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Shuttle-Centaur was a version of the Centaur upper stage rocket designed to be carried aloft inside the Space Shuttle. Two variants were developed: Centaur G-Prime and Centaur G. The powerful Centaur upper stage allowed for heavier deep space probes, and for them to reach Jupiter sooner. However, neither variant ever flew on a Shuttle. |
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If clearer evidence emerges later, can a second SPI be open? I feel sure the new editor is TDM. Ktrimi991 ( talk) 23:39, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
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Hello. Can you please also block this blatant sock that restored the edits of a sock you just blocked? [5] [6]. Thanks in advance. 86.120.251.61 ( talk) 21:40, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi GN,
Could you take a look at this [7] account? Looking at its edit history [8], it's an obvious sock and I'm pretty certain that it is the same person as in this SPI case which you dealt with a while ago. The account was created on the same day as that report (also the same day the article Hanbok was protected), and the edit patterns are exactly the same.
Thanks in advance! Esiymbro ( talk) 13:54, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
This is a violation of it as well to my eyes. DuncanHill ( talk) 00:21, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
I know I confused the two -- an indef block & a ban -- but that was because I feel the only solution in this case is a ban. As I said in this thread, for at least 15 years he's been going thru this cycle of being a valuable editor, encountering some incident that upsets him, getting himself banned, then creating another account & coming back to do it all again. (I suspect he's already created another account by now.) That's simply not healthy. Banning him might be the best thing to do for him -- as well for the encyclopedia. I hope, if he returns, people look at this longer history of behavior before acting. That's all I have to say about the matter. -- llywrch ( talk) 18:56, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Oh for goodness sake. Incivility has no place on the project, period, and more admins need to apply that. Roll on the UCOC. It's daft to make this a she said/he said thing - if everyone was a bit more bloody civil this wouldn't have happened, would it? ~ TNT (she/they • talk) 23:06, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
nobody [...] ever gives a damn about the mental health problems he quite deliberately inflicted on others. This is a good point, and something my own 'real life' experiences can attest to; you are always accountable to your actions regardless of your mental state. The editor should be held accountable for the disruption they have caused (and I believe it looks like they have?) ~ TNT (she/they • talk) 23:27, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Oppose for now: The unblock request is still missing the essential parts: understanding what they did wrong and convincing us (well, the reviewing admin) that they'll do better. I see a history of their contributions followed by some combative behavior. I respect their significant past contributions to the project, but I'm definitely a "nobody is above the law" type. Oppose, potentially revisited if they at least meet the minimum requirements for an unblock request. Probably not the response you're looking for, since I was not familiar at the time with all of the drama surrounding Chris.sherlock, but my point is that I didn't exactly invite them back. GeneralNotability ( talk) 01:55, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
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Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi. I hope you, and Oreo the doggo are doing well.
I didnt understand your comment regarding y.
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Hello there, a sock you blocked seems to have returned [12], making the same edits on this article [13]. They've also requested discussion be made on the talk page similarly [14] [15] Magherbin ( talk) 18:10, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, I am here to report an NPA violation, a user posting "Get AIDS and die" in Chinese, here. I would hope it warrants a block. Have a great day.-- N Ø 13:53, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Just for the record I think it was perfectly reasonable to block a user who has a history of incivility that no one has been willing to address because they're so important to the project. JMO, but if it had been someone unimportant with otherwise the exact same history of incivility, no one would have complained about the block and no one would have unblocked. That's pretty much the issue right there. —valereee ( talk) 13:27, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
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19:25, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, GeneralNotability. I'm running an SPI investigation here: [23]. If you please, you may review it (I have evidence). Israell ( talk) 00:10, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I was going through 223.178.74.91's contributions from Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Satish Raman Nair you just closed.. I think 122.173.233.203 is an obvious continuation of the the evasion. It is on the same ISP in India, though different geolocation in India, but geo isn't always reliable inside countries. 122.173.233.203 is picking up on 13 August where 223.178.74.91 left off on 11 August, and is editing the same articles and expanding them ( interaction tool).-- Eostrix ( 🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 06:44, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Please take a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Stubes99, a blatant sock-puppetry case that is open for 10 days. You blocked a previous illegal account and I think you are familiar with this editor now. 86.120.179.32 ( talk) 17:21, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, thanks for dealing with the Putra Yudha Pradana SPI. I noticed that you added a comment possibly linking that to an earlier investigation, and when I went to see that, I noticed there an account which I also nearly included in my Putra Yudha Pradana filing, namely Lukewon. They seem to loiter around the same topic areas as the reported account and their behaviour seems duckish and odd in many ways, but in the end I left them out because I couldn't really find evidence to justify including them. I thought I'd just mention this, in case you feel there's something worth investigating further. Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 15:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
When you reverted Frost & Sullivan you reverted back to the promotional version of the article. The COI section is well-referenced and has been removed several times by single-purpose accounts. You should reinstate the COI section. FrostSullivanCOI ( talk) 07:30, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
בחברת אלקטריאון למשל: נתנו אנליזה ל-25 שקל למניה, המניה עלתה, העלו תוך פחות מרבעון פי ארבע למחיר יעד של 101 שקל למניה, המניה עלתה שו והמחיר יעד קפץ ל-153 שקל למניה, המניה עלתה עוד והמחיר יעד קפץ ל-181 שקל למניה. וכן הלאה.
