also been notified of the dangers of what he is doing. I hope it makes an impression. Jayjg (talk) 18:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
A complaint concerning your POV editing, and violations of WP policy has been posted at Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#User:IZAK.27s_POV_editing.2C_violations_of_WP_policy_and_diffs. Thanks, Shlomke ( talk) 06:44, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Lately there's been a lot of edit wars and discussion regarding the Rabbi Elazar Shach page (so much that the page was locked for a month). Have anything to contribute to the discussions on the talk page? Yonoson3 ( talk) 04:38, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Zsero has been involved in some of the recent Lubavitch related discussions there on the Rabbi Elazar Shach talk page. I see that Zsero is also one of the guys involved in the arbitration case ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad_movement/Evidence) - Does that mean that for now Zsero shouldn't have any say on the Lubavitch related discussions on the Rabbi Elazar Shach page? If yes, can we knock him off?
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IZAK, could you come over to the Elazar Shach talk page and make it clear that Debresser has no say on the Elazar Shach page since he's still embroiled in the Chabad controversy ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad_movement/Evidence)? [BTW, sorry I couldn't help you out in the Newman Luke issue; I don't do much editing on Wikipedia so I'm not familiar with that issue at all] Yonoson3 ( talk) 22:42, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 09:43, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
I see you keep tweaking it. Please note that the instructions say " This busy page is not the place to work up drafts.". The Arbs are voting now on whether to accept, and if it is accepted there will be an evidence page for you to add evidence, so I'm asking you (as an ArbCom clerk) to finish what you want to say and wait until it is accepted or rejected. Thank you. Dougweller ( talk) 08:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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We don't normally edit archives, but I took the liberty of fixing a link in a comment of yours here; I hope that's OK with you.
I'd like to clarify that my advice to Debresser at ANI was not intended as expressing either approval or disapproval of your editing. I'd also like to suggest being more considerate when talking about other editors, avoiding for example saying things like "hysteria" [3]. Remember to AGF. I'm also putting a comment on Debresser's talk page. ☺ Coppertwig ( talk) 18:59, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I certainly will. I've been on the road the past week with sporadic internet, but have been trying to keep up with everything. -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 08:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
You said "Chabad hates the Vilna Gaon because he excommunicated them". First of all you must have mistaken Chabad for an individual, because a religious movement can not hate or experience emotions. In addition, did you know the Vilna Gaon was excommunicated himself in response? This was in accordance with the halacha about inappropriate excommunications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debresser ( talk • contribs) [4]
About [5], I think the clerk's recommendation was indeed to remove the whole section including the other parties' comments. Doug was actually saying he might be removing the whole thing himself. If the proposal is withdrawn, I don't really see why your comment on it should continue to be important – it's basically just as off-topic as the proposal was. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:52, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Would you please look at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad movement/Evidence and rewrite/reformat as appropriate your evidence to answer Fritzpoll? Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 15:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
other than "huh?" enjoy Tomer talk 06:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Well, I deleted it. "Frescavenas" sounds kind of like "fresh oats", and "macedocians" looks kind of like a dyslexic version of "macedonians", but that's conjecture, and neither possibility makes the sentence make any more sense than it did before... Gone. Tomer talk 17:57, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
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Not sure what your problem is about this file. Looks like quite a normal commons-hosted, user-created free photograph to me. What warning about "unauthorised" creation do you get? If you mean the pink box saying "This image is on Wikimedia Commons—not on Wikipedia. Any descriptions should be placed there. This page should rarely be used ...", that's just the normal warning that appears when you try to create an image description page on the local wiki when the file itself is on Commons. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:40, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
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That's what comes up, what to make of it? IZAK ( talk) 08:48, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
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I saw Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Newman Luke/Zq. When we were on ArbCon I also made a userpage to gather, sort and edit my replies before posting them on the ArbCom pages. I think that is normal, and within any user's rights. I didn't want to say this on the Mfd discussion, so that nobody should think I am trying to settle old scores with you, which I am obviously not (Torah also forbids it), but I really wanted to advice you to reconsider that Mfd proposal. Debresser ( talk) 10:33, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
