Lord Cunningham-Reid needs some more work (or he'll fight): see T:TDYK#Alec Cunningham-Reid. Ucucha 02:03, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Ucucha ( talk) 02:43, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Now that you seem to be active again is there any chance you could follow up on this bot request? ww2censor ( talk) 15:49, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Now that you seem to be back, at least for a while, welcome back. I asked User:Anomie and User:AnomieBOT if he could tag all the Motorcycling WikiProject articles as stub-class which have the motorcycling stub {{ Motorcycle-stub}} in the articles for our recently formed assessment department. I estimate about 2,750+ articles use the stub. The talk pages that are already (mainly incompletely) tagged use the {{ Motorcycling}} project banner. There is also a redirect from {{ WikiProject Motorcycling}} which is been used in about 100 talk pages and should possibly be replaced or at least checked for during the process. However, despite posting replies to others my request have been ignored for more than a month by Anomie! Your bot did such work of the Ireland project, so I know you can do it, but do you have the time? TIA ww2censor ( talk) 15:02, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
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instead. When you have a set worklist, because I presume you will do as previously, I will ask someone else to review it as well as myself. Brilliant. TIA I'm offline after this until much later.
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Hi, I'm curious about why you removed the category Irish nationalist politicians from Joe Biggar. I'd thought that was exactly what he was. ?? regards, Rod Rcbutcher ( talk) 10:31, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey, sounds kinda cool, rather like The Bourne Ultimatium - "Coogan's back. And this time - its political". Anyway, thanks for that. I am going to add more info to each bio but I just wanted to get the dammed things up for once and for all. Hope all is well with you - what's Santa bringing ya? Fergananim ( talk) 21:03, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
My page on Thomas Tierney, and a number of other Mayors, has reverted to Mayor of Galway. I was just about to expand every relevent page. What do I do??? Fergananim ( talk) 21:45, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello ! I see you removed two Irish MPs from this categ (maybe more) on the grounds that it was a superfluous categ and that they were in the categ IPP MPs. However the categ. Irish Nat. politicians is a cumulmative categ not just for IPP MPs, but also for MPs of other Nationalist groupings, such as All-for-Ireland League MPs, Home Rule League MPs, Independent Nat. MPs and some Nationalists who were active politicians but not MPs, such as Andrew Kettle. I will therefore permit myself to restore Esmonde and Gwynn to the categ. again which I hope you will be in agreement with. Greetings Osioni ( talk) 17:47, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
[[Member of Parliament]] (MP)
with [[Member of Parliament|MP]]
. Per
Wikipedia:MOS#Acronyms_and_abbreviations, abbreviations shoud be spelled out when first used, so I have expanded that one again.OK, I leave it with you if you wish to reverse all the categs again. However, I feel we need to create a categ for non-MP Nationalist politicians, such as a Categ: Irish Nationalist activists, as a sub-cat of Irish Nat politicians, Kettle and some others could belong there. Osioni ( talk) 20:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
I’ve taken time to give thought to the issues. Firstly I am sorry for having had you explain your moves in such detail, was really unnecessary. I accept your authority on categories. In some cases I thought I had overlooked pages when I made what appeared to be a reversal with a second edit (something I wouldn’t dare do without checking it out) not noticing that you were close on my heels and had reverted my original edit. Pity we couldn’t have sorted out the disparities in two minutes over a pot of tea.
I originally created the categ. Nat. politicians in good faith to accommodate a distinction between "real" nationalist politicians who on the one hand were active in land reform or the home rule movement, from those many general politicians (some not nationals) who on the other hand were not nationalist activists, returned short term, or simply through some internal IPP arrangement. I am opposed to calling all IPP MPs automatically 'Irish nationalist' politicians.
Now that the pages have been whittled down to 34, it is unlikely anyone takes on the task of re-instating the deleted pages. Therefore simply de-populate the rest. Two will remain, the non-MPs Andrew Kettle and James Daly (and others of a kind who may follow). I am against having them disappear into an uncategorized limbo. Either they stay or we create a category Ir. Nat. activists? The present categ. should definitely remain a parent category because readers would normally begin a search under the term ‘nationalist politicians’ rather than under one of its sub-categories.
Regarding the categ. Nationalist Movement, I accept it could cover other areas than the period we are talking about. My case for upholding the category rests on the fact that it categorizes a significant inter-related period of nationalist history covering land reform and the constitutional home rule movement, supported by its many pages. A suggestion would be to move the categ to Ir. Nat. Movement (1860-1918). Not intending to divert attention, but there are other "Movement" category/pages where focus is just on one singular aspect of, for example, republicanism, whereas categ. Nationalist Movement relates to a whole eventful period of Irish nationalism. Osioni ( talk) 09:59, 8 December 2009 (UTC), Osioni ( talk) 10:08, 8 December 2009 (UTC), Osioni ( talk)
Hi BrownHairedGirl. I've tried reverting the changes you made to the Mayors of Galway list but am unsuccessful. As I said before, I first created them, THEN added political and biographical details. Could you please revert your reverts? Cheers, Fergananim ( talk) 17:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
BHG, help. I have started an article on Thomas Mansel, 1st Baron Mansel, but both father and son were MPs for Cardiff and Glamorgan, but a Bussy Mansel was and MP well before Thomas. It's been wiki-linked as the same person, but he would have been an MP at the age of 110 if this was true, and I think born before his father. As one of our best connected political editors, could you try to solve this one. Thanks in advance, FruitMonkey ( talk) 21:04, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Materialscientist ( talk) 10:49, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I have made a proposal to establish a WikiProject for British-Irish Collaboration. A number of proposals are currently being made around initiates to improve collaboration between British and Irish editors on topics of mutual interest. A number of initiates have been adapted in the past, with varying degrees of success, but all positive in their intent to resolve these issues. A centralised WikiProject for British-Irish collaboration could act as a focus for initiatives to improve collaboration on these topics.
As an editor that has recently taken part in discussions around initiates like these, please comment on the proposal to establish a WikiProject for this purpose. Please also circulate this notice to other editors you feel may be interested. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid ( coṁrá) 14:02, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm surprised an admin has signed next to this - which is a very sudden and un-formed idea. Don't you think it is fundamentally sectarian? I'm not happy on a number of levels, and these things need to be formulated before people actually sign them, don't they? People should be able to read what they are signing. I feel a bit uncomfortable with what you did to be honest - I expected the other sigs, but not yours. At very least it should be called 'Britain and Ireland' (not British-Irish) and should be utterly neutral space, without any punishment nonsense. Demanding 'collaboration' hasn't worked in the past either - it should be a British and Ireland Wikiproject really. It's funny, but I often find that Wikipedia always has the best routes in place. When people avoid those routes, and new ones are created, they seem to be fundamentally flawed. As it stands, I feel people are running from the British Isles taskforce anyway (the idea of a compromising guideline specifically), and this is partly made as a sideways step. You must know that nobody will ever fully win anything in these matters, and that common-sense guideline space, which new users can refer to (and admin can admin by) has to be the natural and encyclopedic way forward. We won't get to them by sticking to the same schizms, and failed ptocedures. Matt Lewis ( talk) 23:01, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Please reviev: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_December_16#Amended_suggestion. - Altenmann >t 18:55, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Reading a complaint in your user page: here is a merry Christmas to you from St. Mikkalai: User:BrownHairedGirl/contribs, per this. Rgds, - Altenmann >t 19:30, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi BHG. Would it be possible for you to take a look at the following discussion at the above page which appears to be the purest stitch up of any discussion I've ever seen on Wikipedia. It was opened just before 8pm last night and closed at just after midnight this morning. Of the contributors, only one is a regular contributor to political articles, some of the others I have never come across before. Bear in mind that this is within days of a previous debate coming to a wholly different view here [1] Of course this debate was open for a week, not four hours. Oh I was notified about the new discussion btw, at 23:48 all of 16 minutes before the discussion was closed. All this looks like a pre-arranged stitch up BHG and I hope you will consider looking into this as it leaves a very bad taste in the mouth. Thanks - Galloglass 17:50, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Jack White (musician) is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC [2] [3]. Please can you arrange to have the articles moved back to where they were, which only an admin can do now because of your subsequent editing. thanks, -- JD554 ( talk) 14:24, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
The question is perhaps whether we are writing an encyclopedia aimed at early-21st-century under-30 Americans, or a general encyclopedia. I favour the latter, so agree with BHG that a currently famous singer is not the Primary Usage. The Trade Unionist (though not described as such) is the only one listed in Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. PamD ( talk) 18:39, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
As mentioned in the original nomination, there are two discussions about this matter, on the WP:RU project talk page. Consensus has been reached, with the one you refer to (in your objection) being the second "courtesy-notification" after the consensus was already reached in the first link here. This idea comes from the wikiproject itself, so concern for our inclusion is appreciated, but not necessary, thanks. Would you consider removing your objection so this mammoth task can get under way? Thank you in advance. - Sahmejil ( talk) 14:26, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
To understand the slippages and overlaps and domains and donts and dos of united kingdom projects? I was on mull a few months ago and have a few books i want to check things against - and noticed you had identified 2 projects - scottish islands and scotland - has any one done a map or explanation of what project fits where? I also cat tag a lot and such a guide would be very helpful not to raise ire of those who watch cat tags Satu Suro 08:45, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks - yes it is some help - (but shucks I thought some smart brit would realise their whole project confusion for UK and the subsidiary ones - there are parts that are confusing I can tell you -- guides or no guides) needed an explanation somewhere :) Satu Suro 11:29, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
OK I suppose that Wikipedia:UK_Wikipedians'_notice_board and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory/Geographical/Europe#United_Kingdom - juxtaposed is probably what I am after - sorry to be a nuisance Satu Suro 11:39, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi BHG, regarding the change in WP:Politician (which I only recently became aware of), about first level sub-national political office, or in Ireland's case local city and county councillors. I see you are engaged in AfD for Billy Cameron but the main effect of this change is to allow anyone to create an article for an elected councillor (1627 of them in the RoI), and link a mention in a local newspaper and a passing mention (probably of local election results) in a national newspaper and say that the person meets notability guidelines. This is NOT a positive development, imho. Any suggestions about what can be done regarding this issue? Snappy ( talk) 01:14, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out my typo. Whilst I did not intend to "break" anything, it is good to know that some people like yourself like to point it out to the person, rather than just fix it and move on. Thanks again ! Neonblak talk - 01:31, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 December 14#Category:International Christian Leadership. The category is similar to Category:Members of the Family also known as the Fellowship which you recently commented on. -- Kevinkor2 ( talk) 09:37, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I remain concerned with regard to linking the post-treaty United Kingdom page to pre-treaty nationalist articles. This happens when using the single link United Kingdom House of Commons. That page states “The House of Commons is the lower house of the Parliament of the United Kingdom”. The latter link opens: “The Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland etc . is ..“ which is the post-treaty UK and misleading in pre-treaty pages. The use of two separate links (either short or long form) is however clear and reflects the historical situation at the time, i.e. the United Kingdom House of Commons. The first pre-treaty "United Kingdom of GB and Ireland" link, qualifies the second link. That a double link is untidy when a single link can do the job is something I can’t follow in this case. The "United Kingdom House of Commons" remains optically the same. I’m assuming that for the sake of historical clarity on relevant nationalist pages, split links will continue to be used and that it’s ok should I occasionally change a single link into a double link. It is similar to where the First, Second or Third Dáils are sometimes linked to the present Dáil Éireann. Greetings, Osioni ( talk) 21:04, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I had hoped to avoid a further exchange. The informative explanations are welcome (apart from the unjustly harsh comments). On the other hand I have obviously failed to communicate the absurdity of a situation, whereby pre-1923 events are depicted as taking place in a post-1923 period-setting, with the south of Ireland already separated from the UK. The need to sever the union was a driving force prior to 1923 and certainly requires the correct backdrop of the legislature "UK of GB and Ireland", and not that of a conflicting post-"UK of GB and Northern Ireland".
