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The Original Barnstar |
Thank you for all your hard work on 1950s American automobile culture. It is the kind of article that makes me proud to be a Wikipedian. Please accept this barnstar as a small token of my appreciation. Michael Barera ( talk) 01:12, 15 December 2012 (UTC) |
That's a super award Dennis, greatly appreciated. This barnstar seconded for your recent superb work on this article, and I wish you the best for getting it up to FA status!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:34, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Could you take a look at this situation: new editor, apparent SPA, pushing a POV (over what to call a Native American tribe), making incompetent edits, and not responding to my comments on their talk page. There's a discussion about the issue on the article's talk page, but no consensus about what to do that I can see. I've reverted a couple of times and don't want to get into an edit war, so I'd like to de-list the article knowing that a competent third party (you) is going to take a look. Thanks, Beyond My Ken ( talk) 05:46, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Dennis,
Thanks for your welcome to a fellow Carolinian. I grew up in Anson County. I see you write a lot about my new home County - Davidson. I have read some of your articles and enjoyed them immensely. Don't think I will ever be as prolific in Writing as you have been.
Thanks for the welcome.
CarolinaHistory ( talk) 16:25, 15 December 2012 (UTC)Charlie Purvis aka CarolinaHistory
Dennis, for some reason someone keeps closing/hatting Talk:Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting#Why_is_not_mentioned_that_he_is_Jewish.3F with the reason as "nonsense". I reverted it and noted that even an admin (you) is participating in the discussion. Just wanted to make you aware of this in case they try to close it again. Thanks! -- 76.189.123.142 ( talk) 18:43, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
I would say that later, some weeks or months from now, when much more information has come out, and the motive and background of the event are better understood, a straight-forward and factual presentation of his religion would not be a problem, but it's not called for now, as it is both potentially inflammatory and of unknown relevance. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 19:40, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey Dennis! I have filed an SPI case Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jamesyboy2468. Another interesting and complex case filled out with all the evidence and information on the SPI page. I believe this won't be too hard for you to give it a yes :). Regards. TheGeneralUser ( talk) 20:05, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
You might be interested to notice one IP is insistent that you didn't have the authority to close the "Why is his religion not mentioned?" section on the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting talk page and keeps removing your archive template to explain at length how you and another closer are violating procedure. Pstanton ( talk) 21:52, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Recent history before your semi-protection did not show enough disruption to warrant it. Please unprotect. 219.79.91.100 ( talk) 01:27, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Could you or a TPS delete Talk:Veganism/GA1 (IPs cannot review GAs)? Thanks. -- Rschen7754 public ( talk) 15:25, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
==tention|Join WER]] 15:35, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Some IP editor w/ 1 days existence is hatting my support of fewllow editors. I am willing to tske this to the highesgt court but would rather have the situation resolved before an edit war erupts. Thank you. ``` Buster Seven Talk 15:41, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to get some advice from you with regard to a new editor, Jack Dikian. The editor in question has made no edits to WP except to his own user page (he has also, more recently, edited via an IP address which has the same editing history). The original version of his user page was unambiguously promotional and had a number of significant WP:FAKEARTICLE characteristics. This was pointed out and the content removed. Neither the user nor the IP have made any attempt to reinsert that material or revert the changes or insert other "fake article" attributes. But the IP has continued to edit the user page and no other page and the user page once again is starting to look like soft redirect to the author's personal website. I found the user page on a random new page patrol and few other editors have seen it or taken action. I'm conscious that this may be a WP:COMPETENCE issue, rather than any form of disruptive editing. The editor has not engaged on his talk page (where I have left a couple of messages) but I don't consider this evasiveness - I just don't think he knows how WP works. I'm just getting concerned that my (it's really only me at the moment) ongoing engagement might be seen as WP:BITEY or come off looking like one person has picked a fight with the guy. His talk page is all me so far! I think (given his writing style and areas of interest) he could be a valuable contributor if only he could be directed towards some non-self-focussed editing. Given your WER work I thought you might be the right person to raise this with. I understand entirely, though, if you're busy and need to direct me elsewhere. Your advice would be appreciated. Cheers, Stalwart 111 22:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC).
Hi Dennis,
I received an email from you today regarding my user page Jack Dikian. I'm really lost as to what I can and cannot do with this page and struggling to ensure that I don't get blocked. I appreciate your remarks (although I'm not sure whether you are suggesting I do the edits or that you will). I can't see any edits on my page other than what I had performed last night.
I'm more than happy for you to edit out what you believe is inappropriate. I truly am coming at this from a place of naivety and not looking to break an/or get around your usage protocols.
I fact I just worked out how to contact you using "talk".