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I commend you for trying to solve this issue. I reverted your edits in Yom Kippur, for most of it did not relate to modern Christian observance. I'm not sure about your article yet - it does look a bit like a content fork. StAnselm ( talk) 21:09, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi StAnselm. It is far-fetched to claim that when describing tow different religions that by differentiating between the way they practice and innovate their religions that it's somehow a "content fork" to keep the content separate. Like saying that keeping articles about "apples" out of articles about "oranges" is a "content fork "because" both are fruits and therefore all articles about similra fruits should be kept welded together. Facts, reality, logic and reason are paramount here to avoid a mishmash and hodgepodge. IZAK ( talk) 18:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
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I have opened an AfD for Countenance divine at WP:Articles for deletion/Countenance divine if you are interested. Tb ( talk) 01:26, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
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I may have come off as hard nosed or cranky, but i want to honor and respect your efforts at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of LGBT Jews (3rd nomination). Let me know if my inclusion of your opinion piece was appropriate. if you feel this was unfair or disingenuous for any reason, i will acknowledge that at the afd, but i honestly believe that its appropriate for you to be as forward as possible in stating where you come from. For my part, I will also try to respect your position as potentially valid and instructive, though i have some problems with it, and will be glad to discuss it if you want me to. you have obviously put a lot of thought into it, and have an editing history to support bold ideas. wikipeace? Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 05:09, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Good ol: Kindly refrain from making the correctly-named Category:Jews into your totally arbitrary wishy-washy Category:Jewish people. The term "Jews" is not offensive and Jews ARE Jewish "people" -- what else could "Jews" mean? You are also flouting the correct English proper noun and 100% correct translation for the Hebrew word and proper noun for the word Jews = יְהוּדִים Yehudim (singular: Yehudi) and the Yiddish word for Jews = Yidden יידן (singular: Yid). And I believe that in Arabic Jews are called "Yahud" and no doubt in all languages Jews are called Jews and not Jewish "people" to appease some silly sensitivities of a minority of somewhere who don't like the word "Jew/s" for some irrational reason that defies logic, history, facts, reality, truth and much more. Sure, at times Jews or things connected with them are described in adjectival terms as being "Jewish" meaning "of the Jews" or "about the Jews" or "concerning the Jews" but the main subject is always "Jew/s". The usage of the term or phrase "Jewish" this-and-that is sometimes helpful and sometimes just wasteful circumlocution, but the correct name for the Jews is the Jews! Indeed in the bulk of the sub-categories in Category:Jews the term "Jews" predominates and correctly so. It would also seriously mess up the fact that Category:Jews is the first half of the key parent category Category:Jews and Judaism. This system of categorization has worked excellently since comprehensive categorization was introduced about six years ago on Wikipedia and it makes no sense for you to come along and mess it up because of you don't like it. Please refrain from making such sweeping changes in the future. Thank you most sincerely, IZAK ( talk) 06:33, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
There is now an official WP:DRV at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 May 3#Category:Jewish people. Please centralize comments there. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 08:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay I don't really care about the deletion review—although I appreciate your invitation and it is reasonable to think that I might be interested—nor do I have any other agenda than completing this CfD. The consensus was "rename all... [including] Category:Jews to Category:Jewish people (technically a merge, over a redirect; likely a reverse redirect is in order here)." Consequently, your etymology on my user talk—while nice—was unnecessary. Furthermore, I did not change it because I don't like it (where did you get that idea?), but because of consensus, which you know to be an operating principle on Wikipedia. As I stated before, I have no horse in this race, so if the deletion review goes through, that's great and I would be happy to help you move articles and categories back. Please respond on my talk if you would like to continue this discussion. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 15:38, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Also It appears that you alerted several persons to this deletion and inadvertently wrote out [[Category:Jewish people]] rather than [[:Category:Jewish people]], adding those talk pages to the category. I would like to gently admonish you to be more careful about this in the future if you choose to alert more users. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 15:43, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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Re: your response to what I said at this DRV—I believe you either misinterpreted my meaning or misrepresented it. The editor who closed the DRV essentially adopted the position I was advancing. I have claimed not to have a strong opinion one way or the other on the substantive issue, but that doesn't prevent me from making comments about the issue on substantive issues or procedural issues involved, which is what I did. Despite what you suggested, I am not required to abide by your scheduling preferences for when I make comments about the DRV nomination. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
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You redirected the category Category:Jewish-American military personnel to Category:Jewish American military personnel for only one apparent purpose: to take out the hyphen. This may be news to you, but the hyphen is correct usage for an adjectival pairing modifying another noun. In this case, the category Jewish-American military personnel has the pair 'Jewish-American' modifying 'personnel', requiring the hyphen. In the category Category:Jewish Americans, there is no need for the hyphen. Same with African Americans, and every other such construct, where you can write "I am an African American" or you can write "I am an African-American writer".