As previously mentioned, this occurs when the text implies that the current "re-named" UK successor state is one and the same as its original 1801 predecessor, which it is not. It happens (as I already said) when either the single United Kingdom or the House of Commons of the United Kingdom link are used without a qualifying link. It is unproblematic as well as imperative to include the historically correct pre-1923 legislature using the link to the United Kingdom House of Commons, the so-called split link.
The view that this creates a "boiler point text", "mangled syntax" or "impediment to navigation" and "text flow" is not possible to follow and is an over-kill on faulting. That naming the proper period-setting by its full name triggers something "horrendous" is in itself "horrendous". (An acceptable term such as "over-inflated" would suffice fully in some few, but not all cases). This is certainly not to deny that brush-ups may always be necessary and of advantage here and there, historical content having precedence.
I was first made aware of the need to adopt the correct period-setting some years back when pages I had worked on were all re-edited, much to my surprise, to include the correct full legislative period in the lead, (now called “horrendous”) which I had initially overlooked, or had inadvertently used the incorrect post- UK link. I immediately got the message, and since then adhered to it. Now all at once this is faulted. I respect different concepts as such, but feel they are being pursued in a rather over-exacerbated manner. To clinically deplete the lead of the title of the formal state existing at the time is difficult to comprehend. Taking the risk of looking at it on an analytical level, to remove or 'bury' the pre-1923 legislature resonates a little like hiding those parts of history people prefer not to be confronted with.
A further example of where the successor-UK link appears to be incorrectly used, taken randomly from a leading main article:
"In 1921 the
United Kingdom government established a legislature called the
Parliament of Southern Ireland in an effort to appease nationalists by granting Ireland limited
home rule".
The "UK of GB and Northern Ireland government" certainly did not establish such a legislature in 1921. (A needed sub-linked edit would likely to be seen as untidy or pedantic?).
Pity those trying to unravel our history.
Regarding for the Dáils,I may have expressed myself unclearly, but am well aware that since 1919 there have been 30 Dáils which has nothing to do with the point raised. Many articles make reference to one or other of the first Dáils concerning an event, statement or somebody elected to them. The Second Dáil for example has its own page with its own specific historic background. It is baffling that it is now found to be perfectly correct when that particular Dáil’s page is de-existed through an obviously deceptive link to: the Second Dáil Éireann, which is sub-linked to the current Dáil Éireann assembly. The only thing they have in common is the word Dáil.
Yes, some of us know Irish MPs only had Westminster to go to, but the encyclopaedia is not just for us now, but for generations to come when this fact and its legislature will no longer be known. The reason they require to be mentioned individually. The MPs are not part of a single article with a single lead.
With that I hope I may have clarified myself to some extent. Osioni ( talk) 23:27, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but I have enough of this. You have been kind enough to write me a long reply, but you appear not have read most of what I wrote above, and I think I am wasting my time. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 23:49, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
I just happened to see what you did at Category:New School for Social Research faculty. Was this discussed at WP:CFD or anywhere else? Debresser ( talk) 22:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
The Picture of the Day for today is muddled with its tenses: Its curved beak is adapted to taking nectar from flowers, but they will also eat fruit and insects. Could you make them both plural or both singular? From WP:ERRORS. Shubinator ( talk) 01:58, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
To keep discussion in one place, replies moved to User talk:Djln#Category_deletions, where the discussion started. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 15:59, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello: I noticed that this discussion was closed and that Cydebot has begun moving the articles to Category:United States emission standards Tier 2 compliant locomotives; however, the consensus of the discussion was that the new category should be named Category:EPA Tier 2-compliant locomotives of the United States. Do you happen to know why the bot is moving the articles to the wrong category? I would ask the bot directly, but they're usually not very responsive. ;-) Thanks and Happy Holidays! – BMRR ( talk) 17:50, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Uhm, why did you move that page of the rugby player to William Ryder (rugby union player)?. The other guy is known as William T. Ryder so no need to disambiguate that and just leave the "other names' tag on the rugby players page and + that person died 17 years ago and when people search, they would be looking for the rugby player, not him... Please next time you decide to make changes to "rugby related articles", ask the people at Wikipedia Project:Rugby union first...-- Warpath ( talk) 22:10, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
FYI Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#User:Brown_Hair_Girl_is_stalking_me Gerardw ( talk) 22:18, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
If you've a moment, can you take a look at this and tell me how I managed to bugger it up so completely? I have made dozens of AfD nominations, and I haven't any idea what I did wrong this time. All I know is this is not what it should look like. I thank you for your time and efforts, as always. --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 04:30, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Brownhairedgirl, Holiday greetings, etc. Thanks for adding the category "Royal Navy schooners" to the category page. I have wondered how one created sub-categories and now I know. I added the Ballahoo class schooner category page too. You may have noticed that I have added five (of 18) schooners to the Ballahoo class. Regards, Acad Ronin ( talk) 03:51, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
[4]. I forgot; thx. Good Ol’factory (talk) 12:43, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi
Is the category Romance (genre) is out of scope being a category ?, I think it could at-least have members as those works listed in the Romance (genre) article page. The novel Marthandavarma is tagged as historical romance - is it not right to (for the novel) come under Romance (genre)- just a humble doubt(
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Hi,
What I meant is – whether there won’t be a category Romance (genre) in Wikipedia hereafter or from now .. ??, its just that the Category inclusion was removed from the Marthandavarma (novel) article, where the same was added by me. Okay .. if there going be a category Romance (genre), I’d suggest it to be added to the above mentioned article otherwise .. never mind, Thanks
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Please take a look also at this talk page post. The problem isn't just bad categories; there is objective error in what he does as well. The response I got was...less than constructive. postdlf ( talk) 14:34, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you for making efforts to intervene with Levineps. I was concerned about two months ago about some of his edits, and since that time I've tried to work with him a number of times on my own initiative, and I've also been approached by a number of other editors on my talk page and via email who have been as troubled as I was. He bounces around from topic to topic, so it seems that some editors get very concerned, and then when he moves on to other areas, the concerns of these editors die off, but overall I think his pattern of edits is very concerning. I have not known where to take things since my last comments on his talk page—I was kind of waiting for someone else involved in CFD to notice that we have a pattern developing here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:34, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid you're incorrect: I added nothing. I shall re-edit, but without removing the fact tags, since what I removed was opinion and irrelevant anyway. SE7 Talk/ Contribs 04:06, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh and I don't "sneakily" edit things. I imagine one would have to live a very sad life indeed to go around editing things merely to suit their purposes rather than suit the truth of the matter, but thanks for the lecture anyway SE7 Talk/ Contribs 04:10, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
All you are doing is reverting my edits for the sake of reverting them. All your doing is hitting the undo button. If my edits are wrong thats one thing, but what you are doing is really disgusting. Levineps ( talk) 06:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
It seems to me you would make a good lawyer(if your not already). You always find an argument for everything, which can be a good thing. But I think unless it's a legitimate reason and you have shown a few, what your doing should be done less frequently.-- Levineps ( talk) 15:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
You probably know this already, but this won't work. It will only upmerge it to the first one listed. We have to put the double upmerges at WP:CFDWM for manual merges. They get done eventually, but it's slow. I wish there was a faster way. Not to worry about the one in question as I tracked down the four articles and added the second category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:00, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Is it appropriate for me to implement the community ban per the ANI talk page since I initially proposed it, or do I wait for an outside admin to do that? Am I expected to take the lead on this or would it be inappropriate for me to do so? I think there's a clear consensus for a category-edits ban and the additional points you've made. I've never done something like this before so I don't know. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Too many cooks... Please see the current state of the AN/I post, and this post. We need to undo that and implement them as I have written them, which is actually what was agreed to. User:Coffee's summary is neither an accurate restatement of the AN/I consensus, nor clear in its terms. postdlf ( talk) 15:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering about joining your userpage category, as I meet some of the qualifications. However I am not "Cariverous" and wondered if this was a typo. If it is a fey, Celtic quality of some kind I apologise for my ignorance. Ben Mac Dui 14:32, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
BrownHairedGirl, I thank you for and appreciate your message to me concerning my creations of categories for the "House of Esterházy" and "House of Kinsky." As a lowly editor, I get caught up in the weeds when ensuring all persons are granted the proper categories for their articles. In the early days of Wikipedia, new editors created categories for families by naming the category just the family name without "House of..." or ".... family" and in my haste to correct these errors, I neglected to check Wikipedia policy. (And let's face it, Wikipedia policy is Byzantine in nature and not many editors [I've been one since 2005] are aware of all the policies they must strive to work within). This is why I'm thankful that administrators such as yourself are able to remind editors of these rules. Thanks for all you do for Wikipedia. -- Caponer ( talk) 19:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
That category doesn not correspond, because Oliventian Portuguese is a subdialect of Alentejan Portuguese, delete it. Read that article in Spanish Wikipedia. I believe that I confunded Oliventian with Alejentan, but I shall fix it. -- Der Künstler ( talk) 20:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