I appreciate your understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Dikian ( talk • contribs) 23:23, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
New editor Special:Contributions/Bigh_Whigh has inserted a 2005 article in the Reactions section three times today, 1 2 3. Would you be willing to help them along with understanding the consensus process? I fear that if I revert them again, they'll just promptly re-insert their preferred addition once more without understanding WP:3RR. Regards, AzureCitizen ( talk) 01:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Dennis: A suggestion - when you leave your stop sign message on user talk pages, you might want to add {{clear left}} at the end of the text, so that the next posted item will display below the stop sign instead of being indented. Best, Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:54, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your efforts to keep things cool and policy-following at the Sandy Hook talk page. Lots of emotion + lots of new people + rapidly changing information = recipe for a mess. Thanks for helping keep it as unmessy as possible. Ladyof Shalott 02:37, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I have no effing idea what you mean? This edit? Take a good long look at the useless speculative comment I removed. *That* is soapboxing, not my removal of it. -- 213.196.218.39 ( talk) 12:03, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Question: should blocked, unable to edit own talk page users be able to send Wiki-email? You blocked Mdp0007 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) a few days ago and, apparently, removed his ability to edit his talk page. I just received an email from him (see quote/italics below - presumably a response to my revert here diff). The email was not threatening, it is rather strange. Given his history, he might be phishing for my email address. I am not personally concerned about getting email from banned editors, but it seems that if email is not blocked, they could continue to harass others. Did something fall through the cracks, or is there a system issue that should be addressed? Should I do something about this? Thanks for all of your hard admin work! Cheers Jim1138 ( talk) 08:15, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I do not understant why you reverted my edit's without FIRST telling me what I had done wrong?? I am a little new to this and maybe you should have taken the time to help me instead just blasting out my edit's first. I know Kathy very well and that edit has been documented by The New Scotland Yard. I am also very close to Billy Cox also. I do not have any idea why you did what you did. Can please explain what I did wrong and why would you not help me first?????? Mark Pagliaro
Thanks for the appreciation of the 1000 DYKs. Hehe if you ever feel fed up listen to a bit of Ella, this makes me feel happy as larry!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 18:57, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
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The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar |
Thanks for the work on Sandy Hook, which you did valiantly while giving up the body. Get well soon. Drmies ( talk) 22:55, 17 December 2012 (UTC) |
Hi there, I would like you to reconsider the decision to close the discussion found at Talk:Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting#Associated_attack_in_China. Reading the comments, it seems that no consensus was reached, and some editors (including myself) probably have more to add to the discussion. Regards, —Entropy ( T/ C) 00:01, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
From: theophil magus <chapter17j@yahoo.com> To: Sue Gardner <donate@wikimedia.org>; ""info-en@wikimedia.org"" <info-en@wikimedia.org> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 7:06 PM Subject: Re: leonard oprea: Please, I need help: ATTACK ON THE PAGE! Again were erased all the reliable sources provided by Leonard Oprea. Why?!!
(cur | prev) 01:27, 17 December 2012 TheRedPenOfDoom(talk | contribs) . . (7,448 bytes) (-2,994) . .(the WP:REDFLAG extraordinary claim that Thomas is wrong brings all claims from this editor under question) (undo)
(cur | prev) 01:10, 17 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (10,442 bytes) (+59) . .(leonard oprea: "life and career" , added "under the communist dictatorship of Nicolae Ceausescu" /on first line) (undo)(cur | prev) 01:01, 17 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (10,383 bytes) (+653) . .(leonard oprea: new reliable sources concering "anti-communist dissident" and "offcially forbade writings"; please - do not cut off arbitrary; thank you) (undo)(cur | prev) 03:14, 16 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (9,730 bytes) (+12) . .(layout minor corrections) (undo)(cur | prev) 03:06, 16 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (9,718 bytes) (+12) . . (undo)(cur | prev) 03:04, 16 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (9,706 bytes) (+69) . .(Leonard Oprea: minor layout corrections) (undo)(cur | prev) 02:30, 16 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (9,637 bytes) (+2,189) . .(Leonard Oprea: having copies of Congressional Record, July 26, 1990 / "Thomas" is wrong!/ and all the other proven links and corrections - I did the mandatory corrections. Please, with all due respect, stop to cut arbitrary the proven links.Thank you.) (undo)
-- Theophilmagus ( talk) 00:11, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cambria (company) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cambria (company) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -- Alan Liefting ( talk - contribs) 00:13, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Can you look at the comments at Talk:Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting#Picture of rifle used in the Weapons section of the article? I suggested File:Bushmaster.jpg (That's assuming an image is used, which is a separate issue that I didn't address although my comment probably implies that I support an image which I actually haven't given any thought to). In any case, I thought as an FFL dealer you might know more than the rest of us. Ryan Vesey
For the 'heading' you used when you closed this discussion. It's a sad subject but your comment lightened my mood a little bit. Shearonink ( talk) 03:35, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
I found a collection of 7 up silo images on flickr for use in the article on Cambria [4]. None of the images are free, but one is more free than the others [5]. (Actually, would the logo be considered de minimis or is every image of the silo non-free?) Either way, the question is, do we use the most free image, or use the best image since none of them are free? Ryan Vesey 07:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting#Parents_and_brother_are_all_registered_Republicans.2C_according_to_public_records thanks HammerFilmFan ( talk) 22:07, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Get better soon mate!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 22:49, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey Dennis, got a MAJOR problem that could effect hundreds of articles. Back in 2008, Neilsen issued a DMCA Takedown Notice via OTRS ticket #2008091610055854, which wiped out their media market information from hundreds of pages. The MAJOR problem at hand Nielsen just bought Arbitron for $1.26 billion and with Arbitron issuing radio media market information, that DMCA Takedown Notice will carry over. We have to remove all Arbitron information from all pages ASAP per OTRS ticket #2008091610055854. Is there a bot available to do this? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:30, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Just an update: No response from legal or Philippe, but then again, it is only 6:13am in San Francisco (at Wikimedia World Headquarters), so that could be the reason there. I will keep an eye on it and let you all know.
