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As a quick update to an earlier discussion here, I now see there's been under way for the last couple of years a WM project along these lines (of keeping a centralised citation db) called Shared Citations. — Guarapiranga ☎ 01:59, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
I'm seeing of lot of "Regular expression failures" but I don't see what's getting things flagged. Example:
!Regular expression failure in Jules de Cuverville when extracting Templates The following text might help you figure out where the error on the page is (Look for lone { and } characters)
# # # CITATION_BOT_PLACEHOLDER_TEMPLATE 2 # # #
Jules de Cuverville (28 July 1834 – 14 March 1912) was a French naval officer who rose to become Chief of Staff of the French Navy. He entered politics in later life, elected to the senate where between 1901 and 1912 he represented Finistère. [1]
Jules Marie Armand de Cuverville was born at Allineuc, a small village a short distance inland from Saint-Brieuc in Brittany. His father was Louis-Paul de Cuverville who represented the locality on the monarchist benches in the National Assembly between 1849 and 1853. Louis-Paul's family was descended from the lords of the manor at Maucomble in Normandy, some of whom had been Squires to French kings. Other kinsmen included sailors and naval officers, such as his grandfather, the Rear Admiral Louis-Hyacinthe Cavelier de Cuverville.
Jules Marie attended school at Saint Sauveur de Redon and the lycée in Rennes before entering naval college in 1850. He emerged in 1852 and participated at the Siege of Sevastopol (1854–55), where he was badly wounded. There were further missions in Africa and in the Crimea. He served in Algeria as deputy to Vice-admiral de Gueydon between 1871 and 1873. He was briefly given command of the avisos "Kleber" and "Cuvier" before being seconded to the diplomatic service, serving as naval attache at the French embassy in London during the middle 1870s. He then returned to France, serving aboard the Infernet as a commander with the South Atlantic Naval Division between 1875 and 1879, and promoted to the rank of ship's captain in 1878, taking command of a succession of training ships. He was promoted to the rank of rear admiral in 1888 and appointed a member of the Admiralty Council. Between 1890 and 1892 he served as head of the North Atlantic Naval division and was involved in the Pacification of Dahomey. [1]
He became a vice-admiral in 1893, and then Maritime Prefect for Cherbourg, a member of the Upper Admiralty Council, commander of the Reserve Mediterranean Squadron in 1897 and inspector-general of the marine in 1898. He was Chief of Staff of the French Navy between 1898 and 1899. [1]
Jules de Cuverville was elected to the senate on 31 March 1901 in a bye-election caused by the death of the previous incumbent, General Arsène Lambert, who had died. He was re-elected in the general election of 4 January 1903. He lost his seat to Maurice Fenoux by a narrow margin on 7 January 1912, however. [1]
Brittany, then as subsequently, was relatively conservative in religious terms, and during the summer of 1902 Jules de Cuverville was among those at Le Folgoët, vigorously opposing the closure of the school of the Daughters of the Holy Spirit, and the concomitant expulsion of the nuns there. The sisters had fallen foul of the anti-congragationist legislation which was part of the Paris-based government's determined pursuit of Laïcité (separation of secular and religious institutions). [2]
A friend and political ally of Jacques Piou, he joined the Popular Liberal Action (political party), [3] becoming one of its most passionate supporters. He was appointed a party vice-president in 1907. Deeply Catholic and steadfast in his commitment to the Third Republic, Admiral Count de Cuverville had two principal political priorities: defence of the church and support for the navy. [1]
Several months after losing his seat in the senate, Jules de Cuverville was crushed by a truck while crossing the street in Paris. He survived long enough to be taken to his home at 15, rue Dugay-Trouin, but died a few hours later. [4]
References
!Report this problem please about page Jules de Cuverville
>No changes required.
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Done with page. Abductive ( reasoning) 15:18, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
> The following text might help you figure out where the error on the page is (Look for lone { and } characters) > # # # CITATION_BOT_PLACEHOLDER_TEMPLATE 17 # # # # # # CITATION_BOT_PLACEHOLDER_TEMPLATE 18 # # # # # # CITATION_BOT_PLACEHOLDER_TEMPLATE 19 # # # # # # CITATION_BOT_PLACEHOLDER_TEMPLATE 23 # # # Mason ( talk)
{{
fixed}} Sorry,
AManWithNoPlan (
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15:24, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/50-people-to-watch-in-2022-the-best-young-talent-in-ireland-1.4757081|title=
→ <ref>{{Cite journal|url=https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/50-people-to-watch-in-2022-the-best-young-talent-in-ireland-1.4757081|title=
<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/50-people-to-watch-in-2022-the-best-young-talent-in-ireland-1.4757081|title=
→ <ref>{{Cite news|url=https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/50-people-to-watch-in-2022-the-best-young-talent-in-ireland-1.4757081|title=
All have PMCs set (or free DOIs), and thus should be overriden by autolinking.
Headbomb {
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!Unhandled write error. Please copy this output and report a bug
Unfixable. Although since it seems be more common, I might have the code sleep and try again.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
22:39, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Citation Bot adds page publication dates that are stated in the page's HTML metadata but not on the page itself.
For instance, the publication dates for just about every page on LeatherLicensePlates.com:
Is it legit to add these dates when they're not actually stated on the page itself, even if they *are* correct?
Klondike53226 ( talk) 00:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
The bot's still doing this - compare this edit to this source. That date being in the HTML isn't ironclad proof that that's truly the proper publishing date. I'm seeing that I'm the fourth person here to question this - is there a consensus somewhere that pulling these dates from the HTML is proper? Hog Farm Talk 22:20, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
|access-date=
and it never adds a |date=
that is newer than the |access-date=
.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:23, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
|chapter=
(and its aliases) is not supported by {{
cite journal}}
and {{
cite news}}
(also not supported in {{
cite magazine}}
and {{
cite web}}
)
i watch that error category and fix them by hand. almost universaly, the bot points out that the cite was broken to begin with. i will add code to log these pages.
AManWithNoPlan (
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11:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
Mostly {{ fixed}}, many will still require human interaction to clean-up. But they are now being logged to a file when they are found. The error category does not include Draft/sandboxes/etc AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 15:04, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
.se
to .com
, etc..
|publisher=Berghahn Books
.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
13:42, 1 August 2022 (UTC)This bot routinely causes CS1 errors - for example, [ this edit] caused the article to be listed at /info/en/?search=Category:CS1_maint:_numeric_names:_authors_list. It happens often, making unnecessary busywork to those of us who do CS1 maintenance. The bot should be modified so that it doesn't make any CS1 errors and cause pages to be listed at either /info/en/?search=Category:CS1_maintenance or /info/en/?search=Category:CS1_errors
Ira Leviton ( talk) 20:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
The bot has repeatedly changed the "cite web" to "cite journal" in this reference though it is clearly a web page and not a journal (<> and {} brackets removed so it shows here): cite web ref name=IOC12.1Gill, F.; Donsker, D.; Rasmussen, P. (July 2021). "IOC World Bird List (v 12.1)". doi: 10.14344/IOC.ML.11.2. Retrieved January 15, 2022. /ref . Craigthebirder ( talk) 17:45, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
I flagged 10.14344 as a non-journal DOI. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:01, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Your bot MUST be removed! You are damaging articles with no real benefit to balance that.
At Hezekiah (governor), this edit added data of little importance (doi, jstor, s2cid) since the URL is already indicated, while removing the very much essential page number and replacing it with incorrect or insufficient ones:
What really matters is the actual page the ref is citing. Some sources can't be fully accessed online, but the ref page can be. If one can indicate the start & finish pages, that can benefit some who do have access (subscribers, access to hard copies), but is not essential. The form "x-y [z]" is well accepted in academic publications and transparent enough for the user: "the article goes from x to y, but look up only z." I have also seen it as "x-y (z)". Now you have forced me to remove the start & end pages of the article, in order to preserve the relevant page number(s) I'm actually citing. What's far worse, elsewhere the intervention of the bot has most likely not been reverted and now the cited page is missing. Now you must go and manually fix all the damage already done.
The bot harms the user. We're far better off without it. Arminden ( talk) 06:17, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
|page=122–126 [125]
should be kept when converting to the proper |pages=
, yes. But |pages=8, 13
is definitely incorrect. Those are the pages of the preprint PDF, not the pages of the published book, which is what the reader [thus bot] is expecting.|at=
.
