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Hi Dennis, Do you remember Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive245#Request_to_lift_restriction? It looks like no one knew about [1] when they arrived at their decision. I was wondering if you can comment here and highlight if this was known? Cheers, IRWolfie- ( talk) 12:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Sorry about that, I was browsing my watchlist on my phone and miss-clicked "rollback" apparently. grr, damn phone! — - dain omite 18:39, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
And now I find that Google Reader is going to be discontinued. What. The. Heck. How could they do that to me? Does anyone have an app they'd recommend as a replacement? Killer Chihuahua 10:48, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
May I register my dismay at your close of the discussion started by Collect at the Binksternet Rfa talk page? Yes, Collect had exploded, but a number of interesting points have been raised by Viriditas, which gives the impression, rightly or wrongly, that you wish to stifle discussion and save Collect from further meltdown. Coming from an admin, this creates a chilling effect, and to me that is inappropriate. An Rfa must be regarded as an area where freedom to speak should take precedence, and your action runs counter to that, in my view. Jus da fax 17:55, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
re:WER ... you're fighting a losing battle. — Ched : ? 06:13, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
While not fully up to speed, I am not convinced that blocking Durneydiaz is the right approach. I posted at ANI, and would like your input, as I propose an unblock, followed by a stern waning, I am willing to write.-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 17:40, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis, you were addressing an ANI regarding Till but it was left unresolved. User:Till has continued to edit despite a note from Status suggesting that Till had decided to leave Wikipedia. Do you have any final thoughts on how it should be closed as Till hadn't responded as to whether your advice would be an agreeable closure of the issue? Thanks, Mkdw talk 23:28, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm not getting anywhere on the talk page - a load of very hostile responses. I've half-typed a few replies but cancelled them as I'm sure someone will shoot them down. I'm feeling very disillusioned about Wikipedia, collegiality, etc and inclined to just abandon stub-sorting or even quit the encyclopedia.
I'm just asking someone to do things one of two ways, which are equally easy for him: the one which saves other editors time, or the way he chooses to do it. He won't explain, won't reply, and everyone else seems to side with him. (And that edit message of his depresses me every time I see it, as just a lousy hostile environment in which to try to communicate - in-joke for the film project it may be, but it's just b...y rude for everyone else.) Pam D 23:30, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response at Sega Genesis. APL ( talk) 03:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
I saw that you re-blocked Belchfire ( talk · contribs) for 3 months after his most recent round of block-evading sockpuppetry. Is there any reason that this editor has not yet been indefinitely blocked? He's been a long-term ideological edit-warrior who racked up 5 blocks for politically motivated edit-warring even before the sockpuppetry kicked in. Now he's repeatedly evading his block. I've seriously considered simply extending the block to indefinite myself - which I think would be more than justified - but I've had enough editorial interaction with Belchfire that I'd rather run it by an outside admin like yourself. At his best, this editor was a highly combative, ideologically driven edit-warrior, and now he's also a block-evading sockpuppeteer. I'm putting in a plea, on behalf of people who might actually have to deal with him editorially in the future, to close the door on an editor who is obviously a poor fit with this site's goals and policies. MastCell Talk 22:28, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm probably going to be scarce for the next few days, again. It was nice to be back for a couple of days, but I have to do some research on UV curing lamps, which means 1600 measurements, done manually, plus tons of other mind numbing tasks, and my regular job, at the same time. Days like that, I'm too tired to be effective by the evening, so its usually best I just go play SimCity 3000 or shoot ghouls in Fallout 3 for an hour and go to bed. I will check in case anything needs follow up that was started earlier. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 01:51, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
It's probably easy to overlook so I wanted to let a message here about it, but I just left a quick question for you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#insults, since you're comment kind of confused me in regards to the edit summary given. Maybe it's just me misreading it or something, so I just wanted to ask. Thanks. - Sudo Ghost 04:50, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
How busy you going to be today (or perhaps tomorrow)? I'd be interested in your input/perspective on something; IP and WER related, but I also know your time here is limited. It's not an "open issue", so if you've got other things to look at, then that's fine too. Cheers. — Ched : ? 11:38, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Dennis Brown,
Thanks for your assistance with User:Deven94 yesterday, it is appreciated that WP admins are able to assist when needed.
As you probably know, I created my account over a year ago at home, although I sometimes (as I am right now) log in at college to browse and sometimes edit - or if needed, revert vandalism by Deven94.
Am I correct in believing that I am free to revert vandalism and/or my own edits without falling foul of 3RR?
Anyway, thanks for reminding Deven94 about conduct on WP. I'll try to keep an eye on him when I can and I'll re-report at ANI if I notice any further unconstructive editing from his account.
By the way, I noticed that he was 'playing about' with my user and talk page yesterday after I notified him of the ANI report, though he doesn't appear to have made any changes is there any way you can prevent him from editing my userspace whilst still allowing other users (and myself) to contribute to my talk page and user page?
Thanks.
Regards, Usual people in life ( talk) 09:57, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Understood, thanks for that.