Please revert your change to the members of this category, and undo the redirect. Restore it the way it was. Binksternet ( talk) 07:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello Zak, I was reading the ' Isabella I of Castile' page, saw your name in the edit history and couldn't help but notice that there was not one single citation on the page...Not even a 'references/' tag in the markup! -- Nice article but it needs citations, throughout. Regards, GWillHickers ( talk) 19:11, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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IZAK, this is the only warning you will be receiving for making persistent, baseless accusations towards users Mayumashu, Good Olfactory and Cyde. I have observed that you have made several baseless hyperbolic accusations and snide comments throughout the American Jews/Jewish people by fooian descent DRV, and they have continued all the way down to the current American Jews by national origin CFD. I stood by the sidelines far too long and it's time for me to intervene; your behavior is atrocious and is bordering incivility and personal attacks. If you continue with your current behavior, you will find yourself in a temporary blocked for your continue disruptive behavior throughout these venues. — ξ xplicit 23:31, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Dear Explicit: Ever heard of WP:BEBOLD???!!! Sorry that you do not like my writing style. You obviously misunderstand what I try to convey. Even Cyde and Good Olfactory have a good chuckle with me, so your allegations are preposterous. In addition you are definitely not a neutral or an uninvolved party because you have been part of these discussions, as you reveal from how you have evidently been WP:STALKing me and therefore you do NOT fit the role of a neutral observer and you are certainly not the "master" of these discussions by any means. Try making constructive suggestions to the actual discussions focusing on content and facts rather than coming over here to my talk page to threaten me and throw curve balls that will not yield anything positive in the long run for anyone concerned. It seems obvious that the only reason you are "choosing" to "intervene" now is because you are taking sides -- against me -- and you seek cover under false accusations. You would be well advised to let a more neutral and uninvolved admin make the kind of wild accusations you are making against me and please do not comment on situations when you are involved in the discussions and making posts about them. Keep your cool, keep your eye on the ball, and thanks so much. IZAK ( talk) 02:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Hello IZAK. Templates are posted on RfC/Us that fail to meet minimum requirements within 48 hours; this is to prevent users, like yourself, who misuse RfC/U either unintentionally or intentionally. The RfC/U that you filed has been deleted accordingly. In other words, instead of posting nonsense, I suggest you refrain from misusing RfC/U in the future. Thank you. Ncmvocalist ( talk) 08:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Please note that your e-mail to nme, regarding Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mayumashu, was not exactly appropriate. According to WP:CANVASS, "the use of email or other off-wiki communication to notify editors is discouraged unless there is a significant reason for not using talk page notifications". Please also note that some Wikipedians may use separate e-mail accounts for their Wikipedia activities, and keep a less close eye on it than on their user talk page. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
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Hello, IZAK. I need some help with understanding what I have done wrong by adding the section Anthropotheism to Sefer_ha-Temunah. I deleted it, but you could still see it in the history [9] After I added it I got an angry email from a friend, who said that I do not understand that Anthropotheism is used in Christian Kabbalah, but is it? I used this source: [10] Thank you for your time.-- Mbz1 ( talk) 18:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC) Thank you.
Hi Mbz: Thank you for contacting me. This question should be placed on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism for the attention of Judaic editors who may know something about the subject. To my way of thinking there is no such animal as "Christian Kabbalah" because I have never heard of any reliable and notable Torah scholar or source that refers to any Christians as being "Kabbalists" so that just like in pure logical, historical and theological terms there can't really be "Christian Kosher" or "Christian Judaism" there thus cannot be "Christian Kabbalah" and that is why Hebrew Christians or Jews for Jesus are not part of Judaism but they are Christian groups that take on Jewish or Judaism's outward nomenclature. Maybe you could get some help from some of the Chabad editors, such as Users Yehoishophot Oliver ( talk · contribs), Debresser ( talk · contribs): and Shlomke ( talk · contribs) that are evidently rabbis and study Hasidic mysticism to help you out here. IZAK ( talk) 21:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
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Izak, it's late, but some clarification is required. In using the phrase ‘to persist in an untruth’
I by no means meant to call you a liar. If anything my impression has been that you are profoundly sincere in pursuing what you believe is a proper course, as in our preceding encounters. By that term I meant you stuck me as persisting in a position which is demonstrably false, if one steps out of the specific milieu in which that position is widely held to be a truism. People can in all sincerity believe Shakespeare is Edward de Vere: they persist in an untruth, but they are not liars. Their belief system doesn’t allow them to see that their article of faith in no way corresponds to the objective facts consensually ascertained.