SamuelRiv (
talk)
18:06, 27 July 2022 (UTC){{cite web|author=
left untouched|anyparameter=
should be treated as empty, and removed.{{cite web|author=
was added in this
WP:REFLINKSedit
[9] to
Tony Oller, and I didn't spot the glitch before saving. I thought that CB would remove it
More generally, starting or ending with one.
AManWithNoPlan (
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11:27, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
There's not even an ISBN anywhere in the article!
Headbomb {
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23:14, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
I've looked everywhere for a stray bracket, and I just can't find what the issue is.
Headbomb {
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23:04, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
The doi prefix 10.4249 is for Scholarpedia, and all those DOIs will be freely accessible. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 11:11, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Fixed once deployed.
AManWithNoPlan (
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12:32, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Please see publishers page (linked via DOI for 2nd edition) and the MR review for first edition.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:07, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Nor is the cited source a journal...
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 22:05, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Fixed the wiki-problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_new_religious_movements&type=revision&diff=1103126764&oldid=1102985631 BUT a topic expert needs to look over and probably double check.
AManWithNoPlan (
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12:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
{{cite news | url=https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-62419765 | title=Леонид Кучма: "Путин хотел уничтожить Украину, а получит наше второе рождение" | newspaper=BBC News Русская Служба }}
|work=
: {{cite news | url=https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-62419765 | title=Леонид Кучма: "Путин хотел уничтожить Украину, а получит наше второе рождение" | work=BBC News Русская Служба }}
Yeah, only a minor thing. I am mostly puzzled about how the bot came to do this, because it's so odd that it suggests the possibility of a wider glitch in how the bot decides that a URL is that of a newspaper. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 05:36, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
It is Citoid: [ { "key": "4HM5G9UK", "version": 0, "itemType": "newspaperArticle", "creators": [], "tags": [ { "tag": "Война России с Украиной", "type": 1 }, { "tag": "Украина", "type": 1 } ], "title": "Леонид Кучма: \"Путин хотел уничтожить Украину, а получит наше второе рождение\"", "publicationTitle": "BBC News Русская служба", "url": "https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-62419765", "abstractNote": "Экс-президент Украины Леонид Кучма встретил российское вторжение у себя дома в Киеве и уезжать не захотел. BBC News Украина удалось взять у него первое и пока единственное интервью за время войны.", "language": "ru", "libraryCatalog": "www.bbc.com", "accessDate": "2022-08-08", "shortTitle": "Леонид Кучма" } ]
Hi bot i give you a barnstar 😁 Einahr ( talk) 11:23, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
|url-status=dead
?
Sideswipe9th (
talk)
01:01, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
|url-status=live
|url-status=unfit
or |url-status=usurped
suppresses display of the original URL (but |url=
and |archive-url=
are still required).|url-status=dead
is assumed and the resulting main link is to the archived version:|url-status=dead
.Could not resolve URL
http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/73final/4515/4515pro_012.html#basic_arch_sect
Just a heads up that my little handy dandy guide on Citation bot finally got in the Signpost, as intended years ago. Feel free to leave a comment (or make suggestions for other guides on different topics). Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 20:04, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
The RFC has been closed [14] by @ ScottishFinnishRadish:
There is a strong consensus for Citation bot to use {{ cite news}} and {{ cite magazine}} in cases where online content doesn't appear in a print edition of a publication.
It is helpful to have this community endorsement of Citation bot's good work. This outcome was clearly foreseeable, but it is a relief that the saga is finally over.
However, I remain very sad that so much time and effort was spent in resolving the complaints of the 12 Angry Marvelites who created the drama. Their refusal to listen to more experienced editors led to this vast time-sink, and their aggressive rudeness poisoned the atmosphere. I hope that the 12 Angry Marvelites will reflect on their conduct, and pursue andy further concerns without the groupthink and assumptions of bad faith which characterised their approach to this issue.
And thanks to @ Sideswipe9th for their hard work in preparing the RFC. I wish that the RFC had not been needed, but when the 12 Angry Marvelites refused to listen, it was the only way to end the drama. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 07:35, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
it was not civil for Indagate to waste the time of other editors by a silly claim that 9 to 8 amounted to a consensus for their view– 9 to 8? Really? Unless my counting is significantly off, the participants of the prior discussion were pretty evenly split. If it really were 9 to 8 I wouldn't have called for an RfC, because consensus would have been clear in that case.
The edit at Aberration_(astronomy) changed the pages= entry to the issue number (e.g., A91), removing the page range (e.g. 1-6) of the article. This happened several times. I recently corrected the pages= entries.
|page=
and how people cite these journals. There are no issue numbers for those.
Headbomb {
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17:07, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
|page=
, |pages=
, and |at=
are not the right place for an article number. cs1|2 does not have any support for article numbers. I think that there has been some discussion at
Help talk:Citation Style 1 but never to the point of action. Quite often I see article numbers in |number=
(an alias of |issue=
) which, really, is also incorrect. I suppose that if you must include an article number |number=
is the best place for it pending some decision to add support for article numbers – but don't be surprised when someone like me comes along and removes it.|id=
parameter. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
22:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
|id=
is for bibliographic identifiers like {{
Zbl}} etc... (when there aren't nativaly supported), not the article number. |page=
is perfectly fine for it, thought if you want to be an überpedant, |at=
is probably what you're looking for.
Headbomb {
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22:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
|at=
. I'm trying to find a parameter which would not be misused. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
23:33, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
|id=
for press release numbers but reading this I think that may have been wrong. Perhaps I should have been using |number=
instead, but there is no documentation to support this.
Hawkeye7
(discuss)
01:26, 1 August 2022 (UTC)|page=A9 [17]
if you want to refer to a specific page/page range.
Headbomb {
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|pages=A9:1–A9:17
. That's how they're numbered by
LIPIcs (an open-access publisher of many computer science conference proceedings), for instance. —
David Eppstein (
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07:22, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Instead of modifying Google books URLs, use the
GBurl template where the search parameters are encompassed by the template. This change may need an RFC. Possibly the
Citer tool (python) may provide more documentation on the parameters of the Query part of the URL, for which there doesn't seem to be easily findable documentation.
In *Template.php:expand_by_google_books_inner* the current code doesn't seem to cope with the munged title now being part of the
string, so that may be worth enhancing.
if (preg_match("~^https?://www\.google\.(?:[^\./]+)/books/edition/_/(.+)$~", $url, $matches)) {
Here's some perl snippets since I'm not PHP literate.