I read about 3RR some time ago, but I have reason to believe that it's time for me to reread them. Usual people in life ( talk) 12:06, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello there. I have been thinking about trying to improve High Rock Lake to GA status. If you don't mind, would you be willing to join forces and give some helpful tips on how to improve it? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 21:26, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Interesting article in Salon today: Will Wikipedia replace the academic thesis? Posits that that students would be better served writing their own WP content, rather than slaving over papers and dissertations that no one will read. Possibly useful in the WER campaign? Just a thought... DoctorJoeE review transgressions/ talk to me! 13:22, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Hey Dennis, I ran across something strange today, but I don't know the board to post it on, and I don't want to be "that guy." You seem like a nice helpful fellow...could you take a moment to look at Channel 4 programming. I am getting these weird red outlines around any uncited information (it's always followed by a "citation needed" tag. The code is {{cn-span|text=}}so this is what it looks like on the page. Is this something new we're doing that I didn't hear about? I don't actually think it is a bad idea to signal (single?) out uncited info, but this is weird. citation needed Thanks! Ditch ∝ 19:35, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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Dennis, I stopped paying attention to the ANI on Kwamikagami and Lake Michigan-Huron just before you got involved; but I happened to go back to it and noticed someone gave you flak for closing against consensus. I'd just like to tell you that you handled that dispute really well. Since then, the editors involved have worked well together and Lake Michigan–Huron is now a B-class article. RockMagnetist ( talk) 17:58, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Since you blocked Rollo's last sock, User:DreamMcQueen, I thought you'd want to be aware of this current SPI, possibly involving Rollo. I am notifying you as the SPI clerk is asking for admin assistance. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 21:13, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Dennis, I noticed that you're on Wikibreak and I apologize for bothering you, but I have a personal request which you may help me with... I am leaving Wikipedia and would really like my account to be either blocked (permanently - I have no intention returning again for multiple reasons, mostly because of being tired of people greatly abusing WP:SOURCE instead of spending 5 minutes themselves to find and add in all of the necessary references to an article, partially because of personal physical health issue) or fully protected (at least the user page and the "Talk" page). Since I will be leaving, I will not be able to "clean it up" from harassment/vandalism such as this and this or whatever other vandalism there might be, so some kind of permanent block/protection would be really appreciated... I've submitted the request to WP:RFP but I doubt that anything useful will come from it :-/ Rndomuser ( talk) 00:36, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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Having been involved in a recent RFC/U on Niemti regarding his behavior which you probably might not be aware of, I have a question regarding RFC/Us in general if they are closed. While I sincerely apologize for providing inconclusive evidence if I did so in the past or present and note that I have always moved on from previous disputes, I can understand that anyone can find other ways involving a dispute between a user over their conduct is not resolved after an RFC/U closes, but what do you think would be the next step if an RFC/U closes in general? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:02, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis - I had a SPI case, but the SPI board only says Admins can make ones - is this correct? Patriot1010 ( talk) 16:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I noticed you protected the articles which had been disrupted by an IP sock. Could you protect Hunnic Empire which is being disrupted by the same sock? Thanks. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 04:32, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Okay, so you've closed it, and everyone seems happy apart from the fact that I'm still under suspicion of running socks, no retraction of the claim has been made, nor any apology. It may be a satisfactory result for the instigator of all this, but it's not for me. I want this to be fixed one way or another, if that's (a) retracting the statements and apologising or (b) running a checkuser and publishing the results to all concerned, either way I don't mind. But I don't want this matter closed as it stands. Right now the instigator has made unfounded accusation without evidence and left it hanging. The Rambling Man ( talk) 21:24, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Quick question : Did you intend to full-protect this article indefinitely?
Honestly, I don't have any burning desire to edit the article, but it seems like an overkill to me, so I thought I'd bring it up in case it was an accident. APL ( talk) 15:06, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
When you have time/are back, I was wondering if you would consider adopting me. I'm not the typical adoptee, as I have a few months' experience fighting vandalism and performing other maintenance tasks, however I feel I would benefit from reinforcing the policies and dealing with special situations. To be honest, I'm feeling a bit down after my failed RfA and feel a bit more practice and help from an experienced admin like you, who expressed trust in me, would help me get going again. If/when you have the time, please consider adopting me, or let me know if you know anybody else who would be able to help me. Many thanks, Vaca tion 9 13:01, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is " RfC proposal for community sanctions against Niemti". Thank you. I am notifying you per your request above. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 16:52, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you make
personal attacks on other people, as you did at
User talk:Drmies, you may be
burned at the stake without further notice. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. It's hard to imagine a greater insult than wishing an
Old Milwaukee on a fellow editor. Except maybe
Bud Lite.