When Debresser correctly noted that the first temple is better known in English as 'Solomon's Temple', you replied that nonetheless 'it belongs . . to Judaism’. It was this 'appropriative' sense of the past that worried me, apart from what I take to be the false claim you back by googling. I live among Catholics, and since my wife is very devout, accompanied them to their 'Holy Land' last year, accepted among them though I am known to be completely unreligious. The group leader was extremely devout: they often went to mass twice a day (I sat that part out reading or simply watching the birdlife, insects and plants wavering in the breeze in those cool horti conclusi (pardes) which are one of the joys of the Middle East). The Old Testament is an intimate part of their life, but they had little detailed knowledge of Judaism. The centrepiece of their visit was to Bethlehem, then The Holy Sepulchre, and then the Temple Mount. In the exposition (I remember much of this because I frequently had to correct the guide's explanation) at this last place, reference was made to Solomon's Temple. Throughout today's argument, I have been thinking: 'Izak really and sincerely appears not to know how intensely many of those Christians feel and experience the narratives of the Old Testament, - these people sang their way across the songlines of that desert landscape -recalling Kings, and Isaiah and psalms like Hashem roei lo echsar sung in Italian - and the places where much of its history and story took place. That 'it's ours' doesn't offend me. What it tells me is that you appear in all sincerity not to understand that people outside your own community can experience and feel with great empathy the story of Esther, Moses, Joseph, pray in Jericho, kneel in Jerusalem. These Christians certainly would be surprised, perhaps even offended, if someone told them, on the Temple Mount, as they thought of Solomon, and David, and the destructions, that this is not 'theirs' in the deepest sense of spiritual attachment. I wrote for them, and, I suppose for my own childhood and youth, when the Old Testamental books were thorough parts of a daily curriculum, so thorough I am now a-religious. But everytime I read anything from Chaucer (a Catholic), to Shakespeare (?), Donne (converted Anglican) down to Hemingway, I can feel the resonance of the English bible in phrasing, allusion, and the rhythms of the King James version, and literate people widely share this fact of life. 'First Temple' has no ring to it in English for a non-Jewish native speaker. Solomon as a name is extremely evocative, as you must know. 'Solomon's Temple' is highly evocative, and in the environments I have lived in, from Germany, France, Italy etc and the English speaking world broadly, is the preferred term among Protestants and Catholics, and this fact has absolutely nothing 'appropriative' about it. 'Our'(Christian, post-Christian, Western, atheistical) tradition in large part imbricates over a good part of originative world of early Judaism, and well, I am sorry to see how frequently this fails to come over to many interlocutors, who give some the impression that, in evoking their own intimate memories of instructed faith they are somehow perceived to be treading on ground already occupied by the true owners, and indeed my own scholarly interest in the origins of the world I was raised in, when focusing on this, can be read suspiciously as disguising some furtive ethnic enmity. You don't need to take my word on this, but I owe you a frank explanation to clarify why I would think such a perception unfair, following my father's dictum that one should never retire before settling the day's disagreements in a comradely spirit. Best regards and good night Nishidani ( talk) 19:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello IZAK. Would you please consider re-editing comments you made earlier today in the Temple discussion. As I have already told you, I am not a Christian. My comments in the thread are also not, as you have suggested, motivated by anti-semitism, and I see no evidence that this is the case with anyone else who has participated in the discussion. Neither I nor any other editor has suggested "that Jews and Judaism must be 'monitored' by Christian editors". Please could you re-edit the relevant post accordingly. -- FormerIP ( talk) 10:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
User Nishidani stated that a monitoring role be given to Christian editors and more such things.
Thanks for the compliment regarding Template:Teshuva and Template:Jewish philosophy. I also worked on Template:Kabbalah, to its previous full format, but notice it has recently been collapsed and redesigned. What is your opinion of these last changes? I'm not necessarily fully against the collapsed format, especially if that is wikipedia policy, but have the following concerns:
Alternatively, if you think the non-collapsed format was better in principle, then tell me. I am automatically open to that view - a similar format, for example, to the Chabad template. If one can get away with it, I would actually far prefer it - I mainly go along with collapsing it, as I guess it's unlikely others would leave it like that, in view of likely wikipedia policy. However, I do wonder why the wikipedia community (rightly) leaves the Chabad template uncollapsed!
Whether or not all the entries merit inclusion within the template is a separate issue, but I notice that the Jewish philosophy template has a similar number of direct and contextualising entries. With best wishes April8 ( talk) 17:07, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
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I saw your nomination to merge this article into Jewish views of marriage as well. I disagreed with you in this case on both points. About the merger, and about your objections to wording. The first is a strictly technical matter, but the second surprised me a little. After all, the article is well sourced and all the things you call pejorative are factually correct and neutrally worded, if you think about it, because no value is being given to the statements. Debresser ( talk) 12:54, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I saw a suspect removal of content on Pot calling the kettle black, specifically, removing one of two idioms in Hebrew that are supposed to be equivalent. I was wondering if you would please:
I'm assuming you're a fluent speaker of Hebrew, but I acknowledge I could be totally off on that; even if you are fluent, that doesn't mean you're familiar with modern idioms, so if you know anyone better suited to confirming it please pass along my request. — ShadowRanger ( talk| stalk) 21:54, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Nowhere in the article did I say that Felix Frankfurter was decended from Eve Frank. I said that he parents were decended from FOLLOWERS, and they had a picture of her. Ericl ( talk) 21:22, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the Jewish Barnstar, and for the flattering mention in the Wikipedia Signpost. Happy Chanukah, Yoninah ( talk) 17:24, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, that was very thoughtful of you! Jayjg (talk) 01:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for the very kind words! א פרייליכן און א ליכטיגע חנוכה!! -- Avi ( talk) 01:39, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Dear IZAK, I just wanted to stop by and thank you for your contributions and for very legitimately bringing to peoples attention an editorial bias that is not in line with WP policy. Having articles that present a multi-faceted Jewish issue as if it is a chabad-perspectived monolith does harm.