אם זה באמת נכון, גוף כמו פרוסט וסאליבן לא חושש למוניטין שלו? התשובה היא, שכל כך ברור "שהאנליזות" האלו קנויות, כלומר משולמות על ידי החברה שאף אחד לא חושב להסתכל עליהם בשביל לבדוק את הרמה המקצועית.
בלי התערבות של הרשות זה לא יפסק. להנהלות החברות יש אינטרס להמשיך בזה שכן זה "לוכד ברשת" משקיעים שלא מודעים לנושא התשלום, הבורסה בטח שלא תתערב ופרוסט וסאליבן ימשיכו לתת הערכות שווי המנותקות מהמציאות. הפתרון היחיד יכול להגיע מהרשות - הרשות צריכה להפסיק את הפרויקט הזה ולהגן אחת ולתמיד על המשקיעים מפני הסכנות למשקיעים שהוא טומן בחובו.
Thanks for looking at the rather odd Mamounism SPI case. There's another that's been outstanding for a couple of days - a couple of new accounts for long term sockpuppet politicalguru. One of the socks has just popped up again this evening and started his/her pattern of disruptive edits again. Any chance you could take a look? Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Politialguru Thanks in advance. 10mmsocket ( talk) 20:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
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21:57, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi GeneralNotability, a few weeks ago you protected the page People's Mujahedin of Iran from persistent sock disruption. Now that the protection has expired, the IPs are back. Can we perhaps put a longer protection on the page? or should we be aiming for a 500/30 protection here? Thanks. Stefka Bulgaria ( talk) 07:17, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, GN. I've opened a new SPI case on Nia503, this time as IP 208.83.82.214 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS). Should it be blocked now or should we wait until further disruption? — El Millo ( talk) 00:21, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Apparent block evasion. 2600:387:F:4419:0:0:0:7 ( talk · contribs) restored the same edit BillBoyd2017 was edit warring into Jeff Spangenberg, with the same edit summary, less than 20 minutes after you blocked BillBoyd2017. Meters ( talk) 19:49, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
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If clearer evidence emerges later, can a second SPI be open? I feel sure the new editor is TDM. Ktrimi991 ( talk) 23:39, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
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Hello. Can you please also block this blatant sock that restored the edits of a sock you just blocked? [5] [6]. Thanks in advance. 86.120.251.61 ( talk) 21:40, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi GN,
Could you take a look at this [7] account? Looking at its edit history [8], it's an obvious sock and I'm pretty certain that it is the same person as in this SPI case which you dealt with a while ago. The account was created on the same day as that report (also the same day the article Hanbok was protected), and the edit patterns are exactly the same.
Thanks in advance! Esiymbro ( talk) 13:54, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
This is a violation of it as well to my eyes. DuncanHill ( talk) 00:21, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
I know I confused the two -- an indef block & a ban -- but that was because I feel the only solution in this case is a ban. As I said in this thread, for at least 15 years he's been going thru this cycle of being a valuable editor, encountering some incident that upsets him, getting himself banned, then creating another account & coming back to do it all again. (I suspect he's already created another account by now.) That's simply not healthy. Banning him might be the best thing to do for him -- as well for the encyclopedia. I hope, if he returns, people look at this longer history of behavior before acting. That's all I have to say about the matter. -- llywrch ( talk) 18:56, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Oh for goodness sake. Incivility has no place on the project, period, and more admins need to apply that. Roll on the UCOC. It's daft to make this a she said/he said thing - if everyone was a bit more bloody civil this wouldn't have happened, would it? ~ TNT (she/they • talk) 23:06, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
nobody [...] ever gives a damn about the mental health problems he quite deliberately inflicted on others. This is a good point, and something my own 'real life' experiences can attest to; you are always accountable to your actions regardless of your mental state. The editor should be held accountable for the disruption they have caused (and I believe it looks like they have?) ~ TNT (she/they • talk) 23:27, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Oppose for now: The unblock request is still missing the essential parts: understanding what they did wrong and convincing us (well, the reviewing admin) that they'll do better. I see a history of their contributions followed by some combative behavior. I respect their significant past contributions to the project, but I'm definitely a "nobody is above the law" type. Oppose, potentially revisited if they at least meet the minimum requirements for an unblock request. Probably not the response you're looking for, since I was not familiar at the time with all of the drama surrounding Chris.sherlock, but my point is that I didn't exactly invite them back. GeneralNotability ( talk) 01:55, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
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Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Interested in your comments at User talk:Zhimon. 331dot ( talk) 15:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I hope you, and Oreo the doggo are doing well.