If they do say the OTRS ticket will carry over, what should I do? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 14:14, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Not asking for any action, but I had to bring this to you as this was very irritating and I'll feel better getting it of my chest and not holding on to it. Admin User:Jc37 reverted a recent edit I made on BRD [6]. This was summarized only with links to the term "iteractive". I guess I am just an idiot for not knowing that the word itself was not a misspelling (when I added an n) and meant all of the contribution was worthless to the editor/admin. I don't see anything else wrong with the edit, so I have to wonder why they didn't just correct the error instead of becoming professor JC37 and removing all of the content. I suppose it is because they can. To me. that seemd like an un-necessary revert and I see it as edit warring. Again, not asking for action, but am I completely wrong here (not about the edit warring thing...thats just me opinion)? (also...I am not touching the page for a minimum of 24 hrs)-- Amadscientist ( talk) 13:12, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
and this edit - I agree, consensus is that the Phelps bunch doesn't get their WP mention. FYI, I am keeping an eye on the article and the talkpage...if this comes up again, I'll refer any adherents for including the 'news' (in advance of any actual newsworthy/notable Phelps events connected with Sandy Hook events) to the hatted discussion. Shearonink ( talk) 15:38, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
I don't wish to interrupt your #Sounding board discussion above (which I only just now noticed), but merely wanted to note that, should this require it (though for a single revert, I would hope that open discussion could resolve it), I welcome you as mediating this, as we both appear to respect your thoughts. - jc37 01:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I once said of Mr Stradivarius that he could charm the wool off sheep. Well - you're giving him a run for his money today. You've said quite a few kind things about me today and I just wanted to express that. (Though of course, you could just be buttering me up for future mediation : ) - jc37 03:28, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey Dennis, since you are an SPI clerk, could you give this SPI a look-see, please? It has been open since late on the 16th and hasn't been touched/looked at by any SPI clerks. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:34, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I keep an eye on the new articles pages to watch for North Carolina-related articles and found a curious issue. Don't really know where to go with this. Today, it looks like someone is creating a bunch of what I would call non-notable articles (which in and of itself isn't too big a problem). The articles are not well made (bad formatting, using WP:SYNTH and including a lot of extraneous info), but the main issue I have is that they are supposedly created by multiple users editing in exactly the same way. If it was just one user account, I could leave a message discussing the articles there. I think, however, these may be the same person using multiple accounts (they edit the same way and have much of the same info). However, if it is a class/student project, then I'd like to leave a message for the coordinator, giving them some info about how to edit on Wikipedia, but have no clue who that would be. Please look into the following articles and their users:
I guess I'd have to go through a group AfD for all of these if need be, but wanted to let you know of the bigger issue regarding the user(s) actions. Thank you! -- JoannaSerah ( talk) 19:52, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes, Thank you Shearonink. I didn't want to just start going through and deleting those because I did think that it was good faith effort, but the mass of added non-notable articles just struck me as odd. Thank you all for your help. -- JoannaSerah ( talk) 02:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Patience is appropriate. I do want to AGF and not scare them off. I just didn't want them to start going through and adding even more articles like that. The Articles for Creation process would have been more appropriate for this stuff. Thank you. -- JoannaSerah ( talk) 17:06, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
From the response that was posted to my 'Welcome and a question' query at Talk:JohnRobinson94, yes, our theory that these were part of some educational assignment is correct, all these articles were part of a final project for an English class. Drmies, I agree that Wikiversity might be an appropriate home for all the individual texts, other than userfying the content I think it is the only possible home among the various Wikimedia projects (in my opinion none of the article's subjects are notable enough to survive any type of WP notability review). I am unsure, though, as to who to contact about these FWP articles at Wikiversity or even how to contact an administrator/coordinator at that project, am hoping that someone here (like an admin-type?) could initiate some sort of contact with the instructor before we move or userfy any of the articles. Also, if we are considering the idea that all this content should perhaps be moved to Wikiversity, then that would have to probably be approved by someone on that side of the fence....I don't want to be perceived as just shoving things over the transom and hope they land without breaking...
Would it be possible to put some sort of pre-emptive notice on all these articles now that they are all part of a class assignment, maybe something from
Wikipedia:School and university projects? I'd like to keep the possible oncoming CSD/PRODs at bay until the instructor can be contacted. The work that these students did is actually quite good technically, some of these contributors would probably be an asset to WP, it's just a shame that the subjects they chose seem to be so non-notable. --
Shearonink (
talk)
21:41, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Any movement on this? A few of the articles have been PRODed. I have added a welcome message to the professor's talk page, but probably needs someone (admin, ambassador, etc.) to coordinate this better than I would, I think. -- JoannaSerah ( talk) 16:00, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
After a quick look I would say that these sound like they are within the scope of Wikiversity, although they will likely require some modification to be made useful there. I'll bring this to the attention of the community in our discussion forum. We have similar learning resources that were done as classwork such as v:The_Crafting_Freedom_Project. As an admin at en-wv I can transwiki copy any pages in danger of being deleted. Please use {{ Copy_to_Wikiversity}} to identify articles outside the scope of wp that are part of this project. I would suggest that you hold off on taking any action for about two weeks to given the instructor and students time to finish and evaluate the work for grades, so that this good faith effort is not unduly disrupted by a simple misunderstanding of wp guidelines. If the instructor's assignments are generally outside of the scope here, we would be happy to help set something up at wv to accommodate future class work. -- mikeu talk 19:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
I think they should be okay on WV as far as scope goes, but I'd be slightly worried about BLP-type issues (there aren't any policies in place to deal with that, and there aren't all that many people patrolling).
In case of emergency (things get speedied, etc.) tell them to get in touch with me on my talk: I have buttons in both places, so I can still import even after deletion. -- SB_Johnny | talk✌ 11:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
OK, I got a response from the instructor; see User talk:Cjr100B. Let me draw up what appears to be a consensus here (correct me if I'm wrong), before making a few notes to indicate why I think these articles don't meet our guidelines.