I would just share a thought that we all catch more flies with honey than vinegar and a calm tone will help us all work together.
Much love, Joe407 ( talk) 05:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you everyone for keeping me posted. Please let me know when further issues like this come to anyone's attention. IZAK ( talk) 12:30, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
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I've nominated List of former Jews, List of former Christians, and List of former Muslims together for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of former Jews. Kitfoxxe ( talk) 17:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Go rant at whoever pushed Beis Yaakov into Jewish seminary. I had to remove links to Beis Yaakov from a lot of articles where they didn't belong. A fine example of POV pushing. And no connection with Chabad. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism#Jewish_seminary. Debresser ( talk) 19:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I fixed it now. What's the big deal? It's a regular disambiguation page, see Jewish seminary. IZAK ( talk) 13:24, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Re: Violates Wikipedia:Listcruft
Could you explain your reasoning above considering that WP:Listcruft is not a policy (and will never be)?
Also, could you please nominate List of Muslim astronomers for deletion because you said that the list of jewish engineers was deleted and so we should delete the lists of former Jews and so on. -- Matt57 ( talk• contribs) 13:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Matt: See User:IZAK/Deleting lists and categories of Jews where I have detailed my reasons for opposing lists and categories of Jews on Wikipedia. I cannot by extension apply the same reasoning to Muslims or any other group. Each ethnicity, nationality and religion and its representative editors must decide what works best for them and what guidelines they should follow within the parameters of Wikipedia's policies. Thanks for contacting me. IZAK ( talk) 13:16, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
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I have finally posted you on WP:ANI. Debresser ( talk) 11:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. His user page has been blanked (again!), and much of his editing history have been oversighted. He's also been notified of the dangers of what he is doing. I hope it makes an impression. Jayjg (talk) 18:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
A complaint concerning your POV editing, and violations of WP policy has been posted at Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#User:IZAK.27s_POV_editing.2C_violations_of_WP_policy_and_diffs. Thanks, Shlomke ( talk) 06:44, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Lately there's been a lot of edit wars and discussion regarding the Rabbi Elazar Shach page (so much that the page was locked for a month). Have anything to contribute to the discussions on the talk page? Yonoson3 ( talk) 04:38, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Zsero has been involved in some of the recent Lubavitch related discussions there on the Rabbi Elazar Shach talk page. I see that Zsero is also one of the guys involved in the arbitration case ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad_movement/Evidence) - Does that mean that for now Zsero shouldn't have any say on the Lubavitch related discussions on the Rabbi Elazar Shach page? If yes, can we knock him off?
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IZAK, could you come over to the Elazar Shach talk page and make it clear that Debresser has no say on the Elazar Shach page since he's still embroiled in the Chabad controversy ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad_movement/Evidence)? [BTW, sorry I couldn't help you out in the Newman Luke issue; I don't do much editing on Wikipedia so I'm not familiar with that issue at all] Yonoson3 ( talk) 22:42, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 09:43, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
I see you keep tweaking it. Please note that the instructions say " This busy page is not the place to work up drafts.". The Arbs are voting now on whether to accept, and if it is accepted there will be an evidence page for you to add evidence, so I'm asking you (as an ArbCom clerk) to finish what you want to say and wait until it is accepted or rejected. Thank you. Dougweller ( talk) 08:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
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We don't normally edit archives, but I took the liberty of fixing a link in a comment of yours here; I hope that's OK with you.