use URI; use URI::Split qw(uri_split uri_join); LINE: while (<>) { chomp; next if /^$/; if (/^\s*#/) { print $_, "\n"; next; } my($uri) = URI->new($_); my($sch, $aut, $pth, $qry, $frg) = uri_split($uri); if (defined($sch) && ($sch eq 'http' || $sch eq 'https') && defined($aut) && defined($pth)) { my($template); substr($aut, -3, 3) = '' if substr($aut, -3) eq ':80'; ... if ($aut =~ /^www\.google\.c(?:a|o(?:m|m\.au|\.uk|\.in))$/ && $pth =~ m|^/books/edition/[^/]+/([-A-Za-z0-9_]{12})$|) { my($gb_arg) = $1; foreach my $gb_restrict (split('&', $qry)) { if ($gb_restrict =~ /^(pg|dq)=/) { if (substr($gb_restrict, 0, 5) eq 'pg=PA') { $gb_arg .= '|p=' . substr($gb_restrict, 5); } else { $gb_arg .= '|' . $gb_restrict; } } elsif ($gb_restrict =~ /^bsq=(.+)/) { $gb_arg .= '|dq=' . $1; } # Safe to skip: hl= (Normally en), gbpv= # printsec= - skip only if there's a pg= # Shouldn't convert if there's anything else? } $template = "{{GBurl|$gb_arg}}"; } --- Example URLs https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/D%C3%BCsenj%C3%A4ger/r_cuAAAACAAJ?hl=en https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/%EC%8A%A4%ED%83%80%ED%83%80%EC%9D%B4%EB%93%9C_%EB%9D%BC%EC%9D%B4%EC%A7%95_2_%EC%96%91%EC%9E%A5%EB%B3%B8_Ha/Cn_9jgEACAAJ?hl=en https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Machiavelli_The_Prince/05R7kYOKD0cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Cambridge%2520University&pg=PT12&printsec=frontcover https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Machiavelli_The_Prince/05R7kYOKD0cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR4&printsec=frontcover&dq=Cambridge https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Machiavelli_The_Prince/05R7kYOKD0cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT12&printsec=frontcover&dq=Cambridge%20University https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/The_Existential_Graphs_of_Charles_S_Peir/Q4K30wCAf-gC?hl=en&gbpv=0 https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/The_Existential_Graphs_of_Charles_S_Peir/Q4K30wCAf-gC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcoverG https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/The_Golden_Enclaves/7kRYEAAAQBAJ?hl=en https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/When_Computers_Went_to_Sea/Mi8MhzheOokC?hl=en&gbpv=0 https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/When_Computers_Went_to_Sea/Mi8MhzheOokC?hl=en&gbpv=0 https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Conflict_and_Conquest_in_the_Islamic_Wor/jBBYD2J2oE4C?hl=en&gbpv=1 https://www.google.com/books/edition/Playwriting_for_Profit/jhwLAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22show%20not%20tell%22 https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/A-c7AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA419&dq=%27Barnstead%20charter%27 Provincial https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Provincial_and_State_Papers/A-c7AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq='Barnstead%20charter'%20Provincial&pg=PA419&printsec=frontcover https://www.google.ca/books/edition/Principes_d_exp%C3%A9ditive_fran%C3%A7aise_pour/FgVJ55_weywC?&gbpv=0 {{GBurl|r_cuAAAACAAJ}} {{GBurl|Cn_9jgEACAAJ}} {{GBurl|05R7kYOKD0cC|dq=Cambridge%2520University|pg=PT12}} {{GBurl|05R7kYOKD0cC|pg=PR4|dq=Cambridge}} {{GBurl|05R7kYOKD0cC|pg=PT12|dq=Cambridge%20University}} {{GBurl|Q4K30wCAf-gC}} {{GBurl|Q4K30wCAf-gC|p=113}} {{GBurl|7kRYEAAAQBAJ}} {{GBurl|Mi8MhzheOokC}} {{GBurl|Mi8MhzheOokC}} {{GBurl|jBBYD2J2oE4C}} {{GBurl|jhwLAAAAMAAJ|dq=%22show%20not%20tell%22}} {{GBurl|A-c7AAAAIAAJ|p=419|dq=%27Barnstead%20charter%27%20Provincial}} {{GBurl|A-c7AAAAIAAJ|dq='Barnstead%20charter'%20Provincial|p=419}} {{GBurl|FgVJ55_weywC}}
No, this is a bad idea, especially for a bot. -- Izno ( talk) 01:53, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
|postscript=
parameter in {{
cite journal}} and {{
cite web}}
This was
marked as fixed in February 2020 – either that was in error or it's subsequently been broken again. –
Arms & Hearts (
talk)
16:45, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
|postscript=
specifies the citation's terminal character. For cs1 templates, the default character is a dot; for cs2 templates, the default is no terminal punctuation. When the value assigned to |postscript=
has more than one character,
Module:Citation/CS1 emits a CS1 maint: postscript message and adds the article to
Category:CS1 maint: postscript. At
Whites, Jews, and Us § External links, both cs1 templates have |postscript= –
which Module:Citation/CS1 sees as 7 characters. The exception to this one-character limit is the keyword none
which suppresses the normal cs1 terminal dot (not allowed in cs2 templates because redundant). Consider writing:
{{cite ... |postscript=none}} – <descriptive text>
{{citation ... }} – <descriptive text>
Additional text, or templates that render more than a single terminating punctuation character, will generate a maintenance message, but that doesn't seem to have happened here. – Arms & Hearts ( talk) 12:17, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
[removed] a necessary non-breaking spaceyet in this edit you did the same thing?
{{
spaced ndash}}
or {{
snd}}
or –
)
This has been discussed in the past, and there was a very strong agreement that adding these was a good idea. The DOI can be found via google, etc. and that makes it a useful identifier, even if broken. Also, it encourages people to report and get them fixed. Note that the dx.doi.org reporting method does not necessarily work often, since the DOI might be owned by a different company than the journal owner. I have actually reached out to various publishers and gotten many of them fixed.
AManWithNoPlan (
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13:08, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Will do, if not book, and if no existing |date=
, and id year matches any existing |year=
. Now to right the code, and unit tests.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
11:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
|volume=
parameter, and not |title=
.{{
cite magazine}}
: CS1 maint: date and year (
link)|year=
if you add |date=
in this case.
Izno (
talk)
05:15, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
The vast majority of those are functional if you remove the second slash.
Citation bot should attempt to cleanup these DOIs. Remove the slash, if still active, it's a good fix. If it doesn't resolve, bad fix and keep the original DOI. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 13:28, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
I will look into doing that. I have run across at least one DOI where the first character in the suffix is a slash. Absolutely nuts.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:47, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
The
site in question seems to have some kind of browser validation. Perhaps it doesn't like Citation bot and directs it to a different page than normal users.
Jc3s5h (
talk)
15:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Is it possible to add ghostarchive.org and archive.ph alongside the current website/(s) this bot uses? Jenkowelten ( talk) 08:35, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
|script-title=
was not noticed and so a title was added, but then it was removed for being basically the same.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
23:11, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
References
Whether to link a work is a page-specific choice. As for work versus newspaper, |work=
is (effectively) an alias of the other without possibly mis-stating what the value of the parameter actually is. In CS1, it is sufficient. (In CS2, it would require a bit more work than to use |work=
in general.) --
Izno (
talk)
04:14, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Whether to link a work is a page-specific choice.
Citations stand alone in their usage, so there is no problem with repeating the same link in many citations within an article; e.g. |work=The Guardian
.
However, this is in the overall context of "don't make duplicate links", so editors should have local control over which works to link in citations, and whether to link them in multiple or not at all.
Izno (
talk)
06:01, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
editors should have local control over which works to link in citations
I didn't suggest changing existing citations, just simply linking the source (in the RS sense of source, not the actual cited work), when generating a new one. Whether this should be included in a requested run, is another question. I'd say yes, if there are other improvements, similarly to what the bot does renaming parameters (fromEditors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style merely on the grounds of personal preference
|first=
and |last=
to |first1=
and |last1=
, for example). —
Guarapiranga
☎
03:41, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Same for Foobar / The Foobar. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 20:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
|archive-url|https://web.archive.org/web/20041022022448/http://www.constancedemby.com/spain_f.html
→ |archive-url
|archive-url|
with |archive-url=
Yes, this is
GIGO, and this sort of junk is tricky to handle. But I think that it might be possible to fix this particular piece garbage rather than making things worse. --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs)
10:59, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
|archive-date=
without an |archive-url=
is not reported as a CS1 error.
User-duck (
talk)
12:54, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
About 200 new entries appeared in
Category:CS1 errors: invisible characters. This is an example:
International Young Design Entrepreneur of the Year
It apparently occurred with this edit: " curprev 23:03, August 19, 2022 Citation bot talk contribs 22,440 bytes +778 Alter: title. | Use this bot. Report bugs. | Suggested by BrownHairedGirl | #UCB_webform 2196/3663 undo ". — Preceding unsigned comment added by User-duck ( talk • contribs)
There are over 300 articles in the category now, I have been fixing CS1 errors for some time now. This is the first time I have seen so many new articles in this category so I knew it was the result of a bot run. Either the bot has changed or the input to the bot is garbage. User-duck ( talk) 12:44, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Ah -- my browser runs with NoScript enabled. The bot would not work until I enabled Javascript from
citations.toolforge.org to run in my browser. After I enabled that in NoScript, it worked. This was not obvious from the documentation of how to enable CitationBot.
Gnuish (
talk)
22:39, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello. I've noticed that the bot adds titles like ??????? ???? ??? when fetching Hebrew source titles (e.g. this). Not sure if this is a fault specific to Hebrew, but seen it on a few articles. Cheers, Number 5 7 20:53, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
|url=
and in |title=
is a ve issue that has been reported at
T310892 but given the overwhelming non-response, I'm skeptical that it will ever be fixed...{{Cite web|url=https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/893110747991093250|access-date=2021-08-24|website=Twitter|language=en|archive-date=2021-08-24|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210824174254/https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/893110747991093250|url-status=live|title=Matthew Green Twitterren: "The pragmatist in me says "who cares, this will obviously work better if it has a few big nodes". The cypherpunk in me says "F that".… HTTPS://T.co/KOZNOLgyKk" }}
{{
cite web}}
: External link in |title=
(
help){{Cite web|url=https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/893110747991093250|access-date=2021-08-24|website=Twitter|language=en|archive-date=2021-08-24|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210824174254/https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/893110747991093250|url-status=live|author=Matthew Green |title=The pragmatist in me says "who cares, this will obviously work better if it has a few big nodes". The cypherpunk in me says "F that".}}
{{
cite tweet}}
. (isn't there a bot that already converts {{
cite web}}
to {{cite tweet}}
?)