NE Ent
12:31, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Dennis: Could you please take a look at the recent history of editing on this article, as well as the "Predictions" section on the talk page? Ding me for edit warring if you must, but I'm only trying to keep heavily fringe material out of the article. Thanks. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 14:18, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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You have been given some Easter Eggs. Have a very Happy Easter! Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:41, 1 April 2013 (UTC) |
You voiced a suspicion here. It appears to be confirmed -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 08:42, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
[5] seems likely in poor taste IMO (re: User:R-41) Cheers. Collect ( talk) 01:41, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Wow -- B7 does seem to be a quite good stalker, I guess. Dennis - I avoid B7 like the plague as a rule, and he seems not to follow the same rule. The fact is that R-41 is a staunch socialist who has been literally wiki-hounded a bunch of times now, and I suspect anyone who faced some of the posts he has faced would also quite lose temper - I find R-41 to be sincerely interested in improving articles, and is not one who goes around posting how nasty any editor is. My overlap with B7 is de minimis (12 articles total ever, or under 1/2 of 1% of articles I editted). Thanks for noting the odd post which I found to be beyond the pale. Collect ( talk) 13:02, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Exhaustively overhauled; nothing left on the page except what's sourced to books and other publications where I personally verified and saw context. Took out a few of those, too, where seemingly unimportant or adding nothing to the whole. Won't satisfy everyone, as if anything ever does. Please review and opine on whether this fixes what was complained of. Please also merge in edit history of Talk:Pandeism/Pandeism- as you've been involved enough to see that lion's share of the whole history of my work on this page was done there, and merging in won't confuse overall edit history, but will preserve the record of my work, and make clear what cuts and trims were made, step by step. Thank you. LCS check ( talk) 00:54, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis (or passing lurker with admin bit), I screwed up a page move and wonder if you might consider cleaning up after me? I intended to move A Narrative of the Captivity and Restoration of Mrs. Mary Rowlandson (1682) to A Narrative of the Captivity and Restoration of Mrs. Mary Rowlandson but found it was a redirect page (to the author). Without thinking ahead, I replaced the redirect with the text from the original and then made the original a redirect (to new title) instead. Of course, too late I realised that the page history from the original is now not recorded on the new article. Is there a way to fix? Thanks in advance and sorry for adding to the workload. Keri ( talk) 12:15, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Question - was your !vote on the last section in the WP:AN discussion on Neitmi sanctions an "Oppose" to both an interaction ban and civility parole, or just civility parole? I'm trying to close as accurately as possible.
Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 21:54, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis, I don't know if this is actually something you need to pay attention to, but since you were the blocking admin, and it's been so long that I doubt the talk page is still on your watchlist, I figured I should let you know that he's flirting in his way with the idea of trying to come back. davidiad { t } 22:19, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
you've been mentioned at ANI - see WP:ANI#User:Wondering55. -- Rs chen 7754 09:24, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I see that Orlady has fixed the userpage. And thank you for the clarification. SPI something I know very little about, so I figured a notice would do the trick.
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I'm writing to you in regards to my warnings to Drmies in regards to Binsar Wildlife Sanctuary. The thing is, all of the other sources on the page are a site that look like this (right):
How is that not spam? How is that okay and a non-commercialized website not? Please explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MNdude11 ( talk • contribs) 21:57, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello Denis, I know you are cuurently busy, but could I please ask you to look at the edits to the above article and in particular to Brandywines Talk page? I have tried to help and to be constructive, but appear to be getting abuse. Would be glad of your opinion/action. Many thanks, David, David J Johnson ( talk) 23:35, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Dennis Brown! You're nomination, Anna, for the Editor of The Week has just been awarded. Congratulations! The Wikimon ( talk) 13:01, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. The thread is Unblocking Colton Cosmic. Yunshui 雲 水 18:33, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
I saw what happened in the Khwarazmian dynasty article, but may i ask when it's going to be unprotected again so other people can edit it?-- HistoryofIran ( talk) 12:56, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis. Not sure if we've formally met, but I certainly know your name around town. Nice to finally have this opportunity. I've been looking at your User:Dennis Brown/RfA page and would like to submit my name forward as someone who would like you to review. I have read through you recommendations of criteria an editor should meet prior to requesting and I do fall short of your 200 edits per month in 12 of the 18 previous months. That said, I am hopeful that you still consider my request. I am available for any preliminary questions you would like to ask me before making a decision. If you are busy or would like to decline, I fully understand. Thanks for your time, Mkdw talk 06:24, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
The silk road has many embedded links to the URL in its history. A lot, even spaced so as to not catch the filter. As this one shows. [8] Including other fake and false ones as seen here. [9] It probably isn't recommended, but is it possible to REVDEL them all or the entire thing? ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 02:39, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Are you able to go on IRC for a few minutes for some questions unrelated to Wikipedia? Ryan Vesey 19:04, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks man. That dude is persistent! Drmies ( talk) 17:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC) |
No problem, friend. And thanks for the sparkly, I've not been around to earn many of these lately. Stored safely in the Ronco Barnstar Vault. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 17:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
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For keeping the talk page at Talk:2013 Boston Marathon bombings sensible, and answering questions there of the new users. Thankyou! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry ( Message me) 23:20, 15 April 2013 (UTC) |
Thank you! It is always nice to hear from someone I remember from way in the day and looked up to. I'm quite flattered by your kindness here. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 23:22, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello,
Our company's page, Passat Ltd., has been deleted and we would like to revert this decision, if possible.