I'd like to clarify that my advice to Debresser at ANI was not intended as expressing either approval or disapproval of your editing. I'd also like to suggest being more considerate when talking about other editors, avoiding for example saying things like "hysteria" [3]. Remember to AGF. I'm also putting a comment on Debresser's talk page. ☺ Coppertwig ( talk) 18:59, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I certainly will. I've been on the road the past week with sporadic internet, but have been trying to keep up with everything. -- nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 08:26, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
You said "Chabad hates the Vilna Gaon because he excommunicated them". First of all you must have mistaken Chabad for an individual, because a religious movement can not hate or experience emotions. In addition, did you know the Vilna Gaon was excommunicated himself in response? This was in accordance with the halacha about inappropriate excommunications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debresser ( talk • contribs) [4]
About [5], I think the clerk's recommendation was indeed to remove the whole section including the other parties' comments. Doug was actually saying he might be removing the whole thing himself. If the proposal is withdrawn, I don't really see why your comment on it should continue to be important – it's basically just as off-topic as the proposal was. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:52, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Would you please look at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Chabad movement/Evidence and rewrite/reformat as appropriate your evidence to answer Fritzpoll? Thanks. Dougweller ( talk) 15:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
other than "huh?" enjoy Tomer talk 06:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Well, I deleted it. "Frescavenas" sounds kind of like "fresh oats", and "macedocians" looks kind of like a dyslexic version of "macedonians", but that's conjecture, and neither possibility makes the sentence make any more sense than it did before... Gone. Tomer talk 17:57, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
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Not sure what your problem is about this file. Looks like quite a normal commons-hosted, user-created free photograph to me. What warning about "unauthorised" creation do you get? If you mean the pink box saying "This image is on Wikimedia Commons—not on Wikipedia. Any descriptions should be placed there. This page should rarely be used ...", that's just the normal warning that appears when you try to create an image description page on the local wiki when the file itself is on Commons. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:40, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
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That's what comes up, what to make of it? IZAK ( talk) 08:48, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
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I saw Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Newman Luke/Zq. When we were on ArbCon I also made a userpage to gather, sort and edit my replies before posting them on the ArbCom pages. I think that is normal, and within any user's rights. I didn't want to say this on the Mfd discussion, so that nobody should think I am trying to settle old scores with you, which I am obviously not (Torah also forbids it), but I really wanted to advice you to reconsider that Mfd proposal. Debresser ( talk) 10:33, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
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I commend you for trying to solve this issue. I reverted your edits in Yom Kippur, for most of it did not relate to modern Christian observance. I'm not sure about your article yet - it does look a bit like a content fork. StAnselm ( talk) 21:09, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi StAnselm. It is far-fetched to claim that when describing tow different religions that by differentiating between the way they practice and innovate their religions that it's somehow a "content fork" to keep the content separate. Like saying that keeping articles about "apples" out of articles about "oranges" is a "content fork "because" both are fruits and therefore all articles about similra fruits should be kept welded together. Facts, reality, logic and reason are paramount here to avoid a mishmash and hodgepodge. IZAK ( talk) 18:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
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I may have come off as hard nosed or cranky, but i want to honor and respect your efforts at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of LGBT Jews (3rd nomination). Let me know if my inclusion of your opinion piece was appropriate. if you feel this was unfair or disingenuous for any reason, i will acknowledge that at the afd, but i honestly believe that its appropriate for you to be as forward as possible in stating where you come from. For my part, I will also try to respect your position as potentially valid and instructive, though i have some problems with it, and will be glad to discuss it if you want me to. you have obviously put a lot of thought into it, and have an editing history to support bold ideas. wikipeace? Mercurywoodrose ( talk) 05:09, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Good ol: Kindly refrain from making the correctly-named Category:Jews into your totally arbitrary wishy-washy Category:Jewish people. The term "Jews" is not offensive and Jews ARE Jewish "people" -- what else could "Jews" mean? You are also flouting the correct English proper noun and 100% correct translation for the Hebrew word and proper noun for the word Jews = יְהוּדִים Yehudim (singular: Yehudi) and the Yiddish word for Jews = Yidden יידן (singular: Yid). And I believe that in Arabic Jews are called "Yahud" and no doubt in all languages Jews are called Jews and not Jewish "people" to appease some silly sensitivities of a minority of somewhere who don't like the word "Jew/s" for some irrational reason that defies logic, history, facts, reality, truth and much more. Sure, at times Jews or things connected with them are described in adjectival terms as being "Jewish" meaning "of the Jews" or "about the Jews" or "concerning the Jews" but the main subject is always "Jew/s". The usage of the term or phrase "Jewish" this-and-that is sometimes helpful and sometimes just wasteful circumlocution, but the correct name for the Jews is the Jews! Indeed in the bulk of the sub-categories in Category:Jews the term "Jews" predominates and correctly so. It would also seriously mess up the fact that Category:Jews is the first half of the key parent category Category:Jews and Judaism. This system of categorization has worked excellently since comprehensive categorization was introduced about six years ago on Wikipedia and it makes no sense for you to come along and mess it up because of you don't like it. Please refrain from making such sweeping changes in the future. Thank you most sincerely, IZAK ( talk) 06:33, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