Apparently Citation bot can get the author and the tweet so why didn't it use separate parameters |author=Matthew Green
and |title=The pragmatist in me says ...
? And where did … HTTPS://T.co/KOZNOLgyKk
come from? That shortened url isn't part of the original or the archived tweets – the url doesn't point to anything of value (unless a poodle in a chair has value...). It is interesting to me that the author text in |title=
has the non-English 'Twitterren' (Google translate thinks that it's Basque for 'on Twitter' which is what I normally see: |title=Matthew Green on Twitter: "The pragmatist in me says..."
. This odd use of 'Twitterren' is what provoked me to investigate the history of this citation.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 15:30, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
|id=
params leaving the field with broken params |id=.
.|id=
params. I don't think there is reason to do this in any case but certainly not in this case.
The bot should treat |url=
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6077754/
the same ay as |url=
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6077754/
I.e. remove it from a {{
cite journal}} if |pmc=6077754
is already present.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
04:59, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Fixed
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
15:36, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Any bibcode that starts with ####arXiv... should be updated when possible. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 13:05, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
The original citation at
[25] incorrectly uses a left single quotation mark U+2018 where okina U+02BB was intended. This was corrected when the citation was added to the article. The bot should have left this alone.
GA-RT-22 (
talk)
21:44, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Not a bug. See the
template documentation.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 23:03, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
I agree with Trappist. In these cases, the news agency is acting as a publisher rather than as an agency. Neutral on whether to use |work=
or |publisher=
. --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs)
13:03, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
|work=AP News
or |work=Associated Press News
. That is the name they give to that part of their site, that is, the work. It is incorrect to list |work=AP
|work=Associated Press
|publisher=
or |agency=
instead. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
19:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
You need to look more closely at the edits.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
20:42, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
<title>...</title>
, but the bot should never add a title with a url to |title=
in a cs1|2 template. Further, if a 'title' contains pipe characters (or any of its html equivalents) the bot should probably not use whatever it found in <title>...</title>
because most of those things between pipes are not the title.
My category run (
Category:Genes on human chromosome X) stalled at 11:54 this morning after
this edit to item 218 of 542,
Collagen, type IV, alpha 5. Around 15:10, I tried to kill the stalled job with
https://citations.toolforge.org/kill_big_job.php, which responded with Existing large job flagged for stopping
, but, as of now, nearly an hour and a half later, my attempts to start a new category run are still throwing up Run blocked by your existing big run.
.
Whoop whoop pull up
Bitching Betty ⚧️
Averted crashes
21:39, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Fixed both hung job and what killed it.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
16:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Another one of my category runs's stalled (
Category:Corrosion inhibitors this time), having made
this edit to
Benzotriazole (item 26 of 32); the reason I know it's stalled rather than simply having finished running through that category is that, when I attempted to start a new category run, it threw up Run blocked by your existing big run.
, which it continued to do even after I tried to kill the stalled job with
https://citations.toolforge.org/kill_big_job.php (which obligingly came back with Existing large job flagged for stopping
).
Whoop whoop pull up
Bitching Betty ⚧️
Averted crashes
19:36, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
@ AManWithNoPlan: Sorry to pester you, but I'm still being locked out of starting a new run most of a day later. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 12:12, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Fixed
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:43, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Why does it change {{cite web |via=NYTimes.com}}
to {{cite news |newspaper=The New York Times}}
but not {{cite news |via=NYTimes.com}}
to {{cite news |newspaper=The New York Times}}
or am I missing something?
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
22:07, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
|via=
when |work=
had content.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
17:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC){{ fixed}} AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 19:46, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
{{
Better source needed}}
when you created the article. That template adds
Category:Articles lacking reliable references (see info at the top of the category page).The bot added doi: 10.1038/186211a0 bibcode = 1960Natur.186Q.211. to the
But the Nature article (the doi) is only the review of the real article (the url) -- Stone ( talk) 08:54, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
|agency=Reuters
is incorrect. However, turning it into |work=Reuters
is also incorrect. The name of the work is not "Reuters". I think that the correct parameters for this citation would be |work=Reuters Graphics
and/or |publisher=Reuters
. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
00:20, 21 September 2022 (UTC)|work=
is always italicized, and should be. If Reuters (the company) published this content on a site (work) whose name was also "Reuters", then italicizing it as the name of a work would be correct. The only problem here is that the name of the site is not "Reuters" but instead "Reuters Graphics". —
David Eppstein (
talk)
00:59, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
|work=
. In this specific case, at the bottom of the source is this:
|work=Reuters Graphics
is more correct than |work=Reuters
. Use |agency=Reuters
when Reuters licences another corporate entity to publish a Reuters article in the 'other corporate entity's' work (commonly a newspaper, or other news source). Example: Reuters grants a licence to
The New York Times Company to publish a Reuters article in
The New York Times so: |agency=Reuters
|newspaper=The New York Times
. |agency=
should never be used in the absence of |work=
(or an alias) – I wonder if cs1|2 should enforce that; it might reduce the number of occasions that this topic must be discussed...{{
cite journal}}
, {{
cite magazine}}
, {{
cite news}}
, {{
cite web}}
) |publisher=
should be omitted most of the time. Do not use |publisher=Reuters
to avoid italicizing 'Reuters'.|publisher=
in periodical metadata and no support for |agency=
at all. |agency=
is only rendered in the visual. Those who consume cs1|2 citations through the metadata have no idea where an article comes from if that information is not included in the correct cs1|2 parameter (|work=
or an alias). Do not deprive those consumers of this essential information.Thanks for the help.😁 Hamsterbird ( talk) 01:01, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
This would not generally be a good solution to the error noted. --
Izno (
talk)
01:14, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
That was me, not the bot. I didn't see harv in the notes or refs and forgot to check in the text.
RDBrown (
talk)
12:41, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
The bot should only report "Formatted dashes" if the dashes it is formatting were already in place. It shouldn't report this for dashes it added. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
18:35, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
Earlier this afternoon I ran the bot on several small categories, all now complete. However hours later when I try to run it on a new category I just get "Run blocked by your existing big run." with no explanation as to what that is when the run should have completed ages ago.
Timrollpickering (
talk)
18:48, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
that is really odd. the original character is a single quote - spanish style.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
11:28, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Strange error, in this edit Zehnder's first paper was marked with year 2010, even though it is from 1975. Gumshoe2 ( talk) 01:11, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
https://search.crossref.org/?from_ui=&q=10.1002%2Fcpa.3160280104 AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 11:19, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
|format=PDF
parameter is being removed unnecessarily from references using the {{
Cite book}} template.
Incidentally, it also says it upgraded an ISBN10 to 13 but all it did was add dashes to an ISBN13. --
Izno (
talk)
19:30, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
|format=PDF
is correct, as the cite template now knows to display the PDF sign regardless. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
21:01, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
|format=PDF
displays to everyone, whereas the icon is not available to all users.
Izno (
talk)
21:07, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
10.1210/jendso/
* should be marked as |doi-access=free
.
Example: |doi=10.1210/jendso/bvab049
.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
19:26, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
|title=Archived copy
with text that contains a url|url=
, |chapter-url=
, etc); pretty sure that I've made this point before...
Another instance
Special:Diff/1114768642 "journal=Includes:reports from Commissioners, Inspectors and Others"
jnestorius(
talk)
06:26, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
On 23 September 2022, on
Partridge (1814 ship) the Citation Bot ignored the parameter url=, which had a fully functional URL in it, and added hdl= , with a url. The result was that the citation displayed both with the clickable icon for a url, and the full, redundant hdl= url. I had fixed this untidy semiduplication before, but apparently to no avail. Clearly the bot is ignoring the url parameter, even when it is populated. Can this be fixed? Regards,
Acad Ronin (
talk)
16:58, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
I haven't been able to use the bot in a while, apparently there's a big run done for me, but I can't seem to kill it or find what edit it's wanting to do. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 02:00, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
|p=
changes should have been to |pages=
. --
Izno (
talk)
20:24, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
|chapter=
to {{
cite journal}}
. |chapter=
and alias parameters are not supported by: {{
cite arxiv}}
, {{
cite biorxiv}}
, {{
cite citeseerx}}
, {{
cite journal}}
, {{
cite magazine}}
, {{
cite news}}
, {{
cite newsgroup}}
, {{
cite podcast}}
, {{
cite press release}}
, {{
cite ssrn}}
, {{
cite web}}
.