I believe that our company is notable. For instance, the laser that we made has been sent to Mars and used to discover water there (Phoenix Martian Mission: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(spacecraft)#Robotic_arm_and_camera). We will also participate in OSIRIS mission: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSIRIS-REx. We are a small company and there might not be enough references about us online but we could provide some offline references as well.
Please let us know what is required in order to get our page reinstated?
Thank you, Vladimir Yavelsky 116D Viceroy Rd. Unit 1-4 Concord, Ontario L4K 2M4, Canada tel: 905-695-1088 fax: 888-635-0657 email: vlad@passatltd.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Passatltd ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
It is now early morning US time and the comment rate seems to be slowing somewhat. I've tried to keep up with the pace by archiving manually through the evening/night (the advantage of being on Australian time). I've tried to keep the page to around 50 threads, max. This has meant archiving a couple of threads that were mostly (but perhaps not entirely) resolved. But the alternate was to accumulate threads (there are 76 between the talk page and Archive 1 and counting) which would have been impossible to navigate, especially for mobile users. I've also closed/archived some threads to which I contributed - your stalkers should feel free to trout away if they are concerned but I saw no other option. Anyway, thought I'd note all that here for transparency/clarity and for the sake of some admin oversight. Stalwart 111 07:42, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis. I've been working on an essay How WP:COI would read if I wrote it. It's intended to stay in user-space permanently, being that we have way too many forks already and I've lost any hope at improving WP:COI, but I figured I needed something more useful to link people to than anything that exists. If you have time, I would love any input you may have. CorporateM ( Talk) 14:32, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for keeping an eye on the Boston Marathon bombings article. It's getting a ton of hits, and I'm glad that diligent editors are there to answer questions and maintain quality. – Quadell ( talk) 17:43, 16 April 2013 (UTC) |
Hi Dennis. I know you said you were busy with work so I hope this doesn't find you at a bad time. :) I wanted to notify you that I continued the discussion on an AN/I that you were involved in. [10] Thanks for your assistance! Justiciero1811 ( talk) 21:12, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
If I'm slow to answer here, it is because I'm trying to patrol the talk page on this article (not editing the actual article, so I can clerk the talk page a bit). If anyone calm, cool and collected would like to help, it would be appreciated. Lots of new users all excited about adding material, and much of that isn't within policy, so it take some patience to explain this to them. If you can calmly do this, please consider helping out there. Thanks in advance. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 01:02, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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If we had a Tireless Contributor Teamwork barnstar, I would award that to you, but I am not that technically inclined, so you'll have to settle for one that doesn't spin. In any case, you have been terrific on Talk:Boston Marathon bombings and I don't know what the rest of us monitoring would do without you. Thank you very much. Go Phightins ! 02:10, 17 April 2013 (UTC) |
Thank you GP, I appreciate the kind words. I appreciate your work there as well. Having calm and sane people just participating and explaining "why" in valid and concise ways really makes it much easier to keep the page flowing constructively, and you're always a great contributor in that. As I explained above, these articles bring us lots of new editors, and how we treat them can make a big difference, particularly when they want to put things in that don't fit with policy. Thanks again :) Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 02:16, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
For all the problems that occur here, at least we're not the Chechen Wikipedia, where every administrator and bureaucrat just had their tools removed. Ryan Vesey 14:54, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
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Lord Sjones23 (
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Hey, Dennis, if you're around, can you look into re-protecting this page for a while? We're getting an IP-hopper inserting utterly unsourced claims about North Korea being behind it (yet disguised with a citation to an article that doesn't even mention North Korea), as well as some other things. Drmies and I both feel too involved at this point (we've been editing the article in an editorial capacity over an issue about one of the victims' name), so if you're still uninvolved yourself, take a look. If not, though, or if you're not around, no biggie: I'll just make a request at RFPP. Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 15:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Regarding the Boston Marathon bombings article, is there a good reason not to include a particularly graphic image. One in particular has been cited numerous times in wp:rs as "iconic", and other sources mention the Associated Press in critical commentary for their editorial decision to publish the image. My76Strat ( talk) 12:02, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Did I really oppose you at RfA? [14] You're obviously much more forgiving than I am. I have a list of all those who opposed me, and I never miss an opportunity to get my own back on every single one of the bastards. Malleus Fatuorum 17:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Heya Dennis, quick question for you. I saw your comment on
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Dzhokar Tsarnaev and I was just wondering how
WP:BLP1E works when BLP1E also says "It is not the case that the event is significant and the individual's role within it is substantial and well-documented – as in the case of
John Hinckley, Jr., who
shot President Ronald Reagan in 1981." It seems like BLP1E could be contraticting itself, or maybe I'm just interpreting this wrong
Anywho, thanks for your help good sir! — -