So, I see no option to conclude that, barring individual and extraordinary circumstances that lead to notability, these subjects are not notable, at least not without additional evidence from other sources than the project, sources which specifically discuss the subject. Moving them to Wikiversity is the best option. Drmies ( talk) 18:35, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I have just found this discussion, after having nominated Della McCullers and Aunt Hassie Fletcher for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Della McCullers. I would be happy to withdraw the nomination if a better solution is found - were all these articles going to be moved? St Anselm ( talk) 00:50, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
WT:MMA#MMA_Event_Notability.
Kevlar (
talk)
18:45, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
I have some evidence of this. I don't like to get involved this deep but it is being used as a ploy against me. and I don't know where to present it. I see you seem to be involved in some of this. Help? Thanks. 174.118.142.187 ( talk) 20:37, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! I have gone through the process. I hope I didn't screw up the form too much. When did editing get this complicated? :) 174.118.142.187 ( talk) 21:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey Dennis, not too sure if you remember but a few months ago I was accused of being a sockpuppet for a user called BigzMMA, and that after confining in you and another admin I was eventually unblocked as it was proven that we are not the same user.
The reason I am writing to you now is that I have recently received what seems like a threatening message from a Mtking, telling me that "If you are [BigsMMA] then I wish to to give you one more chance to come clean and throw yourself at the mercy of the admins." He then said that he intends to reopen the SPI case that previously blocked me without any warnings or notifications. I'm not too sure how to react to this, so I simply replied to him to say that through you and the other admin, User:Steven Zhang, that it was proven that we (me and Bigzmma) could not be the same person, and that I will ask for your advice on how to handle the situation if he does reopen the SPI. I also asked that if he does if I could get the link for the discussion, as last time I was not even informed prior to being blocked.
Now as well as your advice on how to deal with the SPI if it happens, I wanted to ask for your opinion on whether he has taken the right moves also. From the way he written the message (can be seen on this link), it almost comes off as a threat, at least it does to me. If you get a chance to read it, can you tell me whether I should report it as a personal attack or something, I do feel unnerved by this message, and after last time, fear what will happen from here on. Thank you for your time. Pound4Pound ( talk) 14:03, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I just saw a thing on the travel channel talking about how Randy's Donuts came from 1950's American Car Culture. In addition to the large donut to be seen from the road, it has a drive thru. Ryan Vesey 15:33, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Yo DB, could you take a look at User talk:TyroneBiggums23? It's another one of MikeFromCanmore's socks, who's posting unblock requests (theoretically since his TPA and email was removed from his main account). I don't actually know why his email access was removed; Alison took it away as part of the Flyer22 thing, but didn't restore it when Flyer22 was found to be unrelated. Has Mike actually abused the email feature, and if he hasn't, is it worth restoring email access so he can send in a ticket to UTRS? Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 17:08, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
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I won't make my same edit again, but I'd like to turn it over to an uninvolved admin to watch. Harryzilber is understandably upset. When it comes to the issues of right and wrong, in a case where there probably is no right and wrong, people become emotionally involved. That's also why I'm stepping away from the talk page. My last edit was to remove what I perceived as a personal attack against me [10]. If you agree that it is a personal attack and it is restored, can you take care of it? I'll leave anything from now on. Ryan Vesey 19:56, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I have given you all the barnstars [11]. Thanks for everything you've done to keep this place sane and all the help and advice you've given me. Ryan Vesey 21:49, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Dennis: Could you, or one of the other admins who read this page, take a look at this talk page? Basically, you've got an SPA with a major POV on the subject accusing people of being totalitarian and exhibiting serious IDHT behavior. Other editors seem to be fraying around the edges and the whole thing could use some calming down. (I'm involved to the very limited extent of suggesting that the SPA chill out and ratchet back the rhetoric. I haven't edited the article, although I did comment in the ongoing AfD.) The thread is here. Thanks. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 23:09, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
"gullible and foolhardy". pablo 23:24, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Bearian just used rollback for an edit that clearly wasn't vandalism [12]. It appeared to be a mistake so I undid it. It apparently wasn't. Bearian then full protected the page to avoid an edit conflict. (I'm assuming he'll be removing the full protection soon). I don't think he's intentionally being abusive, but I believe he momentarily had a lapse of judgement. Want to take care of it? Should it be taken care of? Ryan Vesey 23:52, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Conversely there really isn't that much difference between r/b and undo on a single edit, we can afford to be nice about people who do that. It's only when someone does amss rollback tha things go wrong.
Rich
Farmbrough,
04:27, 21 December 2012 (UTC).
Sorry for the drama.