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As a quick update to an earlier discussion here, I now see there's been under way for the last couple of years a WM project along these lines (of keeping a centralised citation db) called Shared Citations. — Guarapiranga ☎ 01:59, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
I'm seeing of lot of "Regular expression failures" but I don't see what's getting things flagged. Example:
!Regular expression failure in Jules de Cuverville when extracting Templates The following text might help you figure out where the error on the page is (Look for lone { and } characters)
# # # CITATION_BOT_PLACEHOLDER_TEMPLATE 2 # # #
Jules de Cuverville (28 July 1834 – 14 March 1912) was a French naval officer who rose to become Chief of Staff of the French Navy. He entered politics in later life, elected to the senate where between 1901 and 1912 he represented Finistère. [1]
Jules Marie Armand de Cuverville was born at Allineuc, a small village a short distance inland from Saint-Brieuc in Brittany. His father was Louis-Paul de Cuverville who represented the locality on the monarchist benches in the National Assembly between 1849 and 1853. Louis-Paul's family was descended from the lords of the manor at Maucomble in Normandy, some of whom had been Squires to French kings. Other kinsmen included sailors and naval officers, such as his grandfather, the Rear Admiral Louis-Hyacinthe Cavelier de Cuverville.
Jules Marie attended school at Saint Sauveur de Redon and the lycée in Rennes before entering naval college in 1850. He emerged in 1852 and participated at the Siege of Sevastopol (1854–55), where he was badly wounded. There were further missions in Africa and in the Crimea. He served in Algeria as deputy to Vice-admiral de Gueydon between 1871 and 1873. He was briefly given command of the avisos "Kleber" and "Cuvier" before being seconded to the diplomatic service, serving as naval attache at the French embassy in London during the middle 1870s. He then returned to France, serving aboard the Infernet as a commander with the South Atlantic Naval Division between 1875 and 1879, and promoted to the rank of ship's captain in 1878, taking command of a succession of training ships. He was promoted to the rank of rear admiral in 1888 and appointed a member of the Admiralty Council. Between 1890 and 1892 he served as head of the North Atlantic Naval division and was involved in the Pacification of Dahomey. [1]
He became a vice-admiral in 1893, and then Maritime Prefect for Cherbourg, a member of the Upper Admiralty Council, commander of the Reserve Mediterranean Squadron in 1897 and inspector-general of the marine in 1898. He was Chief of Staff of the French Navy between 1898 and 1899. [1]
Jules de Cuverville was elected to the senate on 31 March 1901 in a bye-election caused by the death of the previous incumbent, General Arsène Lambert, who had died. He was re-elected in the general election of 4 January 1903. He lost his seat to Maurice Fenoux by a narrow margin on 7 January 1912, however. [1]
Brittany, then as subsequently, was relatively conservative in religious terms, and during the summer of 1902 Jules de Cuverville was among those at Le Folgoët, vigorously opposing the closure of the school of the Daughters of the Holy Spirit, and the concomitant expulsion of the nuns there. The sisters had fallen foul of the anti-congragationist legislation which was part of the Paris-based government's determined pursuit of Laïcité (separation of secular and religious institutions). [2]
A friend and political ally of Jacques Piou, he joined the Popular Liberal Action (political party), [3] becoming one of its most passionate supporters. He was appointed a party vice-president in 1907. Deeply Catholic and steadfast in his commitment to the Third Republic, Admiral Count de Cuverville had two principal political priorities: defence of the church and support for the navy. [1]
Several months after losing his seat in the senate, Jules de Cuverville was crushed by a truck while crossing the street in Paris. He survived long enough to be taken to his home at 15, rue Dugay-Trouin, but died a few hours later. [4]
References
!Report this problem please about page Jules de Cuverville
>No changes required.
# # #
Done with page. Abductive ( reasoning) 15:18, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
> The following text might help you figure out where the error on the page is (Look for lone { and } characters) > # # # CITATION_BOT_PLACEHOLDER_TEMPLATE 17 # # # # # # CITATION_BOT_PLACEHOLDER_TEMPLATE 18 # # # # # # CITATION_BOT_PLACEHOLDER_TEMPLATE 19 # # # # # # CITATION_BOT_PLACEHOLDER_TEMPLATE 23 # # # Mason ( talk)
{{
fixed}} Sorry,
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
15:24, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/50-people-to-watch-in-2022-the-best-young-talent-in-ireland-1.4757081|title=
→ <ref>{{Cite journal|url=https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/50-people-to-watch-in-2022-the-best-young-talent-in-ireland-1.4757081|title=
<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/50-people-to-watch-in-2022-the-best-young-talent-in-ireland-1.4757081|title=
→ <ref>{{Cite news|url=https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/50-people-to-watch-in-2022-the-best-young-talent-in-ireland-1.4757081|title=
All have PMCs set (or free DOIs), and thus should be overriden by autolinking.
Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b}
01:58, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
!Unhandled write error. Please copy this output and report a bug
Unfixable. Although since it seems be more common, I might have the code sleep and try again.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
22:39, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Citation Bot adds page publication dates that are stated in the page's HTML metadata but not on the page itself.
For instance, the publication dates for just about every page on LeatherLicensePlates.com:
Is it legit to add these dates when they're not actually stated on the page itself, even if they *are* correct?
Klondike53226 ( talk) 00:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
The bot's still doing this - compare this edit to this source. That date being in the HTML isn't ironclad proof that that's truly the proper publishing date. I'm seeing that I'm the fourth person here to question this - is there a consensus somewhere that pulling these dates from the HTML is proper? Hog Farm Talk 22:20, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
|access-date=
and it never adds a |date=
that is newer than the |access-date=
.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:23, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
|chapter=
(and its aliases) is not supported by {{
cite journal}}
and {{
cite news}}
(also not supported in {{
cite magazine}}
and {{
cite web}}
)
i watch that error category and fix them by hand. almost universaly, the bot points out that the cite was broken to begin with. i will add code to log these pages.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
11:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
Mostly {{ fixed}}, many will still require human interaction to clean-up. But they are now being logged to a file when they are found. The error category does not include Draft/sandboxes/etc AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 15:04, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
.se
to .com
, etc..
|publisher=Berghahn Books
.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
13:42, 1 August 2022 (UTC)This bot routinely causes CS1 errors - for example, [ this edit] caused the article to be listed at /info/en/?search=Category:CS1_maint:_numeric_names:_authors_list. It happens often, making unnecessary busywork to those of us who do CS1 maintenance. The bot should be modified so that it doesn't make any CS1 errors and cause pages to be listed at either /info/en/?search=Category:CS1_maintenance or /info/en/?search=Category:CS1_errors
Ira Leviton ( talk) 20:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
The bot has repeatedly changed the "cite web" to "cite journal" in this reference though it is clearly a web page and not a journal (<> and {} brackets removed so it shows here): cite web ref name=IOC12.1Gill, F.; Donsker, D.; Rasmussen, P. (July 2021). "IOC World Bird List (v 12.1)". doi: 10.14344/IOC.ML.11.2. Retrieved January 15, 2022. /ref . Craigthebirder ( talk) 17:45, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
I flagged 10.14344 as a non-journal DOI. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:01, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Your bot MUST be removed! You are damaging articles with no real benefit to balance that.
At Hezekiah (governor), this edit added data of little importance (doi, jstor, s2cid) since the URL is already indicated, while removing the very much essential page number and replacing it with incorrect or insufficient ones:
What really matters is the actual page the ref is citing. Some sources can't be fully accessed online, but the ref page can be. If one can indicate the start & finish pages, that can benefit some who do have access (subscribers, access to hard copies), but is not essential. The form "x-y [z]" is well accepted in academic publications and transparent enough for the user: "the article goes from x to y, but look up only z." I have also seen it as "x-y (z)". Now you have forced me to remove the start & end pages of the article, in order to preserve the relevant page number(s) I'm actually citing. What's far worse, elsewhere the intervention of the bot has most likely not been reverted and now the cited page is missing. Now you must go and manually fix all the damage already done.
The bot harms the user. We're far better off without it. Arminden ( talk) 06:17, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
|page=122–126 [125]
should be kept when converting to the proper |pages=
, yes. But |pages=8, 13
is definitely incorrect. Those are the pages of the preprint PDF, not the pages of the published book, which is what the reader [thus bot] is expecting.|at=
.