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Hi Dennis, Do you remember Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive245#Request_to_lift_restriction? It looks like no one knew about [1] when they arrived at their decision. I was wondering if you can comment here and highlight if this was known? Cheers, IRWolfie- ( talk) 12:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Sorry about that, I was browsing my watchlist on my phone and miss-clicked "rollback" apparently. grr, damn phone! — - dain omite 18:39, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
And now I find that Google Reader is going to be discontinued. What. The. Heck. How could they do that to me? Does anyone have an app they'd recommend as a replacement? Killer Chihuahua 10:48, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
May I register my dismay at your close of the discussion started by Collect at the Binksternet Rfa talk page? Yes, Collect had exploded, but a number of interesting points have been raised by Viriditas, which gives the impression, rightly or wrongly, that you wish to stifle discussion and save Collect from further meltdown. Coming from an admin, this creates a chilling effect, and to me that is inappropriate. An Rfa must be regarded as an area where freedom to speak should take precedence, and your action runs counter to that, in my view. Jus da fax 17:55, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
re:WER ... you're fighting a losing battle. — Ched : ? 06:13, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
While not fully up to speed, I am not convinced that blocking Durneydiaz is the right approach. I posted at ANI, and would like your input, as I propose an unblock, followed by a stern waning, I am willing to write.-- SPhilbrick (Talk) 17:40, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis, you were addressing an ANI regarding Till but it was left unresolved. User:Till has continued to edit despite a note from Status suggesting that Till had decided to leave Wikipedia. Do you have any final thoughts on how it should be closed as Till hadn't responded as to whether your advice would be an agreeable closure of the issue? Thanks, Mkdw talk 23:28, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm not getting anywhere on the talk page - a load of very hostile responses. I've half-typed a few replies but cancelled them as I'm sure someone will shoot them down. I'm feeling very disillusioned about Wikipedia, collegiality, etc and inclined to just abandon stub-sorting or even quit the encyclopedia.
I'm just asking someone to do things one of two ways, which are equally easy for him: the one which saves other editors time, or the way he chooses to do it. He won't explain, won't reply, and everyone else seems to side with him. (And that edit message of his depresses me every time I see it, as just a lousy hostile environment in which to try to communicate - in-joke for the film project it may be, but it's just b...y rude for everyone else.) Pam D 23:30, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response at Sega Genesis. APL ( talk) 03:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
I saw that you re-blocked Belchfire ( talk · contribs) for 3 months after his most recent round of block-evading sockpuppetry. Is there any reason that this editor has not yet been indefinitely blocked? He's been a long-term ideological edit-warrior who racked up 5 blocks for politically motivated edit-warring even before the sockpuppetry kicked in. Now he's repeatedly evading his block. I've seriously considered simply extending the block to indefinite myself - which I think would be more than justified - but I've had enough editorial interaction with Belchfire that I'd rather run it by an outside admin like yourself. At his best, this editor was a highly combative, ideologically driven edit-warrior, and now he's also a block-evading sockpuppeteer. I'm putting in a plea, on behalf of people who might actually have to deal with him editorially in the future, to close the door on an editor who is obviously a poor fit with this site's goals and policies. MastCell Talk 22:28, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm probably going to be scarce for the next few days, again. It was nice to be back for a couple of days, but I have to do some research on UV curing lamps, which means 1600 measurements, done manually, plus tons of other mind numbing tasks, and my regular job, at the same time. Days like that, I'm too tired to be effective by the evening, so its usually best I just go play SimCity 3000 or shoot ghouls in Fallout 3 for an hour and go to bed. I will check in case anything needs follow up that was started earlier. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 01:51, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
It's probably easy to overlook so I wanted to let a message here about it, but I just left a quick question for you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#insults, since you're comment kind of confused me in regards to the edit summary given. Maybe it's just me misreading it or something, so I just wanted to ask. Thanks. - Sudo Ghost 04:50, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
How busy you going to be today (or perhaps tomorrow)? I'd be interested in your input/perspective on something; IP and WER related, but I also know your time here is limited. It's not an "open issue", so if you've got other things to look at, then that's fine too. Cheers. — Ched : ? 11:38, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Dennis Brown,
Thanks for your assistance with User:Deven94 yesterday, it is appreciated that WP admins are able to assist when needed.
As you probably know, I created my account over a year ago at home, although I sometimes (as I am right now) log in at college to browse and sometimes edit - or if needed, revert vandalism by Deven94.
Am I correct in believing that I am free to revert vandalism and/or my own edits without falling foul of 3RR?
Anyway, thanks for reminding Deven94 about conduct on WP. I'll try to keep an eye on him when I can and I'll re-report at ANI if I notice any further unconstructive editing from his account.
By the way, I noticed that he was 'playing about' with my user and talk page yesterday after I notified him of the ANI report, though he doesn't appear to have made any changes is there any way you can prevent him from editing my userspace whilst still allowing other users (and myself) to contribute to my talk page and user page?
Thanks.
Regards, Usual people in life ( talk) 09:57, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Understood, thanks for that.