If you're still on your MP-expanding trawls, can you do the wonderfully-named John Samuel Wanley Sawbridge Erle-Drax at some point? (See his talk page for a summary of the current issues). – iride scent 20:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi BHG, sorry I slipped, well caught. [5] Happy New Year! - Fayenatic (talk) 21:41, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Offliner -- for what it's worth, I'd say that it appears that there is no good basis for those 3 articles to be in the category and that they should have been removed. Dougweller ( talk) 11:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I am sorry we dragged you into this, that was never my intention. I should have included the articles to my original note - I think I even planned to do this - but simply forgot, probably due being a bit under the weather from a slight fever. -- Sander Säde 13:29, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Reading this nomination of yours, I wanted to make sure you were aware of Category:Games by designer, where games are already categorized by their designers.-- Mike Selinker ( talk) 05:11, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BrownHairedGirl. Because you participated in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juan Manuel Rodriguez (writer), you may be interested in the rename discussion at Talk:Juan Manuel Rodriguez (writer)#Requested move. Thanks, Cunard ( talk) 18:20, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I do hear your argument about primary topic being a problem with dab repair. I do sometimes forget. But I think 60% is near the line (how much over 50% should it be?). During the last run visit with this "fun" topic ( Talk:James Stewart), I started a summary essay on the issues involved ( User:Jwy/Primary_Topics: Why and Which). It is an attempt to discuss neutrally the issues involved in choosing a primary target (or indeed, if there should be one). I want someone to be able to read it to be more informed, not necessary to prescribe what they should do. I have just looked at it again and see room for improvement (page loading in addition to clicks, for example). If you have suggestions for the essay, please jump in - either comment on the talk or directly in the article. (John User:Jwy talk) 22:47, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your contribution and doing the gruntwork in suggesting the renaming of all those categories. Was also nice to see that was actually WP:snow-ing! A big thanks from WP:RU. Sahmejil ( talk) 22:47, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I've sent User:Cyde an email about his slow-working bot. He told me awhile ago that he rarely checks his WP talk page now so if it slows down give him a shout on his email. I'll email you his address for future referece. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I suppose I am trying to be a bit cheeky at the Tassie and West Oz locomotives cats - really its a nobrainer - I think Vegaswikian saw that when I started polluting (maybe it was explaining) the entries - I await the far more interesting and challenging closed railways and railway stations, and disused railways and railway stations - to defunct railways and railway station CFD discussion (when it gets put up) - I am sure that will be more than my talking to myself - cheers Satu Suro 14:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi there, I didn't see the place I should comment about this category, but a list instead is fine with me.I'm Nonpartisan 02:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by I'm nonpartisan ( talk • contribs)
I think I just pulled the "Kyffin-" from the info in William Kyffin-Taylor, 1st Baron Maenan, but now that I look back, I suspect that's wrong. I can't now find any evidence that Austin (unlike his brothers) ever used the "Kyffin-". Choess ( talk) 07:02, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BrownHairedGirl, I was a bit bothered by a couple of your CFD noms and decided I should post a note here and offer my view, for what it's worth. Not trying to be confrontational or anything but I do have a concrete suggestion. I'm guessing you do a lot of work with categories, and no doubt there are a lot of nonsense/inappropriate categories that need to be cleared out so props for doing that. However I think at least two of your nominations today (including the one I created, but even more so Category:Fish nervous system) were ill-advised. A better course might have been to leave a note for the creators of these categories, or to discuss them on the category discussion page. I was somewhat astonished to see the category I created nominated for deletion and found myself wishing you had simply dropped me a note about your concerns. Even more so with the Fish nervous system category, you admitted that you basically knew nothing about the topic but then nominated it anyway. Wouldn't a note to the person who created it, asking for clarification, have been a better route? When that person explained their reasoning and the fact that they work in neuroscience, you still seemed to question their argument, even though they claim expertise and you admit to not knowing the topic. That just seems quite strange to me, and frankly you waste several editors' time by nomming a cat for deletion that is perfectly legitimate—a fact which you could easily determine by talking to the person who created it.
I'm sure you do good work on this issue and I really don't meant to come at you with this little note, but in situations that are not clear-cut and where you're not sure of the scope/purpose of the category (and/or have little background in the topic at hand), it just seems advisable to communicate with the individual editor before listing a category for discussion. Not a huge deal or anything obviously, and you can take this advice or leave it, but I thought it was worth pointing out. -- Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 21:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I came here to make a friendly comment, and noticed the above. I'm unfamiliar with the category that the other editor started, but I came here to say thank you for withdrawing your nomination of the fish category, and to say that your nomination of that one, on the face of it, was entirely reasonable. Like Looie, I'm an expert in neuroscience, but when I saw the notice at the neuroscience wikiproject talk page, my first reaction was that this sounded like a ridiculous category name, and I was going to !vote delete. When I actually realized what the situation was, of course, I changed my mind. But the point is that I think what you did was entirely fair, including your willingness to withdraw when you saw the direction that consensus was going. Wikipedia isn't just for experts, and I thank you for your interest. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 17:52, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Your understanding of category hierarchies is far better than that of most people. So please would you look at the intersections of political sex scandals, sex scandal figures, Profumo affair, scandals in UK, scandals in England, etc. The list is huge. Many thanks and Happy New Year. Kittybrewster ☎ 11:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
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Hello- actually you might be right. I wasn't sure whether Ratzeburg had any other significant companies. Seems it doesn't;). Cheerio. Hoodinski ( talk) 11:24, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Block it. I don't know what led to that post, I don't care what led to that post, I just don't want posts like it. Get another admin to block it. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid ( coṁrá) 15:12, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you but I've asked at Wikipedia_talk:Categorization#Categories_in_article_text_or_infobox and Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Link with no reply. You seem to know quite a lot of about categories. I wonder if you could offer an opinion. Is there a MOS that applies to linking to categories in the article text or infobox such as Template:Nationfilmlist ? Gnevin ( talk) 16:03, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BrownHaired Girl. Several anonymous IP-addresses ( 125.166.172.253, 222.124.122.32, 125.163.21.201, 110.136.151.69 and 125.163.23.125 - there may be others) and a new user, Towsuw, have been creating havoc among peerage articles for the last few days. It's obviously the same person behind all edits. What he/she has done is wikilinking numerous peers that were previously unlinked. I don't know if this can be viewed as vandalism but it is certainly against WP:RED. It's especially annoying for me as I went through hundreds of peerage articles and de-linked those that I considered non-notable last years. He/She has also changed the format for heirs to peerage, using <br> in an odd way, see for instance this edit to the Baron Moran article. I hope you as an administrator can block the IP-addresses and Towsuw temporarily to stop him/her from creating further damage. The edits remind me of User:Max Mux who was blocked from editing definitely in June 2009 (and who had previously been blocked from the German Wikipedia). Hopefully you can help me out with this. Regards, Tryde ( talk) 09:38, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Some SPA action in evidence on Republic of Ireland postal addresses again... I wonder if we have an old banned acquaintance back? If so, where should this be reported? Would WP:RFCU be justified? Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 09:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I am looking for more help at the dermatology task force, particularly with our Bolognia push!? Perhaps you would you be able to help us? I could send you the login information for the Bolognia push if you are interested? --- kilbad ( talk) 01:36, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Ping. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:10, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Completely unrelated issue to the above—I'm sorry that I've felt it necessary to administratively close four CFDs you started on 2010 JAN 7. From what I could observe, at least two of them were tainted by canvassing beyond recovery. I also closed the other two, which were not as bad, but still had been inappropriately canvassed. I thought it best to treat them all the same, since they were all canvassed. In many ways, this is really the worst possible result for a CFD, since the canvassing can't be taken back and it's impossible to know what might have happened had the canvassing not taken place. The wrongdoer (canvasser) essentially gets what they want (nothing happens to the category), so unfortunately it appears to reward wrongdoing. But as I said in the closes, they can be re-nominated at any time, though you might want to wait a bit for passions to cool. It can also be upsetting for the user who canvassed to be told he did something wrong when he doesn't believe he did so or doesn't understand why it was inappropriate. I've also tried to explain things as best I could to the user. I hope you can understand why I did what I did. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
I have made considerable contributions to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Adams_%28dancer%29, and I found your name in the page history, hopefully correcting my errors. You appear to be a UK historian, rather than a ballet historian ... I am curious about the connection. If you have a moment, I am at holonar@ocii.com.
cheers, Gunnar Blodgett Edmonton, Canada —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.151.42.252 ( talk) 02:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
The South African Republic and the Republic of the Orange Free State were independent national governments in the pre-1900's. I know the current five subjects are all from the South African Republic. I was planning to expand it with the six subjects of the Orange Free State government. We could also add the twelve subjects identified from Liberia.
I have also logged this feedback on the "Category:19th-century national presidents in Africa" discussion page. Regards, JohanSteyn123 ( talk) 08:16, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for giving Maurice Petherick a Succession Box. I wonder if you could check out the Charles Gilpin (politician) article and see whether the Box for him is correct. Vernon White . . . Talk 00:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Vernon replies: Thanks for your work on this article. I am puzzled that Hansard's listing of Gilpin's contributions to Parliamentary debate ( Contributions of Charles Gilpin) are so few and exclude the speeches indicated in notes 3 and 4:
How can this be explained and can it be corrected?