Bearian (
talk)
00:34, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey Dennis, lately, I'm pretty bonked with real life and such. I'm going to reduce my editing until probably early January, if I feel up to it. I'll still be editing, just not as frequently as before. I'll try to catch up on the mentoring, however there is no guarantee. I hope you understand. -- LuK3 (Talk) 03:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
This is an interesting question [14] about whether it is even possible to do so for any/and all future sockpuppets of a user. Not just per policy but as a matter of tech. Could you take a moment if this is still active when you get up and the answer has not been given?-- Amadscientist ( talk) 08:29, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
I know you will agree with me. See User talk:SchuminWeb for details. No-one should be made to feel like that by other people here. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 10:32, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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Just in case you didn't know, your article will be on the main page in 19 minutes. Ryan Vesey 23:42, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
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The DYK project ( nominate) 00:02, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
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The Original Barnstar |
Thank you for all your hard work on 1950s American automobile culture. It is the kind of article that makes me proud to be a Wikipedian. Please accept this barnstar as a small token of my appreciation. Michael Barera ( talk) 01:12, 15 December 2012 (UTC) |
That's a super award Dennis, greatly appreciated. This barnstar seconded for your recent superb work on this article, and I wish you the best for getting it up to FA status!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:34, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Could you take a look at this situation: new editor, apparent SPA, pushing a POV (over what to call a Native American tribe), making incompetent edits, and not responding to my comments on their talk page. There's a discussion about the issue on the article's talk page, but no consensus about what to do that I can see. I've reverted a couple of times and don't want to get into an edit war, so I'd like to de-list the article knowing that a competent third party (you) is going to take a look. Thanks, Beyond My Ken ( talk) 05:46, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Dennis,
Thanks for your welcome to a fellow Carolinian. I grew up in Anson County. I see you write a lot about my new home County - Davidson. I have read some of your articles and enjoyed them immensely. Don't think I will ever be as prolific in Writing as you have been.
Thanks for the welcome.
CarolinaHistory ( talk) 16:25, 15 December 2012 (UTC)Charlie Purvis aka CarolinaHistory
Dennis, for some reason someone keeps closing/hatting Talk:Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting#Why_is_not_mentioned_that_he_is_Jewish.3F with the reason as "nonsense". I reverted it and noted that even an admin (you) is participating in the discussion. Just wanted to make you aware of this in case they try to close it again. Thanks! -- 76.189.123.142 ( talk) 18:43, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
I would say that later, some weeks or months from now, when much more information has come out, and the motive and background of the event are better understood, a straight-forward and factual presentation of his religion would not be a problem, but it's not called for now, as it is both potentially inflammatory and of unknown relevance. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 19:40, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey Dennis! I have filed an SPI case Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jamesyboy2468. Another interesting and complex case filled out with all the evidence and information on the SPI page. I believe this won't be too hard for you to give it a yes :). Regards. TheGeneralUser ( talk) 20:05, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
You might be interested to notice one IP is insistent that you didn't have the authority to close the "Why is his religion not mentioned?" section on the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting talk page and keeps removing your archive template to explain at length how you and another closer are violating procedure. Pstanton ( talk) 21:52, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Recent history before your semi-protection did not show enough disruption to warrant it. Please unprotect. 219.79.91.100 ( talk) 01:27, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Could you or a TPS delete Talk:Veganism/GA1 (IPs cannot review GAs)? Thanks. -- Rschen7754 public ( talk) 15:25, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
==tention|Join WER]] 15:35, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Some IP editor w/ 1 days existence is hatting my support of fewllow editors. I am willing to tske this to the highesgt court but would rather have the situation resolved before an edit war erupts. Thank you. ``` Buster Seven Talk 15:41, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to get some advice from you with regard to a new editor, Jack Dikian. The editor in question has made no edits to WP except to his own user page (he has also, more recently, edited via an IP address which has the same editing history). The original version of his user page was unambiguously promotional and had a number of significant WP:FAKEARTICLE characteristics. This was pointed out and the content removed. Neither the user nor the IP have made any attempt to reinsert that material or revert the changes or insert other "fake article" attributes. But the IP has continued to edit the user page and no other page and the user page once again is starting to look like soft redirect to the author's personal website. I found the user page on a random new page patrol and few other editors have seen it or taken action. I'm conscious that this may be a WP:COMPETENCE issue, rather than any form of disruptive editing. The editor has not engaged on his talk page (where I have left a couple of messages) but I don't consider this evasiveness - I just don't think he knows how WP works. I'm just getting concerned that my (it's really only me at the moment) ongoing engagement might be seen as WP:BITEY or come off looking like one person has picked a fight with the guy. His talk page is all me so far! I think (given his writing style and areas of interest) he could be a valuable contributor if only he could be directed towards some non-self-focussed editing. Given your WER work I thought you might be the right person to raise this with. I understand entirely, though, if you're busy and need to direct me elsewhere. Your advice would be appreciated. Cheers, Stalwart 111 22:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC).
Hi Dennis,
I received an email from you today regarding my user page Jack Dikian. I'm really lost as to what I can and cannot do with this page and struggling to ensure that I don't get blocked. I appreciate your remarks (although I'm not sure whether you are suggesting I do the edits or that you will). I can't see any edits on my page other than what I had performed last night.
I'm more than happy for you to edit out what you believe is inappropriate. I truly am coming at this from a place of naivety and not looking to break an/or get around your usage protocols.
I fact I just worked out how to contact you using "talk".