I read about 3RR some time ago, but I have reason to believe that it's time for me to reread them. Usual people in life ( talk) 12:06, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello there. I have been thinking about trying to improve High Rock Lake to GA status. If you don't mind, would you be willing to join forces and give some helpful tips on how to improve it? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 21:26, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
Interesting article in Salon today: Will Wikipedia replace the academic thesis? Posits that that students would be better served writing their own WP content, rather than slaving over papers and dissertations that no one will read. Possibly useful in the WER campaign? Just a thought... DoctorJoeE review transgressions/ talk to me! 13:22, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Hey Dennis, I ran across something strange today, but I don't know the board to post it on, and I don't want to be "that guy." You seem like a nice helpful fellow...could you take a moment to look at Channel 4 programming. I am getting these weird red outlines around any uncited information (it's always followed by a "citation needed" tag. The code is {{cn-span|text=}}so this is what it looks like on the page. Is this something new we're doing that I didn't hear about? I don't actually think it is a bad idea to signal (single?) out uncited info, but this is weird. citation needed Thanks! Ditch ∝ 19:35, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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Dennis, I stopped paying attention to the ANI on Kwamikagami and Lake Michigan-Huron just before you got involved; but I happened to go back to it and noticed someone gave you flak for closing against consensus. I'd just like to tell you that you handled that dispute really well. Since then, the editors involved have worked well together and Lake Michigan–Huron is now a B-class article. RockMagnetist ( talk) 17:58, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Since you blocked Rollo's last sock, User:DreamMcQueen, I thought you'd want to be aware of this current SPI, possibly involving Rollo. I am notifying you as the SPI clerk is asking for admin assistance. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 21:13, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello, Dennis, I noticed that you're on Wikibreak and I apologize for bothering you, but I have a personal request which you may help me with... I am leaving Wikipedia and would really like my account to be either blocked (permanently - I have no intention returning again for multiple reasons, mostly because of being tired of people greatly abusing WP:SOURCE instead of spending 5 minutes themselves to find and add in all of the necessary references to an article, partially because of personal physical health issue) or fully protected (at least the user page and the "Talk" page). Since I will be leaving, I will not be able to "clean it up" from harassment/vandalism such as this and this or whatever other vandalism there might be, so some kind of permanent block/protection would be really appreciated... I've submitted the request to WP:RFP but I doubt that anything useful will come from it :-/ Rndomuser ( talk) 00:36, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
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Having been involved in a recent RFC/U on Niemti regarding his behavior which you probably might not be aware of, I have a question regarding RFC/Us in general if they are closed. While I sincerely apologize for providing inconclusive evidence if I did so in the past or present and note that I have always moved on from previous disputes, I can understand that anyone can find other ways involving a dispute between a user over their conduct is not resolved after an RFC/U closes, but what do you think would be the next step if an RFC/U closes in general? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:02, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis - I had a SPI case, but the SPI board only says Admins can make ones - is this correct? Patriot1010 ( talk) 16:48, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I noticed you protected the articles which had been disrupted by an IP sock. Could you protect Hunnic Empire which is being disrupted by the same sock? Thanks. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 04:32, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Okay, so you've closed it, and everyone seems happy apart from the fact that I'm still under suspicion of running socks, no retraction of the claim has been made, nor any apology. It may be a satisfactory result for the instigator of all this, but it's not for me. I want this to be fixed one way or another, if that's (a) retracting the statements and apologising or (b) running a checkuser and publishing the results to all concerned, either way I don't mind. But I don't want this matter closed as it stands. Right now the instigator has made unfounded accusation without evidence and left it hanging. The Rambling Man ( talk) 21:24, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
Quick question : Did you intend to full-protect this article indefinitely?
Honestly, I don't have any burning desire to edit the article, but it seems like an overkill to me, so I thought I'd bring it up in case it was an accident. APL ( talk) 15:06, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
When you have time/are back, I was wondering if you would consider adopting me. I'm not the typical adoptee, as I have a few months' experience fighting vandalism and performing other maintenance tasks, however I feel I would benefit from reinforcing the policies and dealing with special situations. To be honest, I'm feeling a bit down after my failed RfA and feel a bit more practice and help from an experienced admin like you, who expressed trust in me, would help me get going again. If/when you have the time, please consider adopting me, or let me know if you know anybody else who would be able to help me. Many thanks, Vaca tion 9 13:01, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is " RfC proposal for community sanctions against Niemti". Thank you. I am notifying you per your request above. Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 16:52, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you make
personal attacks on other people, as you did at
User talk:Drmies, you may be
burned at the stake without further notice. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. It's hard to imagine a greater insult than wishing an
Old Milwaukee on a fellow editor. Except maybe
Bud Lite.