There is now an official WP:DRV at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 May 3#Category:Jewish people. Please centralize comments there. Thanks, IZAK ( talk) 08:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay I don't really care about the deletion review—although I appreciate your invitation and it is reasonable to think that I might be interested—nor do I have any other agenda than completing this CfD. The consensus was "rename all... [including] Category:Jews to Category:Jewish people (technically a merge, over a redirect; likely a reverse redirect is in order here)." Consequently, your etymology on my user talk—while nice—was unnecessary. Furthermore, I did not change it because I don't like it (where did you get that idea?), but because of consensus, which you know to be an operating principle on Wikipedia. As I stated before, I have no horse in this race, so if the deletion review goes through, that's great and I would be happy to help you move articles and categories back. Please respond on my talk if you would like to continue this discussion. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 15:38, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Also It appears that you alerted several persons to this deletion and inadvertently wrote out [[Category:Jewish people]] rather than [[:Category:Jewish people]], adding those talk pages to the category. I would like to gently admonish you to be more careful about this in the future if you choose to alert more users. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 15:43, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
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Hello Zak, I was reading the ' Isabella I of Castile' page, saw your name in the edit history and couldn't help but notice that there was not one single citation on the page...Not even a 'references/' tag in the markup! -- Nice article but it needs citations, throughout. Regards, GWillHickers ( talk) 19:11, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
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IZAK, this is the only warning you will be receiving for making persistent, baseless accusations towards users Mayumashu, Good Olfactory and Cyde. I have observed that you have made several baseless hyperbolic accusations and snide comments throughout the American Jews/Jewish people by fooian descent DRV, and they have continued all the way down to the current American Jews by national origin CFD. I stood by the sidelines far too long and it's time for me to intervene; your behavior is atrocious and is bordering incivility and personal attacks. If you continue with your current behavior, you will find yourself in a temporary blocked for your continue disruptive behavior throughout these venues. — ξ xplicit 23:31, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Dear Explicit: Ever heard of WP:BEBOLD???!!! Sorry that you do not like my writing style. You obviously misunderstand what I try to convey. Even Cyde and Good Olfactory have a good chuckle with me, so your allegations are preposterous. In addition you are definitely not a neutral or an uninvolved party because you have been part of these discussions, as you reveal from how you have evidently been WP:STALKing me and therefore you do NOT fit the role of a neutral observer and you are certainly not the "master" of these discussions by any means. Try making constructive suggestions to the actual discussions focusing on content and facts rather than coming over here to my talk page to threaten me and throw curve balls that will not yield anything positive in the long run for anyone concerned. It seems obvious that the only reason you are "choosing" to "intervene" now is because you are taking sides -- against me -- and you seek cover under false accusations. You would be well advised to let a more neutral and uninvolved admin make the kind of wild accusations you are making against me and please do not comment on situations when you are involved in the discussions and making posts about them. Keep your cool, keep your eye on the ball, and thanks so much. IZAK ( talk) 02:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
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Hello, IZAK. I need some help with understanding what I have done wrong by adding the section Anthropotheism to Sefer_ha-Temunah. I deleted it, but you could still see it in the history [9] After I added it I got an angry email from a friend, who said that I do not understand that Anthropotheism is used in Christian Kabbalah, but is it? I used this source: [10] Thank you for your time.-- Mbz1 ( talk) 18:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC) Thank you.
Hi Mbz: Thank you for contacting me. This question should be placed on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism for the attention of Judaic editors who may know something about the subject. To my way of thinking there is no such animal as "Christian Kabbalah" because I have never heard of any reliable and notable Torah scholar or source that refers to any Christians as being "Kabbalists" so that just like in pure logical, historical and theological terms there can't really be "Christian Kosher" or "Christian Judaism" there thus cannot be "Christian Kabbalah" and that is why Hebrew Christians or Jews for Jesus are not part of Judaism but they are Christian groups that take on Jewish or Judaism's outward nomenclature. Maybe you could get some help from some of the Chabad editors, such as Users Yehoishophot Oliver ( talk · contribs), Debresser ( talk · contribs): and Shlomke ( talk · contribs) that are evidently rabbis and study Hasidic mysticism to help you out here. IZAK ( talk) 21:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
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Izak, it's late, but some clarification is required. In using the phrase ‘to persist in an untruth’
I by no means meant to call you a liar. If anything my impression has been that you are profoundly sincere in pursuing what you believe is a proper course, as in our preceding encounters. By that term I meant you stuck me as persisting in a position which is demonstrably false, if one steps out of the specific milieu in which that position is widely held to be a truism. People can in all sincerity believe Shakespeare is Edward de Vere: they persist in an untruth, but they are not liars. Their belief system doesn’t allow them to see that their article of faith in no way corresponds to the objective facts consensually ascertained.