All the best for 2010 Vernon White . . . Talk 23:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BHG, what do you make of this template - Template:Infobox datespan ? It was created by User:Jtdirl in June 2006. It is supposed to be a infobox style bio timeline but it is only used on 2 articles: Éamon de Valera and Charles Stewart Parnell. Is there some standard template equivalent? If not, I think it should be removed. Any thoughts? Snappy ( talk) 17:12, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Did Alansohn answer your question on his talk page? I butted in, but I'm not quite understanding what he means when he mentioned what he did as a violation of policy. Maybe I should just leave the question to you and him. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:34, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BHG, could you take a look at this article when you have some time to spare. For a number of reasons I have a few doubts about the notability of this person but I'd like an outside opinion before I take any action. Cheers - Galloglass 17:01, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I tried to close this discussion but got confused. There's consensus for the proposal, but I'm not sure what it is now. Is it a proposal to merge the contents of the nominated category to both of the other categories that aren't struck out? A double upmerge? And the struck out one was already doubly upmerged? This probably seems like a dumb question, but I know zilch about the subject. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:10, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Did you just accuse me in public of attempting to subvert the CFD process for personal gain? I followed your suggestion to get them out of Category:Games by designer. I did it because I thought you had suggested a good idea. There were already seven subcategories of Category:Games by designer that were all video games, so regardless of your opinion about the five you nominated, there was no reason I shouldn't have created Category:Video games by designer. Do you really think I did something warrants a charge of immorality? If so, you would be the first in four years of my contributing to CFD to do so.-- Mike Selinker ( talk) 15:09, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi there BrownHairedGirl, a debate is currently in progress on the EU talk page concerning the use of either ‘Republic of Ireland’ or ‘Ireland’ to identify the state. As the page is clearly political and involves both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, I am arguing for ‘Republic of Ireland’ for reasons of clarity and common sense. However, all my arguments are falling on intransigently deaf ears. Perhaps you would care to take a look? The Spoorne ( talk) 20:49, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Mant TV programs are broadcast at varying points in the schedule, and categorising TV programs in this way will lead to massive category clutter. -
So by your logic, a program (and I put great emphasis on this) called The Tonight Show, Late Night with..., The Late Show..., etc. could suitably air in other hours of the day (okay)!? That would be like saying that The Today Show/Early Show/Good Morning America also air in prime time. TMC1982 ( talk) 10:10 p.m., 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. I have expanded the Evans article. Hope it's OK. G -- Graham Lippiatt ( talk) 23:28, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Why did you add "-color" to Template:Party shading/Federalist? See {{ United States political party shading key 2}}.— Markles 12:57, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello, BrownHairedGirl/Archive. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Arenlor ( talk) 05:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Virginia's At-large congressional district#Order & consistency. — Markles 13:50, 24 January 2010 (UTC) (Using {{ Please see}})
Hi BrownHairedGirl
I just wanted to thank you for uploading the information on Rossnowlagh. It's great to have it to refer to and send a link to people when I want to explain where I grew up.
I wondered if you'd visited or how you came to be the person to originate the information?
IrishWonderboy 80.2.65.250 ( talk) 19:14, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Did you want a chance of rebuttal here or can I self-close this as withdrawn? Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:50, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
You are incorrect in your comments on the monarchism template. Kevin O'Higgins advocated the creation of a North-South dual monarchy to join both parts of Ireland, in 1926 and proposed the coronation of the king in the Phoenix Park as king of Ireland? The idea died with his death and is well documented in history books. Butt's extreme monarchism is also well documented. He wanted the Royal Family to have a residence in Ireland and for royal princes to be made Lord Lieutenant. FearÉIREANN\ (caint) 00:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
You're on a HotCat tear at the moment, which is AWESOME. Unfortunately, you caught WikiProject Essay C/C in the middle of a category migration, and you're moving essays into categories that we're deleting. Basically, any most categories had the word "Wikipedia" added, so that "Essays about Editing" became "Wikipedia Essays about Editing." I haven't had a chance to CSD the old cats yet. Because this is my fault, I'll do HotCat cleanup. If you could take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Essay Categorization and/or Classification/Categories, you'll see what categories we're using now. Thanks! ɳoɍɑfʈ Talk! 01:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Levineps is requesting to have his sanctions dropped. Thought you may appreciate the opportunity to enlighten those who may not be familiar with this case. Auntie E. ( talk) 03:16, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Levineps in violation of his editing restrictions. FYI. postdlf ( talk) 20:03, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:People associated with the 2010 Haiti earthquake. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 76.66.200.154 ( talk) 11:03, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
I have been trying to find some sort of tally or record of them getting deleted - have you ever been involved - and for any particular reason? I would be interested to know what you might say about that - I notice Oldfacttory has been off for a few days (John Carter for over a month now) - and was trying to think who might have had experience in the whatfors and whyfors of such an action - my rant is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Portal:Indonesia - which may be wrong in principle as well as grammar - but I was abit gobsmacked when I encountered a 27 edit genius making the proposal Satu Suro 10:36, 29 January 2010 (UTC) BTW thanks for the help in getting the libraries project pages together - it is very close to be in working order now ... Satu Suro 10:39, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments I understand - cheers Satu Suro 11:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
FYI. Cheers, Pdfpdf ( talk) 12:02, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi there. I don't know if you've had a chance to take a look, but I left a question for you at Talk:Walter Johnson. Thanks. - Eureka Lott 15:33, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
You are involved in "Peerage and Baronetage" so you likely know something about the people who became the Postmasters General of Ireland that I have started at User:Ww2censor/PMGI. Can you check that I am using the proper naming for the people in the listing and if you have any sources I can use I would appreciate knowing them. You might want to read the talk page for some oddities I found in the sources. Cheers ww2censor ( talk) 16:01, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
[[James Snodgrass, 1st Duke of Coolock|James Snodgrass, 42nd Baron Kimmage]]
I see that finally our massive argument has been decided as no consensus. This is an issue that needs to be resolved. Could we find a place, other than CfD, where, in a more open way, we could discuss all possible names for these categories. I am quite open to that. I may not reply this weekend however, as we have a weekend meeting of the Wikimedia Australia Committee. Cheers, -- Bduke (Discussion) 10:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Allow me to explain, since I seem to have raised people's hackles inadvertently. I did empty the category---removing the two bands listed there---several hours ago, while trying to sort out a number of redirects between the Neofolk, Apocalyptic folk, and Apocalyptic folk music articles. It seemed the appropriate thing to do since there was no subject article, the term has no agreed-upon definition, and some have even denied that it exists. Furthermore, since the two articles in the category were already defined as Neofolk, including them in that category, which covers the rather more vague territory of "Apocalyptic folk," seemed preferable. The reasons I gave in nominating the category for deletion are, I believe, still valid. Emptying the category may have been a mistake, but it is secondary to the substantive issues I raised. No willful deception was involved here. Honestly, this is more a matter of not dealing with categories very much, and of only (if memory serves correctly) having listed categories for deletion once before. Regards, --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 03:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
BrownHairedGirl,
You began proceedings in late December to delete a category I created: [8]
Unfortunately, despite the fact that I was the creator of this page and the only one to work on it, I was not consulted during the deletion proceedings. I would consider this bad practice and I request the page be re-created and another discussion take place as I was not able to offer my opinion. If not, I would simply like to re-create it myself. Please respond on my page.
Much appreciated. Plot Spoiler ( talk) 23:23, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BHG. I bring all my fun problems to you :) Would you consider semi-protecting this page as a persistent user (from both IP and new accounts) keeps changing one of the candidates and ignores all requests for any supporting reference, or even any evidence at all. As far as I can see from the evidence Morton is the correct candidate and have not been able to find anything to the contrary. Cheers - Galloglass 11:57, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Sincerely, Abie the Fish Peddler ( talk) 09:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi BHG. I bring all my fun problems to you :) Would you consider semi-protecting this page as a persistent user (from both IP and new accounts) keeps changing one of the candidates and ignores all requests for any supporting reference, or even any evidence at all. As far as I can see from the evidence Morton is the correct candidate and have not been able to find anything to the contrary. Cheers - Galloglass 11:57, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thanks for being helpfull with a witty parody, closing my nomination because i didn't put enough effort into it. i understand that contributing to wikipedia is supposed to be a chore, and that it is MY duty as a wikipedian to understnad the full letter of wikipedia policy, regardless of how utterly unclear and dispersed the information is presented in the wikipedia: articals.
it seems only obvious that wikipedia is a unpayed job, and anyone that gets frustrated over the amount of work wikipedia demands from it's users that create it's contend deserves to be made such a satire of. obviously such efforts need to be made in vain, rather then helping out if one does know the ropes, because what wikipedia needs above all is elitism of the lifeless that did manage to get through and understand all the policies and rules involved in such actions as nominating categories for deletion.
i thank you for being such a helpfull admin, always ready to use her whip on any such strugling wikipedian that's only trying to help out. wikipedia truly needs more people like you.· Lygophile has spoken 16:08, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Sisyph
If you think that a category is incorrectly named, please do not just create a new category and move all the articles to it. There is a process for renaming categories, at WP:CFD, whereby editors can discuss the proposed change and try to reach a consensus.
It appears that you emptied several categories relating to Summer olympics venues, and then blanked the category pages. I have opened a CFD discussion with the proposal that all changes should be reverted as an out-of-process move: see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 February 3#Summer_olympics_venues. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 14:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi BHG, came across this article and in al honesty there is nothing in it that is encyclopaedic, I was about to try and trim it but I was left with nothing accept the names of the band members and the list of their songs. Any advice, they are notable as they have charted highly in the Irish charts as far as I remember one of their albums was #1. BigDunc 17:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, BHG, you recently helped out at this article, where editors had been attempting to insert a hatnote without seeking consensus. Unfortunately, two editors - User:BigDunc and User:Domer48 have re-inserted the controversial hatnote - 1, 2. In order to avoid an edit war, and in keeping with the Arbcom Troubles ruling, I'm asking for your intervention again. Thanks. Mooretwin ( talk) 11:55, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
BHG, would you be willing to facilitate a central discussion on all the disputes surrounding various SF-related articles? There is a dispute between those who want Wikipedia to reflect the POV that the current party known as SF enjoys singular continuity with the original SF, and those who consider this to be in breach of NPOV. As a consequence, for example, we have the dispute over the hatnote, disputes over lists of leaders, disputes over foundation dates, and disputes over the inclusion of early SF history in articles about SF-related parties. Mooretwin ( talk) 09:02, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
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Lord Cunningham-Reid needs some more work (or he'll fight): see T:TDYK#Alec Cunningham-Reid. Ucucha 02:03, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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Now that you seem to be active again is there any chance you could follow up on this bot request? ww2censor ( talk) 15:49, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Now that you seem to be back, at least for a while, welcome back. I asked User:Anomie and User:AnomieBOT if he could tag all the Motorcycling WikiProject articles as stub-class which have the motorcycling stub {{ Motorcycle-stub}} in the articles for our recently formed assessment department. I estimate about 2,750+ articles use the stub. The talk pages that are already (mainly incompletely) tagged use the {{ Motorcycling}} project banner. There is also a redirect from {{ WikiProject Motorcycling}} which is been used in about 100 talk pages and should possibly be replaced or at least checked for during the process. However, despite posting replies to others my request have been ignored for more than a month by Anomie! Your bot did such work of the Ireland project, so I know you can do it, but do you have the time? TIA ww2censor ( talk) 15:02, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
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instead. When you have a set worklist, because I presume you will do as previously, I will ask someone else to review it as well as myself. Brilliant. TIA I'm offline after this until much later.