I appreciate your understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Dikian ( talk • contribs) 23:23, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
New editor Special:Contributions/Bigh_Whigh has inserted a 2005 article in the Reactions section three times today, 1 2 3. Would you be willing to help them along with understanding the consensus process? I fear that if I revert them again, they'll just promptly re-insert their preferred addition once more without understanding WP:3RR. Regards, AzureCitizen ( talk) 01:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Dennis: A suggestion - when you leave your stop sign message on user talk pages, you might want to add {{clear left}} at the end of the text, so that the next posted item will display below the stop sign instead of being indented. Best, Beyond My Ken ( talk) 01:54, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your efforts to keep things cool and policy-following at the Sandy Hook talk page. Lots of emotion + lots of new people + rapidly changing information = recipe for a mess. Thanks for helping keep it as unmessy as possible. Ladyof Shalott 02:37, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I have no effing idea what you mean? This edit? Take a good long look at the useless speculative comment I removed. *That* is soapboxing, not my removal of it. -- 213.196.218.39 ( talk) 12:03, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Question: should blocked, unable to edit own talk page users be able to send Wiki-email? You blocked Mdp0007 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) a few days ago and, apparently, removed his ability to edit his talk page. I just received an email from him (see quote/italics below - presumably a response to my revert here diff). The email was not threatening, it is rather strange. Given his history, he might be phishing for my email address. I am not personally concerned about getting email from banned editors, but it seems that if email is not blocked, they could continue to harass others. Did something fall through the cracks, or is there a system issue that should be addressed? Should I do something about this? Thanks for all of your hard admin work! Cheers Jim1138 ( talk) 08:15, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I do not understant why you reverted my edit's without FIRST telling me what I had done wrong?? I am a little new to this and maybe you should have taken the time to help me instead just blasting out my edit's first. I know Kathy very well and that edit has been documented by The New Scotland Yard. I am also very close to Billy Cox also. I do not have any idea why you did what you did. Can please explain what I did wrong and why would you not help me first?????? Mark Pagliaro
Thanks for the appreciation of the 1000 DYKs. Hehe if you ever feel fed up listen to a bit of Ella, this makes me feel happy as larry!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 18:57, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for the work on Sandy Hook, which you did valiantly while giving up the body. Get well soon. Drmies ( talk) 22:55, 17 December 2012 (UTC) |
Hi there, I would like you to reconsider the decision to close the discussion found at Talk:Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting#Associated_attack_in_China. Reading the comments, it seems that no consensus was reached, and some editors (including myself) probably have more to add to the discussion. Regards, —Entropy ( T/ C) 00:01, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
From: theophil magus <chapter17j@yahoo.com> To: Sue Gardner <donate@wikimedia.org>; ""info-en@wikimedia.org"" <info-en@wikimedia.org> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 7:06 PM Subject: Re: leonard oprea: Please, I need help: ATTACK ON THE PAGE! Again were erased all the reliable sources provided by Leonard Oprea. Why?!!
(cur | prev) 01:27, 17 December 2012 TheRedPenOfDoom(talk | contribs) . . (7,448 bytes) (-2,994) . .(the WP:REDFLAG extraordinary claim that Thomas is wrong brings all claims from this editor under question) (undo)
(cur | prev) 01:10, 17 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (10,442 bytes) (+59) . .(leonard oprea: "life and career" , added "under the communist dictatorship of Nicolae Ceausescu" /on first line) (undo)(cur | prev) 01:01, 17 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (10,383 bytes) (+653) . .(leonard oprea: new reliable sources concering "anti-communist dissident" and "offcially forbade writings"; please - do not cut off arbitrary; thank you) (undo)(cur | prev) 03:14, 16 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (9,730 bytes) (+12) . .(layout minor corrections) (undo)(cur | prev) 03:06, 16 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (9,718 bytes) (+12) . . (undo)(cur | prev) 03:04, 16 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (9,706 bytes) (+69) . .(Leonard Oprea: minor layout corrections) (undo)(cur | prev) 02:30, 16 December 2012 Theophilmagus(talk | contribs) m . . (9,637 bytes) (+2,189) . .(Leonard Oprea: having copies of Congressional Record, July 26, 1990 / "Thomas" is wrong!/ and all the other proven links and corrections - I did the mandatory corrections. Please, with all due respect, stop to cut arbitrary the proven links.Thank you.) (undo)
-- Theophilmagus ( talk) 00:11, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cambria (company) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cambria (company) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -- Alan Liefting ( talk - contribs) 00:13, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Can you look at the comments at Talk:Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting#Picture of rifle used in the Weapons section of the article? I suggested File:Bushmaster.jpg (That's assuming an image is used, which is a separate issue that I didn't address although my comment probably implies that I support an image which I actually haven't given any thought to). In any case, I thought as an FFL dealer you might know more than the rest of us. Ryan Vesey
For the 'heading' you used when you closed this discussion. It's a sad subject but your comment lightened my mood a little bit. Shearonink ( talk) 03:35, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
I found a collection of 7 up silo images on flickr for use in the article on Cambria [4]. None of the images are free, but one is more free than the others [5]. (Actually, would the logo be considered de minimis or is every image of the silo non-free?) Either way, the question is, do we use the most free image, or use the best image since none of them are free? Ryan Vesey 07:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting#Parents_and_brother_are_all_registered_Republicans.2C_according_to_public_records thanks HammerFilmFan ( talk) 22:07, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Get better soon mate!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 22:49, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey Dennis, got a MAJOR problem that could effect hundreds of articles. Back in 2008, Neilsen issued a DMCA Takedown Notice via OTRS ticket #2008091610055854, which wiped out their media market information from hundreds of pages. The MAJOR problem at hand Nielsen just bought Arbitron for $1.26 billion and with Arbitron issuing radio media market information, that DMCA Takedown Notice will carry over. We have to remove all Arbitron information from all pages ASAP per OTRS ticket #2008091610055854. Is there a bot available to do this? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:30, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Just an update: No response from legal or Philippe, but then again, it is only 6:13am in San Francisco (at Wikimedia World Headquarters), so that could be the reason there. I will keep an eye on it and let you all know.