I didnt understand your comment regarding y.
I asked you about it right there in the ANI, but surprisingly, I forgot to sign the comment; thus failing the ping. Would you please explain it? Thanks. —usernamekiran
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Hello there, a sock you blocked seems to have returned [12], making the same edits on this article [13]. They've also requested discussion be made on the talk page similarly [14] [15] Magherbin ( talk) 18:10, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, I am here to report an NPA violation, a user posting "Get AIDS and die" in Chinese, here. I would hope it warrants a block. Have a great day.-- N Ø 13:53, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Just for the record I think it was perfectly reasonable to block a user who has a history of incivility that no one has been willing to address because they're so important to the project. JMO, but if it had been someone unimportant with otherwise the exact same history of incivility, no one would have complained about the block and no one would have unblocked. That's pretty much the issue right there. —valereee ( talk) 13:27, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, GeneralNotability. I'm running an SPI investigation here: [23]. If you please, you may review it (I have evidence). Israell ( talk) 00:10, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi. I was going through 223.178.74.91's contributions from Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Satish Raman Nair you just closed.. I think 122.173.233.203 is an obvious continuation of the the evasion. It is on the same ISP in India, though different geolocation in India, but geo isn't always reliable inside countries. 122.173.233.203 is picking up on 13 August where 223.178.74.91 left off on 11 August, and is editing the same articles and expanding them ( interaction tool).-- Eostrix ( 🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 06:44, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Please take a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Stubes99, a blatant sock-puppetry case that is open for 10 days. You blocked a previous illegal account and I think you are familiar with this editor now. 86.120.179.32 ( talk) 17:21, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, thanks for dealing with the Putra Yudha Pradana SPI. I noticed that you added a comment possibly linking that to an earlier investigation, and when I went to see that, I noticed there an account which I also nearly included in my Putra Yudha Pradana filing, namely Lukewon. They seem to loiter around the same topic areas as the reported account and their behaviour seems duckish and odd in many ways, but in the end I left them out because I couldn't really find evidence to justify including them. I thought I'd just mention this, in case you feel there's something worth investigating further. Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing ( talk) 15:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
When you reverted Frost & Sullivan you reverted back to the promotional version of the article. The COI section is well-referenced and has been removed several times by single-purpose accounts. You should reinstate the COI section. FrostSullivanCOI ( talk) 07:30, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
בחברת אלקטריאון למשל: נתנו אנליזה ל-25 שקל למניה, המניה עלתה, העלו תוך פחות מרבעון פי ארבע למחיר יעד של 101 שקל למניה, המניה עלתה שו והמחיר יעד קפץ ל-153 שקל למניה, המניה עלתה עוד והמחיר יעד קפץ ל-181 שקל למניה. וכן הלאה.
אם זה באמת נכון, גוף כמו פרוסט וסאליבן לא חושש למוניטין שלו? התשובה היא, שכל כך ברור "שהאנליזות" האלו קנויות, כלומר משולמות על ידי החברה שאף אחד לא חושב להסתכל עליהם בשביל לבדוק את הרמה המקצועית.
בלי התערבות של הרשות זה לא יפסק. להנהלות החברות יש אינטרס להמשיך בזה שכן זה "לוכד ברשת" משקיעים שלא מודעים לנושא התשלום, הבורסה בטח שלא תתערב ופרוסט וסאליבן ימשיכו לתת הערכות שווי המנותקות מהמציאות. הפתרון היחיד יכול להגיע מהרשות - הרשות צריכה להפסיק את הפרויקט הזה ולהגן אחת ולתמיד על המשקיעים מפני הסכנות למשקיעים שהוא טומן בחובו.
Thanks for looking at the rather odd Mamounism SPI case. There's another that's been outstanding for a couple of days - a couple of new accounts for long term sockpuppet politicalguru. One of the socks has just popped up again this evening and started his/her pattern of disruptive edits again. Any chance you could take a look? Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Politialguru Thanks in advance. 10mmsocket ( talk) 20:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi GeneralNotability, a few weeks ago you protected the page People's Mujahedin of Iran from persistent sock disruption. Now that the protection has expired, the IPs are back. Can we perhaps put a longer protection on the page? or should we be aiming for a 500/30 protection here? Thanks. Stefka Bulgaria ( talk) 07:17, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, GN. I've opened a new SPI case on Nia503, this time as IP 208.83.82.214 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS). Should it be blocked now or should we wait until further disruption? — El Millo ( talk) 00:21, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
Apparent block evasion. 2600:387:F:4419:0:0:0:7 ( talk · contribs) restored the same edit BillBoyd2017 was edit warring into Jeff Spangenberg, with the same edit summary, less than 20 minutes after you blocked BillBoyd2017. Meters ( talk) 19:49, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
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