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12:31, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Dennis: Could you please take a look at the recent history of editing on this article, as well as the "Predictions" section on the talk page? Ding me for edit warring if you must, but I'm only trying to keep heavily fringe material out of the article. Thanks. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 14:18, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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You have been given some Easter Eggs. Have a very Happy Easter! Lord Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 00:41, 1 April 2013 (UTC) |
You voiced a suspicion here. It appears to be confirmed -- Boing! said Zebedee ( talk) 08:42, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
[5] seems likely in poor taste IMO (re: User:R-41) Cheers. Collect ( talk) 01:41, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Wow -- B7 does seem to be a quite good stalker, I guess. Dennis - I avoid B7 like the plague as a rule, and he seems not to follow the same rule. The fact is that R-41 is a staunch socialist who has been literally wiki-hounded a bunch of times now, and I suspect anyone who faced some of the posts he has faced would also quite lose temper - I find R-41 to be sincerely interested in improving articles, and is not one who goes around posting how nasty any editor is. My overlap with B7 is de minimis (12 articles total ever, or under 1/2 of 1% of articles I editted). Thanks for noting the odd post which I found to be beyond the pale. Collect ( talk) 13:02, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Exhaustively overhauled; nothing left on the page except what's sourced to books and other publications where I personally verified and saw context. Took out a few of those, too, where seemingly unimportant or adding nothing to the whole. Won't satisfy everyone, as if anything ever does. Please review and opine on whether this fixes what was complained of. Please also merge in edit history of Talk:Pandeism/Pandeism- as you've been involved enough to see that lion's share of the whole history of my work on this page was done there, and merging in won't confuse overall edit history, but will preserve the record of my work, and make clear what cuts and trims were made, step by step. Thank you. LCS check ( talk) 00:54, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis (or passing lurker with admin bit), I screwed up a page move and wonder if you might consider cleaning up after me? I intended to move A Narrative of the Captivity and Restoration of Mrs. Mary Rowlandson (1682) to A Narrative of the Captivity and Restoration of Mrs. Mary Rowlandson but found it was a redirect page (to the author). Without thinking ahead, I replaced the redirect with the text from the original and then made the original a redirect (to new title) instead. Of course, too late I realised that the page history from the original is now not recorded on the new article. Is there a way to fix? Thanks in advance and sorry for adding to the workload. Keri ( talk) 12:15, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Question - was your !vote on the last section in the WP:AN discussion on Neitmi sanctions an "Oppose" to both an interaction ban and civility parole, or just civility parole? I'm trying to close as accurately as possible.
Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 21:54, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis, I don't know if this is actually something you need to pay attention to, but since you were the blocking admin, and it's been so long that I doubt the talk page is still on your watchlist, I figured I should let you know that he's flirting in his way with the idea of trying to come back. davidiad { t } 22:19, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
you've been mentioned at ANI - see WP:ANI#User:Wondering55. -- Rs chen 7754 09:24, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I see that Orlady has fixed the userpage. And thank you for the clarification. SPI something I know very little about, so I figured a notice would do the trick.
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I'm writing to you in regards to my warnings to Drmies in regards to Binsar Wildlife Sanctuary. The thing is, all of the other sources on the page are a site that look like this (right):
How is that not spam? How is that okay and a non-commercialized website not? Please explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MNdude11 ( talk • contribs) 21:57, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello Denis, I know you are cuurently busy, but could I please ask you to look at the edits to the above article and in particular to Brandywines Talk page? I have tried to help and to be constructive, but appear to be getting abuse. Would be glad of your opinion/action. Many thanks, David, David J Johnson ( talk) 23:35, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Dennis Brown! You're nomination, Anna, for the Editor of The Week has just been awarded. Congratulations! The Wikimon ( talk) 13:01, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. The thread is Unblocking Colton Cosmic. Yunshui 雲 水 18:33, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
I saw what happened in the Khwarazmian dynasty article, but may i ask when it's going to be unprotected again so other people can edit it?-- HistoryofIran ( talk) 12:56, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis. Not sure if we've formally met, but I certainly know your name around town. Nice to finally have this opportunity. I've been looking at your User:Dennis Brown/RfA page and would like to submit my name forward as someone who would like you to review. I have read through you recommendations of criteria an editor should meet prior to requesting and I do fall short of your 200 edits per month in 12 of the 18 previous months. That said, I am hopeful that you still consider my request. I am available for any preliminary questions you would like to ask me before making a decision. If you are busy or would like to decline, I fully understand. Thanks for your time, Mkdw talk 06:24, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
The silk road has many embedded links to the URL in its history. A lot, even spaced so as to not catch the filter. As this one shows. [8] Including other fake and false ones as seen here. [9] It probably isn't recommended, but is it possible to REVDEL them all or the entire thing? ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 02:39, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Are you able to go on IRC for a few minutes for some questions unrelated to Wikipedia? Ryan Vesey 19:04, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks man. That dude is persistent! Drmies ( talk) 17:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC) |
No problem, friend. And thanks for the sparkly, I've not been around to earn many of these lately. Stored safely in the Ronco Barnstar Vault. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 17:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
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For keeping the talk page at Talk:2013 Boston Marathon bombings sensible, and answering questions there of the new users. Thankyou! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry ( Message me) 23:20, 15 April 2013 (UTC) |
Thank you! It is always nice to hear from someone I remember from way in the day and looked up to. I'm quite flattered by your kindness here. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 23:22, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello,
Our company's page, Passat Ltd., has been deleted and we would like to revert this decision, if possible.