If they do say the OTRS ticket will carry over, what should I do? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 14:14, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Not asking for any action, but I had to bring this to you as this was very irritating and I'll feel better getting it of my chest and not holding on to it. Admin User:Jc37 reverted a recent edit I made on BRD [6]. This was summarized only with links to the term "iteractive". I guess I am just an idiot for not knowing that the word itself was not a misspelling (when I added an n) and meant all of the contribution was worthless to the editor/admin. I don't see anything else wrong with the edit, so I have to wonder why they didn't just correct the error instead of becoming professor JC37 and removing all of the content. I suppose it is because they can. To me. that seemd like an un-necessary revert and I see it as edit warring. Again, not asking for action, but am I completely wrong here (not about the edit warring thing...thats just me opinion)? (also...I am not touching the page for a minimum of 24 hrs)-- Amadscientist ( talk) 13:12, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
and this edit - I agree, consensus is that the Phelps bunch doesn't get their WP mention. FYI, I am keeping an eye on the article and the talkpage...if this comes up again, I'll refer any adherents for including the 'news' (in advance of any actual newsworthy/notable Phelps events connected with Sandy Hook events) to the hatted discussion. Shearonink ( talk) 15:38, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
I don't wish to interrupt your #Sounding board discussion above (which I only just now noticed), but merely wanted to note that, should this require it (though for a single revert, I would hope that open discussion could resolve it), I welcome you as mediating this, as we both appear to respect your thoughts. - jc37 01:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I once said of Mr Stradivarius that he could charm the wool off sheep. Well - you're giving him a run for his money today. You've said quite a few kind things about me today and I just wanted to express that. (Though of course, you could just be buttering me up for future mediation : ) - jc37 03:28, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey Dennis, since you are an SPI clerk, could you give this SPI a look-see, please? It has been open since late on the 16th and hasn't been touched/looked at by any SPI clerks. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:34, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I keep an eye on the new articles pages to watch for North Carolina-related articles and found a curious issue. Don't really know where to go with this. Today, it looks like someone is creating a bunch of what I would call non-notable articles (which in and of itself isn't too big a problem). The articles are not well made (bad formatting, using WP:SYNTH and including a lot of extraneous info), but the main issue I have is that they are supposedly created by multiple users editing in exactly the same way. If it was just one user account, I could leave a message discussing the articles there. I think, however, these may be the same person using multiple accounts (they edit the same way and have much of the same info). However, if it is a class/student project, then I'd like to leave a message for the coordinator, giving them some info about how to edit on Wikipedia, but have no clue who that would be. Please look into the following articles and their users:
I guess I'd have to go through a group AfD for all of these if need be, but wanted to let you know of the bigger issue regarding the user(s) actions. Thank you! -- JoannaSerah ( talk) 19:52, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Yes, Thank you Shearonink. I didn't want to just start going through and deleting those because I did think that it was good faith effort, but the mass of added non-notable articles just struck me as odd. Thank you all for your help. -- JoannaSerah ( talk) 02:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Patience is appropriate. I do want to AGF and not scare them off. I just didn't want them to start going through and adding even more articles like that. The Articles for Creation process would have been more appropriate for this stuff. Thank you. -- JoannaSerah ( talk) 17:06, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
From the response that was posted to my 'Welcome and a question' query at Talk:JohnRobinson94, yes, our theory that these were part of some educational assignment is correct, all these articles were part of a final project for an English class. Drmies, I agree that Wikiversity might be an appropriate home for all the individual texts, other than userfying the content I think it is the only possible home among the various Wikimedia projects (in my opinion none of the article's subjects are notable enough to survive any type of WP notability review). I am unsure, though, as to who to contact about these FWP articles at Wikiversity or even how to contact an administrator/coordinator at that project, am hoping that someone here (like an admin-type?) could initiate some sort of contact with the instructor before we move or userfy any of the articles. Also, if we are considering the idea that all this content should perhaps be moved to Wikiversity, then that would have to probably be approved by someone on that side of the fence....I don't want to be perceived as just shoving things over the transom and hope they land without breaking...
Would it be possible to put some sort of pre-emptive notice on all these articles now that they are all part of a class assignment, maybe something from
Wikipedia:School and university projects? I'd like to keep the possible oncoming CSD/PRODs at bay until the instructor can be contacted. The work that these students did is actually quite good technically, some of these contributors would probably be an asset to WP, it's just a shame that the subjects they chose seem to be so non-notable. --
Shearonink (
talk)
21:41, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Any movement on this? A few of the articles have been PRODed. I have added a welcome message to the professor's talk page, but probably needs someone (admin, ambassador, etc.) to coordinate this better than I would, I think. -- JoannaSerah ( talk) 16:00, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
After a quick look I would say that these sound like they are within the scope of Wikiversity, although they will likely require some modification to be made useful there. I'll bring this to the attention of the community in our discussion forum. We have similar learning resources that were done as classwork such as v:The_Crafting_Freedom_Project. As an admin at en-wv I can transwiki copy any pages in danger of being deleted. Please use {{ Copy_to_Wikiversity}} to identify articles outside the scope of wp that are part of this project. I would suggest that you hold off on taking any action for about two weeks to given the instructor and students time to finish and evaluate the work for grades, so that this good faith effort is not unduly disrupted by a simple misunderstanding of wp guidelines. If the instructor's assignments are generally outside of the scope here, we would be happy to help set something up at wv to accommodate future class work. -- mikeu talk 19:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
I think they should be okay on WV as far as scope goes, but I'd be slightly worried about BLP-type issues (there aren't any policies in place to deal with that, and there aren't all that many people patrolling).