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Hi, I'm curious about why you removed the category Irish nationalist politicians from Joe Biggar. I'd thought that was exactly what he was. ?? regards, Rod Rcbutcher ( talk) 10:31, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey, sounds kinda cool, rather like The Bourne Ultimatium - "Coogan's back. And this time - its political". Anyway, thanks for that. I am going to add more info to each bio but I just wanted to get the dammed things up for once and for all. Hope all is well with you - what's Santa bringing ya? Fergananim ( talk) 21:03, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
My page on Thomas Tierney, and a number of other Mayors, has reverted to Mayor of Galway. I was just about to expand every relevent page. What do I do??? Fergananim ( talk) 21:45, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello ! I see you removed two Irish MPs from this categ (maybe more) on the grounds that it was a superfluous categ and that they were in the categ IPP MPs. However the categ. Irish Nat. politicians is a cumulmative categ not just for IPP MPs, but also for MPs of other Nationalist groupings, such as All-for-Ireland League MPs, Home Rule League MPs, Independent Nat. MPs and some Nationalists who were active politicians but not MPs, such as Andrew Kettle. I will therefore permit myself to restore Esmonde and Gwynn to the categ. again which I hope you will be in agreement with. Greetings Osioni ( talk) 17:47, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:MOS#Acronyms_and_abbreviations, abbreviations shoud be spelled out when first used, so I have expanded that one again.OK, I leave it with you if you wish to reverse all the categs again. However, I feel we need to create a categ for non-MP Nationalist politicians, such as a Categ: Irish Nationalist activists, as a sub-cat of Irish Nat politicians, Kettle and some others could belong there. Osioni ( talk) 20:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
I’ve taken time to give thought to the issues. Firstly I am sorry for having had you explain your moves in such detail, was really unnecessary. I accept your authority on categories. In some cases I thought I had overlooked pages when I made what appeared to be a reversal with a second edit (something I wouldn’t dare do without checking it out) not noticing that you were close on my heels and had reverted my original edit. Pity we couldn’t have sorted out the disparities in two minutes over a pot of tea.
I originally created the categ. Nat. politicians in good faith to accommodate a distinction between "real" nationalist politicians who on the one hand were active in land reform or the home rule movement, from those many general politicians (some not nationals) who on the other hand were not nationalist activists, returned short term, or simply through some internal IPP arrangement. I am opposed to calling all IPP MPs automatically 'Irish nationalist' politicians.
Now that the pages have been whittled down to 34, it is unlikely anyone takes on the task of re-instating the deleted pages. Therefore simply de-populate the rest. Two will remain, the non-MPs Andrew Kettle and James Daly (and others of a kind who may follow). I am against having them disappear into an uncategorized limbo. Either they stay or we create a category Ir. Nat. activists? The present categ. should definitely remain a parent category because readers would normally begin a search under the term ‘nationalist politicians’ rather than under one of its sub-categories.
Regarding the categ. Nationalist Movement, I accept it could cover other areas than the period we are talking about. My case for upholding the category rests on the fact that it categorizes a significant inter-related period of nationalist history covering land reform and the constitutional home rule movement, supported by its many pages. A suggestion would be to move the categ to Ir. Nat. Movement (1860-1918). Not intending to divert attention, but there are other "Movement" category/pages where focus is just on one singular aspect of, for example, republicanism, whereas categ. Nationalist Movement relates to a whole eventful period of Irish nationalism. Osioni ( talk) 09:59, 8 December 2009 (UTC), Osioni ( talk) 10:08, 8 December 2009 (UTC), Osioni ( talk)
Hi BrownHairedGirl. I've tried reverting the changes you made to the Mayors of Galway list but am unsuccessful. As I said before, I first created them, THEN added political and biographical details. Could you please revert your reverts? Cheers, Fergananim ( talk) 17:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
BHG, help. I have started an article on Thomas Mansel, 1st Baron Mansel, but both father and son were MPs for Cardiff and Glamorgan, but a Bussy Mansel was and MP well before Thomas. It's been wiki-linked as the same person, but he would have been an MP at the age of 110 if this was true, and I think born before his father. As one of our best connected political editors, could you try to solve this one. Thanks in advance, FruitMonkey ( talk) 21:04, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Materialscientist ( talk) 10:49, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
I have made a proposal to establish a WikiProject for British-Irish Collaboration. A number of proposals are currently being made around initiates to improve collaboration between British and Irish editors on topics of mutual interest. A number of initiates have been adapted in the past, with varying degrees of success, but all positive in their intent to resolve these issues. A centralised WikiProject for British-Irish collaboration could act as a focus for initiatives to improve collaboration on these topics.
As an editor that has recently taken part in discussions around initiates like these, please comment on the proposal to establish a WikiProject for this purpose. Please also circulate this notice to other editors you feel may be interested. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid ( coṁrá) 14:02, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm surprised an admin has signed next to this - which is a very sudden and un-formed idea. Don't you think it is fundamentally sectarian? I'm not happy on a number of levels, and these things need to be formulated before people actually sign them, don't they? People should be able to read what they are signing. I feel a bit uncomfortable with what you did to be honest - I expected the other sigs, but not yours. At very least it should be called 'Britain and Ireland' (not British-Irish) and should be utterly neutral space, without any punishment nonsense. Demanding 'collaboration' hasn't worked in the past either - it should be a British and Ireland Wikiproject really. It's funny, but I often find that Wikipedia always has the best routes in place. When people avoid those routes, and new ones are created, they seem to be fundamentally flawed. As it stands, I feel people are running from the British Isles taskforce anyway (the idea of a compromising guideline specifically), and this is partly made as a sideways step. You must know that nobody will ever fully win anything in these matters, and that common-sense guideline space, which new users can refer to (and admin can admin by) has to be the natural and encyclopedic way forward. We won't get to them by sticking to the same schizms, and failed ptocedures. Matt Lewis ( talk) 23:01, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Please reviev: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_December_16#Amended_suggestion. - Altenmann >t 18:55, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Reading a complaint in your user page: here is a merry Christmas to you from St. Mikkalai: User:BrownHairedGirl/contribs, per this. Rgds, - Altenmann >t 19:30, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi BHG. Would it be possible for you to take a look at the following discussion at the above page which appears to be the purest stitch up of any discussion I've ever seen on Wikipedia. It was opened just before 8pm last night and closed at just after midnight this morning. Of the contributors, only one is a regular contributor to political articles, some of the others I have never come across before. Bear in mind that this is within days of a previous debate coming to a wholly different view here [1] Of course this debate was open for a week, not four hours. Oh I was notified about the new discussion btw, at 23:48 all of 16 minutes before the discussion was closed. All this looks like a pre-arranged stitch up BHG and I hope you will consider looking into this as it leaves a very bad taste in the mouth. Thanks - Galloglass 17:50, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Jack White (musician) is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC [2] [3]. Please can you arrange to have the articles moved back to where they were, which only an admin can do now because of your subsequent editing. thanks, -- JD554 ( talk) 14:24, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
The question is perhaps whether we are writing an encyclopedia aimed at early-21st-century under-30 Americans, or a general encyclopedia. I favour the latter, so agree with BHG that a currently famous singer is not the Primary Usage. The Trade Unionist (though not described as such) is the only one listed in Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. PamD ( talk) 18:39, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
As mentioned in the original nomination, there are two discussions about this matter, on the WP:RU project talk page. Consensus has been reached, with the one you refer to (in your objection) being the second "courtesy-notification" after the consensus was already reached in the first link here. This idea comes from the wikiproject itself, so concern for our inclusion is appreciated, but not necessary, thanks. Would you consider removing your objection so this mammoth task can get under way? Thank you in advance. - Sahmejil ( talk) 14:26, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
To understand the slippages and overlaps and domains and donts and dos of united kingdom projects? I was on mull a few months ago and have a few books i want to check things against - and noticed you had identified 2 projects - scottish islands and scotland - has any one done a map or explanation of what project fits where? I also cat tag a lot and such a guide would be very helpful not to raise ire of those who watch cat tags Satu Suro 08:45, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks - yes it is some help - (but shucks I thought some smart brit would realise their whole project confusion for UK and the subsidiary ones - there are parts that are confusing I can tell you -- guides or no guides) needed an explanation somewhere :) Satu Suro 11:29, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
OK I suppose that Wikipedia:UK_Wikipedians'_notice_board and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory/Geographical/Europe#United_Kingdom - juxtaposed is probably what I am after - sorry to be a nuisance Satu Suro 11:39, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi BHG, regarding the change in WP:Politician (which I only recently became aware of), about first level sub-national political office, or in Ireland's case local city and county councillors. I see you are engaged in AfD for Billy Cameron but the main effect of this change is to allow anyone to create an article for an elected councillor (1627 of them in the RoI), and link a mention in a local newspaper and a passing mention (probably of local election results) in a national newspaper and say that the person meets notability guidelines. This is NOT a positive development, imho. Any suggestions about what can be done regarding this issue? Snappy ( talk) 01:14, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing out my typo. Whilst I did not intend to "break" anything, it is good to know that some people like yourself like to point it out to the person, rather than just fix it and move on. Thanks again ! Neonblak talk - 01:31, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 December 14#Category:International Christian Leadership. The category is similar to Category:Members of the Family also known as the Fellowship which you recently commented on. -- Kevinkor2 ( talk) 09:37, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I remain concerned with regard to linking the post-treaty United Kingdom page to pre-treaty nationalist articles. This happens when using the single link United Kingdom House of Commons. That page states “The House of Commons is the lower house of the Parliament of the United Kingdom”. The latter link opens: “The Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland etc . is ..“ which is the post-treaty UK and misleading in pre-treaty pages. The use of two separate links (either short or long form) is however clear and reflects the historical situation at the time, i.e. the United Kingdom House of Commons. The first pre-treaty "United Kingdom of GB and Ireland" link, qualifies the second link. That a double link is untidy when a single link can do the job is something I can’t follow in this case. The "United Kingdom House of Commons" remains optically the same. I’m assuming that for the sake of historical clarity on relevant nationalist pages, split links will continue to be used and that it’s ok should I occasionally change a single link into a double link. It is similar to where the First, Second or Third Dáils are sometimes linked to the present Dáil Éireann. Greetings, Osioni ( talk) 21:04, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I had hoped to avoid a further exchange. The informative explanations are welcome (apart from the unjustly harsh comments). On the other hand I have obviously failed to communicate the absurdity of a situation, whereby pre-1923 events are depicted as taking place in a post-1923 period-setting, with the south of Ireland already separated from the UK. The need to sever the union was a driving force prior to 1923 and certainly requires the correct backdrop of the legislature "UK of GB and Ireland", and not that of a conflicting post-"UK of GB and Northern Ireland".