I believe that our company is notable. For instance, the laser that we made has been sent to Mars and used to discover water there (Phoenix Martian Mission: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(spacecraft)#Robotic_arm_and_camera). We will also participate in OSIRIS mission: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSIRIS-REx. We are a small company and there might not be enough references about us online but we could provide some offline references as well.
Please let us know what is required in order to get our page reinstated?
Thank you, Vladimir Yavelsky 116D Viceroy Rd. Unit 1-4 Concord, Ontario L4K 2M4, Canada tel: 905-695-1088 fax: 888-635-0657 email: vlad@passatltd.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Passatltd ( talk • contribs) 21:07, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
It is now early morning US time and the comment rate seems to be slowing somewhat. I've tried to keep up with the pace by archiving manually through the evening/night (the advantage of being on Australian time). I've tried to keep the page to around 50 threads, max. This has meant archiving a couple of threads that were mostly (but perhaps not entirely) resolved. But the alternate was to accumulate threads (there are 76 between the talk page and Archive 1 and counting) which would have been impossible to navigate, especially for mobile users. I've also closed/archived some threads to which I contributed - your stalkers should feel free to trout away if they are concerned but I saw no other option. Anyway, thought I'd note all that here for transparency/clarity and for the sake of some admin oversight. Stalwart 111 07:42, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi Dennis. I've been working on an essay How WP:COI would read if I wrote it. It's intended to stay in user-space permanently, being that we have way too many forks already and I've lost any hope at improving WP:COI, but I figured I needed something more useful to link people to than anything that exists. If you have time, I would love any input you may have. CorporateM ( Talk) 14:32, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for keeping an eye on the Boston Marathon bombings article. It's getting a ton of hits, and I'm glad that diligent editors are there to answer questions and maintain quality. – Quadell ( talk) 17:43, 16 April 2013 (UTC) |
Hi Dennis. I know you said you were busy with work so I hope this doesn't find you at a bad time. :) I wanted to notify you that I continued the discussion on an AN/I that you were involved in. [10] Thanks for your assistance! Justiciero1811 ( talk) 21:12, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
If I'm slow to answer here, it is because I'm trying to patrol the talk page on this article (not editing the actual article, so I can clerk the talk page a bit). If anyone calm, cool and collected would like to help, it would be appreciated. Lots of new users all excited about adding material, and much of that isn't within policy, so it take some patience to explain this to them. If you can calmly do this, please consider helping out there. Thanks in advance. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 01:02, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
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If we had a Tireless Contributor Teamwork barnstar, I would award that to you, but I am not that technically inclined, so you'll have to settle for one that doesn't spin. In any case, you have been terrific on Talk:Boston Marathon bombings and I don't know what the rest of us monitoring would do without you. Thank you very much. Go Phightins ! 02:10, 17 April 2013 (UTC) |
Thank you GP, I appreciate the kind words. I appreciate your work there as well. Having calm and sane people just participating and explaining "why" in valid and concise ways really makes it much easier to keep the page flowing constructively, and you're always a great contributor in that. As I explained above, these articles bring us lots of new editors, and how we treat them can make a big difference, particularly when they want to put things in that don't fit with policy. Thanks again :) Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 02:16, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
For all the problems that occur here, at least we're not the Chechen Wikipedia, where every administrator and bureaucrat just had their tools removed. Ryan Vesey 14:54, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
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Lord Sjones23 (
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16:29, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey, Dennis, if you're around, can you look into re-protecting this page for a while? We're getting an IP-hopper inserting utterly unsourced claims about North Korea being behind it (yet disguised with a citation to an article that doesn't even mention North Korea), as well as some other things. Drmies and I both feel too involved at this point (we've been editing the article in an editorial capacity over an issue about one of the victims' name), so if you're still uninvolved yourself, take a look. If not, though, or if you're not around, no biggie: I'll just make a request at RFPP. Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 15:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Regarding the Boston Marathon bombings article, is there a good reason not to include a particularly graphic image. One in particular has been cited numerous times in wp:rs as "iconic", and other sources mention the Associated Press in critical commentary for their editorial decision to publish the image. My76Strat ( talk) 12:02, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Did I really oppose you at RfA? [14] You're obviously much more forgiving than I am. I have a list of all those who opposed me, and I never miss an opportunity to get my own back on every single one of the bastards. Malleus Fatuorum 17:55, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
Heya Dennis, quick question for you. I saw your comment on
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Dzhokar Tsarnaev and I was just wondering how
WP:BLP1E works when BLP1E also says "It is not the case that the event is significant and the individual's role within it is substantial and well-documented – as in the case of
John Hinckley, Jr., who
shot President Ronald Reagan in 1981." It seems like BLP1E could be contraticting itself, or maybe I'm just interpreting this wrong
Anywho, thanks for your help good sir! — -
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