SamuelRiv (
talk)
18:06, 27 July 2022 (UTC){{cite web|author=
left untouched|anyparameter=
should be treated as empty, and removed.{{cite web|author=
was added in this
WP:REFLINKSedit
[9] to
Tony Oller, and I didn't spot the glitch before saving. I thought that CB would remove it
More generally, starting or ending with one.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
11:27, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
There's not even an ISBN anywhere in the article!
Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b}
23:14, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
I've looked everywhere for a stray bracket, and I just can't find what the issue is.
Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b}
23:04, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
The doi prefix 10.4249 is for Scholarpedia, and all those DOIs will be freely accessible. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 11:11, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Fixed once deployed.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
12:32, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Please see publishers page (linked via DOI for 2nd edition) and the MR review for first edition.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:07, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Nor is the cited source a journal...
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 22:05, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Fixed the wiki-problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=List_of_new_religious_movements&type=revision&diff=1103126764&oldid=1102985631 BUT a topic expert needs to look over and probably double check.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
12:13, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
{{cite news | url=https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-62419765 | title=Леонид Кучма: "Путин хотел уничтожить Украину, а получит наше второе рождение" | newspaper=BBC News Русская Служба }}
|work=
: {{cite news | url=https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-62419765 | title=Леонид Кучма: "Путин хотел уничтожить Украину, а получит наше второе рождение" | work=BBC News Русская Служба }}
Yeah, only a minor thing. I am mostly puzzled about how the bot came to do this, because it's so odd that it suggests the possibility of a wider glitch in how the bot decides that a URL is that of a newspaper. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 05:36, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
It is Citoid: [ { "key": "4HM5G9UK", "version": 0, "itemType": "newspaperArticle", "creators": [], "tags": [ { "tag": "Война России с Украиной", "type": 1 }, { "tag": "Украина", "type": 1 } ], "title": "Леонид Кучма: \"Путин хотел уничтожить Украину, а получит наше второе рождение\"", "publicationTitle": "BBC News Русская служба", "url": "https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-62419765", "abstractNote": "Экс-президент Украины Леонид Кучма встретил российское вторжение у себя дома в Киеве и уезжать не захотел. BBC News Украина удалось взять у него первое и пока единственное интервью за время войны.", "language": "ru", "libraryCatalog": "www.bbc.com", "accessDate": "2022-08-08", "shortTitle": "Леонид Кучма" } ]
Hi bot i give you a barnstar 😁 Einahr ( talk) 11:23, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
|url-status=dead
?
Sideswipe9th (
talk)
01:01, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
|url-status=live
|url-status=unfit
or |url-status=usurped
suppresses display of the original URL (but |url=
and |archive-url=
are still required).|url-status=dead
is assumed and the resulting main link is to the archived version:|url-status=dead
.Could not resolve URL
http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/73final/4515/4515pro_012.html#basic_arch_sect
Just a heads up that my little handy dandy guide on Citation bot finally got in the Signpost, as intended years ago. Feel free to leave a comment (or make suggestions for other guides on different topics). Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 20:04, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
The RFC has been closed [14] by @ ScottishFinnishRadish:
There is a strong consensus for Citation bot to use {{ cite news}} and {{ cite magazine}} in cases where online content doesn't appear in a print edition of a publication.
It is helpful to have this community endorsement of Citation bot's good work. This outcome was clearly foreseeable, but it is a relief that the saga is finally over.
However, I remain very sad that so much time and effort was spent in resolving the complaints of the 12 Angry Marvelites who created the drama. Their refusal to listen to more experienced editors led to this vast time-sink, and their aggressive rudeness poisoned the atmosphere. I hope that the 12 Angry Marvelites will reflect on their conduct, and pursue andy further concerns without the groupthink and assumptions of bad faith which characterised their approach to this issue.
And thanks to @ Sideswipe9th for their hard work in preparing the RFC. I wish that the RFC had not been needed, but when the 12 Angry Marvelites refused to listen, it was the only way to end the drama. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 07:35, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
it was not civil for Indagate to waste the time of other editors by a silly claim that 9 to 8 amounted to a consensus for their view– 9 to 8? Really? Unless my counting is significantly off, the participants of the prior discussion were pretty evenly split. If it really were 9 to 8 I wouldn't have called for an RfC, because consensus would have been clear in that case.
The edit at Aberration_(astronomy) changed the pages= entry to the issue number (e.g., A91), removing the page range (e.g. 1-6) of the article. This happened several times. I recently corrected the pages= entries.
|page=
and how people cite these journals. There are no issue numbers for those.
Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b}
17:07, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
|page=
, |pages=
, and |at=
are not the right place for an article number. cs1|2 does not have any support for article numbers. I think that there has been some discussion at
Help talk:Citation Style 1 but never to the point of action. Quite often I see article numbers in |number=
(an alias of |issue=
) which, really, is also incorrect. I suppose that if you must include an article number |number=
is the best place for it pending some decision to add support for article numbers – but don't be surprised when someone like me comes along and removes it.|id=
parameter. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
22:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
|id=
is for bibliographic identifiers like {{
Zbl}} etc... (when there aren't nativaly supported), not the article number. |page=
is perfectly fine for it, thought if you want to be an überpedant, |at=
is probably what you're looking for.
Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b}
22:46, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
|at=
. I'm trying to find a parameter which would not be misused. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
23:33, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
|id=
for press release numbers but reading this I think that may have been wrong. Perhaps I should have been using |number=
instead, but there is no documentation to support this.
Hawkeye7
(discuss)
01:26, 1 August 2022 (UTC)|page=A9 [17]
if you want to refer to a specific page/page range.
Headbomb {
t ·
c ·
p ·
b}
21:10, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
|pages=A9:1–A9:17
. That's how they're numbered by
LIPIcs (an open-access publisher of many computer science conference proceedings), for instance. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
07:22, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Instead of modifying Google books URLs, use the
GBurl template where the search parameters are encompassed by the template. This change may need an RFC. Possibly the
Citer tool (python) may provide more documentation on the parameters of the Query part of the URL, for which there doesn't seem to be easily findable documentation.
In *Template.php:expand_by_google_books_inner* the current code doesn't seem to cope with the munged title now being part of the
string, so that may be worth enhancing.
if (preg_match("~^https?://www\.google\.(?:[^\./]+)/books/edition/_/(.+)$~", $url, $matches)) {
Here's some perl snippets since I'm not PHP literate.