In case of emergency (things get speedied, etc.) tell them to get in touch with me on my talk: I have buttons in both places, so I can still import even after deletion. -- SB_Johnny | talk✌ 11:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
OK, I got a response from the instructor; see User talk:Cjr100B. Let me draw up what appears to be a consensus here (correct me if I'm wrong), before making a few notes to indicate why I think these articles don't meet our guidelines.
So, I see no option to conclude that, barring individual and extraordinary circumstances that lead to notability, these subjects are not notable, at least not without additional evidence from other sources than the project, sources which specifically discuss the subject. Moving them to Wikiversity is the best option. Drmies ( talk) 18:35, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
I have just found this discussion, after having nominated Della McCullers and Aunt Hassie Fletcher for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Della McCullers. I would be happy to withdraw the nomination if a better solution is found - were all these articles going to be moved? St Anselm ( talk) 00:50, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
WT:MMA#MMA_Event_Notability.
Kevlar (
talk)
18:45, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
I have some evidence of this. I don't like to get involved this deep but it is being used as a ploy against me. and I don't know where to present it. I see you seem to be involved in some of this. Help? Thanks. 174.118.142.187 ( talk) 20:37, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! I have gone through the process. I hope I didn't screw up the form too much. When did editing get this complicated? :) 174.118.142.187 ( talk) 21:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey Dennis, not too sure if you remember but a few months ago I was accused of being a sockpuppet for a user called BigzMMA, and that after confining in you and another admin I was eventually unblocked as it was proven that we are not the same user.
The reason I am writing to you now is that I have recently received what seems like a threatening message from a Mtking, telling me that "If you are [BigsMMA] then I wish to to give you one more chance to come clean and throw yourself at the mercy of the admins." He then said that he intends to reopen the SPI case that previously blocked me without any warnings or notifications. I'm not too sure how to react to this, so I simply replied to him to say that through you and the other admin, User:Steven Zhang, that it was proven that we (me and Bigzmma) could not be the same person, and that I will ask for your advice on how to handle the situation if he does reopen the SPI. I also asked that if he does if I could get the link for the discussion, as last time I was not even informed prior to being blocked.
Now as well as your advice on how to deal with the SPI if it happens, I wanted to ask for your opinion on whether he has taken the right moves also. From the way he written the message (can be seen on this link), it almost comes off as a threat, at least it does to me. If you get a chance to read it, can you tell me whether I should report it as a personal attack or something, I do feel unnerved by this message, and after last time, fear what will happen from here on. Thank you for your time. Pound4Pound ( talk) 14:03, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I just saw a thing on the travel channel talking about how Randy's Donuts came from 1950's American Car Culture. In addition to the large donut to be seen from the road, it has a drive thru. Ryan Vesey 15:33, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Yo DB, could you take a look at User talk:TyroneBiggums23? It's another one of MikeFromCanmore's socks, who's posting unblock requests (theoretically since his TPA and email was removed from his main account). I don't actually know why his email access was removed; Alison took it away as part of the Flyer22 thing, but didn't restore it when Flyer22 was found to be unrelated. Has Mike actually abused the email feature, and if he hasn't, is it worth restoring email access so he can send in a ticket to UTRS? Writ Keeper ⚇ ♔ 17:08, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
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I won't make my same edit again, but I'd like to turn it over to an uninvolved admin to watch. Harryzilber is understandably upset. When it comes to the issues of right and wrong, in a case where there probably is no right and wrong, people become emotionally involved. That's also why I'm stepping away from the talk page. My last edit was to remove what I perceived as a personal attack against me [10]. If you agree that it is a personal attack and it is restored, can you take care of it? I'll leave anything from now on. Ryan Vesey 19:56, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
I have given you all the barnstars [11]. Thanks for everything you've done to keep this place sane and all the help and advice you've given me. Ryan Vesey 21:49, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Dennis: Could you, or one of the other admins who read this page, take a look at this talk page? Basically, you've got an SPA with a major POV on the subject accusing people of being totalitarian and exhibiting serious IDHT behavior. Other editors seem to be fraying around the edges and the whole thing could use some calming down. (I'm involved to the very limited extent of suggesting that the SPA chill out and ratchet back the rhetoric. I haven't edited the article, although I did comment in the ongoing AfD.) The thread is here. Thanks. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 23:09, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
"gullible and foolhardy". pablo 23:24, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Bearian just used rollback for an edit that clearly wasn't vandalism [12]. It appeared to be a mistake so I undid it. It apparently wasn't. Bearian then full protected the page to avoid an edit conflict. (I'm assuming he'll be removing the full protection soon). I don't think he's intentionally being abusive, but I believe he momentarily had a lapse of judgement. Want to take care of it? Should it be taken care of? Ryan Vesey 23:52, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Conversely there really isn't that much difference between r/b and undo on a single edit, we can afford to be nice about people who do that. It's only when someone does amss rollback tha things go wrong.
Rich
Farmbrough,
04:27, 21 December 2012 (UTC).
Sorry for the drama.
Bearian (
talk)
00:34, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey Dennis, lately, I'm pretty bonked with real life and such. I'm going to reduce my editing until probably early January, if I feel up to it. I'll still be editing, just not as frequently as before. I'll try to catch up on the mentoring, however there is no guarantee. I hope you understand. -- LuK3 (Talk) 03:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
This is an interesting question [14] about whether it is even possible to do so for any/and all future sockpuppets of a user. Not just per policy but as a matter of tech. Could you take a moment if this is still active when you get up and the answer has not been given?-- Amadscientist ( talk) 08:29, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
I know you will agree with me. See User talk:SchuminWeb for details. No-one should be made to feel like that by other people here. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 10:32, 20 December 2012 (UTC)