As previously mentioned, this occurs when the text implies that the current "re-named" UK successor state is one and the same as its original 1801 predecessor, which it is not. It happens (as I already said) when either the single United Kingdom or the House of Commons of the United Kingdom link are used without a qualifying link. It is unproblematic as well as imperative to include the historically correct pre-1923 legislature using the link to the United Kingdom House of Commons, the so-called split link.
The view that this creates a "boiler point text", "mangled syntax" or "impediment to navigation" and "text flow" is not possible to follow and is an over-kill on faulting. That naming the proper period-setting by its full name triggers something "horrendous" is in itself "horrendous". (An acceptable term such as "over-inflated" would suffice fully in some few, but not all cases). This is certainly not to deny that brush-ups may always be necessary and of advantage here and there, historical content having precedence.
I was first made aware of the need to adopt the correct period-setting some years back when pages I had worked on were all re-edited, much to my surprise, to include the correct full legislative period in the lead, (now called “horrendous”) which I had initially overlooked, or had inadvertently used the incorrect post- UK link. I immediately got the message, and since then adhered to it. Now all at once this is faulted. I respect different concepts as such, but feel they are being pursued in a rather over-exacerbated manner. To clinically deplete the lead of the title of the formal state existing at the time is difficult to comprehend. Taking the risk of looking at it on an analytical level, to remove or 'bury' the pre-1923 legislature resonates a little like hiding those parts of history people prefer not to be confronted with.
A further example of where the successor-UK link appears to be incorrectly used, taken randomly from a leading main article:
"In 1921 the
United Kingdom government established a legislature called the
Parliament of Southern Ireland in an effort to appease nationalists by granting Ireland limited
home rule".
The "UK of GB and Northern Ireland government" certainly did not establish such a legislature in 1921. (A needed sub-linked edit would likely to be seen as untidy or pedantic?).
Pity those trying to unravel our history.
Regarding for the Dáils,I may have expressed myself unclearly, but am well aware that since 1919 there have been 30 Dáils which has nothing to do with the point raised. Many articles make reference to one or other of the first Dáils concerning an event, statement or somebody elected to them. The Second Dáil for example has its own page with its own specific historic background. It is baffling that it is now found to be perfectly correct when that particular Dáil’s page is de-existed through an obviously deceptive link to: the Second Dáil Éireann, which is sub-linked to the current Dáil Éireann assembly. The only thing they have in common is the word Dáil.
Yes, some of us know Irish MPs only had Westminster to go to, but the encyclopaedia is not just for us now, but for generations to come when this fact and its legislature will no longer be known. The reason they require to be mentioned individually. The MPs are not part of a single article with a single lead.
With that I hope I may have clarified myself to some extent. Osioni ( talk) 23:27, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but I have enough of this. You have been kind enough to write me a long reply, but you appear not have read most of what I wrote above, and I think I am wasting my time. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 23:49, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
I just happened to see what you did at Category:New School for Social Research faculty. Was this discussed at WP:CFD or anywhere else? Debresser ( talk) 22:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
The Picture of the Day for today is muddled with its tenses: Its curved beak is adapted to taking nectar from flowers, but they will also eat fruit and insects. Could you make them both plural or both singular? From WP:ERRORS. Shubinator ( talk) 01:58, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
To keep discussion in one place, replies moved to User talk:Djln#Category_deletions, where the discussion started. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 15:59, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Hello: I noticed that this discussion was closed and that Cydebot has begun moving the articles to Category:United States emission standards Tier 2 compliant locomotives; however, the consensus of the discussion was that the new category should be named Category:EPA Tier 2-compliant locomotives of the United States. Do you happen to know why the bot is moving the articles to the wrong category? I would ask the bot directly, but they're usually not very responsive. ;-) Thanks and Happy Holidays! – BMRR ( talk) 17:50, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Uhm, why did you move that page of the rugby player to William Ryder (rugby union player)?. The other guy is known as William T. Ryder so no need to disambiguate that and just leave the "other names' tag on the rugby players page and + that person died 17 years ago and when people search, they would be looking for the rugby player, not him... Please next time you decide to make changes to "rugby related articles", ask the people at Wikipedia Project:Rugby union first...-- Warpath ( talk) 22:10, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
FYI Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#User:Brown_Hair_Girl_is_stalking_me Gerardw ( talk) 22:18, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
If you've a moment, can you take a look at this and tell me how I managed to bugger it up so completely? I have made dozens of AfD nominations, and I haven't any idea what I did wrong this time. All I know is this is not what it should look like. I thank you for your time and efforts, as always. --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 04:30, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Brownhairedgirl, Holiday greetings, etc. Thanks for adding the category "Royal Navy schooners" to the category page. I have wondered how one created sub-categories and now I know. I added the Ballahoo class schooner category page too. You may have noticed that I have added five (of 18) schooners to the Ballahoo class. Regards, Acad Ronin ( talk) 03:51, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
[4]. I forgot; thx. Good Ol’factory (talk) 12:43, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi
Is the category Romance (genre) is out of scope being a category ?, I think it could at-least have members as those works listed in the Romance (genre) article page. The novel Marthandavarma is tagged as historical romance - is it not right to (for the novel) come under Romance (genre)- just a humble doubt(
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Hi,
What I meant is – whether there won’t be a category Romance (genre) in Wikipedia hereafter or from now .. ??, its just that the Category inclusion was removed from the Marthandavarma (novel) article, where the same was added by me. Okay .. if there going be a category Romance (genre), I’d suggest it to be added to the above mentioned article otherwise .. never mind, Thanks
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Please take a look also at this talk page post. The problem isn't just bad categories; there is objective error in what he does as well. The response I got was...less than constructive. postdlf ( talk) 14:34, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you for making efforts to intervene with Levineps. I was concerned about two months ago about some of his edits, and since that time I've tried to work with him a number of times on my own initiative, and I've also been approached by a number of other editors on my talk page and via email who have been as troubled as I was. He bounces around from topic to topic, so it seems that some editors get very concerned, and then when he moves on to other areas, the concerns of these editors die off, but overall I think his pattern of edits is very concerning. I have not known where to take things since my last comments on his talk page—I was kind of waiting for someone else involved in CFD to notice that we have a pattern developing here. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:34, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid you're incorrect: I added nothing. I shall re-edit, but without removing the fact tags, since what I removed was opinion and irrelevant anyway. SE7 Talk/ Contribs 04:06, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh and I don't "sneakily" edit things. I imagine one would have to live a very sad life indeed to go around editing things merely to suit their purposes rather than suit the truth of the matter, but thanks for the lecture anyway SE7 Talk/ Contribs 04:10, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
All you are doing is reverting my edits for the sake of reverting them. All your doing is hitting the undo button. If my edits are wrong thats one thing, but what you are doing is really disgusting. Levineps ( talk) 06:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
It seems to me you would make a good lawyer(if your not already). You always find an argument for everything, which can be a good thing. But I think unless it's a legitimate reason and you have shown a few, what your doing should be done less frequently.-- Levineps ( talk) 15:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
You probably know this already, but this won't work. It will only upmerge it to the first one listed. We have to put the double upmerges at WP:CFDWM for manual merges. They get done eventually, but it's slow. I wish there was a faster way. Not to worry about the one in question as I tracked down the four articles and added the second category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:00, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Is it appropriate for me to implement the community ban per the ANI talk page since I initially proposed it, or do I wait for an outside admin to do that? Am I expected to take the lead on this or would it be inappropriate for me to do so? I think there's a clear consensus for a category-edits ban and the additional points you've made. I've never done something like this before so I don't know. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Too many cooks... Please see the current state of the AN/I post, and this post. We need to undo that and implement them as I have written them, which is actually what was agreed to. User:Coffee's summary is neither an accurate restatement of the AN/I consensus, nor clear in its terms. postdlf ( talk) 15:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering about joining your userpage category, as I meet some of the qualifications. However I am not "Cariverous" and wondered if this was a typo. If it is a fey, Celtic quality of some kind I apologise for my ignorance. Ben Mac Dui 14:32, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
BrownHairedGirl, I thank you for and appreciate your message to me concerning my creations of categories for the "House of Esterházy" and "House of Kinsky." As a lowly editor, I get caught up in the weeds when ensuring all persons are granted the proper categories for their articles. In the early days of Wikipedia, new editors created categories for families by naming the category just the family name without "House of..." or ".... family" and in my haste to correct these errors, I neglected to check Wikipedia policy. (And let's face it, Wikipedia policy is Byzantine in nature and not many editors [I've been one since 2005] are aware of all the policies they must strive to work within). This is why I'm thankful that administrators such as yourself are able to remind editors of these rules. Thanks for all you do for Wikipedia. -- Caponer ( talk) 19:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
That category doesn not correspond, because Oliventian Portuguese is a subdialect of Alentejan Portuguese, delete it. Read that article in Spanish Wikipedia. I believe that I confunded Oliventian with Alejentan, but I shall fix it. -- Der Künstler ( talk) 20:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