use URI; use URI::Split qw(uri_split uri_join); LINE: while (<>) { chomp; next if /^$/; if (/^\s*#/) { print $_, "\n"; next; } my($uri) = URI->new($_); my($sch, $aut, $pth, $qry, $frg) = uri_split($uri); if (defined($sch) && ($sch eq 'http' || $sch eq 'https') && defined($aut) && defined($pth)) { my($template); substr($aut, -3, 3) = '' if substr($aut, -3) eq ':80'; ... if ($aut =~ /^www\.google\.c(?:a|o(?:m|m\.au|\.uk|\.in))$/ && $pth =~ m|^/books/edition/[^/]+/([-A-Za-z0-9_]{12})$|) { my($gb_arg) = $1; foreach my $gb_restrict (split('&', $qry)) { if ($gb_restrict =~ /^(pg|dq)=/) { if (substr($gb_restrict, 0, 5) eq 'pg=PA') { $gb_arg .= '|p=' . substr($gb_restrict, 5); } else { $gb_arg .= '|' . $gb_restrict; } } elsif ($gb_restrict =~ /^bsq=(.+)/) { $gb_arg .= '|dq=' . $1; } # Safe to skip: hl= (Normally en), gbpv= # printsec= - skip only if there's a pg= # Shouldn't convert if there's anything else? } $template = "{{GBurl|$gb_arg}}"; } --- Example URLs https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/D%C3%BCsenj%C3%A4ger/r_cuAAAACAAJ?hl=en https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/%EC%8A%A4%ED%83%80%ED%83%80%EC%9D%B4%EB%93%9C_%EB%9D%BC%EC%9D%B4%EC%A7%95_2_%EC%96%91%EC%9E%A5%EB%B3%B8_Ha/Cn_9jgEACAAJ?hl=en https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Machiavelli_The_Prince/05R7kYOKD0cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Cambridge%2520University&pg=PT12&printsec=frontcover https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Machiavelli_The_Prince/05R7kYOKD0cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PR4&printsec=frontcover&dq=Cambridge https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Machiavelli_The_Prince/05R7kYOKD0cC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT12&printsec=frontcover&dq=Cambridge%20University https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/The_Existential_Graphs_of_Charles_S_Peir/Q4K30wCAf-gC?hl=en&gbpv=0 https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/The_Existential_Graphs_of_Charles_S_Peir/Q4K30wCAf-gC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA113&printsec=frontcoverG https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/The_Golden_Enclaves/7kRYEAAAQBAJ?hl=en https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/When_Computers_Went_to_Sea/Mi8MhzheOokC?hl=en&gbpv=0 https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/When_Computers_Went_to_Sea/Mi8MhzheOokC?hl=en&gbpv=0 https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Conflict_and_Conquest_in_the_Islamic_Wor/jBBYD2J2oE4C?hl=en&gbpv=1 https://www.google.com/books/edition/Playwriting_for_Profit/jhwLAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22show%20not%20tell%22 https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/A-c7AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA419&dq=%27Barnstead%20charter%27 Provincial https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Provincial_and_State_Papers/A-c7AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq='Barnstead%20charter'%20Provincial&pg=PA419&printsec=frontcover https://www.google.ca/books/edition/Principes_d_exp%C3%A9ditive_fran%C3%A7aise_pour/FgVJ55_weywC?&gbpv=0 {{GBurl|r_cuAAAACAAJ}} {{GBurl|Cn_9jgEACAAJ}} {{GBurl|05R7kYOKD0cC|dq=Cambridge%2520University|pg=PT12}} {{GBurl|05R7kYOKD0cC|pg=PR4|dq=Cambridge}} {{GBurl|05R7kYOKD0cC|pg=PT12|dq=Cambridge%20University}} {{GBurl|Q4K30wCAf-gC}} {{GBurl|Q4K30wCAf-gC|p=113}} {{GBurl|7kRYEAAAQBAJ}} {{GBurl|Mi8MhzheOokC}} {{GBurl|Mi8MhzheOokC}} {{GBurl|jBBYD2J2oE4C}} {{GBurl|jhwLAAAAMAAJ|dq=%22show%20not%20tell%22}} {{GBurl|A-c7AAAAIAAJ|p=419|dq=%27Barnstead%20charter%27%20Provincial}} {{GBurl|A-c7AAAAIAAJ|dq='Barnstead%20charter'%20Provincial|p=419}} {{GBurl|FgVJ55_weywC}}
No, this is a bad idea, especially for a bot. -- Izno ( talk) 01:53, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
|postscript=
parameter in {{
cite journal}} and {{
cite web}}
This was
marked as fixed in February 2020 – either that was in error or it's subsequently been broken again. –
Arms & Hearts (
talk)
16:45, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
|postscript=
specifies the citation's terminal character. For cs1 templates, the default character is a dot; for cs2 templates, the default is no terminal punctuation. When the value assigned to |postscript=
has more than one character,
Module:Citation/CS1 emits a CS1 maint: postscript message and adds the article to
Category:CS1 maint: postscript. At
Whites, Jews, and Us § External links, both cs1 templates have |postscript= –
which Module:Citation/CS1 sees as 7 characters. The exception to this one-character limit is the keyword none
which suppresses the normal cs1 terminal dot (not allowed in cs2 templates because redundant). Consider writing:
{{cite ... |postscript=none}} – <descriptive text>
{{citation ... }} – <descriptive text>
Additional text, or templates that render more than a single terminating punctuation character, will generate a maintenance message, but that doesn't seem to have happened here. – Arms & Hearts ( talk) 12:17, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
[removed] a necessary non-breaking spaceyet in this edit you did the same thing?
{{
spaced ndash}}
or {{
snd}}
or –
)
This has been discussed in the past, and there was a very strong agreement that adding these was a good idea. The DOI can be found via google, etc. and that makes it a useful identifier, even if broken. Also, it encourages people to report and get them fixed. Note that the dx.doi.org reporting method does not necessarily work often, since the DOI might be owned by a different company than the journal owner. I have actually reached out to various publishers and gotten many of them fixed.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:08, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Will do, if not book, and if no existing |date=
, and id year matches any existing |year=
. Now to right the code, and unit tests.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
11:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
|volume=
parameter, and not |title=
.{{
cite magazine}}
: CS1 maint: date and year (
link)|year=
if you add |date=
in this case.
Izno (
talk)
05:15, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
The vast majority of those are functional if you remove the second slash.
Citation bot should attempt to cleanup these DOIs. Remove the slash, if still active, it's a good fix. If it doesn't resolve, bad fix and keep the original DOI. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 13:28, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
I will look into doing that. I have run across at least one DOI where the first character in the suffix is a slash. Absolutely nuts.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:47, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
The
site in question seems to have some kind of browser validation. Perhaps it doesn't like Citation bot and directs it to a different page than normal users.
Jc3s5h (
talk)
15:45, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Is it possible to add ghostarchive.org and archive.ph alongside the current website/(s) this bot uses? Jenkowelten ( talk) 08:35, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
|script-title=
was not noticed and so a title was added, but then it was removed for being basically the same.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
23:11, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
References
Whether to link a work is a page-specific choice. As for work versus newspaper, |work=
is (effectively) an alias of the other without possibly mis-stating what the value of the parameter actually is. In CS1, it is sufficient. (In CS2, it would require a bit more work than to use |work=
in general.) --
Izno (
talk)
04:14, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Whether to link a work is a page-specific choice.
Citations stand alone in their usage, so there is no problem with repeating the same link in many citations within an article; e.g. |work=The Guardian
.
However, this is in the overall context of "don't make duplicate links", so editors should have local control over which works to link in citations, and whether to link them in multiple or not at all.
Izno (
talk)
06:01, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
editors should have local control over which works to link in citations
I didn't suggest changing existing citations, just simply linking the source (in the RS sense of source, not the actual cited work), when generating a new one. Whether this should be included in a requested run, is another question. I'd say yes, if there are other improvements, similarly to what the bot does renaming parameters (fromEditors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style merely on the grounds of personal preference
|first=
and |last=
to |first1=
and |last1=
, for example). —
Guarapiranga
☎
03:41, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Same for Foobar / The Foobar. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 20:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
|archive-url|https://web.archive.org/web/20041022022448/http://www.constancedemby.com/spain_f.html
→ |archive-url
|archive-url|
with |archive-url=
Yes, this is
GIGO, and this sort of junk is tricky to handle. But I think that it might be possible to fix this particular piece garbage rather than making things worse. --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs)
10:59, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
|archive-date=
without an |archive-url=
is not reported as a CS1 error.
User-duck (
talk)
12:54, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
About 200 new entries appeared in
Category:CS1 errors: invisible characters. This is an example:
International Young Design Entrepreneur of the Year
It apparently occurred with this edit: " curprev 23:03, August 19, 2022 Citation bot talk contribs 22,440 bytes +778 Alter: title. | Use this bot. Report bugs. | Suggested by BrownHairedGirl | #UCB_webform 2196/3663 undo ". — Preceding unsigned comment added by User-duck ( talk • contribs)
There are over 300 articles in the category now, I have been fixing CS1 errors for some time now. This is the first time I have seen so many new articles in this category so I knew it was the result of a bot run. Either the bot has changed or the input to the bot is garbage. User-duck ( talk) 12:44, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Ah -- my browser runs with NoScript enabled. The bot would not work until I enabled Javascript from
citations.toolforge.org to run in my browser. After I enabled that in NoScript, it worked. This was not obvious from the documentation of how to enable CitationBot.
Gnuish (
talk)
22:39, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello. I've noticed that the bot adds titles like ??????? ???? ??? when fetching Hebrew source titles (e.g. this). Not sure if this is a fault specific to Hebrew, but seen it on a few articles. Cheers, Number 5 7 20:53, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
|url=
and in |title=
is a ve issue that has been reported at
T310892 but given the overwhelming non-response, I'm skeptical that it will ever be fixed...{{Cite web|url=https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/893110747991093250|access-date=2021-08-24|website=Twitter|language=en|archive-date=2021-08-24|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210824174254/https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/893110747991093250|url-status=live|title=Matthew Green Twitterren: "The pragmatist in me says "who cares, this will obviously work better if it has a few big nodes". The cypherpunk in me says "F that".… HTTPS://T.co/KOZNOLgyKk" }}
{{
cite web}}
: External link in |title=
(
help){{Cite web|url=https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/893110747991093250|access-date=2021-08-24|website=Twitter|language=en|archive-date=2021-08-24|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210824174254/https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/893110747991093250|url-status=live|author=Matthew Green |title=The pragmatist in me says "who cares, this will obviously work better if it has a few big nodes". The cypherpunk in me says "F that".}}
{{
cite tweet}}
. (isn't there a bot that already converts {{
cite web}}
to {{cite tweet}}
?)