When Debresser correctly noted that the first temple is better known in English as 'Solomon's Temple', you replied that nonetheless 'it belongs . . to Judaism’. It was this 'appropriative' sense of the past that worried me, apart from what I take to be the false claim you back by googling. I live among Catholics, and since my wife is very devout, accompanied them to their 'Holy Land' last year, accepted among them though I am known to be completely unreligious. The group leader was extremely devout: they often went to mass twice a day (I sat that part out reading or simply watching the birdlife, insects and plants wavering in the breeze in those cool horti conclusi (pardes) which are one of the joys of the Middle East). The Old Testament is an intimate part of their life, but they had little detailed knowledge of Judaism. The centrepiece of their visit was to Bethlehem, then The Holy Sepulchre, and then the Temple Mount. In the exposition (I remember much of this because I frequently had to correct the guide's explanation) at this last place, reference was made to Solomon's Temple. Throughout today's argument, I have been thinking: 'Izak really and sincerely appears not to know how intensely many of those Christians feel and experience the narratives of the Old Testament, - these people sang their way across the songlines of that desert landscape -recalling Kings, and Isaiah and psalms like Hashem roei lo echsar sung in Italian - and the places where much of its history and story took place. That 'it's ours' doesn't offend me. What it tells me is that you appear in all sincerity not to understand that people outside your own community can experience and feel with great empathy the story of Esther, Moses, Joseph, pray in Jericho, kneel in Jerusalem. These Christians certainly would be surprised, perhaps even offended, if someone told them, on the Temple Mount, as they thought of Solomon, and David, and the destructions, that this is not 'theirs' in the deepest sense of spiritual attachment. I wrote for them, and, I suppose for my own childhood and youth, when the Old Testamental books were thorough parts of a daily curriculum, so thorough I am now a-religious. But everytime I read anything from Chaucer (a Catholic), to Shakespeare (?), Donne (converted Anglican) down to Hemingway, I can feel the resonance of the English bible in phrasing, allusion, and the rhythms of the King James version, and literate people widely share this fact of life. 'First Temple' has no ring to it in English for a non-Jewish native speaker. Solomon as a name is extremely evocative, as you must know. 'Solomon's Temple' is highly evocative, and in the environments I have lived in, from Germany, France, Italy etc and the English speaking world broadly, is the preferred term among Protestants and Catholics, and this fact has absolutely nothing 'appropriative' about it. 'Our'(Christian, post-Christian, Western, atheistical) tradition in large part imbricates over a good part of originative world of early Judaism, and well, I am sorry to see how frequently this fails to come over to many interlocutors, who give some the impression that, in evoking their own intimate memories of instructed faith they are somehow perceived to be treading on ground already occupied by the true owners, and indeed my own scholarly interest in the origins of the world I was raised in, when focusing on this, can be read suspiciously as disguising some furtive ethnic enmity. You don't need to take my word on this, but I owe you a frank explanation to clarify why I would think such a perception unfair, following my father's dictum that one should never retire before settling the day's disagreements in a comradely spirit. Best regards and good night Nishidani ( talk) 19:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello IZAK. Would you please consider re-editing comments you made earlier today in the Temple discussion. As I have already told you, I am not a Christian. My comments in the thread are also not, as you have suggested, motivated by anti-semitism, and I see no evidence that this is the case with anyone else who has participated in the discussion. Neither I nor any other editor has suggested "that Jews and Judaism must be 'monitored' by Christian editors". Please could you re-edit the relevant post accordingly. -- FormerIP ( talk) 10:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
User Nishidani stated that a monitoring role be given to Christian editors and more such things.
Thanks for the compliment regarding Template:Teshuva and Template:Jewish philosophy. I also worked on Template:Kabbalah, to its previous full format, but notice it has recently been collapsed and redesigned. What is your opinion of these last changes? I'm not necessarily fully against the collapsed format, especially if that is wikipedia policy, but have the following concerns:
Alternatively, if you think the non-collapsed format was better in principle, then tell me. I am automatically open to that view - a similar format, for example, to the Chabad template. If one can get away with it, I would actually far prefer it - I mainly go along with collapsing it, as I guess it's unlikely others would leave it like that, in view of likely wikipedia policy. However, I do wonder why the wikipedia community (rightly) leaves the Chabad template uncollapsed!
Whether or not all the entries merit inclusion within the template is a separate issue, but I notice that the Jewish philosophy template has a similar number of direct and contextualising entries. With best wishes April8 ( talk) 17:07, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
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