If you're still on your MP-expanding trawls, can you do the wonderfully-named John Samuel Wanley Sawbridge Erle-Drax at some point? (See his talk page for a summary of the current issues). – iride scent 20:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi BHG, sorry I slipped, well caught. [5] Happy New Year! - Fayenatic (talk) 21:41, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Offliner -- for what it's worth, I'd say that it appears that there is no good basis for those 3 articles to be in the category and that they should have been removed. Dougweller ( talk) 11:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I am sorry we dragged you into this, that was never my intention. I should have included the articles to my original note - I think I even planned to do this - but simply forgot, probably due being a bit under the weather from a slight fever. -- Sander Säde 13:29, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Reading this nomination of yours, I wanted to make sure you were aware of Category:Games by designer, where games are already categorized by their designers.-- Mike Selinker ( talk) 05:11, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BrownHairedGirl. Because you participated in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Juan Manuel Rodriguez (writer), you may be interested in the rename discussion at Talk:Juan Manuel Rodriguez (writer)#Requested move. Thanks, Cunard ( talk) 18:20, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I do hear your argument about primary topic being a problem with dab repair. I do sometimes forget. But I think 60% is near the line (how much over 50% should it be?). During the last run visit with this "fun" topic ( Talk:James Stewart), I started a summary essay on the issues involved ( User:Jwy/Primary_Topics: Why and Which). It is an attempt to discuss neutrally the issues involved in choosing a primary target (or indeed, if there should be one). I want someone to be able to read it to be more informed, not necessary to prescribe what they should do. I have just looked at it again and see room for improvement (page loading in addition to clicks, for example). If you have suggestions for the essay, please jump in - either comment on the talk or directly in the article. (John User:Jwy talk) 22:47, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your contribution and doing the gruntwork in suggesting the renaming of all those categories. Was also nice to see that was actually WP:snow-ing! A big thanks from WP:RU. Sahmejil ( talk) 22:47, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I've sent User:Cyde an email about his slow-working bot. He told me awhile ago that he rarely checks his WP talk page now so if it slows down give him a shout on his email. I'll email you his address for future referece. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I suppose I am trying to be a bit cheeky at the Tassie and West Oz locomotives cats - really its a nobrainer - I think Vegaswikian saw that when I started polluting (maybe it was explaining) the entries - I await the far more interesting and challenging closed railways and railway stations, and disused railways and railway stations - to defunct railways and railway station CFD discussion (when it gets put up) - I am sure that will be more than my talking to myself - cheers Satu Suro 14:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi there, I didn't see the place I should comment about this category, but a list instead is fine with me.I'm Nonpartisan 02:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by I'm nonpartisan ( talk • contribs)
I think I just pulled the "Kyffin-" from the info in William Kyffin-Taylor, 1st Baron Maenan, but now that I look back, I suspect that's wrong. I can't now find any evidence that Austin (unlike his brothers) ever used the "Kyffin-". Choess ( talk) 07:02, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BrownHairedGirl, I was a bit bothered by a couple of your CFD noms and decided I should post a note here and offer my view, for what it's worth. Not trying to be confrontational or anything but I do have a concrete suggestion. I'm guessing you do a lot of work with categories, and no doubt there are a lot of nonsense/inappropriate categories that need to be cleared out so props for doing that. However I think at least two of your nominations today (including the one I created, but even more so Category:Fish nervous system) were ill-advised. A better course might have been to leave a note for the creators of these categories, or to discuss them on the category discussion page. I was somewhat astonished to see the category I created nominated for deletion and found myself wishing you had simply dropped me a note about your concerns. Even more so with the Fish nervous system category, you admitted that you basically knew nothing about the topic but then nominated it anyway. Wouldn't a note to the person who created it, asking for clarification, have been a better route? When that person explained their reasoning and the fact that they work in neuroscience, you still seemed to question their argument, even though they claim expertise and you admit to not knowing the topic. That just seems quite strange to me, and frankly you waste several editors' time by nomming a cat for deletion that is perfectly legitimate—a fact which you could easily determine by talking to the person who created it.
I'm sure you do good work on this issue and I really don't meant to come at you with this little note, but in situations that are not clear-cut and where you're not sure of the scope/purpose of the category (and/or have little background in the topic at hand), it just seems advisable to communicate with the individual editor before listing a category for discussion. Not a huge deal or anything obviously, and you can take this advice or leave it, but I thought it was worth pointing out. -- Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 21:35, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I came here to make a friendly comment, and noticed the above. I'm unfamiliar with the category that the other editor started, but I came here to say thank you for withdrawing your nomination of the fish category, and to say that your nomination of that one, on the face of it, was entirely reasonable. Like Looie, I'm an expert in neuroscience, but when I saw the notice at the neuroscience wikiproject talk page, my first reaction was that this sounded like a ridiculous category name, and I was going to !vote delete. When I actually realized what the situation was, of course, I changed my mind. But the point is that I think what you did was entirely fair, including your willingness to withdraw when you saw the direction that consensus was going. Wikipedia isn't just for experts, and I thank you for your interest. -- Tryptofish ( talk) 17:52, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Your understanding of category hierarchies is far better than that of most people. So please would you look at the intersections of political sex scandals, sex scandal figures, Profumo affair, scandals in UK, scandals in England, etc. The list is huge. Many thanks and Happy New Year. Kittybrewster ☎ 11:35, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
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Hello- actually you might be right. I wasn't sure whether Ratzeburg had any other significant companies. Seems it doesn't;). Cheerio. Hoodinski ( talk) 11:24, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Block it. I don't know what led to that post, I don't care what led to that post, I just don't want posts like it. Get another admin to block it. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid ( coṁrá) 15:12, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you but I've asked at Wikipedia_talk:Categorization#Categories_in_article_text_or_infobox and Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Link with no reply. You seem to know quite a lot of about categories. I wonder if you could offer an opinion. Is there a MOS that applies to linking to categories in the article text or infobox such as Template:Nationfilmlist ? Gnevin ( talk) 16:03, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BrownHaired Girl. Several anonymous IP-addresses ( 125.166.172.253, 222.124.122.32, 125.163.21.201, 110.136.151.69 and 125.163.23.125 - there may be others) and a new user, Towsuw, have been creating havoc among peerage articles for the last few days. It's obviously the same person behind all edits. What he/she has done is wikilinking numerous peers that were previously unlinked. I don't know if this can be viewed as vandalism but it is certainly against WP:RED. It's especially annoying for me as I went through hundreds of peerage articles and de-linked those that I considered non-notable last years. He/She has also changed the format for heirs to peerage, using <br> in an odd way, see for instance this edit to the Baron Moran article. I hope you as an administrator can block the IP-addresses and Towsuw temporarily to stop him/her from creating further damage. The edits remind me of User:Max Mux who was blocked from editing definitely in June 2009 (and who had previously been blocked from the German Wikipedia). Hopefully you can help me out with this. Regards, Tryde ( talk) 09:38, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Some SPA action in evidence on Republic of Ireland postal addresses again... I wonder if we have an old banned acquaintance back? If so, where should this be reported? Would WP:RFCU be justified? Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 09:57, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I am looking for more help at the dermatology task force, particularly with our Bolognia push!? Perhaps you would you be able to help us? I could send you the login information for the Bolognia push if you are interested? --- kilbad ( talk) 01:36, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Ping. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:10, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Completely unrelated issue to the above—I'm sorry that I've felt it necessary to administratively close four CFDs you started on 2010 JAN 7. From what I could observe, at least two of them were tainted by canvassing beyond recovery. I also closed the other two, which were not as bad, but still had been inappropriately canvassed. I thought it best to treat them all the same, since they were all canvassed. In many ways, this is really the worst possible result for a CFD, since the canvassing can't be taken back and it's impossible to know what might have happened had the canvassing not taken place. The wrongdoer (canvasser) essentially gets what they want (nothing happens to the category), so unfortunately it appears to reward wrongdoing. But as I said in the closes, they can be re-nominated at any time, though you might want to wait a bit for passions to cool. It can also be upsetting for the user who canvassed to be told he did something wrong when he doesn't believe he did so or doesn't understand why it was inappropriate. I've also tried to explain things as best I could to the user. I hope you can understand why I did what I did. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:25, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
I have made considerable contributions to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Adams_%28dancer%29, and I found your name in the page history, hopefully correcting my errors. You appear to be a UK historian, rather than a ballet historian ... I am curious about the connection. If you have a moment, I am at holonar@ocii.com.
cheers, Gunnar Blodgett Edmonton, Canada —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.151.42.252 ( talk) 02:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
The South African Republic and the Republic of the Orange Free State were independent national governments in the pre-1900's. I know the current five subjects are all from the South African Republic. I was planning to expand it with the six subjects of the Orange Free State government. We could also add the twelve subjects identified from Liberia.
I have also logged this feedback on the "Category:19th-century national presidents in Africa" discussion page. Regards, JohanSteyn123 ( talk) 08:16, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for giving Maurice Petherick a Succession Box. I wonder if you could check out the Charles Gilpin (politician) article and see whether the Box for him is correct. Vernon White . . . Talk 00:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Vernon replies: Thanks for your work on this article. I am puzzled that Hansard's listing of Gilpin's contributions to Parliamentary debate ( Contributions of Charles Gilpin) are so few and exclude the speeches indicated in notes 3 and 4:
How can this be explained and can it be corrected?