Apparently Citation bot can get the author and the tweet so why didn't it use separate parameters |author=Matthew Green
and |title=The pragmatist in me says ...
? And where did … HTTPS://T.co/KOZNOLgyKk
come from? That shortened url isn't part of the original or the archived tweets – the url doesn't point to anything of value (unless a poodle in a chair has value...). It is interesting to me that the author text in |title=
has the non-English 'Twitterren' (Google translate thinks that it's Basque for 'on Twitter' which is what I normally see: |title=Matthew Green on Twitter: "The pragmatist in me says..."
. This odd use of 'Twitterren' is what provoked me to investigate the history of this citation.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 15:30, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
|id=
params leaving the field with broken params |id=.
.|id=
params. I don't think there is reason to do this in any case but certainly not in this case.
The bot should treat |url=
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6077754/
the same ay as |url=
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6077754/
I.e. remove it from a {{
cite journal}} if |pmc=6077754
is already present.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
04:59, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Fixed
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
15:36, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Any bibcode that starts with ####arXiv... should be updated when possible. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 13:05, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
The original citation at
[25] incorrectly uses a left single quotation mark U+2018 where okina U+02BB was intended. This was corrected when the citation was added to the article. The bot should have left this alone.
GA-RT-22 (
talk)
21:44, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Not a bug. See the
template documentation.
— Trappist the monk ( talk) 23:03, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
I agree with Trappist. In these cases, the news agency is acting as a publisher rather than as an agency. Neutral on whether to use |work=
or |publisher=
. --
BrownHairedGirl
(talk) • (
contribs)
13:03, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
|work=AP News
or |work=Associated Press News
. That is the name they give to that part of their site, that is, the work. It is incorrect to list |work=AP
|work=Associated Press
|publisher=
or |agency=
instead. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
19:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
You need to look more closely at the edits.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
20:42, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
<title>...</title>
, but the bot should never add a title with a url to |title=
in a cs1|2 template. Further, if a 'title' contains pipe characters (or any of its html equivalents) the bot should probably not use whatever it found in <title>...</title>
because most of those things between pipes are not the title.
My category run (
Category:Genes on human chromosome X) stalled at 11:54 this morning after
this edit to item 218 of 542,
Collagen, type IV, alpha 5. Around 15:10, I tried to kill the stalled job with
https://citations.toolforge.org/kill_big_job.php, which responded with Existing large job flagged for stopping
, but, as of now, nearly an hour and a half later, my attempts to start a new category run are still throwing up Run blocked by your existing big run.
.
Whoop whoop pull up
Bitching Betty ⚧️
Averted crashes
21:39, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Fixed both hung job and what killed it.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
16:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Another one of my category runs's stalled (
Category:Corrosion inhibitors this time), having made
this edit to
Benzotriazole (item 26 of 32); the reason I know it's stalled rather than simply having finished running through that category is that, when I attempted to start a new category run, it threw up Run blocked by your existing big run.
, which it continued to do even after I tried to kill the stalled job with
https://citations.toolforge.org/kill_big_job.php (which obligingly came back with Existing large job flagged for stopping
).
Whoop whoop pull up
Bitching Betty ⚧️
Averted crashes
19:36, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
@ AManWithNoPlan: Sorry to pester you, but I'm still being locked out of starting a new run most of a day later. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 12:12, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Fixed
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
13:43, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Why does it change {{cite web |via=NYTimes.com}}
to {{cite news |newspaper=The New York Times}}
but not {{cite news |via=NYTimes.com}}
to {{cite news |newspaper=The New York Times}}
or am I missing something?
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
22:07, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
|via=
when |work=
had content.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
17:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC){{ fixed}} AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 19:46, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
{{
Better source needed}}
when you created the article. That template adds
Category:Articles lacking reliable references (see info at the top of the category page).The bot added doi: 10.1038/186211a0 bibcode = 1960Natur.186Q.211. to the
But the Nature article (the doi) is only the review of the real article (the url) -- Stone ( talk) 08:54, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
|agency=Reuters
is incorrect. However, turning it into |work=Reuters
is also incorrect. The name of the work is not "Reuters". I think that the correct parameters for this citation would be |work=Reuters Graphics
and/or |publisher=Reuters
. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
00:20, 21 September 2022 (UTC)|work=
is always italicized, and should be. If Reuters (the company) published this content on a site (work) whose name was also "Reuters", then italicizing it as the name of a work would be correct. The only problem here is that the name of the site is not "Reuters" but instead "Reuters Graphics". —
David Eppstein (
talk)
00:59, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
|work=
. In this specific case, at the bottom of the source is this:
|work=Reuters Graphics
is more correct than |work=Reuters
. Use |agency=Reuters
when Reuters licences another corporate entity to publish a Reuters article in the 'other corporate entity's' work (commonly a newspaper, or other news source). Example: Reuters grants a licence to
The New York Times Company to publish a Reuters article in
The New York Times so: |agency=Reuters
|newspaper=The New York Times
. |agency=
should never be used in the absence of |work=
(or an alias) – I wonder if cs1|2 should enforce that; it might reduce the number of occasions that this topic must be discussed...{{
cite journal}}
, {{
cite magazine}}
, {{
cite news}}
, {{
cite web}}
) |publisher=
should be omitted most of the time. Do not use |publisher=Reuters
to avoid italicizing 'Reuters'.|publisher=
in periodical metadata and no support for |agency=
at all. |agency=
is only rendered in the visual. Those who consume cs1|2 citations through the metadata have no idea where an article comes from if that information is not included in the correct cs1|2 parameter (|work=
or an alias). Do not deprive those consumers of this essential information.Thanks for the help.😁 Hamsterbird ( talk) 01:01, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
This would not generally be a good solution to the error noted. --
Izno (
talk)
01:14, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
That was me, not the bot. I didn't see harv in the notes or refs and forgot to check in the text.
RDBrown (
talk)
12:41, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
The bot should only report "Formatted dashes" if the dashes it is formatting were already in place. It shouldn't report this for dashes it added. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
18:35, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
Earlier this afternoon I ran the bot on several small categories, all now complete. However hours later when I try to run it on a new category I just get "Run blocked by your existing big run." with no explanation as to what that is when the run should have completed ages ago.
Timrollpickering (
talk)
18:48, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
that is really odd. the original character is a single quote - spanish style.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
11:28, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Strange error, in this edit Zehnder's first paper was marked with year 2010, even though it is from 1975. Gumshoe2 ( talk) 01:11, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
https://search.crossref.org/?from_ui=&q=10.1002%2Fcpa.3160280104 AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 11:19, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
|format=PDF
parameter is being removed unnecessarily from references using the {{
Cite book}} template.
Incidentally, it also says it upgraded an ISBN10 to 13 but all it did was add dashes to an ISBN13. --
Izno (
talk)
19:30, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
|format=PDF
is correct, as the cite template now knows to display the PDF sign regardless. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
21:01, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
|format=PDF
displays to everyone, whereas the icon is not available to all users.
Izno (
talk)
21:07, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
10.1210/jendso/
* should be marked as |doi-access=free
.
Example: |doi=10.1210/jendso/bvab049
.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
19:26, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
|title=Archived copy
with text that contains a url|url=
, |chapter-url=
, etc); pretty sure that I've made this point before...
Another instance
Special:Diff/1114768642 "journal=Includes:reports from Commissioners, Inspectors and Others"
jnestorius(
talk)
06:26, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
On 23 September 2022, on
Partridge (1814 ship) the Citation Bot ignored the parameter url=, which had a fully functional URL in it, and added hdl= , with a url. The result was that the citation displayed both with the clickable icon for a url, and the full, redundant hdl= url. I had fixed this untidy semiduplication before, but apparently to no avail. Clearly the bot is ignoring the url parameter, even when it is populated. Can this be fixed? Regards,
Acad Ronin (
talk)
16:58, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
I haven't been able to use the bot in a while, apparently there's a big run done for me, but I can't seem to kill it or find what edit it's wanting to do. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 02:00, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
|p=
changes should have been to |pages=
. --
Izno (
talk)
20:24, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
|chapter=
to {{
cite journal}}
. |chapter=
and alias parameters are not supported by: {{
cite arxiv}}
, {{
cite biorxiv}}
, {{
cite citeseerx}}
, {{
cite journal}}
, {{
cite magazine}}
, {{
cite news}}
, {{
cite newsgroup}}
, {{
cite podcast}}
, {{
cite press release}}
, {{
cite ssrn}}
, {{
cite web}}
.