All the best for 2010 Vernon White . . . Talk 23:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BHG, what do you make of this template - Template:Infobox datespan ? It was created by User:Jtdirl in June 2006. It is supposed to be a infobox style bio timeline but it is only used on 2 articles: Éamon de Valera and Charles Stewart Parnell. Is there some standard template equivalent? If not, I think it should be removed. Any thoughts? Snappy ( talk) 17:12, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Did Alansohn answer your question on his talk page? I butted in, but I'm not quite understanding what he means when he mentioned what he did as a violation of policy. Maybe I should just leave the question to you and him. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:34, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BHG, could you take a look at this article when you have some time to spare. For a number of reasons I have a few doubts about the notability of this person but I'd like an outside opinion before I take any action. Cheers - Galloglass 17:01, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
I tried to close this discussion but got confused. There's consensus for the proposal, but I'm not sure what it is now. Is it a proposal to merge the contents of the nominated category to both of the other categories that aren't struck out? A double upmerge? And the struck out one was already doubly upmerged? This probably seems like a dumb question, but I know zilch about the subject. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:10, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Did you just accuse me in public of attempting to subvert the CFD process for personal gain? I followed your suggestion to get them out of Category:Games by designer. I did it because I thought you had suggested a good idea. There were already seven subcategories of Category:Games by designer that were all video games, so regardless of your opinion about the five you nominated, there was no reason I shouldn't have created Category:Video games by designer. Do you really think I did something warrants a charge of immorality? If so, you would be the first in four years of my contributing to CFD to do so.-- Mike Selinker ( talk) 15:09, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi there BrownHairedGirl, a debate is currently in progress on the EU talk page concerning the use of either ‘Republic of Ireland’ or ‘Ireland’ to identify the state. As the page is clearly political and involves both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, I am arguing for ‘Republic of Ireland’ for reasons of clarity and common sense. However, all my arguments are falling on intransigently deaf ears. Perhaps you would care to take a look? The Spoorne ( talk) 20:49, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Mant TV programs are broadcast at varying points in the schedule, and categorising TV programs in this way will lead to massive category clutter. -
So by your logic, a program (and I put great emphasis on this) called The Tonight Show, Late Night with..., The Late Show..., etc. could suitably air in other hours of the day (okay)!? That would be like saying that The Today Show/Early Show/Good Morning America also air in prime time. TMC1982 ( talk) 10:10 p.m., 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. I have expanded the Evans article. Hope it's OK. G -- Graham Lippiatt ( talk) 23:28, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Why did you add "-color" to Template:Party shading/Federalist? See {{ United States political party shading key 2}}.— Markles 12:57, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello, BrownHairedGirl/Archive. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Arenlor ( talk) 05:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Virginia's At-large congressional district#Order & consistency. — Markles 13:50, 24 January 2010 (UTC) (Using {{ Please see}})
Hi BrownHairedGirl
I just wanted to thank you for uploading the information on Rossnowlagh. It's great to have it to refer to and send a link to people when I want to explain where I grew up.
I wondered if you'd visited or how you came to be the person to originate the information?
IrishWonderboy 80.2.65.250 ( talk) 19:14, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Did you want a chance of rebuttal here or can I self-close this as withdrawn? Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:50, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
You are incorrect in your comments on the monarchism template. Kevin O'Higgins advocated the creation of a North-South dual monarchy to join both parts of Ireland, in 1926 and proposed the coronation of the king in the Phoenix Park as king of Ireland? The idea died with his death and is well documented in history books. Butt's extreme monarchism is also well documented. He wanted the Royal Family to have a residence in Ireland and for royal princes to be made Lord Lieutenant. FearÉIREANN\ (caint) 00:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
You're on a HotCat tear at the moment, which is AWESOME. Unfortunately, you caught WikiProject Essay C/C in the middle of a category migration, and you're moving essays into categories that we're deleting. Basically, any most categories had the word "Wikipedia" added, so that "Essays about Editing" became "Wikipedia Essays about Editing." I haven't had a chance to CSD the old cats yet. Because this is my fault, I'll do HotCat cleanup. If you could take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Essay Categorization and/or Classification/Categories, you'll see what categories we're using now. Thanks! ɳoɍɑfʈ Talk! 01:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Levineps is requesting to have his sanctions dropped. Thought you may appreciate the opportunity to enlighten those who may not be familiar with this case. Auntie E. ( talk) 03:16, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Levineps in violation of his editing restrictions. FYI. postdlf ( talk) 20:03, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:People associated with the 2010 Haiti earthquake. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. 76.66.200.154 ( talk) 11:03, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
I have been trying to find some sort of tally or record of them getting deleted - have you ever been involved - and for any particular reason? I would be interested to know what you might say about that - I notice Oldfacttory has been off for a few days (John Carter for over a month now) - and was trying to think who might have had experience in the whatfors and whyfors of such an action - my rant is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Portal:Indonesia - which may be wrong in principle as well as grammar - but I was abit gobsmacked when I encountered a 27 edit genius making the proposal Satu Suro 10:36, 29 January 2010 (UTC) BTW thanks for the help in getting the libraries project pages together - it is very close to be in working order now ... Satu Suro 10:39, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments I understand - cheers Satu Suro 11:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
FYI. Cheers, Pdfpdf ( talk) 12:02, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi there. I don't know if you've had a chance to take a look, but I left a question for you at Talk:Walter Johnson. Thanks. - Eureka Lott 15:33, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
You are involved in "Peerage and Baronetage" so you likely know something about the people who became the Postmasters General of Ireland that I have started at User:Ww2censor/PMGI. Can you check that I am using the proper naming for the people in the listing and if you have any sources I can use I would appreciate knowing them. You might want to read the talk page for some oddities I found in the sources. Cheers ww2censor ( talk) 16:01, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
[[James Snodgrass, 1st Duke of Coolock|James Snodgrass, 42nd Baron Kimmage]]
I see that finally our massive argument has been decided as no consensus. This is an issue that needs to be resolved. Could we find a place, other than CfD, where, in a more open way, we could discuss all possible names for these categories. I am quite open to that. I may not reply this weekend however, as we have a weekend meeting of the Wikimedia Australia Committee. Cheers, -- Bduke (Discussion) 10:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Allow me to explain, since I seem to have raised people's hackles inadvertently. I did empty the category---removing the two bands listed there---several hours ago, while trying to sort out a number of redirects between the Neofolk, Apocalyptic folk, and Apocalyptic folk music articles. It seemed the appropriate thing to do since there was no subject article, the term has no agreed-upon definition, and some have even denied that it exists. Furthermore, since the two articles in the category were already defined as Neofolk, including them in that category, which covers the rather more vague territory of "Apocalyptic folk," seemed preferable. The reasons I gave in nominating the category for deletion are, I believe, still valid. Emptying the category may have been a mistake, but it is secondary to the substantive issues I raised. No willful deception was involved here. Honestly, this is more a matter of not dealing with categories very much, and of only (if memory serves correctly) having listed categories for deletion once before. Regards, --- RepublicanJacobite The'FortyFive' 03:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
BrownHairedGirl,
You began proceedings in late December to delete a category I created: [8]
Unfortunately, despite the fact that I was the creator of this page and the only one to work on it, I was not consulted during the deletion proceedings. I would consider this bad practice and I request the page be re-created and another discussion take place as I was not able to offer my opinion. If not, I would simply like to re-create it myself. Please respond on my page.
Much appreciated. Plot Spoiler ( talk) 23:23, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi BHG. I bring all my fun problems to you :) Would you consider semi-protecting this page as a persistent user (from both IP and new accounts) keeps changing one of the candidates and ignores all requests for any supporting reference, or even any evidence at all. As far as I can see from the evidence Morton is the correct candidate and have not been able to find anything to the contrary. Cheers - Galloglass 11:57, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Sincerely, Abie the Fish Peddler ( talk) 09:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi BHG. I bring all my fun problems to you :) Would you consider semi-protecting this page as a persistent user (from both IP and new accounts) keeps changing one of the candidates and ignores all requests for any supporting reference, or even any evidence at all. As far as I can see from the evidence Morton is the correct candidate and have not been able to find anything to the contrary. Cheers - Galloglass 11:57, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thanks for being helpfull with a witty parody, closing my nomination because i didn't put enough effort into it. i understand that contributing to wikipedia is supposed to be a chore, and that it is MY duty as a wikipedian to understnad the full letter of wikipedia policy, regardless of how utterly unclear and dispersed the information is presented in the wikipedia: articals.
it seems only obvious that wikipedia is a unpayed job, and anyone that gets frustrated over the amount of work wikipedia demands from it's users that create it's contend deserves to be made such a satire of. obviously such efforts need to be made in vain, rather then helping out if one does know the ropes, because what wikipedia needs above all is elitism of the lifeless that did manage to get through and understand all the policies and rules involved in such actions as nominating categories for deletion.
i thank you for being such a helpfull admin, always ready to use her whip on any such strugling wikipedian that's only trying to help out. wikipedia truly needs more people like you.· Lygophile has spoken 16:08, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Sisyph
If you think that a category is incorrectly named, please do not just create a new category and move all the articles to it. There is a process for renaming categories, at WP:CFD, whereby editors can discuss the proposed change and try to reach a consensus.
It appears that you emptied several categories relating to Summer olympics venues, and then blanked the category pages. I have opened a CFD discussion with the proposal that all changes should be reverted as an out-of-process move: see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 February 3#Summer_olympics_venues. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 14:52, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi BHG, came across this article and in al honesty there is nothing in it that is encyclopaedic, I was about to try and trim it but I was left with nothing accept the names of the band members and the list of their songs. Any advice, they are notable as they have charted highly in the Irish charts as far as I remember one of their albums was #1. BigDunc 17:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, BHG, you recently helped out at this article, where editors had been attempting to insert a hatnote without seeking consensus. Unfortunately, two editors - User:BigDunc and User:Domer48 have re-inserted the controversial hatnote - 1, 2. In order to avoid an edit war, and in keeping with the Arbcom Troubles ruling, I'm asking for your intervention again. Thanks. Mooretwin ( talk) 11:55, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
BHG, would you be willing to facilitate a central discussion on all the disputes surrounding various SF-related articles? There is a dispute between those who want Wikipedia to reflect the POV that the current party known as SF enjoys singular continuity with the original SF, and those who consider this to be in breach of NPOV. As a consequence, for example, we have the dispute over the hatnote, disputes over lists of leaders, disputes over foundation dates, and disputes over the inclusion of early SF history in articles about SF-related parties. Mooretwin ( talk) 09:02, 9 February 2010 (UTC)